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this is peak i love it so much ive never been so excited over a het kiss for real it got me screaming bouta reread the entire chapter like 10 ten times
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I can't believe Ruby did it!! I can't believe she kissed him! I love this manga and this chapter!! ๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ“š

Two things I learned here: Sarina-chan's 12-year-old mental age retains in Ruby, and Aqua is experiencing survivor's guilt. He said Dr. Gลrล doesn't exist anymore, or rather, he's not the carefree doctor he was back then yet he still puts on the glasses to swoon Sarina-chan's heart.

That kiss is expected since Volume 1. We won't get anywhere in this manga until we see the reincarnated doctor and his patient get a kissing scene in this series. Having said that, the creators are really making a bold move here: whatever finale they have in mind, it's gonna be cemented in the romantic relationship between Aqua and Ruby.


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Mar 18, 11:47 AM

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Okay, Okay, Let's see, let's be honest, let's be honest, it's not just the issue of incest, the same fact that Aka tries to make Sarina look like someone older, to omit the fact that she was a 12-year-old girl , when she fell in love with a 30-year-old man, It smells a lot like a pedophile problem in the Aka's unconscious.... and now I will explain what is the point about this problem. Do you understand what I mean? It's not just the problem of incest, but since chapter 142, Sarina tries to make Aqua see her as someone older, not as the 12-year-old girl she was? I mean, what happened Aka? Isn't it okay that a girl who was a 12-year-old patient of a 30-year-old doctor can have a relationship more than just friends and patient-doctor? What happened? what is wrong? aaaah Pedophilia, and we are supposed to believe that now because they are the same age and chronologically they have more years in their minds, there is no problem, but hey, the incest issue is no longer a problem either, because they are not soul brothers, but biological, yes, I mean...

We have, on the one hand, Aka telling us that as long as two people love each other, but if they are not very old, with a difference of 15 years, like a little girl and an older man, there is no problem in love, because as long as he or she imagine yourself at close ages, pedophilia is fine. And in the case of Incest, it also works well, because if both are reincarnations of people who loved each other, even though they are now siblings, being a couple is fine too, in the end... so what are you telling me Aka? Whether it is Pedophilia or Incest, both things are fine, is there love?

Bullshit.

Yes, yes, yes, now the idiots who don't read beyond what appears in the manga will come and say: "it's fiction, but don't take it so seriously" "it's just fiction." Yes, but it happens that there is a saying that says: "There's no smoke without fire"... so, a mangaka and others were convicted of possession of children's pornographic material, even though they had written works that dealt with the subject or at least hinted at it. in his works, Nobuhiro Nishiwaki (Rurouni Kenshin) and Tatsuya Matsuki (Act-Age), for example, and it happens that if they are dangerous guys and declared and recognized pedophiles... then what should I assume with Aka approving this kind of content What does imply this pedophilia, or incest on his manga?... yes, one might think that this is being taken too far, almost like accusing Aka of being a pedophile or that he likes strange fetishes, okay, I hope not, but what if in does he really have that kind of taste? If we talk about the facts, the facts are the ones on his manga, those are facts. Those who like to talk about specific topics do so not precisely because they dislike them, but because they like them. Whoever makes an ode about something, it is not precisely because they do not like that ode.

And be careful, I'm not talking about using the topic like pedophilia or incest as a way to criticize such behaviors, like Airi's with Kamiki, because that is a crime, a crime against minors, but it happens that he accuses Airi of this crime, and in the next chapter he tells me that it's okay for Sarina to ask Gorou to perceive her as an adult and not as the 12-year-old girl he knew?... Are you kidding me? We're supposed to be coming from such a sensitive topic about child abuse and the systematic rape of Kamiki, and here you are telling me now that as long as the girl considers herself capable of perceiving herself as someone who can have a relationship with an adult, and she grants it even if she is a minor, that's fine. Oh really? Does anyone see the powerfull sociological implication and the false morality that Aka presents here? I mean, it's not okay to abuse children, but if children ask adults to see them as adults, they can abuse them.

Well done Aka, very good message, honest and forceful towards the young people and towards the adults who want to legalize pedoshits with them.
@DarkL0lik0n69 You have a very strong argument. Love the saying you pointed out, "There can be no smoke without fire."

