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Oct 15, 2019 3:56 PM
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I don't know if people have realized this fact yet..but that goddamn low level writer Tow Ubukata is back at it again for season 3, after he single handedly destroyed the whole franchsise with, what he called, a screenplay for Season 2. The trailer for season 3 seems to have some of his "ideas" from season 2 in it already. So the question I'm asking myself now is: WHY THE F*** DID THEY BRING HIM BACK? Why didn't you just put Makoto Fukami and Ryo Yoshigami in charge? Fukami did his thing with the manga, the movie and two of those case files. Yoshigama did the other case file and also did a descent job although hes pretty new to the scene. So why not at least put only those two skilled (!!) writers in charge if you can' t get the original creator to do it. Why you have to pay an extra, unneccessary salary to a f***ing bum who can't write for sh**? I mean that doesn't make any sense at all. You wanna keep your costs low with the maximum of outcome right? Paying extra for LITERALLY nothing, is bad buissnes.
Oct 15, 2019 8:47 PM
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Did you create a MAL account just to say this? Wow
Oct 15, 2019 9:23 PM
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inb4 this thread gets locked



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Oct 15, 2019 10:45 PM
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Worthless thread by whiny individual, name a better combo.
Oct 15, 2019 10:48 PM
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err he written Mardock Scramble that is very good though so i will give him another chance and i heard he is doing great being the writer of Fafner mecha anime
Oct 16, 2019 3:27 AM
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at least he had the passion to create a new account and give his 2 cents
Oct 16, 2019 12:28 PM
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You can call me an idiot or anything but the second season wasn't that bad
Oct 17, 2019 1:31 AM
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There are other writers working in this series and they may be more skilled. Otherwise, people can improve over time. So there is no reasons to freak out in my opinion. Have a peaceful day.
Oct 17, 2019 3:51 AM
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Lol @ people trying to ignore the obvious facts.

OP is dead right, Psycho Pass' writing is what made the first season and ruined the second, and the writer of the third season is the same writer as the second. I am very confident this show's biggest problem will be terrible writing.
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Oct 17, 2019 3:46 PM
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agree^ not sure why everyone else is ignoring that fact that season one was undeniably better than season 2 purely because of the writing and pacing
Oct 17, 2019 8:24 PM
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Briareoss said:
I don't know if people have realized this fact yet..but that goddamn low level writer Tow Ubukata is back at it again for season 3, after he single handedly destroyed the whole franchsise with, what he called, a screenplay for Season 2. The trailer for season 3 seems to have some of his "ideas" from season 2 in it already. So the question I'm asking myself now is: WHY THE F*** DID THEY BRING HIM BACK? Why didn't you just put Makoto Fukami and Ryo Yoshigami in charge? Fukami did his thing with the manga, the movie and two of those case files. Yoshigama did the other case file and also did a descent job although hes pretty new to the scene. So why not at least put only those two skilled (!!) writers in charge if you can' t get the original creator to do it. Why you have to pay an extra, unneccessary salary to a f***ing bum who can't write for sh**? I mean that doesn't make any sense at all. You wanna keep your costs low with the maximum of outcome right? Paying extra for LITERALLY nothing, is bad buissnes.
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Lol @ people trying to ignore the obvious facts.

OP is dead right, Psycho Pass' writing is what made the first season and ruined the second, and the writer of the third season is the same writer as the second. I am very confident this show's biggest problem will be terrible writing.
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agree^ not sure why everyone else is ignoring that fact that season one was undeniably better than season 2 purely because of the writing and pacing
I'm just gonna leave this here to make up for you guys' lack of research and hastiness over this matter

It's also worth remembering that season 2 was giant mess in every way since probably the day one of planning stage. This time however, he is working at the original studio with Shiotani, the original director; and Fukami, the guy who wrote season 1 with Urobucher. The season has also been planned for a long time. So I think it's unlikely it will be worse than season 2.

Also, it's not entirely new cast. Akane, Ginoza, Kogami, his chick from the third SS movie, Sugou and Yayoi are all confirmed to be in the show and that makes me believe they will have more focus in the second half when the main plot kicks in after some plot twist or something, while the first half will focus on the stuff we are seeing in the PV. But yeah, there seems to be a lot of new characters which might be good because of the reasons you mentioned. (Quite like their designs btw.)

We'll see how it goes. I'm hoping it will help the franchise get up on its feet again. From what I heard SS movies have been good first step in that. This season might be the last chance for the series depending on how it goes. I'm also not putting all my hype into this but I am choosing to stay optimistic.
Oct 17, 2019 8:39 PM

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He actually can write really good shit, Fafner exodus is one of the best mecha/sci fi anime in the past decade, PP2 was a special disaster and I think people forget that Gen urabuchi still worked on, maybe it would of been as bad with him actually writing the script outright but shit like frakenstein's monster as the main antagonist was still gonna be in there.

