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Nov 24, 2022 6:32 PM
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Not sure why, but that simple fact is still hard for me to accept.
Nov 24, 2022 7:05 PM
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It´s easy to accept considering it looks like kuroko no basket in space with Sawanos OST. If they kept the old designs and classical music, now that would be wierd for our times.
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Nov 24, 2022 7:38 PM
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im hoping we get all 110 episodes, really enjoying it so far, i find it funny that this remake doesnt have next episode PVs an also the narrator isnt telling you who is gonna die next
Nov 25, 2022 1:14 AM
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MichaelJackson said:
It´s easy to accept considering it looks like kuroko no basket in space with Sawanos OST. If they kept the old designs and classical music, now that would be wierd for our times.
I didn't mean it in that way.

Rather, it always seemed that there will only be pre 2000s LOGH titles, and that no remake will ever be made years later.
Nov 25, 2022 8:51 AM
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It's being made since 2018. I found quite ironic the most elitist anime is being re-adapted into a modern anime.
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Nov 25, 2022 9:07 AM
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Azering said:
MichaelJackson said:
It´s easy to accept considering it looks like kuroko no basket in space with Sawanos OST. If they kept the old designs and classical music, now that would be wierd for our times.
I didn't mean it in that way.

Rather, it always seemed that there will only be pre 2000s LOGH titles, and that no remake will ever be made years later.

Not that weird considering that other franchises of its age and older are still going.
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Nov 25, 2022 9:16 AM
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"New LOGH anime is being made nowadays..."

...it's a remake tho, not a new story.
It fixes all the problems the LOTGH haters were complaining about - old style visuals (and don't let me start on the "4:3 hurst my brain" rhetoric) and slow pacing. It looks brighter and slicker (and it's 16:9), the tempo is faster...
But those guys simply pretend it doesn't exist.
Nov 25, 2022 11:20 AM
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alshu said:
"New LOGH anime is being made nowadays..."

...it's a remake tho, not a new story.
It fixes all the problems the LOTGH haters were complaining about - old style visuals (and don't let me start on the "4:3 hurst my brain" rhetoric) and slow pacing. It looks brighter and slicker (and it's 16:9), the tempo is faster...
But those guys simply pretend it doesn't exist.
i didn't think the OVA had slow pacing at all but rather the opposite. I remember a lot of the closing narrations where the narrator kinda like frantically reading through the script after realizing that they ran out of runtime and had to rush out but on the other hand doesn't do so in some other eps.
Nov 25, 2022 11:29 AM
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i didn't think the OVA

You are missing the point here. The same people who complained about the pacing of LOTGH, didn't mind duels in battle shounen which go for 10-15 episodes with massive recap scenes, flashbacks, flashback inside the flashbacks ect.

Point being those guys are just making up excuses...
Nov 25, 2022 11:47 AM

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alshu said:
TRC_Randy said:
i didn't think the OVA

You are missing the point here. The same people who complained about the pacing of LOTGH, didn't mind duels in battle shounen which go for 10-15 episodes with massive recap scenes, flashbacks, flashback inside the flashbacks ect.

Point being those guys are just making up excuses...
well didn't know such complainants exist.
Nov 25, 2022 12:05 PM

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NuUser said:
How do you know they are the same people?

Because I know them, like for years.

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how many battle shounen have you watched like that?

Dragon Ball, Naruto, One Piece...practically any battle shounen I have started except Shijou Saikyou no Deshi Kenichi and Yakitate!! Japan.

