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Aug 23, 2020 4:59 PM
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Finally, first gym leader, and is Bea/Saito <3
Aug 23, 2020 5:10 PM
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It was nice to see Saito in all her THICCness. I think they portrayed her character perfectly.

It's about time Ash lost and got a hard taste of reality that no matter how Hot of a streak you are on it only takes one battle, game, event, bad move, etc to end that streak. While I do not think Ash got a big head he did tend to get slightly cocky. It was nice to see how Angry he got when Saito disrespected Corni. I think that will only fuel his fire more (along with losing) to train up his pokemon and eventually beat Saito.

Looking forward to next week's Pikachu episode.
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Aug 23, 2020 6:59 PM
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this has to be like the first time the actual Karate Master from the Saffron Dojo is part of the main show with no sign of Terri and Master Hamm in sight

looks like Bea has more abs here than in Twilight Wings too lol
Aug 23, 2020 7:33 PM
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Anyone else thought riolu was gana evolve? lol for plot reasons

ashes streak = dead , time to face the truth. there will always be someone better but it was kīnda his fault. he had better options to fight bea like his dragonite, or pikachu. maybe even gengar. gggg
Aug 23, 2020 7:42 PM
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I think Ash got kinda cocky here by using his newest Pokemon against a Gym Leader. Like, Pikachu, Dragonite and Gengar would have literally rekt Bea lol But on the bright side, this will help both Riolu and Farfetch'd as motivation for a future rematch :P

So far Riolu is having a similar combat experience to Infernape, that fire monkey we all loved. Now I'm looking forward to see how far the little one can go :P
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Aug 23, 2020 7:59 PM
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Ash's defeat was expected for a long time. It was still a great battle, we will see how he deals with it in future episodes. Also Bea is great <3.

Next week, the bait XD...
Aug 23, 2020 8:31 PM
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Seems like Bea is the female version of Paul, this was like when he and Paul battled at Lake Acuity and his team got curb stomped completely.
Aug 23, 2020 8:56 PM
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is there anybody who thought Satoshi will win today?
I mean they set the flags early on with the "undefeated streak" talk. And his opponent also had a place in the op, so she was unlikely to be a one episode appearance. So yeah, it was obvious.
Aug 23, 2020 9:30 PM
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This episode suck, Satoshi did not battle ok, he was just dumb
Aug 24, 2020 1:36 AM
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Is ash gone mad? Is he thinks it as a practice match? He already has dragonite and gangar. I think he forgot them. Battling with a fighting type. He should have used Gangar which has a great advantage against fighting type because it is a ghost type. Whatever it's like a new raival arraives like all generation. I hope the story travels crazier hereafter.
Aug 24, 2020 1:50 AM

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Lol Bea beat Ash's ass with ez, I feel like Riolu might evolve soon.

Nice Go got a Hitmonchan.
Aug 24, 2020 2:13 AM

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Probably the best episode of PM2019 so far, good to see they're going out with sadder moments, just like SM and mostly XYZ's losses
Aug 24, 2020 3:55 AM
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Ngl, this episode was really underwhelming. Dragonite and Gengar would have been way better choices. I swear every fight since the Electrode Vs Pikachu fight have been underwhelming.
Aug 24, 2020 4:34 AM
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Cool to see Bea this time, and obviously she defeated Ash... he was battling with under evolved pokemon that's not surprising.
Aug 24, 2020 4:53 AM

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i figure satoshi would lose, i mean the fact that Saito is a gym leader and one of the newest ones not to mention fighting a brand new pokemon from the newest gen of course he would but still this was a great ep and nice to see satoshi get his wake up call cause he was getting full of himself

but yeah i think he'll end up battling her again when he gets lucario and its something im looking forward to
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Aug 24, 2020 5:56 AM
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The best episode so far!
The battle was awesome but if ash wants to win he must use his Dragonite and Gangar
Aug 24, 2020 1:32 PM

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i agree with the others, Kamonegi fight was kinda pointless lol
not to mention, if Corni lost to the point Saito said she is "too soft", there was little chance the Riolu could do much better then the mega evolved Lucario with years of training

oh well, at least 1 of the few characters that i liked from Twilight Wings will have some screen time :D i wonder if Rurina/Nessa will appear too
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Aug 24, 2020 7:02 PM

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Is no one gonna mention the OSTs this time around? It somehow felt too good for Pokemon.
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Aug 24, 2020 8:16 PM

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Daaamn. Bea wrecked Ash's ass. Better to give Ash good rivals to fight, then just having him win all the time.

