Is the appeal of this show wearing off?

May 5, 2022 9:47 AM

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kriissyy12 said:
The draw of the show for me in the earlier episodes was Kongming adapting to the modern world, while using his own tactics from the past to help progress Eiko's music career. Now 6 episodes in the show is starting to go in a direction I'm not too keen on.

At this point Kongming has fully adapted to the world, almost being more adept to it than what Eiko is. Dare I say, he's pretty much your standard OP MC at this point, where none of the side characters can seem to function without him saving them all the time.

It's still a pretty good show with the animation, music and even Kongming being pretty good aspects of the show. It's just a bit disappointing the show is starting to feel like it's regressing, maybe that's an unpopular opinion though.

Just don’t watch it anymore if you feel it’s going downhill, simple. I still enjoy it and Kongming is very intelligent and a fast learner so of course he will adapt to the modern age relatively fast. Kongming still isn’t fully caught up with the modern technology so I don’t know what you’re talking about. If you don’t like the direction it’s going, just drop it and move on please. These types of threads are everywhere on MAL and will only attract hate so no point making them.

May 5, 2022 10:05 AM

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Just watched ep6 and couldnt stop smiling.
So no. Its still fun.

I'd dislike it if Kabetaijin took away from Eiko's screentime though.

May 5, 2022 10:17 AM

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he used Sun Tzu tactic in this episode, they already said it in this episode (deep down kabe want to go back rapping again so it predicted that kabe 100% will take the challenge). Also kongming use medicine to solve problem, same tactic he used in episode 3, he cured kabe to gain his confidence without his knowledge to make him has suggestion in his mind that his sickness is not relapse again bcs when he goes back to rap nothing happened to him and he finally can back to rap again. it's mind or psychological tactic, I'm not really sure if it can be used as example but I think placebo effect practice can be used as example, because eve though the practice is can not be proved in science somehow the patient still can feel cured or at least feel better because their mind telling them that their body is healed or the medicine is a real thing, though in kabe case he is 100% cured (I hope).

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May 5, 2022 10:18 AM

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Its just a single ep..a show with mindgames cant afford to present them in a every single ep,can they?Development is necessary.

May 5, 2022 10:19 AM

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AllMight1000 said:

kriissyy12 said:
The draw of the show for me in the earlier episodes was Kongming adapting to the modern world, while using his own tactics from the past to help progress Eiko's music career. Now 6 episodes in the show is starting to go in a direction I'm not too keen on.

At this point Kongming has fully adapted to the world, almost being more adept to it than what Eiko is. Dare I say, he's pretty much your standard OP MC at this point, where none of the side characters can seem to function without him saving them all the time.

It's still a pretty good show with the animation, music and even Kongming being pretty good aspects of the show. It's just a bit disappointing the show is starting to feel like it's regressing, maybe that's an unpopular opinion though.

Just don’t watch it anymore if you feel it’s going downhill, simple. I still enjoy it and Kongming is very intelligent and a fast learner so of course he will adapt to the modern age relatively fast. Kongming still isn’t fully caught up with the modern technology so I don’t know what you’re talking about. If you don’t like the direction it’s going, just drop it and move on please. These types of threads are everywhere on MAL and will only attract hate so no point making them.

I literally said it's still a good show Einstein, is reading that difficult?

May 5, 2022 10:50 AM

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kriissyy12 said:
The draw of the show for me in the earlier episodes was Kongming adapting to the modern world, while using his own tactics from the past to help progress Eiko's music career. Now 6 episodes in the show is starting to go in a direction I'm not too keen on.

At this point Kongming has fully adapted to the world, almost being more adept to it than what Eiko is. Dare I say, he's pretty much your standard OP MC at this point, where none of the side characters can seem to function without him saving them all the time.

It's still a pretty good show with the animation, music and even Kongming being pretty good aspects of the show. It's just a bit disappointing the show is starting to feel like it's regressing, maybe that's an unpopular opinion though.

It isn't regressing at all! It develops every episode in its own way!

May 5, 2022 10:51 AM

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Episode 6 was fucking amazing. Urge you to watch it if you’re feeling this way

May 5, 2022 11:06 AM

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kriissyy12 said:
The draw of the show for me in the earlier episodes was Kongming adapting to the modern world, while using his own tactics from the past to help progress Eiko's music career. Now 6 episodes in the show is starting to go in a direction I'm not too keen on.

