Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
| Lately I've been seeing more and more Re:Zero fans who hate Gigguk because "his film has intensified hatred for Re:Zero" and he's generally hurt the series. It's funny to me and I don't understand it at all, the guy recorded a simple parody and people attribute evil intentions to him, sometimes the criticism of haters coincides with what Gigguk mocked so it's definitely all because of him xD somehow I've never seen, for example, Aot fans get mad at him for a parody of the first season xD What do you think about this? |
Reply to EggoGBones
People make Parodies of things all the time so I am not sure why Gigguk is being attacked specifically. Especially since he likes the series a lot and probably meant no harm with that video.
| @EggoGBones Because of the greatest reach, and consequently the greatest influence. As an aside, I think that some people attribute too much influence to anitubers, in the sense that they assume that only they can think for themselves, and others are unthinkingly influenced by YT videos. |
| people don't like gigguk because his "parody" is a blatant misrepresentation of what the show is about, but it acts too much like it's making fun of perceived story "flaws," (most of which are just him misunderstanding things) instead of being a whole different thing. and i guarantee, that video, along with his other one where he says re:zero isn't a masterpiece, turned a significant amount of people off from the story. i mean, it has 16 million views. |
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Reply to rwhip81
Probably due to the toxicity of this fan base, if I had to guess. They do not handle criticism of this show at all. Gigguk didn’t say this show was an 11/10, so he needs to be hated on apparently…
| @rwhip81 we don't handle criticism well because it's never good. valid re:zero criticism always comes from the fans themselves. there's only so many times you can hear the same awful arguments stemming from total lack of media comprehension before you get fed up. by the way, can you think of a fanbase that does handle criticism well? i don't feel like the anime community is exactly good at that. i definitely wouldn't call the re:zero fanbase toxic, they're pretty tame compared to a lot of other shows. all re:zero fans aren't okeanix lol. i love the guy but if he's your standard for the average re:zero fan, your perception of the community is off. |
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| I thought gigguk was a real early endorcer of re zero since s1. |
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| >Caring about what westerners think about Japanese cartoons hehe you ok bud? |
Reply to Myname_Nana
@rohan121
In his recent videos, Gigguk has a scornful face when he saw re: Zero is in the top 20 (top 18) out of 100 Anime Reddit Of All Time, he said Re: Zero doesn't deserves to be there and it shouldn't be inside top 20 because it's too high or some shit, but when he saw MT in the top 15 out of 100, he was all happy and shit or even Frieren in the Top 1 out of 100 he's doesn't have scorn face like that.
it's just the biased view from him that we dislike and his past comments or reviews about re: zero don't help his case of being "neutral" as much as he claims to be in his videos.
The crazy thing is that Kadokawa chose him as an endorser of the S3 poster back when the S3 was announced last year. (Re: Zero S3 poster was sold online)
I thought Gigguk was a real early endorser of re zero since s1.
In his recent videos, Gigguk has a scornful face when he saw re: Zero is in the top 20 (top 18) out of 100 Anime Reddit Of All Time, he said Re: Zero doesn't deserves to be there and it shouldn't be inside top 20 because it's too high or some shit, but when he saw MT in the top 15 out of 100, he was all happy and shit or even Frieren in the Top 1 out of 100 he's doesn't have scorn face like that.
it's just the biased view from him that we dislike and his past comments or reviews about re: zero don't help his case of being "neutral" as much as he claims to be in his videos.
The crazy thing is that Kadokawa chose him as an endorser of the S3 poster back when the S3 was announced last year. (Re: Zero S3 poster was sold online)
| @Myname_Nana that video annoyed tf out of me, he sees re:zero and says shit like "it's not a classic, too recent, needs more time, etc" (even though it's been out for eight years and has 56 episodes and a movie) and then two entries later mushoku comes up, which isn't even four years old yet, and he's totally fine with it? |
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| gigguk is just an anituber, and he should be seen as such. If people are easily gullible to his views, their loss. We move on. |
| "All truth is meaningless. In the end, 'meaning' comes from the mind of each individual human. Even when there is a single truth, it can mean different things to different individuals. The truth has no meaning in itself!" - Erika Furudo |
| Gigguk has fallen off quite bad. That reddit video was proof(that ranking was great). His normal videos on main channel are still good. But his opinions became worse like he even started hating on MT, every Isekai & romance. He said OnK nothing special but a "best girl war" anime I mean wtf. |
Reply to AshTheChamp
Y'all don't really watch Gigguk nowadays do you?
