| So after watching all 36 episodes of these first 3 seasons: This anime has no grey area. It is all black or white The "good people" are drawn handsomely/attractive and they are in shape. They have strong morals and will never coward at the sign of any danger, and will always stand for whats right The "bad people" are drawn ugly or always have a hostile face. Sometimes they are drawn as overweight. They are pure bastards who are just evil for being evil, with their evil laugh. They will coward at the first sign of danger. For an anime that likes to pride itself as a the best of the best, this is a glaring issue. This anime is barely about Yan vs Blonde, and its mostly about the "good" people vs the "bad" people |
oooo3333Jun 23, 2022 4:04 PM
| i dont have a problem with the "evil for being evil" thing, that happens in real life, most genocides in history have happened for no other reason than people indulging an finding pleasure in seeing people suffer, sure the ones who orquestrate such crimes, do it because they hate people but the ones who pull the trigger tend to do it simply because its fun for them also Reinhard isnt moral, the guy is fine with letting a planet being nuked for personal gain, as for the old OVA most people look normal but TBH even looking at many of Admirals from Reinhards army only Kircheis an Reunthal look particularly handsome but maybe thats just me sure Goldenbauns leader was an old man but most of his servants were young an hansome excet for a few old admirals its anime most people look like models, if that annoys you, then yeah watch the old OVA, only Reinhard is handsome in there |
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Ash_li said: The anime has such a massive cast of characters, making all of them grey would bloat the series and divert it from its real focus. So we have to accept that we are only seeing the aspects of the "bad guys" that the anime shows us. The show is more of a study of society on a larger scale which highlights different ideologies. It's not exactly a character study. Just like how when we see the actions of politicians in real life we are typically only familiar with their negative job related aspects. Funnily enough it reflects how many people see them. They are either a pure hero or the scum of the Earth depending on your political views. As for the character design, that's a fair point. But it's fine to allow artistic expression to exemplify or portray a character's personality. Making the characters you want people to like attractive is also basic psychology Edit: Also the purpose of the first quarter of the series is to point out the failings of each side's political system. They are both meant to be the most corrupt forms of their government. But once they are dealt with the show becomes much more complex. The Noble's rebellion in the Empire is rather black and white but the Military coup of the FPA is more nuanced. You can see pros and cons of each side. I believe this show could have been much better if it focused on one side at a time. Introducing 50 characters makes them bland IMO. If they did three seasons showing just Yang wen li's side, then three seasons only Reinhardt side, I think I would have enjoyed it. |
GrimorumInvokeMay 14, 2022 9:44 PM
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oooo3333 said: The "good people" are drawn handsomely/attractive and they are in shape. They have strong morals and will never coward at the sign of any danger, and will always stand for whats right The "bad people" are drawn ugly or always have a hostile face. Sometimes they are drawn as overweight. They are pure bastards who are just evil for being evil, with their evil laugh. They will coward at the first sign of danger. This was also a problem in the OVA but it was mitigated by the artstyle. The OVA didn't given all of the heroes prettyboy bishounen faces like the remake did. Many of the admirals don't look much different from the "bad guys", unlike in the remake. The bad guys still acted cartoonishly evil, though. |
| ya this is a die neue these thing, ova designs had more realistic faces. the show is still very much yang vs reinhard tho, the conflict just has a whole world surrounding it |
| "I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says. I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby". "She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other." |
oooo3333 said: You mean like in almost all fiction? What are we comparing to? And I mean out of stories with actual moral conflict and not just "everyone is happy" slice-of-life, etc.So after watching this episode 9 of season 3, I have now seen 33 episodes. This anime has no grey area. It is all black or white oooo3333 said: Isn't that only true of a few characters? Braunschweig, Flegel, Negroponte, a few minor characters.The "good people" are drawn handsomely/attractive and they are in shape. The "bad people" are drawn ugly or always have a hostile face. Sometimes they are drawn as overweight. Reinhard is pretty evil but is still allegedly the most attractive person in the cast. (I don't necessarily agree, but that is beside the point.) Maybe his face counts as hostile in your books. Meanwhile, I seriously doubt someone like Patrichev is handsome or in shape by most metrics. Kempff looks pretty average, but does he even count as good or evil? (Probably more on the evil side, all things considered. All the imperial admirals are to varying degrees.) Still, I think you're partially right. I would change some of the art decisions. I think I've briefly mentioned that too. Incidentally, some of the ugly people being ugly is literally based on their descriptions in the novel (e.g. the Alliance commissioner), so you can't blame the adaptation team entirely for that. It is also on the author. oooo3333 said: The good people being who, exactly? The ones in favor of liberal democracy and individual liberties? That's only a select few of the handsome ones.The "good people" have strong morals and will never coward at the sign of any danger, and will always stand for whats right The "bad people" are pure bastards who are just evil for being evil, with their evil laugh. They will coward at the first sign of danger. I really wouldn't count corrupt politicians as "evil for the sake of evil." Their evil is only a means to an end. Braunschweig nuking a planet out of spite counts though. I've always thought he is one of the worst characters in this, along with Flegel and a few others. Who has actually cowered from danger, by the way? The old imperial nobles? Well, yeah. And Negroponte when the call came in, I guess. |
TheDeedsOfMenJun 4, 2022 9:25 PM
| This is a story from the 80s, you'd rarely find gray areas in stories at that time. Also, the better the hairstyle the more plot armor the character has. |
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