At this point Kongming has fully adapted to the world, almost being more adept to it than what Eiko is. Dare I say, he's pretty much your standard OP MC at this point, where none of the side characters can seem to function without him saving them all the time.

It's still a pretty good show with the animation, music and even Kongming being pretty good aspects of the show. It's just a bit disappointing the show is starting to feel like it's regressing, maybe that's an unpopular opinion though.

no, kongming adapting to the new world was just complimentary, the main thing is his devotion to eiko and all the strategy stuff imo

May 5, 2022 11:30 AM

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kriissyy12 said:

AllMight1000 said:

Just don’t watch it anymore if you feel it’s going downhill, simple. I still enjoy it and Kongming is very intelligent and a fast learner so of course he will adapt to the modern age relatively fast. Kongming still isn’t fully caught up with the modern technology so I don’t know what you’re talking about. If you don’t like the direction it’s going, just drop it and move on please. These types of threads are everywhere on MAL and will only attract hate so no point making them.

I literally said it's still a good show Einstein, is reading that difficult?

You said it’s a pretty good show that’s declining 😂😂😂 Why are you complaining if it’s a good show Einstein? Anyways majority don’t agree with your take as you can see the average rating for this anime is high. It’s your subjective opinion but I don’t get why you made this thread because everyone will have their own opinion and are you expecting something out of saying this show is declining? .

May 5, 2022 11:48 AM

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AllMight1000 said:

kriissyy12 said:

I literally said it's still a good show Einstein, is reading that difficult?

You said it’s a pretty good show that’s declining 😂😂😂 Why are you complaining if it’s a good show Einstein? Anyways majority don’t agree with your take as you can see the average rating for this anime is high. It’s your subjective opinion but I don’t get why you made this thread because everyone will have their own opinion and are you expecting something out of saying this show is declining? .

I said 'regressing', regressing and declining are different things.

Majority probably don't agree, I was asking the people who may agree with me though.

May 5, 2022 11:59 AM

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AllMight1000 said:

kriissyy12 said:
The draw of the show for me in the earlier episodes was Kongming adapting to the modern world, while using his own tactics from the past to help progress Eiko's music career. Now 6 episodes in the show is starting to go in a direction I'm not too keen on.

At this point Kongming has fully adapted to the world, almost being more adept to it than what Eiko is. Dare I say, he's pretty much your standard OP MC at this point, where none of the side characters can seem to function without him saving them all the time.

It's still a pretty good show with the animation, music and even Kongming being pretty good aspects of the show. It's just a bit disappointing the show is starting to feel like it's regressing, maybe that's an unpopular opinion though.

Just don’t watch it anymore if you feel it’s going downhill, simple. I still enjoy it and Kongming is very intelligent and a fast learner so of course he will adapt to the modern age relatively fast. Kongming still isn’t fully caught up with the modern technology so I don’t know what you’re talking about. If you don’t like the direction it’s going, just drop it and move on please. These types of threads are everywhere on MAL and will only attract hate so no point making them.

Uhh... No. This thread is fine, they genuinely wanted to hear others opinions and you need to chill my guy😂. Obviously he'll drop the show if he doesn't wanna continue you don't need to tell him that. Nun wrong with this thread at all

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May 5, 2022 12:10 PM

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kriissyy12 said:
The draw of the show for me in the earlier episodes was Kongming adapting to the modern world, while using his own tactics from the past to help progress Eiko's music career. Now 6 episodes in the show is starting to go in a direction I'm not too keen on.

At this point Kongming has fully adapted to the world, almost being more adept to it than what Eiko is. Dare I say, he's pretty much your standard OP MC at this point, where none of the side characters can seem to function without him saving them all the time.

It's still a pretty good show with the animation, music and even Kongming being pretty good aspects of the show. It's just a bit disappointing the show is starting to feel like it's regressing, maybe that's an unpopular opinion though.

yeah i ahve no idea what your talkign about. the shows just been getting better

May 5, 2022 12:25 PM

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NO! Episode 6 was wonderful!

May 5, 2022 12:27 PM

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I still find the show interesting. It doesn't feel as if the author didn't know how to continue the story and just added Kabe's story to "fill the gap". Of course if I had to choose I'd say episode 1 was the best by far but that's likely due to the surprise factor and the fact that it has the highest budget. I also don't think Kongming is similar tu an OP MC because you can see that in his rap battle against Kabe he's not as good as him, but through his knowledge and syle manages to make it an even fight. I personally think of Eiko (and recently Kabe) as the protagonists and Kongming is playing the role of the mastermind behind their success, and I love the relationship he has with them.