We don't have excuses as to why we like incest in this manga. For me personally, I love how Ruby made the first move to kiss Aqua. She's sealing the deal: she wants Aqua and Aqua alone, and nothing or no one should take him away from Sarina-chan's reincarnated life.

On the other hand, you are right on, "What are the creators trying to say? That incest is okay? That it's okay for Dr. Gลrล to perceive a 12-year-old Sarina-chan as an adult Ruby?"

If there is no romance between the two reincarnated siblings, the story doesn't seem it will go on the right direction. If Aqua and Ruby remain siblings in the finale of the series, it will contradict what the creators established in Chapter 1 (how Sarina fancies Dr. Gลrล very much.)

So, if this is the direction the creators want for [Oshi no Ko] to take, so be it. I am in for it for 90% even if it disgusts me 10%.
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Mar 18, 8:35 PM
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The incest just ruined the story for me
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@DarkL0lik0n69 You have a very strong argument. Love the saying you pointed out, "There can be no smoke without fire."

We don't have excuses as to why we like incest in this manga. For me personally, I love how Ruby made the first move to kiss Aqua. She's sealing the deal: she wants Aqua and Aqua alone, and nothing or no one should take him away from Sarina-chan's reincarnated life.

On the other hand, you are right on, "What are the creators trying to say? That incest is okay? That it's okay for Dr. Gลrล to perceive a 12-year-old Sarina-chan as an adult Ruby?"

If there is no romance between the two reincarnated siblings, the story doesn't seem it will go on the right direction. If Aqua and Ruby remain siblings in the finale of the series, it will contradict what the creators established in Chapter 1 (how Sarina fancies Dr. Gลrล very much.)

So, if this is the direction the creators want for [Oshi no Ko] to take, so be it. I am in for it for 90% even if it disgusts me 10%.
@marquinti2 AkuRuby ending would be fucking peak! Hope Aka grew some balls to finish this masterpiece.
Mar 19, 2:55 PM
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At least he survived
Mar 20, 2:21 AM

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Had more fun reading the fanbase reactions than the chapter itself lmao

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@Kipo0007 Aka and Mengo cooked in Sukuna's Malevolent Kitchen
@mo_lave lmao they sure did. Peak cinema xD
Mar 20, 2:49 PM

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Main degenerate coping mechanisms I've seen:

1) "Now the series tourists will leave and us real fans will stay."
2) "Um, what's the problem? It's just fiction."

These things are total mental disconnect about why incest isn't enjoyable to read if it's an unironic story element. Literal cope.

But anyway, having caught up to the series, I don't think that's the actual route going on here. Clearly it's the calm before a more illuminating storm of character moments and events. Which honestly makes the aforementioned coping mechanisms even funnier. The real tourists are the ones getting stoked over the most shallow level aspect of the "incest." Makes me wonder if they actually read the manga to determine that there's more than that brewing beneath the surface in how the story normally progresses. Not that I can say much as a new reader who binged all the chapters, but even that was obvious to me.

Honestly, I think if it does take a turn into actual, unironic, romantic incest that would be a left-turn that defies the normal procedure of the series' "big brain" traits, and would simply just mean that the writing was poorly done. Willing to accept that possibility will happen and won't feel concerned about moving on to something else.
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LinkcarioX said:
I'm going to let Aka cook, considering the circumstances I want to see where and how this goes.
I personally think this was an innevitable event that was going to happen sooner or later, not a fan of it but it is what it is.

I don't want to shit on a story that has been consistently good and interesting until everything ends.

Finally a normal fucking opinion in these comments. I 100% agree. If this is the end game, I will be extremely disappointed, but what has happened so far doesn’t discredit the whole manga.
Mar 21, 5:31 PM
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Idk what I was expecting but man I really didn't want there to be incest ๐Ÿ˜”
Mar 21, 11:49 PM

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I'm not surprised, just disappointed
Mar 23, 3:51 AM
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'- / -''' wtf was this chp.
Mar 23, 3:53 AM
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ewwww they kissed. 5/5 chp
Mar 24, 1:18 PM
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I needed a shower after this chapter wtf
Mar 24, 3:59 PM
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jas-samaaa said:
๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ bruhh, can we go back to finding out who killed Ai.

ohhh yes please the last arc is just waist of time bro the director found the killer with 10 pages when Aqua took 80+ chapters just to find his name ๐Ÿ’€
Mar 27, 10:49 PM

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@marquinti2 AkuRuby ending would be fucking peak! Hope Aka grew some balls to finish this masterpiece.
@nbcol987 I hope he does. Aka Akasaka's Kaguya-sama finale doesn't sit right with me. He got lazy by the end of the series just so he can start Oshi no Ko. It might be a good decision for the Oshi no Ko fans but it's a bad decision for the Kaguya-sama fans (to have an ending that left a bad aftertaste in your mouth).