Not saying 3 is suddenly gonna be amazing, but its got way more going for it as a series than 2 which was pretty much doomed from the get go.
JizzyHitlerOct 17, 2019 9:41 PM

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Oct 17, 2019 10:41 PM

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It's also worth remembering that season 2 was giant mess in every way since probably the day one of planning stage. This time however, he is working at the original studio with Shiotani, the original director; and Fukami, the guy who wrote season 1 with Urobucher. The season has also been planned for a long time. So I think it's unlikely it will be worse than season 2.

Also, it's not entirely new cast. Akane, Ginoza, Kogami, his chick from the third SS movie, Sugou and Yayoi are all confirmed to be in the show and that makes me believe they will have more focus in the second half when the main plot kicks in after some plot twist or something, while the first half will focus on the stuff we are seeing in the PV. But yeah, there seems to be a lot of new characters which might be good because of the reasons you mentioned. (Quite like their designs btw.)

We'll see how it goes. I'm hoping it will help the franchise get up on its feet again. From what I heard SS movies have been good first step in that. This season might be the last chance for the series depending on how it goes. I'm also not putting all my hype into this but I am choosing to stay optimistic.
I never said it would be as bad as season 2, but the writing will still be bad, like I said, it's biggest problem will be the writing, everyone is aware of the terrible development schedule of S2, but that's not my concern, my concern is the writing. Will I be proven wrong? Probably not. Do I want to be proven wrong? Yes.
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Oct 18, 2019 9:10 AM
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Tokoya said:
I never said it would be as bad as season 2, but the writing will still be bad, like I said, it's biggest problem will be the writing, everyone is aware of the terrible development schedule of S2, but that's not my concern, my concern is the writing. Will I be proven wrong? Probably not. Do I want to be proven wrong? Yes.
All I'm saying is that the man was doomed to fail during S2, this time he has the necessary tools needed to make up for S2. Plus from what I hear, he's pretty much become a very good writer based off of what he did with Fafnir
Oct 19, 2019 3:49 PM

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Cookies said:
I never said it would be as bad as season 2, but the writing will still be bad, like I said, it's biggest problem will be the writing, everyone is aware of the terrible development schedule of S2, but that's not my concern, my concern is the writing. Will I be proven wrong? Probably not. Do I want to be proven wrong? Yes.
All I'm saying is that the man was doomed to fail during S2, this time he has the necessary tools needed to make up for S2. Plus from what I hear, he's pretty much become a very good writer based off of what he did with Fafnir
I sure do hope you're right, but if S3 is bad I am absolutely writing him off lol.
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Oct 20, 2019 6:41 AM
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Cookies said:
Tokoya said:
All I'm saying is that the man was doomed to fail during S2, this time he has the necessary tools needed to make up for S2. Plus from what I hear, he's pretty much become a very good writer based off of what he did with Fafnir
I sure do hope you're right, but if S3 is bad I am absolutely writing him off lol.
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Oct 21, 2019 5:50 AM

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Cookies said:
I never said it would be as bad as season 2, but the writing will still be bad, like I said, it's biggest problem will be the writing, everyone is aware of the terrible development schedule of S2, but that's not my concern, my concern is the writing. Will I be proven wrong? Probably not. Do I want to be proven wrong? Yes.
All I'm saying is that the man was doomed to fail during S2, this time he has the necessary tools needed to make up for S2. Plus from what I hear, he's pretty much become a very good writer based off of what he did with Fafnir
just adding quick correction, Fafner and Fafnir are 2 VERY different shows. Fafner, the one he wrote for, is an existential post-apocalyptic mecha series. Fafnir is a harem light novel.

Just trying to avoid someone going, ok lets see what everyone is saying redeems him as a writer and then seeing the most low brow shit.
JizzyHitlerOct 21, 2019 5:59 AM

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Oct 21, 2019 3:18 PM
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You have to remember, Season 2 was written with the prospect of the movie already being in production. Season 2 had no room to change the world of Psycho-Pass in a drastic manner due to the plot of the movie already being layed out. Psycho-Pass 2 couldnt do too much to change the status quo. They couldnt bring back Kougami because his role was already written in the movie. They couldnt flesh out any new characters who survived the season because nobody could do anything that might affect the moviies plot.

He's written some good stuff before, so I have faith that Season 3 will at least be decent.
Oct 24, 2019 2:22 PM
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JizzyHitler said:
Tokoya said:
All I'm saying is that the man was doomed to fail during S2, this time he has the necessary tools needed to make up for S2. Plus from what I hear, he's pretty much become a very good writer based off of what he did with Fafnir
just adding quick correction, Fafner and Fafnir are 2 VERY different shows. Fafner, the one he wrote for, is an existential post-apocalyptic mecha series. Fafnir is a harem light novel.