May 5, 2022 12:30 PM

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kriissyy12 said:

AllMight1000 said:

You said it’s a pretty good show that’s declining 😂😂😂 Why are you complaining if it’s a good show Einstein? Anyways majority don’t agree with your take as you can see the average rating for this anime is high. It’s your subjective opinion but I don’t get why you made this thread because everyone will have their own opinion and are you expecting something out of saying this show is declining? .

I said 'regressing', regressing and declining are different things.

Majority probably don't agree, I was asking the people who may agree with me though.

Can you please enlighten me on the definition of this show regressing? Again there’s many threads like this on MAL, if your aim is to get responses from people who agree with you, it clearly didn’t work. Majority of responses on this thread are from people who still enjoy the show and don’t see any regression so that’s why I was saying these threads never work and don’t really achieve what you’re looking for.

May 5, 2022 12:36 PM

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Ej_Otaku_sama said:

AllMight1000 said:

Just don’t watch it anymore if you feel it’s going downhill, simple. I still enjoy it and Kongming is very intelligent and a fast learner so of course he will adapt to the modern age relatively fast. Kongming still isn’t fully caught up with the modern technology so I don’t know what you’re talking about. If you don’t like the direction it’s going, just drop it and move on please. These types of threads are everywhere on MAL and will only attract hate so no point making them.

Uhh... No. This thread is fine, they genuinely wanted to hear others opinions and you need to chill my guy😂. Obviously he'll drop the show if he doesn't wanna continue you don't need to tell him that. Nun wrong with this thread at all

I am chill, man. I can advise him to drop the show if I want to because he is out here complaining on MAL about a show regressing. No point complaining because every opinion is subjective, if I still enjoy the show, can I change his mind about this anime regressing? No is the answer to that. There’s so many of these threads on MAL and it’s always the same thing again and again. This thread doesn’t achieve anything and always gets responses like ‘No the show is doing great’, so my point is it’s just a waste of time making threads complaining about x anime because it’s just a breeding ground for hate and unnecessary trolls.

May 5, 2022 12:38 PM

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Not in the least. Its progressing in the same direction it has been since the 1st episode. And if he really was OP, he wouldn't NEED to add the rapper.

May 5, 2022 12:46 PM

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Because of this thread, I've learned that a lot of fans of this show can't seem to handle objective criticism. Seriously though, OP wasn't even hating on the show's regression. They were merely pointing it out.

But besides that, I agree that there's a slight drop in quality in the latest episodes compared to the earlier ones. I'm actually quite thankful that you took the time to write this out. I feel the same way, but I just couldn't find the right words and statements to express my thoughts properly. I'm really hoping to see more of Kongming's tactics—together with the inclusion of historical references—being utilize more in the future episodes. It's a good way to substantiate the flow of the storyline. Not to mention it provides more engagement to the history of the character. This type of approach would definitely get people curious regarding the real Kongming's background.

With that being said, I still think this is the 2nd best show that I'm currently watching this season.

May 5, 2022 2:53 PM

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Ep 6 was awesome as they introduced more genre of music with rap so it became more interesting in my opinion, and if they keep bringing and evaluating good music and genres then this show will be a banger so i don’t think it’s regressing at all

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May 5, 2022 5:23 PM

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I have to agree, this show isn't as great as it used to be, somehow I dislike Kabe Tajin and Kongming's rap on eps 5 sounds cringe for me.

May 5, 2022 9:55 PM

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kriissyy12 said:
Dare I say, he's pretty much your standard OP MC at this point, where none of the side characters can seem to function without him saving them all the time.

Is Koumei truly an OP MC as you said, OP? History-wise, he missed the chance to restore the country for his king, due to his over-wariness, the lack of available talented personel, and shorter lifespan than his opponent. Anime-wise, he just helped them to regain confidence in their talent. Business-wise, it's hard to find another Beatles, Pink Floyd, or hidden gems, since the cost of PR nowadays is too expensive, hence musical talent alone is not enough.

