| I am currently on the Falcon of the millennium empire arc and i kinda agree with you. Its still very good imo especially after Guts got the berserker armor. And i found conviction arc to be overall better than the golden age arc. |
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| The art was good but art alone can't carry a story. Golden Age at least had hope and likeable characters. Then all of the likeable characters die, and you're just following Guts (who has become an unlikeable asshole) wandering around this hopeless world and there isn't really any plot advancement happening. 300 chapters and they never took out any of the godhand. 300 chapters and 0 out of the 5 big bads killed. Also, the chapter releases became extremely sporadic during the last decade, so I completely forgot about it for a long while. |
bluefire35 said: For the manga i don't think so but for the 2016 anime yes for sure,sorry if my comment is stupid but berserk 2016 is awful. Saying that 'Berserk 2016 is awful' is like saying 'fire is hot' |
"I had a dream. Under the full moon, I was a child embraced by nostalgic warmth. But when I wake from the dream, only a vague sense of longing remains...that, too, will soon disappear with a single tear like mountain dew" |
bluefire35 said: Like i said my comment is stupid and i am doing this for the fun and lols dude not to get to serious. Well i meant it as a joke too, also your comment isn't stupid, its a fact. |
"I had a dream. Under the full moon, I was a child embraced by nostalgic warmth. But when I wake from the dream, only a vague sense of longing remains...that, too, will soon disappear with a single tear like mountain dew" |
| Only people who think like kids when it comes to analysing a story think that Berserk fell off after the Golden Age arc....it's a very small minority. |
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| Berserk didn't "fell off" after Golden Age. Sure, Golden Age arc is it's best arc - but then Golden Age arc is one of the best arc in all of animanga. All the other arcs of Berserk are amazing as well and still better than most of the arc in other anime that are considered to be the best. |
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90% of Berserk fans' YOU interacted with personally...not the fandom as a whole. Similar people are attracted to each other...If I say "I love One Piece"..some people with the same opinion will be open to have an interaction with me since we share this passion for Oda's manga.... Maybe you just were much closer to the minority's interactions for some reason... |
DoruCatanaJul 27, 2021 10:50 PM
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BlackCrow1 said: @DoruCatana, but...............I think that Berserk is better after Golden Age and almost every Berserk fan disagrees. Until today that is Well...on a personal level, I also like Berserk much more after the Golden Age arc...but when it comes to the writing specifically...it can be said that the Golden Age arc is the best in that aspect...and a lot of people can make a case for Berserk being at it's peak during the Golden Age for that reason...even if the other arcs are also very well written. My favourite one is The Falcon of the Millenium Empire but I reacted more emotional during the Golden Age arc for some very specific parts and if that was the case for more people, not just me, you have a source for the opinion that the Golden Age arc is the best...that it "fell off" after it...it's not just a personal opinion, but a failure when it comes to analysing the story and the writing of it... So...Maybe you just were much closer to the minority's interactions for some reason...part2 |
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BlackCrow1 said: @DoruCatana, So...Maybe you just were much closer to the minority's interactions for some reason...part 2 from my end. I can do this all day. I agree too. The Falcon of the Millenium Empire is my favourite arc as well. Guts suppressing his inner beast within the Berserker armor, Griffith taking down Ganishka's empire to form Falconia. I'd say in terms of writing, this is peak Berserk. The Golden Age to me felt like a setup for the eclipse. Ofc, the eclipse was the greatest plot twist in fiction but that doesn't justify it just being the arc that defines why Guts does what he does and why he hates Femto as opposed to the arc 'where Berserk fell off' Dude we literally are on the same side, I want to question people who do think that Berserk fell after Golden Age Well...never seen the good cop questioning the bad cop or vice versa...especially when there are so many people who should be interrogated for the bad takes they have on this series, especially the ones who think that "it fell off after the Golden age" which is a great offence to the writing of this story...so... I guess I'm not part of the people you want to question...just someone from another department...π§ |
DoruCatanaJul 27, 2021 11:10 PM
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| Because the character writings and developments of Guts and Griffith in Golden Age are in different class. I am also not a biggest fan of Golden Age (and I am a fan of Schierke lol), but I acknowledged that Guts and Griffith sure set a high standard in character writing in anime/manga. |
