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| I don't buy it. There must have been a better way... Using people as pages of a book is just way too unreliable. Add that to the list of reasons why I hate Badeni... The first half was decent, but I think it would have been better if we were led to believe that Jolenta had died. The scene of Nowak crying (as well as their backstory) would be a lot more powerful that way. Learning how she survived can wait for when she inevitably returns. It would be bad writing if she doesn't return! This is Chekhov's Jolenta (/gun)! There is no reason for her to survive if she doesn't come back later. Knowing that Jolenta is alive also makes Grabowski less important, 'cause he's not the only one who can pass the torch. At first I thought SHE would be the next main character. (I would at least be more hyped if that was the case!) Overall, the events are not bad, but the execution could have been a lot better. (This goes for the chapter of Oczy & Badeni as a whole imo...) |
gorkthe134thJan 5, 12:46 AM
| Now Nowak really really deserves what happens to him here, it's almost too lenient but still. And for that Antoni gets the credit. |
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Reply to SoulReaper85
@ropiel she didn't die weren't you paying attention
| @SoulReaper85 ok what happened then? Why didn't she appear in this episode also. |
| Deep dark fantasies |
Reply to ropiel
@SoulReaper85 ok what happened then? Why didn't she appear in this episode also.
| @ropiel She didn't appear in this episode because she was escaping away and it also didn't have any part for her to appear. She survived because one of the priests helped her escape. Then Antony told Nowak that his daughter was dead because he wanted to destroy Nowak and also wanted to ruin Nowak's reputation. So, he killed and burned the priest who let Jolenta escape and pretended that this burning corpse was Jolenta's. |
何それ？意味分かんない  |
| Good episode, nothing more to say but I will leave here the translation of Jolenta letter to Nowak, I tried to translate them alongside with grammar mistakes made by her, it was difficult to make similar mistakes in English, it wasn't easy to read few words but I think I've did it with 90-95+% of accuracy The original text: Do ojciec „Dzięki pracujesz dla bóg i nas również dzisiaj. Uwielbiam ją ponieważ zawsze ze działają energicznie nawet w deszczowe lub wietrzne dni. Byłam szczęśliwa, mogąc zbierać kwiaty i słuchać śpiewu ptaków, gdy szłyśmy ramię. Dziękuje, że przyszedłaś spotkać się ze mna o zmroku. Zawsze jesteś taki miły ojciec.” Translation Title - To father [with error, which I can't translate] "Thanks you work for god and us to also today. I love her becouse always with act energetical even in rainy or windy days. I was happy, can collect flowers and listen birds singing when we walked arm. Thank you, that you comed to meet with me at dusk. You always are such nice father." Translation as how it should have sound correctly or at least to make more sense: Thank you father for working today for God's sake aswell as us. I love your job [as of the context it can only lead into job], because it always works energetic to me, even in rainy and windy days. I was happy as I could collect flowers and listen to birds singing, when we walked by holding out hands [As I think it was meant to be "szłyśmy/szliśmy w ramię" which can be understood as walking while holding hands]. Thank you that you've came to meet me at dusk. You have always been such a nice father" |
| From monday 13th janurary 22:30 of Polish time zone, up to another monday 20th of january I will be unable to reply, interact in forums as I am in that time in France, so I will be only using my list to update episodes and nothing else. |
| A little background, inspired by a 'movement' among churchmen. Anton Praetorius, German pastor, theologian. At first he wrote a treatise on how to ruthlessly fight witches, heretics, servants of false gods. But when he was put on trial, he was personally interrogated and tortured, and he reconsidered his views. He caused a scandal and one witch was released (three died of torture). But he was no longer welcome (he was not invited) and had to move to the Palatinate. There he wrote 'A thorough report on witchcraft and sorcerers', a work that condemned the trials of witches and sorcerers. And of course there was a lot of tinfoil hats. Balthasar Nuss is a favourite of the local bishop. As the bishop's position was precarious, he appointed Balthazar as an inquisitor to travel around and execute wealthy citizens. In this way, opponents, including potential opponents, were eliminated and the treasury was replenished. However, half of the confiscated property went to Balthazar himself. 270 people in four years. In the end, the bishop died and the good neighbours reminded the Inquisitor of everything. He was imprisoned for twelve years for illicit enrichment and finally beheaded. In general, in many trials, vested interests and political motives are clearly visible. |
Reply to CowconutMilk
As a polish person - Jolenta letter from flashbacks gave me physical pain, i dont understand why no one is consulting anyone when they must write something in foreign language... and its not only about polish language... after pronouncing the name Oczy (which is funny in itself - I start to understand Germans and their cringe while watching Frieren) I didn't think that something here would hurt more, but they managed to do it, I can't wait to see what else they will surprise me with...anyway this episode was really good!