He is quite the fan of Re:Zero especially the second Season.
Those butthurt Re:Zero fans should grow up and realise that the parody was 8 years ago just like his old MAL Account.
@WaterMage No he didn't "hate" on Mushoku Tensei. He just pointed smth out that he didn't expect from it. The finale of season 2 was pretty rushed and it should have had at least one more episode, so I can understand Gigguks concerns
He is quite the fan of Re:Zero especially the second Season.
Those butthurt Re:Zero fans should grow up and realise that the parody was 8 years ago just like his old MAL Account.
@WaterMage No he didn't "hate" on Mushoku Tensei. He just pointed smth out that he didn't expect from it. The finale of season 2 was pretty rushed and it should have had at least one more episode, so I can understand Gigguks concerns
| @AshTheChamp he later clarified after watching last episode but the reaction to Roxy episode was way too over the top. I heard the skipped few things but I think they did it alright without actually not making characters (Roxy & Elinalese) worse. (I didn't read I just heard what other people said). He jumped the gun without even letting the story finish. He seemed lot more genuine when he actually defended MT during 1-3 cours. And he never misses an opportunity to diss on isekais just cause its trend. |
| My only problem with Gigguk is that he watched ss1 at 2x speed then gave it a 6 on MAL and said it was overrated. I mean dude has the right to dislike Re:Zero or any show and heck even gives it a rating of 1 for all I care. But he should've given the show a proper watch before talking shit about it. Idk if he continued treating ss2&ss3 that way. Other than that, most of his takes were somewhat fair imo. In his video about ss1 he said it was entertaining because of the shock factor and the events being all over the place but nothing felt connected, and he didn't know where the story was heading into. This criticism likely stemmed from the wrong expectation that ss1 should just be a self-contained typical seasonal isekai where unga bunga things happen so Gigguk didn't try to look further than the surface level. But tbf ss1 didn't make the goal clear enough and this series has a tendency to keep the audiences in the dark until eventually they just lose interest/forget about the mysteries. We just also had a thread about this problem and thankfully the conversation was rather peaceful. Speaking of ss2, iirc Gigguk thought it was slow and sluggish which is a common issue people had with it. He admitted that not until ss2 did he take the series seriously. And ss2 to him felt like just a set-up season for the subsequent arcs. At least he acknowledged the character developments and the world building which is a huge W and even praised it as his personal best anime of 2020 (He then later said there wasn't really any competition in that year, take that as you will) Lately Gigguk said on stream that he spent time rewatching ss2p2 (another W) and has caught up with ss3. He said he was impressed by it but he didn't think this season would be better than ss2 given how similar it felt to the ss1 (which he didn't think highly of). Overall I believe his opinion on Re:Zero has improved a lot as the series goes on. I think it's just that he realized by now Re:Zero is a long-running series so he is cautious about singing his praises this soon before he can have the ending in sight considering how many great series got ruined by bad ones lately. |
newluminousNov 11, 2024 3:17 AM
| People are simple. They call a something mid for any good or bad reason, someone popular calls it mid too, their ego inflates. These people weren't going to like Re:Zero in the first place. Gigguk's parody video and his old season 1 take ("Re:Zero is not a masterpiece but is damn enjoyable") is understandable. At the time it was hard to have an idea of the larger picture of Re:Zero's storytelling and focus on character and psychological development. It's also why many season 1 lovers felt somewhat betrayed by season 2's much denser, slower and visually duller experience. There are probably a small handful of people who avoided watching Re:Zero after season Gigguk's old content about the show, but let's be honest: if they lack the attention span to take time and acknowledge that "Re:Zero in 8 minutes" is a parody, or that they might like Re:Zero anyway if they actually tried it, they probably would also lack the attention span to properly listen and have the best watching experience they could have with Re:Zero. TL;DR: The "negative" impact from Gigguk's old videos was most likely negligible at worst. |
QcDiabloNov 11, 2024 4:45 AM
| Maybe Gigguk saw too many Okeanix posts. |
| We now live in an age where an opposing viewpoint or opinion warrants vitriol and harassment. |
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Reply to Janethan23
We now live in an age where an opposing viewpoint or opinion warrants vitriol and harassment.
