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Nov 19, 2023 5:10 AM
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Seriously, 1/3 of an episode duration is just Intro, OP theme, recap, ED theme and omake aka not real content.

The first 2 episodes were so great with nice pacing and animation, but it's become slogfest it's like every week is a whole 24 minutes of nothing. no progress, no nothing.

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Nov 19, 2023 5:44 AM
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Omake content doesn't really matter as the episodes are longer than a normal show, thus without the omake thing it would be the usual 23:40-~24m show, counting OP and ED.

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Nov 19, 2023 5:48 AM
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The last episode was like a 9 boss rush, pull your head out of your ass.
Nov 19, 2023 5:51 AM
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Yes why would anyone want to end S1 at some other point and the pacing is perfect, any faster and it will turn into another ragna crimson.
Nov 19, 2023 6:08 AM
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tbh i do find the pacing a bit off especially when you wait a week for each ep but in the long run i reckon it will be perfect to watch in entirety
Nov 19, 2023 6:08 AM
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Go watch SAO then, they are so fast pacing that they even changed the whole game....
Nov 19, 2023 6:40 AM
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Omake content doesn't really matter as the episodes are longer than a normal show, thus without the omake thing it would be the usual 23:40-~24m show, counting OP and ED.
@BetterBegoneThot the episode isn't longer than normal anime episode
real content of an epsiode of shangrila frontier is only around 16 minutes / episode
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Nov 19, 2023 6:49 AM
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come back when you actually read the manga properly. this pacing is actually too fast.
Nov 19, 2023 7:07 AM
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GangsterCat said:
@BetterBegoneThot the episode isn't longer than normal anime episode
real content of an epsiode of shangrila frontier is only around 16 minutes / episode

Let me correct myself: most of the episodes are 25-26m long (the ones listed as almost 24 I'm not sure if they skip OP, ED or omake, so I'm just ignoring them for now). OP and ED alone makes 3m in total, omake I'm pretty sure it's at much 1m and a half long, which makes the total episode length between ~20-22m. I haven't watched the show after E2 for simul reasons, but I'm 100% sure that there's no way you can get a 4m recap in an episode. Hell, not even MS shows such as Sailor Moon or PreCure can be cutted down to 15-16m even with the henshin+final attacks animations.

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Nov 19, 2023 7:11 AM

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The pacing isn't bothering me because the whole point of the show is eviscerating the game, discovering every little detail, with no cheap thrills to raise the tension.
Nov 19, 2023 7:11 AM
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atleast they dont do stupid reviews every single episode that takes more than half of the whole episode like mha does
Nov 19, 2023 7:34 AM

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@BetterBegoneThot the episode isn't longer than normal anime episode
real content of an epsiode of shangrila frontier is only around 16 minutes / episode

Let me correct myself: most of the episodes are 25-26m long (the ones listed as almost 24 I'm not sure if they skip OP, ED or omake, so I'm just ignoring them for now). OP and ED alone makes 3m in total, omake I'm pretty sure it's at much 1m and a half long, which makes the total episode length between ~20-22m. I haven't watched the show after E2 for simul reasons, but I'm 100% sure that there's no way you can get a 4m recap in an episode. Hell, not even MS shows such as Sailor Moon or PreCure can be cutted down to 15-16m even with the henshin+final attacks animations.
@BetterBegoneThot This week episode literally only truly started at 4 minute mark
the episode ended when there's still 4 minutes 10 second left, that's for ED and omake
In this week episode, we lost 8 minutes and 10 second for nothing.
that's a huge waste of time.