Huh, I wondered a few weeks back, if Go is catching all Pokemon, that he'd need to get a Pikachu, and welp. Guess we're getting our answer next week.
Aug 25, 2020 5:43 PM

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Wasted episode and potential. Ash had better pokemon and we didn't even saw Goh's battle
Sep 1, 2020 10:01 PM

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SO apparently Galarian trainers and Gym leaders are better than everyone else. Corni is soft? Lance losing to Dande? Galarian Karate? If Ash/Satoshi was starting fresh in the Galarian region I would understand, but this season includes every region and it's making everyone else seem weak by comparison.

Of course Ash/Satoshi was going to lose! All the tropes were there. (cocky, "undefeated streak", not using his best type Pokemon, not battling like himself fully). But he is a pokemon league champion, so of course he would have a great run so far. But let's forget all that for the sake of making the new region full of beasts.

Anyway, Ash/Satoshi is the only protagonist that never seems to progress. How can you be a pokemon master if you don't remember how a Hawlucha battles? You had one lol. I would have liked to see Go's battle as well.
Sep 10, 2020 7:23 PM

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Bea's in the show. Finally. I've literally been waiting for this since they announced her design for the games. Looks like they made her more of a rival rather than a gym leader that Ash beats in 2 episodes and we never see again. Definitely a good sign and I expect to see her show up at least a few more times in the future.

Hopefully she stays strong and relevant all the way to the endgame. Easily one of my favorite characters in the show right now.
Sep 14, 2020 4:44 PM

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Despite being the strongest of Alola doesn't make you the best of the world. Especially in Galar the trainers are extra formiddable according to lore.

This is the first time in the ENTIRE series the opposing character doesn't even have an opinion on Ash, only that his technique is lacking. She disrespected Corrina by telling him how she was too soft, too weak.

Obviously that got Ash worked up, he wanted to humble that behaviour.

But Goddamn, this was a one sided massacre, I haven't seen anything like this EVER in my 20+ years watching this series. Someone who is just better then you, the opposing pokémon, even a hawlucha Ash is so familliar with was just too much. Bea's dominance in character was popping, unscatched by Ash's techniques...

This is the first time in the series I actually wanted a battle to end despite the amazing animations. Ash was getting mentally tortured over there. The writing, Ash's fear of getting close and eventually just shouting out random orders.

10/10 episode and definitely the best of pokémon journeys, but lately this anime is really getting into it. The continuation is just generally remarkable, and Go may well be Ash's best companion ever after the 37th episode, his sense of hedonism and individuality is top tier.
Dec 9, 2020 7:06 AM
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I was really expecting Riolu to evolve into a Lucario at that time, but I guess it didn't happen at all. Farfetch'd and Riolu did a good job nonetheless.
Dec 30, 2020 11:56 PM

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I don't really get the logic of having Ash tie with Bea; she's not even that strong considering that she's merely a Gym Leader and Ash had stronger Pokemon to use that he chose not to for his own reasons. Riolu hogging the biggest part of the battle was super annoying but that word describes the aura jackals in general lol.
Oct 11, 2021 10:33 AM

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knew that ash will lose soon in a way or another, it's only choice of writing to how and to who, and they did it great against bea.

bea sure likeable character, though her opinions is radical, she was portrayed fine.

thought all along the episode riolu going to evolve, probably in the rematch?
Jan 25, 2022 2:30 AM

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ash needed this loss, winning everything did get to his head I guess lol
May 28, 2022 6:28 PM
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So Ash got his first loss of the season. Though, if he had used Dragonite I feel like he would've won. He never seems to choose the best Pokemon for the situation. He just picks whatever of his fancy of the day is. Even so, it's not like he was set all that far back.

Also, I didn't care much for Bea's attitude in this. Don't be so haughty when you're such a pushover in the game. I almost wanna start up Shield and rematch her out of spite.
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This was just training for Riolu and Farfetch'd. If he had taken it seriously he could have used Dragonite and Gengar.
Jun 27, 2023 9:33 AM
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Lmao I love how Ash commanded Riolu to "hang in there" like it was a move.

Fun battle but we've seen Ash think way more outside of the box, that said well played by Bea.
Also I definitely expected Riolu to evolve there, pretty sure it's gonna happen soon though.

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