| @Janethan23 All times are the same in this respect xDD |
| Freedom of Speech. Let do what he wants. But what did he expect? You cant ironically shit on something that many people love without catching some smoke.... |
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Reply to Merve2Love
Freedom of Speech. Let do what he wants.
But what did he expect?
You cant ironically shit on something that many people love without catching some smoke....
But what did he expect?
You cant ironically shit on something that many people love without catching some smoke....
| @Merve2Love He can do it, he also made parodies of many other anime, e.g. Aot and somehow I have never seen Aot fans get so much pain in the ass |
Reply to Ba-Cii10
@Merve2Love He can do it, he also made parodies of many other anime, e.g. Aot and somehow I have never seen Aot fans get so much pain in the ass
| @Ba-Cii10 What? Isn't that what Hardcore AoT Fans are kinda famous for? o.O |
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Reply to Merve2Love
| @Merve2Love Yes, but not in this case, only the Re:Zero fandom shit itself because of the parody xD |
| Why do you care about shills and sellouts? |
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bastek66 said: Why do you care about shills and sellouts? ...exactly. Thank you for the practical post. 🙏  |
Reply to mohamedo_abuduru
people don't like gigguk because his "parody" is a blatant misrepresentation of what the show is about, but it acts too much like it's making fun of perceived story "flaws," (most of which are just him misunderstanding things) instead of being a whole different thing. and i guarantee, that video, along with his other one where he says re:zero isn't a masterpiece, turned a significant amount of people off from the story. i mean, it has 16 million views.
| @mohamedo_abuduru I'm going to be honest with you, I don't see that at all. I quite like Re:Zero and think the video he made is aight and quite funny. While I understand how his way of changing scenes for the purpose of comedy rather than accuracy could be interpreted as "blatant misrepresentation", I think this is more so a problem of expectations. From my perspective, the video didn't set out to literally Re:Zero in 8 minutes, I see it as a comedy video that uses Re:Zero's first season as a basis. This is not meant to sum up the plot or give you a complex understanding of what is going on, like, obviously that isn't the point. So the question becomes, if a joke alters scenes and story beats for the sake of comedy, why is that a problem? To me, this all comes down to what message it sends. If you watch a comedian misrepresent a work in such a way where you feel that they are mocking it, I sympathise with all who find that to be a bit of a dick move. Now, I obviously can only speak for myself and the handful of friends who I watched both Re:Zero and the video with, but we all like Re:Zero and Gigguk's parody. Again, I obviously am in no position to tell somebody what they can and can't be offended by, BUT, to me, this seems a bit excessive. He likes the show and made a parody of it, you don't have to like it but don't turn this into a big deal. I mean, let's be straight here for a second, nobody was turned off from watching the show based on his parody video. |
| Hello, please don't take anything I say as an insult, it is not meant as an attack against you as a person. If I directly disagree with you, that does not mean I think you are wrong, I am just more correct. |
mohamedo_abuduru said: people don't like gigguk because his "parody" is a blatant misrepresentation of what the show is about, but it acts too much like it's making fun of perceived story "flaws," (most of which are just him misunderstanding things) instead of being a whole different thing. and i guarantee, that video, along with his other one where he says re:zero isn't a masterpiece, turned a significant amount of people off from the story. i mean, it has 16 million views. you spend too much time on reddit |
| That is one reason to Start the SAO HATE trend. That's how it became one of the most infamously overhated show, where newbies try hard to match thier experience with the parodies. It does have it's flaws ngl, but the hate trend just escalated too far. Even he accepts how all these started. He likes SAO tho, after ALICIZATION especially. But apart from SAO, no anime parody had that much misunderstanding. This Is just their job. As for re:zero, fan's just fear the misinterpretation some people might take on the show, that's all. Any Fans will get raged for talking shit about their beloved franchise. |
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Reply to mohamedo_abuduru
people don't like gigguk because his "parody" is a blatant misrepresentation of what the show is about, but it acts too much like it's making fun of perceived story "flaws," (most of which are just him misunderstanding things) instead of being a whole different thing. and i guarantee, that video, along with his other one where he says re:zero isn't a masterpiece, turned a significant amount of people off from the story. i mean, it has 16 million views.