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Apr 5, 12:07 PM

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Thank you, Akasaka, you made one of the worst things I have ever read.
"It all returns to nothing, it just keeps TUMBLING DOWN, TUMBLING DOWN, TUMBLING DOWN..."
Apr 9, 4:12 AM
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bro the main goal of this manga is supposed to be aqua and ruby work together to find who the f is the responsible for killing their mother which is their father and he is never shown up only in flashbacks any unnecessary direction on the story will ruin the tension that makes this manga interesting and since they added something unnecessary in the story the sis con thing back in ch 23 I did have concerns about personally I Don't understand why the authors like this type if directions really and also it's an illegal relation if you added their previous lives so it's pedophilia it doesn't make sense at all and let's put aside the incest/pedo thing the main theme of story the thriller theme is fading the excitement about finding who is the father of aqua and ruby and what will happen between them that what make the story stand
Apr 9, 5:40 PM
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Unhappy Chapter 143 of "Oshi no Ko".

I feel like this manga is getting a lot of undeserved hate. Before you rush to insult me in every possible way, at least read what I want to convey to you.

Yes, this incest was a total shock, quite unexpected, but aren't it the unusual things that make stories incredible? I'm not saying this in the sense of "THIS IS IT, THIS IS THE INCEST WE NEEDED!!!" Naturally, it's the out-of-the-ordinary things that attract people, and the author knew that detail. It was a good move on his part; more controversy equals more visibility. It took a lot of courage for him to pull off such a feat. However, I don't believe he will have the determination to carry on. If he does, he will have my respect.

The fact is, this detail won't completely ruin the work. "Oshi no Ko" remains amazing, at least for me. The series "Game of Thrones" also features incest and still ranks as one of the best in the world. Again, not because of this act, but because of how it was addressed and how it led to the downfall of an entire dynasty. If the author handles this romance well, I believe it could become an interesting plot.

I still root for Kana; however, I firmly believe that he doesn't deserve her. I just hope she gets a happy ending.

What do you think? Do I have a point, or am I just hallucinating?
Apr 26, 7:47 PM

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She is his biggest fan.
And yes, that happened.
They kissed.
And it looks like filming is wrapping up.
May 25, 3:17 AM

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Ruby being a brat and being excited is really cute, her face expressions especially

I was REALLY afraid what all the fuss was about that I even left the Oshi no Ko subreddit because there was such a commotion going on about this chapter but after reading it I feel relieved that somebody didn't die or something

But talking about it, it is indeed a regrettable development in what has so far been in my opinion a perfect manga. I don't know where Aka-sensei is going with this, but hopefully it won't go the OreImo route. They might've been unrelated individuals in their past lives, but here they are brother and sister. They can't deny that. It's in their biology even. I hope there won't be anything more to this and that this stops here.
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I think Japanese media especially ani-manga needs a re-evaluation, ion know what sort of uncultured filth you have to be to support this. What especially ticks me off is that this turn of events is completely intentional, this incestuous kissing seen is not necessary to the plot whatsoever, this disgrace of a scene could've been left out and nobody would've flagged the lack of incest in the story. This was a painfully poor and tasteless decision that I'm starting to piece together as maybe something that is intrinsic in Japanese media, which is a scary thought to be honest.

Oct 24, 7:35 AM

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ABSOLUTE INCEST! โœ‹๐Ÿ˜ฎ๐Ÿคš
Oct 26, 2:05 PM

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I really don't know how to call it but a fanservice chapter for freaks obsessed with incest
Nov 4, 3:33 AM

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Incest has never been this beautiful.
PEAK
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Aqua-Ruby wins (yikes)...
Der Best Girl Kreig ist Verloren... :(
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