| @CowconutMilk It's always like that, europe in anime represented in a very trivial way cuz the main audience is actually Japanese, correct representation is not neccessary. I remember old ecchi manga about russian dude "Seikon no Qwaser", and there he had something like power of iron and he was screaming the word 'Utyug', which is indeed a word for an iron in english, with only exception that it is word for flatiron and not for an actual metal (in russian word for iron metal is zhelezo). Author probably did couple of runs of google translate, first he translated iron from japanese to english and then from english to russian, sadly english is a very poor language in terms of words and most words have multiple meaning. What can I say, most colors in english don't even have different names they just add a very non-poetic explanation to existing colors like light blue or dark blue etc. |
LacingMasterJan 5, 10:52 AM
| Good subversion of expectations by letting Jolenta survive (for now) and still making Nowak feel the impact. Extremely convoluted way of passing knowledge, and too must trust on that priest. But I guess we have to embrace this as Badeni's genius. Realistically all this needs a backup option too though. |
| "All truth is meaningless. In the end, 'meaning' comes from the mind of each individual human. Even when there is a single truth, it can mean different things to different individuals. The truth has no meaning in itself!" - Erika Furudo |
Reply to Mackyreels
@victorxyuri1 he shaved their orbs peak fiction
| @Mackyreels hilarious comment, thx for a good laugh haha |
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| Nowak used to know when people's lying, but he's probably too shocked by the news to see through that lie |
| Hope we'll see Jolenta again. As much as I despise Nowak, I'll still be happy if one day he sees Jolenta or finds a hint that she's alive. Maybe the other young inquisitor will tell him the truth (who else would?). For now, it seems like Grabowski will be our new MC. Badeni was one crazy mf! 60 pages, 60 beggars. |
| Tattooing a book onto 60 homeless people's heads is a real jumping the shark moment. |
| poor Nowak... can't even direct his anger to the "culprits" for involve Jolenta with herect studies, since Badeni and Oczy are already dead... what to do? blame the church? anyway, Badeni you sly fox... dude had a crazy back up plan someone make a fanart of Badeni as All Might, and father Grabowski as Midoria in the "now it's your turn" scene, XD (I might end up trying myself) ps: why some ppl are talking like Jolenta really died? lol dude staged her death so well that convinced part of the public? |
Reply to Petrospit
@ropiel She didnt die she escaped.They faked her death by burning the one who let her escape as a punishment
| @Petrospit Yeah i guess that's what happened, i just thought she got caught off screen like Badeni. |
| Deep dark fantasies |
| Now THAT'S one way to make sure your work will somehow live on. All of that for daily rations of bread.... |
| I'm helplessly believing that Jolenta is still alive and well since I haven't seen no body yet. We have our next main character! |
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| Oh damn they really didn't let that inquisitor off at all. I expected torture but I wasnt sure they would kill him. Seems his words show he doesn't have as malicious views of heretics as others, while before it only seemed like he only let Jolenta off assuming her innocence. Still though I am not sure why he thought he could convince the very people who are in on the conspiracy or maybe he just didnt notice everyone who was in the room. I can't be only one who thinks Jolenta's face in the flashback looked too old for a 4 year old. Even though Nowak can be so cold hearted in his devotion I teared up a little at him having a delayed breakdown over thinking Jolenta is dead. Having a bunch of beggars be used as book pages is pretty wild. Seems they don't know what a book is or just don't have a clue what is tattooed on their heads. |
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| Novak being told Jolenta was dead and his reaction was pretty sad, that flashback story of jolenta and him made it even sadder its grabowski time |
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| Wtf man but it's definitely like Badeni to go that far for it. As much as it feels good watching Nowak get what he deserves that other piece of shit winning in this situation pisses me off. If only that orange hair wasn't dumb and contacted Nowak right away. |
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| Had to watch this episode much later than what I wanted to, because the episode was taking so much time to be available for some reason. When it was in fact released, it was already at a time I needed to focus on my studies, so only today I was able to catch up to it (watching the new episode right after this one). Anyways, amazing episode, especially the character development we got from Nowak, it was something that all of us wanted for a long time now, and we finally got it! The scene showing the story behind the gloves, and making the contrast between when he was holding Jolenta's hands with the gloves, and then holding Jolenta's gloves, but without her wearing them was a really emotional scene, being one of the most emotional scenes in the anime so far, alongside Nowak's scene crying. Not only this, but we got the revelation of Badeni's plan, that honestly no one was expecting. Badeni had a mind that really goes beyond what someone could expect. Although not really moraly correct, but using the homeless to record his findings was really genius. And it seems like Badeni's partner in the church is having an hard time knowing that his tip eventually led to Badeni's death, and is actually tempted to follow his research and make it possible for his research to prevail through times. Also, none of this would be achieved without Oczy's kindness, so Oczy was essential for this to work out too. The initial scene with the young man that saved Jolenta was really sad, because I knew they were going to kill him, but it's sad to see that such a pure-hearted person just got burned to death by doing what church was preaching, and not serving the selfish purposes of that guy. His partner also didn't do anything, even though they were "friends". I wonder if he's going to ever tell Nowak the truth. Also, it's clear Nowak understands that the story they told was not the truth. The opening and ending maintain the same, but seeing we are moving to the next generation, I wonder if the opening ot the ending will change next episode. One good thing of watching the episode this late, is that I can already jump to the next episode! |
Reply to KOTFTW
Nowak is such a well built Antagonist, I almost felt sad for him, but he did get a taste of his own medicine.
"I SHAVED 60 BEGGARS HEADS TO MAKE A BOOK " - I can see the Youtube views rolling in. But in all seriousness, is it complete luck that this system would work at all. What the hell was Badeni Smoking? To painfully tattoo 60 peoples heads, who are highly likely to die of diseases, that roam around, that will not mention it to anyone else and find the right person specifically 1 month after not receiving bread.
"I SHAVED 60 BEGGARS HEADS TO MAKE A BOOK " - I can see the Youtube views rolling in. But in all seriousness, is it complete luck that this system would work at all. What the hell was Badeni Smoking? To painfully tattoo 60 peoples heads, who are highly likely to die of diseases, that roam around, that will not mention it to anyone else and find the right person specifically 1 month after not receiving bread.
KOTFTW said: "I SHAVED 60 BEGGARS HEADS TO MAKE A BOOK " - I can see the Youtube views rolling in. But in all seriousness, is it complete luck that this system would work at all. What the hell was Badeni Smoking? To painfully tattoo 60 peoples heads, who are highly likely to die of diseases, that roam around, that will not mention it to anyone else and find the right person specifically 1 month after not receiving bread. He did say that the plan had almost 0% chances of working out, but he and Oczy were holding on to the 0,1% of chance of working out |
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