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didn't know such complainants exist

Really?
Nov 25, 2022 12:16 PM

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im watching the remake only and based on some of the old fans of the original OVA its very much the same story anyway with modern upgraded visuals
Nov 25, 2022 12:36 PM

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NuUser said:
]I also know them for years

I really doubt you know many of the people I know...so the rest of your reasoning is BS.
Nov 25, 2022 2:01 PM

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Nurguburu said:
It's being made since 2018. I found quite ironic the most elitist anime is being re-adapted into a modern anime.
The greatest irony is that LOGH doesn't boast itself to be "elite." It tells a rather straightforward story and the narrator explains basically everything (the remake actually removes this & makes you think more). The new version is great because it's a contemporary retelling that manages to tell the same story without being identical. It's more accessible in its execution without losing its intellectual merits or nuances.
Nov 25, 2022 3:04 PM

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And it's great so far!
I hope they'll complete the whole story.
Nov 25, 2022 8:02 PM

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Nov 25, 2022 9:28 PM

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alshu said:
NuUser said:
How do you know they are the same people?

Because I know them, like for years.

NuUser said:
how many battle shounen have you watched like that?

Dragon Ball, Naruto, One Piece...practically any battle shounen I have started except Shijou Saikyou no Deshi Kenichi and Yakitate!! Japan.

TRC_Randy said:
didn't know such complainants exist

Really?
yeah. I haven't really encountered any Lotgh haters who also watch 150+ eps battle shounen. In fact i thought i was THE only one who didn't like the OVA.
Nov 25, 2022 10:36 PM

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Zekkenshin said:
The greatest irony is that LOGH doesn't boast itself to be "elite." It tells a rather straightforward story and the narrator explains basically everything (the remake actually removes this & makes you think more). The new version is great because it's a contemporary retelling that manages to tell the same story without being identical. It's more accessible in its execution without losing its intellectual merits or nuances.


What about it makes it more accessible in its execution? I don't deny or dispute this, but just curious why some, like you here, would see it that way, since I haven't watched it myself and don't have any intention of doing so. Is it just the fact that it's apparently faster-paced so it suits modern sensibilities (at least of the modern majority) more? Or mainly that?
Nov 26, 2022 2:37 AM
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Pretty easy to accept. No one will bother with the original. Everyone will pick up the new one like Urusei Yatsura.

Hey, it's not a bad thing since it is bring fans to that franchise.
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Nov 26, 2022 2:44 AM

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TRC_Randy said:
I haven't really encountered any Lotgh haters who also watch 150+ eps battle shounen.

How many battle shounen fans you know who have seen LOTGH in its entirety, even liked it or at least think it's OK?


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like yours is not

I am pretty found of it.

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i have seen many battle shounen fans liking logh.

For example...?
Nov 26, 2022 3:01 AM

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WatchTillTandava said:
Zekkenshin said:
The greatest irony is that LOGH doesn't boast itself to be "elite." It tells a rather straightforward story and the narrator explains basically everything (the remake actually removes this & makes you think more). The new version is great because it's a contemporary retelling that manages to tell the same story without being identical. It's more accessible in its execution without losing its intellectual merits or nuances.


What about it makes it more accessible in its execution? I don't deny or dispute this, but just curious why some, like you here, would see it that way, since I haven't watched it myself and don't have any intention of doing so. Is it just the fact that it's apparently faster-paced so it suits modern sensibilities (at least of the modern majority) more? Or mainly that?

The most relevant difference, the one that will make it more appealing to a new audience, is just one: updated character designs. A lot of secondary characters in the original suffered from the same face syndrome and I like how the remake fixed that, but I agree with many people's complaints about some "bishounen" designs (two main characters in particular, Reinhard and Kircheis) and prefer the older version for them.

The remake is also supposed to be more faithful to the source material but I don't recall huge differences, and in terms of pacing it doesn't seem faster (which is rare for remakes nowadays).
Nov 26, 2022 6:17 AM

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NuUser said:
fmmatron and alcoholicide

But they are not extreme battle shounen fans at all. Sure they have watched the most of the popular ones, but the battle formula is not their main thing, they just watch everything except MOE and Nu Isekai.

NuUser said:
now you name me battle shounen fans who hate logh

Said the guy with the fake account who is hiding his actual MAL name...but most of the guys here - http://forum.animes-bg.com/
Nov 26, 2022 6:40 AM

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Old_School_Akira said:
Legend of the galactic heros would be a perfect anime if it was a yaoi

The venn diagram of people who like sci fi, politics, the military and 19th century european nobility gossip is already small enough. Adding yaoi into the mix won't do sales any good.
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Nov 26, 2022 7:02 AM

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NuUser said:
both of them enjoy all the formula

They surely enjoy it but aren't fanatic about it.