Even the character said himself in ep 4, that he alone couldn't do it. Without the cooperation of the bar owner, the media department of the loyal fan, or the support of the new character for his goal. Koumei is an important link, yet you disregarded their team effort.

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May 5, 2022 10:21 PM

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No way! I’m glad they got the fish out of water thing out of the way in eps 1 and now is all about Kongming building a great supporting cast around Eiko for her to shine brighter, can’t wait to watch this series every week on release day.

May 5, 2022 10:21 PM

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Btw…latest eps the rap battle was hot 🔥!

May 5, 2022 11:10 PM

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Yes, it went downhill so bad after eps 3. And yes the rap was cringe af

May 6, 2022 12:06 AM

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IMO it's still good, but all that J-RAP crap in ep6 made me cringe so hard. It's probably one of the worst kind of music out there.

May 6, 2022 12:40 AM

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Yeah I have no idea what you're talking about. Kongming is still making use of his strategies to help Eiko and hiring the rapper to complement her singing is one of them. Its still very entertaining and the rap battle in the latest episode was amazing. If anything, the show is getting better and better since we're learning about other characters as well and how Kongming interacts with them.

May 6, 2022 12:53 AM

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I wouldn’t worry too much, you might just be feeling this way because you’re watching it weekly, no story can put out bangers every time because if every episode is a banger then that becomes your new standard. Is just a needed episode to introduce a new character and this small goal works towards the bigger goal of performing at a bigger stage.

If we watched this anime in one sitting it would probably make sense but right now we don’t see the full picture. Finally if I were to agree with you I’d need you to tell me how the story could do a better job but you’d need to be mindful that what you want might not be what’s best for the story or what most people would want.

My only advice is enjoy the anime for what it is, not for what you would want it to be. Happiness is reality minus expectations :)

May 6, 2022 2:28 AM

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I think it is, I really don't like rap and was not interested in the new character which the entire episode focused on so I didn't care for episode 5, haven't even been interested enough to start episode 6 so far.

May 6, 2022 7:12 AM

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SgtBateMan said:

kriissyy12 said:
Dare I say, he's pretty much your standard OP MC at this point, where none of the side characters can seem to function without him saving them all the time.

Is Koumei truly an OP MC as you said, OP? History-wise, he missed the chance to restore the country for his king, due to his over-wariness, the lack of available talented personel, and shorter lifespan than his opponent. Anime-wise, he just helped them to regain confidence in their talent. Business-wise, it's hard to find another Beatles, Pink Floyd, or hidden gems, since the cost of PR nowadays is too expensive, hence musical talent alone is not enough.

Even the character said himself in ep 4, that he alone couldn't do it. Without the cooperation of the bar owner, the media department of the loyal fan, or the support of the new character for his goal. Koumei is an important link, yet you disregarded their team effort.

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May 6, 2022 7:31 AM

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Hasn’t lost its appeal to me fwiw. He’s a freakin genius so he adapted quickly. Do we really need episodes focused on him learning how to use modern things? Probably not. He’s up to speed with modern society so they are moving the story along.

May 6, 2022 10:30 AM

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I'm going to give the show the benefit of the doubt that now that the lackluster Kabetaijin plot is over, the show will go back to being entertaining.

May 6, 2022 10:53 PM

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That's on you bruh. You should've expected that at one point, he would definitely adapt to this new world. It would be ridiculous and stupid if he still acts stupid even after 12+ episodes. Especially that he is a tactician.
To me, the main selling point was how he keeps referencing Chinese history that is out of context. These were the parts that stand out to me because they are funny.

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May 7, 2022 12:58 AM

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kriissyy12 said:
The draw of the show for me in the earlier episodes was Kongming adapting to the modern world, while using his own tactics from the past to help progress Eiko's music career. Now 6 episodes in the show is starting to go in a direction I'm not too keen on.

At this point Kongming has fully adapted to the world, almost being more adept to it than what Eiko is. Dare I say, he's pretty much your standard OP MC at this point, where none of the side characters can seem to function without him saving them all the time.

It's still a pretty good show with the animation, music and even Kongming being pretty good aspects of the show. It's just a bit disappointing the show is starting to feel like it's regressing, maybe that's an unpopular opinion though.

Well the focus has shifted.

You gave devil is a part timer a 9, and that show had the exact same situation as this.

If someone is OP because of being smart, that's not really the stupid and bad kind of OP.

If a smart character, is also smartly written, the character instantly becomes great no matter what their motive or personality is.