| @mohamedo_abuduru could it be Gigguks fault it has taken 8 years for a 3rd season? For damaging perception of ratings? Then again Tappei got two other random shows made, despite those shows having average popularity. |
Reply to RuneRem
@mohamedo_abuduru could it be Gigguks fault it has taken 8 years for a 3rd season? For damaging perception of ratings?
Then again Tappei got two other random shows made, despite those shows having average popularity.
Then again Tappei got two other random shows made, despite those shows having average popularity.
| @RuneRem lol that's not it, gigguk has zero bearing on the domestic reception on the show, and when it comes to anime and manga Japan only really cares about what Japan thinks. I just believe gigguk made a noticeable impact on the Western community's feelings towards the show. |
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Reply to mohamedo_abuduru
@RuneRem lol that's not it, gigguk has zero bearing on the domestic reception on the show, and when it comes to anime and manga Japan only really cares about what Japan thinks. I just believe gigguk made a noticeable impact on the Western community's feelings towards the show.
| @mohamedo_abuduru do you know why it took them so long, Tappei had two generic animes released in 2020? |
Reply to RuneRem
@mohamedo_abuduru do you know why it took them so long, Tappei had two generic animes released in 2020?
| @RuneRem 1 - anime takes a while to make, there are many studio and production related factors as well that could've contributed, 2 - the anime adapts the light novel, not the web novel, and season 1 basically caught up to how much of the light novel was out at the time i believe, so they had to wait for more to come out, 3 - covid, 4 - white fox lost a lot of staff around the time of s2 and had to get their shit back together, 5 - re:zero's first two seasons are 25 episodes each and many episodes have extended length and no openings, so those 2 seasons are the equivalent of 4 or even 5 seasons of only 12 episodes. I can't explain the Vivy case though, that's just Tappei being based i guess. |
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Reply to mohamedo_abuduru
@RuneRem 1 - anime takes a while to make, there are many studio and production related factors as well that could've contributed, 2 - the anime adapts the light novel, not the web novel, and season 1 basically caught up to how much of the light novel was out at the time i believe, so they had to wait for more to come out, 3 - covid, 4 - white fox lost a lot of staff around the time of s2 and had to get their shit back together, 5 - re:zero's first two seasons are 25 episodes each and many episodes have extended length and no openings, so those 2 seasons are the equivalent of 4 or even 5 seasons of only 12 episodes.
I can't explain the Vivy case though, that's just Tappei being based i guess.
I can't explain the Vivy case though, that's just Tappei being based i guess.
| @mohamedo_abuduru what happened to White fox during season 2? As for 25 episodes counting as multiple seasons. What do you consider the normal amount of episodes, 12 or 24? |
Reply to RuneRem
@mohamedo_abuduru what happened to White fox during season 2?
As for 25 episodes counting as multiple seasons. What do you consider the normal amount of episodes, 12 or 24?
As for 25 episodes counting as multiple seasons. What do you consider the normal amount of episodes, 12 or 24?
| @RuneRem studio white fox lost a lot of their employees when they and the production company egg firm joined to create studio bind, the studio doing mushoku. there's not really a "normal" amount of episodes, I'm just pointing out that re:zero's "seasons" are much bigger than a 12 episode season, so when you say it took 8 years for a third season, there were still 50 episodes (like i said, many of which had extended length and no opening/ending) within those 8 years, which is much more impressive sounding |
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