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| implying that golden age was better than dark swordsman. Berserk was very good till fantasia, there are some theories that miura faked his death because he got bored of berserk and ran out of ideas |
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Catalano said: implying that golden age was better than dark swordsman. Berserk was very good till fantasia, there are some theories that miura faked his death because he got bored of berserk and ran out of ideas That's just retarded!! Something...something....character limit |
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| In terms of just the manga, I disagree. I really like the Golden Age arc but I think the others afterwards are also really good and I tend to think of the Conviction arc whenever I hear the name Berserk because I think it embodies the ideas of Berserk really well and is probably the darkest arc |
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| I don't really think any arc is better than one another cause honestly I love almost every arc of Berserk equally, almost cause tho the lost children arc was good it didn't really hold up to Berserk standards but yeah I agree in disagreeing with people saying Berserk wasn't as good after the Golden Age, I really think its just a great package all around but people's opinions are their opinions, can't do much if that's how they feel about it |
| Not really. Things just went a different direction, Millenium arc is great in its way IMO |
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reilzy said: DoruCatana said: Only people who think like kids when it comes to analysing a story think that Berserk fell off after the Golden Age arc....it's a very small minority. wow bro ur such a grown up i wish i was like you You can't think that a series is great based on just one arc...and you need to feel like you're part of that category of people(at least in some part...) to react in this way to what I said... |
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| Golden Age was just the stage to set Berserk in and did a wonderful job of doing so. Conviction brought us the reunification of Cascas and Guts, finally. Millennium Falcon Arc brought us Berserk Armor Guts and the awesome fight with Grunbeld, the Hill of Swords fight with Zodd, Guts vs Slan and the hint we got of Skull Knight's identity, Guts finding newfound company for his journey so things aren't looking as bleak for him. So many awesome things in this arc alone. |
| Don't most people think of the Black Swordsman arc as the worst one? That's the only arc before Golden Age so it'd be weird if many people think the most well-received manga has only one good arc. Overall though, I'm looking forward to the arcs after the Golden Age. I've always been fascinated grimdark fantasies though I suppose most people prefer Shakespeare-esque tales. |
reilzy said: DoruCatana said: You can't think that a series is great based on just one arc...and you need to feel like you're part of that category of people(at least in some part...) to react in this way to what I said... The manga starts turning bad when isidoro and schierke show up. There are like 15 unfunny cringe jokes in every chapter I cant tolerate them anymore im currently in chapter 310 and i literally want to drop the manga. Unlike the golden age arc i dont care about a single other character than Guts and Casca. The conviction arc is alright but its still a step down from golden age. I also dont see the need to introduce magic, it was better before. Sorry for my english From what you said, this is a matter of personal tastes and preferences regarding the genre of storytelling the story belongs to and this doesn't necessarily translates into objectively bad storytelling overall. Some people actually like the specific things you dislike about the story. It's something subjective and differs from person to person!! It would be much better, proper and true to say that you don't like the direction the story went after The Golden Age, that the humour it's not your cup of tea and you don't like it and that you would rather prefer a low fantasy worldbuilding for this story and then name your reasons...This is fine...and it makes for a much better, interesting and productive discussion!! |
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removed-user said: Why do people say Berserk fell off after Golden Age? I think Conviction, Falcon of the millennium empire and Fantasia are way better than Golden Age, be it the plot, the character development or the art. Golden Age was definitely good, the eclipse was fire but the remaining arcs kinda develop Guts better as a character, have deeper villains (come on Griffith wasn't the villain of Golden Age) and more intense and calm moments. Maybe that's why it's called "Golden Age" because everything after it is likely just down hill. lol So it would be fitting for it to be called that. |
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