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mantron profile is literally saying "jump fanboy"

True, yet Jump releases way more stuff than battle shounen...even no such thing in FMmatron's favourites (unless we count TTGL partially as battle shounen). The closest he has is sport.

NuUser said:
what does that even mean? And how it's relevant to this discussion.

Not relevant, just ironic.

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where? It's a link to some Bulgarian anime site, not any user. @/me users, and if possible some MAL USER.

Those are the guys I know better for decades.
Nov 26, 2022 7:08 AM

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Nov 26, 2022 10:56 AM

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WatchTillTandava said:
Zekkenshin said:
The greatest irony is that LOGH doesn't boast itself to be "elite." It tells a rather straightforward story and the narrator explains basically everything (the remake actually removes this & makes you think more). The new version is great because it's a contemporary retelling that manages to tell the same story without being identical. It's more accessible in its execution without losing its intellectual merits or nuances.


What about it makes it more accessible in its execution? I don't deny or dispute this, but just curious why some, like you here, would see it that way, since I haven't watched it myself and don't have any intention of doing so. Is it just the fact that it's apparently faster-paced so it suits modern sensibilities (at least of the modern majority) more? Or mainly that?
The pace is about the same, as the episode count is coinciding with the original so far. The remake removes all filler and instead of being heavily inundated with narration, lets the story tell itself through character dialogues and events.

The original is like reading an extensive historical document whereas the remake feels like a novel based on historical events.
Nov 26, 2022 10:57 AM
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I was thinking about watching the original. Maybe I should just wait until this is done instead.
Nov 26, 2022 5:11 PM

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alshu said:
TRC_Randy said:
I haven't really encountered any Lotgh haters who also watch 150+ eps battle shounen.

How many battle shounen fans you know who have seen LOTGH in its entirety, even liked it or at least think it's OK?
none from the community so far but famous anitubers like Gigguk and TheAnimeMan are some of them.
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Theo1899 said:
Old_School_Akira said:
Legend of the galactic heros would be a perfect anime if it was a yaoi

The venn diagram of people who like sci fi, politics, the military and 19th century european nobility gossip is already small enough. Adding yaoi into the mix won't do sales any good.


I have seen alot of yaoi fan art on pixiv. Women love LOTGH.
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Nov 26, 2022 7:35 PM

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I was thinking about watching the original. Maybe I should just wait until this is done instead.


Watch the original. From character designs to OST and overall direction, it is better in almost every way compared to the new anime (I appreciate them trying to freshen things up with the new adaptation, but it's just the truth). Just about the only thing the new adaptation does better is portraying the large scale ship battles, but even those in the old one are quite fine for as old as it is imo. Plus who knows how long it will take for them to actually adapt the entire series. It's coming up on 5 years and they aren't even 1/2 yet (will be roughly ~40% done by the end of the this current season).

If you want to get a taste, you can try one or both of the "prequel" movies. Conquest (https://myanimelist.net/anime/3014/Ginga_Eiyuu_Densetsu__Waga_Yuku_wa_Hoshi_no_Taikai) is more like an exploratory pilot for the OVAs (apparently it is still canon, but its not in the main novels), while Overture (https://myanimelist.net/anime/3016/Ginga_Eiyuu_Densetsu__Arata_naru_Tatakai_no_Overture) is more story based and ties directly into the main OVAs as an expanded/improved version of the beginning episodes.
Nov 26, 2022 8:31 PM

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The original series has it's own aesthetic, however I wouldn't really blame anyone for wanting to watch the new series. I'll probably check the new series out as well at some point, I do however dislike some of the new character designs, like Oberstein's.