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damn MAL forum post is a fierce one lmao

May 7, 2022 4:55 PM

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The appeal of this show isn’t falling off for me in the slightest if anything it is only growing more on me. I just love all the characters in this show so much.

May 7, 2022 7:42 PM

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Nah, quite the opposite. I enjoyed the first episode a lot, but I wasn’t entirely sold. Just finished through episode 6 and I was absolutely hooked!

May 10, 2022 1:26 AM

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Nope! It's still marvelous, and it's actually getting better.

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Just cuz u don't like it doesn't mean it's not good.

May 13, 2022 4:13 AM

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Episode 7 and it's getting better...

May 13, 2022 11:40 AM

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kriissyy12 said:
The draw of the show for me in the earlier episodes was Kongming adapting to the modern world, while using his own tactics from the past to help progress Eiko's music career. Now 6 episodes in the show is starting to go in a direction I'm not too keen on.

At this point Kongming has fully adapted to the world, almost being more adept to it than what Eiko is. Dare I say, he's pretty much your standard OP MC at this point, where none of the side characters can seem to function without him saving them all the time.

It's still a pretty good show with the animation, music and even Kongming being pretty good aspects of the show. It's just a bit disappointing the show is starting to feel like it's regressing, maybe that's an unpopular opinion though.

I liked the first couple of episodes, but I've dropped it since then as I don't think the goal of making some girl a famous singer is worthy of the talents of one of history's great strategists. I agree the show is well-made, it's just not for me.

May 13, 2022 12:37 PM

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Did not enjoy it as much when the Rappers appeared, preferred just Eiko singing for now.
Did they run out of ideas so soon as to have to add Rappers??
Whether they ever compliment Eiko remains to be seen

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May 14, 2022 8:36 PM

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No.

Only kinda bad episode so far was 4, and that was because the drama it was centered on relied so much in the classical old mold "misunderstandings" trope between close friends who refuse to sit to talk things over and clear intentions behind actions.

Rappers was a duology arc, you need to watch both episodes sequencially to keep that full feel that the first 4 episodic ones gave.

Epi 7 is great.

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May 14, 2022 11:35 PM

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kriissyy12 said:
The draw of the show for me in the earlier episodes was Kongming adapting to the modern world, while using his own tactics from the past to help progress Eiko's music career. Now 6 episodes in the show is starting to go in a direction I'm not too keen on.

At this point Kongming has fully adapted to the world, almost being more adept to it than what Eiko is. Dare I say, he's pretty much your standard OP MC at this point, where none of the side characters can seem to function without him saving them all the time.

It's still a pretty good show with the animation, music and even Kongming being pretty good aspects of the show. It's just a bit disappointing the show is starting to feel like it's regressing, maybe that's an unpopular opinion though.

kong ming still use his tactics and always using it.

the problem is from you, a shonen / harem guy.

Dec 6, 2022 12:03 AM

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kriissyy12 said:

AllMight1000 said:

You said it’s a pretty good show that’s declining 😂😂😂 Why are you complaining if it’s a good show Einstein? Anyways majority don’t agree with your take as you can see the average rating for this anime is high. It’s your subjective opinion but I don’t get why you made this thread because everyone will have their own opinion and are you expecting something out of saying this show is declining? .

I said 'regressing', regressing and declining are different things.

Majority probably don't agree, I was asking the people who may agree with me though.

They still mean the same thing at it's core. Decline is literally listed as a synonym for regress. So really dude wasn't wrong.

Jan 21, 2023 5:14 PM

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I finished the show late 2022 at some point and came back here to see if anyone expressed my same views. Overall I really enjoyed this show. It surprised me. What I didn't like so much was the shift in direction when they introduced the black-haired girl in the masked rival band. From the episode where they introduced her, the show hung on to their drama a bit too much as it proceeded to be the important climax of the show. I would have preferred if it was more comedy through and through featuring Konming's absurd, yet intelligent methods of solving the heroine's problems. I liked that the rapper's drama episodes wrapped up pretty fast and then he became a part of the show. It's not that I'm adverse to any drama or emotional stuff at all, I just would have preferred that moreso than the style it was in the last few episodes.

Jan 21, 2023 5:23 PM

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I never really felt that way, but I was tired of that fucking song after hearing it for the the 3rd time or 4th time.

If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that.

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