This week episode duration is 23 minutes 55 seconds, just like every other episode

So, yes, 1/3 of a typical Shangri La Frontier episode is no-content padding
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Nov 19, 2023 7:47 AM
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What do you mean the pace is slow, the guy fought unique monster and unlocked unique scenario like 4 episodes in. What do you exactly want, sword art onlines 92 levels skipped offscreen type thing?
Nov 19, 2023 9:11 AM

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Try watching One Piece at Wano arc, maybe you would then stop complaining about things like this.
Nov 19, 2023 9:12 AM
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komic said:
come back when you actually read the manga properly. this pacing is actually too fast.

ikr I'm not familiar with the Manga but even then I can feel that it's pretty fast with how many levels and quests we've gone through. Still a lot of fun though
Nov 19, 2023 10:44 AM

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WalterBlack59 said:
komic said:
come back when you actually read the manga properly. this pacing is actually too fast.

ikr I'm not familiar with the Manga but even then I can feel that it's pretty fast with how many levels and quests we've gone through. Still a lot of fun though

exactly. hell the mud shark thing took 3 or 4 chapters to beat and they did it in half an episode.
Nov 19, 2023 12:02 PM

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The problem isn't the pacing. If anything it's actually fast. The problem is the content, or rather the lack there of. It's just meaningless battle after meaningless battle and then the frustrating to watch omakes incorporated into the episode. There's no good content and that's why the pacing is fast, because if it wasn't this would be unwatchable. It took a bit of time for people to realize but better late than never, I guess.
Nov 19, 2023 12:08 PM

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There's an easier solution: wait until more of the show is out, then binge it. Clearly watching weekly isn't working for you.
Nov 19, 2023 3:08 PM
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N1nj4L1nk said:
The last episode was like a 9 boss rush, pull your head out of your ass.

That was in the manga too so it’s still accurate
Nov 19, 2023 3:12 PM
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WalterBlack59 said:
komic said:
come back when you actually read the manga properly. this pacing is actually too fast.

ikr I'm not familiar with the Manga but even then I can feel that it's pretty fast with how many levels and quests we've gone through. Still a lot of fun though

As somebody who also read the manga the manga felt faster for me but I binge read it all in a short time. The pacing feels slowish but it’s very detailed and makes sense for adapting something as intricate as this series is the fights are very well choreographed and the animation is superb I can’t complain
Nov 19, 2023 4:01 PM

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I really want to like this anime but what's it for me is that the mc is a real idiot at times and quite stupid to watch at times.
Nov 20, 2023 2:37 AM

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I don't know if its a pacing issue or what, all I know is I was pretty high on this show for the first two episodes and every week I grow less and less interested. Sure it's got some nice animation at times but I can't help feeling bored by meaningless battle after meaningless battle. Also fire whoever decided to waste time on Omakes every episode.
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I don't know if its a pacing issue or what, all I know is I was pretty high on this show for the first two episodes and every week I grow less and less interested. Sure it's got some nice animation at times but I can't help feeling bored by meaningless battle after meaningless battle. Also fire whoever decided to waste time on Omakes every episode.
@Dernus because NOTHING happened so far. everything feels like a padding filler fighting against random monsters. The overall pacing is also really slow, we really didn't need 2 episodes for Pencilgon PK ambush. I've read the manga and there are some interesting things, but the anime's gonna take forever until we reach those parts.
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Nov 20, 2023 6:07 AM
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GangsterCat said:
@Dernus because NOTHING happened so far. everything feels like a padding filler fighting against random monsters. The overall pacing is also really slow, we really didn't need 2 episodes for Pencilgon PK ambush. I've read the manga and there are some interesting things, but the anime's gonna take forever until we reach those parts.

That’s not filler, it all happens in the manga… 💀

Nov 20, 2023 6:25 AM

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@Dernus because NOTHING happened so far. everything feels like a padding filler fighting against random monsters. The overall pacing is also really slow, we really didn't need 2 episodes for Pencilgon PK ambush. I've read the manga and there are some interesting things, but the anime's gonna take forever until we reach those parts.

That’s not filler, it all happens in the manga… 💀
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Nov 20, 2023 2:25 PM
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DoctorBryce said:
N1nj4L1nk said:
The last episode was like a 9 boss rush, pull your head out of your ass.

That was in the manga too so it’s still accurate

Way to absolutely miss the point.
Nov 29, 2023 10:53 AM
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till ep 9 still boring, don't understand so high score, such a mid anime
Nov 30, 2023 3:13 AM
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The pacing isn't the biggest problem. I read up to the latest manga and having "fillers" isn't even the issue either. It completely lacks direction and so many things don't make sense. At some point the author is just rolling a dice to see who should attend the next arc and then make it up as they go.