The original Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu is a bit of a rough product in terms of production values, I wouldn't really blame a 100 episode ova series for not having the best animation ever though. I do quite like the feel of the original series, feeling like a historical documentary, I don't quite know if the new series catches this feeling like the old one.
Nov 26, 2022 8:45 PM

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What's so strange about it? Watching it has been a blast. Great show, with phenomenal animation, and some of the best OSTs you can find in anime. I am sure it does not replace the original, but it's really good and deserves a good reboot that aims to closely adapt the novel. That's the whole point of it.

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What are the differences between this shit and the original OVA? Is it really just a remaster?

How about we start watching shows before calling them shit. Why is there so much prejudice against reboots? Especially of the highly regarded old shows? There's always room for improvement in any show. Perhaps reboots aren't historically the best, but this is LoGH and Production I.G. Lots of the OVA fans are watching it and are fairly happy with the remake.
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Why is there so much prejudice against reboots? Especially of the highly regarded old shows? There's always room for improvement in any show. Perhaps reboots aren't historically the best, but this is LoGH and Production I.G. Lots of the OVA fans are watching it and are fairly happy with the remake.


Personally, I just have no desire - and this is the way I've always consistently felt - to watch a reboot/remake/re-adaptation of a series or film I've already seen and am already very well pleased with the original iteration of. The only time I ever really consider watching remakes is if I haven't seen the original of something (which rarely happens nowadays - happened more as a kid before I had heard of many different series and films) or if the first version is so obviously botched and abysmal.
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WatchTillTandava said:
samashi20 said:
Why is there so much prejudice against reboots? Especially of the highly regarded old shows? There's always room for improvement in any show. Perhaps reboots aren't historically the best, but this is LoGH and Production I.G. Lots of the OVA fans are watching it and are fairly happy with the remake.


Personally, I just have no desire - and this is the way I've always consistently felt - to watch a reboot/remake/re-adaptation of a series or film I've already seen and am already very well pleased with the original iteration of. The only time I ever really consider watching remakes is if I haven't seen the original of something (which rarely happens nowadays - happened more as a kid before I had heard of many different series and films) or if the first version is so obviously botched and abysmal.

I totally understand that. You've got a point, but the person I replied to is implying that it's shit. That's why I felt compelled to reply. Plus it's a really good reboot that deserves some attention. But I get your point, why would anyone bother watching something they've already seen that has no added value to the plot?
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Nov 26, 2022 8:58 PM

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ZechTearz said:
samashi20 said:
How about we start watching shows before calling them shit.
You misconstrued it. Shit was supposed to substitute for stuff. Just casual speak. My post just below it reinforces that rather than contradicts me.
samashi20 said:
Why is there so much prejudice against reboots
I don't know because I don't do that.
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Lots of the OVA fans are watching it and are fairly happy with the remake.
I'm glad for them.

LMAO

Thanks for clarifying lol I got defensive because it's an amazing reboot.
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TRC_Randy said:
alshu said:

How many battle shounen fans you know who have seen LOTGH in its entirety, even liked it or at least think it's OK?
none from the community so far but famous anitubers like Gigguk and TheAnimeMan are some of them.

Similar to the cases with the MAL users NuUser used, Garnt and Joey are not exclusively battle shounen fans and watch almost everything (well, they used to watch, they do less anime nowadays especially Joey). There are even instances where they criticize certain battle shounens, also I have never seen them praising LOTGH that much. You can say that their choices are somehow balanced.
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Zekkenshin said:
WatchTillTandava said:


What about it makes it more accessible in its execution? I don't deny or dispute this, but just curious why some, like you here, would see it that way, since I haven't watched it myself and don't have any intention of doing so. Is it just the fact that it's apparently faster-paced so it suits modern sensibilities (at least of the modern majority) more? Or mainly that?
The pace is about the same, as the episode count is coinciding with the original so far. The remake removes all filler and instead of being heavily inundated with narration, lets the story tell itself through character dialogues and events.

The original is like reading an extensive historical document whereas the remake feels like a novel based on historical events.

i think the pacing may actually be slower in die neue these. we are at episode 47 right now where the ova was only on 43
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