It started off well, but never lived up to it. Without mentioning spoilers the later parts are definitely worse.
Dec 2, 2023 12:11 PM

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till ep 9 still boring, don't understand so high score, such a mid anime
@dash-chan Good animation and it's shilled. Compare it to other VRMMORPGshit from this season.
Dec 3, 2023 3:13 AM

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Yes why would anyone want to end S1 at some other point and the pacing is perfect, any faster and it will turn into another ragna crimson.
@karrotStick Ragna Crimson is great if you just want fast pace action anime!
Dec 3, 2023 7:46 AM
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Another post complaining about pacing, withou even knowing what pacing is.

Your problem with the anime has nothing to do with pacing, you're complaining about the narrative purpouse and progession.

This anime is about the MC day to day grinding in his journey, not about he getting straight to some point.

There are literally no differences beetween episode 1 and 2 from the rest of season until here. Actually this is some of the most consistent animes of year, every episode delivers exacly what you got in the first two episodes.

Dec 3, 2023 3:43 PM

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Already 10 eps and Yeah its boring, they keep showing prolog every damn episode. Also each episode is just defeating some random monster without any meaning. He also solo player so we cant see any character development and coincidence all of his friends is god-tier player

It's like watching some dude grinding games.
Dec 4, 2023 10:04 PM
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@GangsterCat

You remind me of the One Piece haters who think slow pacing is bad.

This anime is lit, plain and simple.
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Dec 5, 2023 2:58 PM

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Youre only saying its slow cuz were watching it weekly.
Dont worry I feel the same, thats why im stopping after episode 10 and waiting for it to fully air haha

Some shows are better being watched weekly than others, for example Sousou no Frieren I feel is a show easier to watch weekly, while this one mostly ends on cliffhangers
Dec 5, 2023 2:59 PM

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You remind me of the One Piece haters who think slow pacing is bad.

This anime is lit, plain and simple.

To be fair One piece is pacing is actually terrible haha
Theres lots of fan edits cuz of it, Im enjoying One Pace much more
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You remind me of the One Piece haters who think slow pacing is bad.

This anime is lit, plain and simple.

To be fair One piece is pacing is actually terrible haha
Theres lots of fan edits cuz of it, Im enjoying One Pace much more
@Shidoteki In my opinion, One Pace is trash and is for fake fans.

One Piece > One Pace (x1000000000000)
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Pacing is not really the issue. Guess you need to watch this on batch then to appreciate it more. No need to force watching it weekly. Its not healthy
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Dec 7, 2023 3:44 AM

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Weird, bc I'm always flabbergasted when the episode is ending, like "what? it's already over?"
I don't see the pacing issues tbh
Dec 7, 2023 11:17 PM
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Who could have foreseen it coming.

Me. Me in my 3 episode rule review.

Omake and annoying companion dolls. One makes up for lazy production, another makes up for unimaginative writing to progress plot
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Weird, bc I'm always flabbergasted when the episode is ending, like "what? it's already over?"
I don't see the pacing issues tbh
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Weird, bc I'm always flabbergasted when the episode is ending, like "what? it's already over?"
I don't see the pacing issues tbh


My experience is the same. Each episode feels like its only 5 minutes. I rarely have an experience like that when watching anime.
So im guessing its a perception issue on their end, possibly because they just dont enjoy this kind of show or story. If their immersion is broken because they dont like it, then it makes sense that it would become tedious to watch.
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The pacing is awful
Jun 10, 2024 3:42 AM
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Yeaah i agree. The first ten or so episodes had great pacing but they went full Funimation later on where effectively 30% of every episode is a recap or a flashback like bluh we dont need these.
Jun 10, 2024 3:48 AM

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how many manga chapters are adapted per episode? kaiju 8 for example adapts 4 manga weekly chapters in most of its episode and the pacing of that anime is very good
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it's a dud

VRMMO is a premise that's simply worse than isekai/fantasy makes everything feel pointless and it feels like a "grind" just watching it

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