Just trying to avoid someone going, ok lets see what everyone is saying redeems him as a writer and then seeing the most low brow shit.
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Oct 24, 2019 5:22 PM
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leev said:
You can call me an idiot or anything but the second season wasn't that bad
I mean, it was kind of pointless and disappointing, but it was ok, not as good as Psycho Pass, wich is awesome, but I don't regret watching it, I enjoyed it despite it's problems.
Oct 24, 2019 9:10 PM
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Isn't Makoto Fukami involved in Psycho-Pass 3? It says that in his MAL profile.
Oct 25, 2019 5:23 AM
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Tokoya said:
I never said it would be as bad as season 2, but the writing will still be bad, like I said, it's biggest problem will be the writing, everyone is aware of the terrible development schedule of S2, but that's not my concern, my concern is the writing. Will I be proven wrong? Probably not. Do I want to be proven wrong? Yes.


as people said he isn't a bad writer usually.
Oct 25, 2019 7:48 AM

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Isn't Makoto Fukami involved in Psycho-Pass 3? It says that in his MAL profile.
yes he is back and he was absent on s2 to work on the movie so its a very good sign that it will at least be way above s2

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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Cookies said:
Lol @ people trying to ignore the obvious facts.

OP is dead right, Psycho Pass' writing is what made the first season and ruined the second, and the writer of the third season is the same writer as the second. I am very confident this show's biggest problem will be terrible writing.

Most fanboys of certain anime especially the popular ones aren't really aware of certain details so they see this (which is the most legitimate reason for concern considering this series' track record) and ot of ignorance their best response is saying the person is "whining" or "trolling" or something so they don't have to confront any point presented since they don't have an actual response and feel insecure about someone having an issue with an anime they like
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Oct 26, 2019 10:49 AM

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Briareoss said:
I don't know if people have realized this fact yet..but that goddamn low level writer Tow Ubukata is back at it again for season 3, after he single handedly destroyed the whole franchsise with, what he called, a screenplay for Season 2. The trailer for season 3 seems to have some of his "ideas" from season 2 in it already. So the question I'm asking myself now is: WHY THE F*** DID THEY BRING HIM BACK? Why didn't you just put Makoto Fukami and Ryo Yoshigami in charge? Fukami did his thing with the manga, the movie and two of those case files. Yoshigama did the other case file and also did a descent job although hes pretty new to the scene. So why not at least put only those two skilled (!!) writers in charge if you can' t get the original creator to do it. Why you have to pay an extra, unneccessary salary to a f***ing bum who can't write for sh**? I mean that doesn't make any sense at all. You wanna keep your costs low with the maximum of outcome right? Paying extra for LITERALLY nothing, is bad buissnes.

All scripts in Season 2 were reviewed by Gen Urobochi so I wouldn't say he single-handedly destroyed season 2. Give him a chance.
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I am gonna risk jinxing myself after only 2 episodes, but already season 3 is exponentially better than season 2 was and there is so much more creative control for the writer to do stuff so far. It has its own unique personality and actually feels like a continuation to the stuff before rather than some weird standalone story that doesn't actually affect much like season 2 ended up being.

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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leev said:
You can call me an idiot or anything but the second season wasn't that bad


Tbh honest I don't think it was bad either....just very VERY forgettable. I remember a lot of the first season, but I don't remember a fucking thing from season 2, because the writing was simply average.
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Coming back here after Psycho Pass 3's completion and yes, it was very bad.
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Hatsuyuki said:
Coming back here after Psycho Pass 3's completion and yes, it was very bad.


I agree it wasn't very good.

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Coming back here after Psycho Pass 3's completion and yes, it was very bad.


I agree it wasn't very good.



That's not even my main gripe with the show, my main issue is with the fact that the writer fails to build upon the solid foundation that Season 1 has laid for him. Sybil & what happened to Unit One are things that are barely being mentioned, instead we're getting this Bifrost thing out of nowhere and it turns out it's not even going to be explained this season, the plot is deliberately dragged out for the sake of milking the franchise. At this point it's not even Psycho Pass anymore, it's a mediocre detective show with the Psycho Pass brand slapped on it. I am seriously conflicted on whether there's any value in picking up future iterations of the franchise. I hate Tow Ubukata and how he bastardized one of my favorite anime.
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Codesteins said:


I agree it wasn't very good.



That's not even my main gripe with the show, my main issue is with the fact that the writer fails to build upon to solid foundation that Season 1 has laid for him. Sybil & what happened to Unit One are thing that are barely being mentioned, instead we're getting this Bifrost thing out of nowhere and it turns out it's not even going to be explained this season, the plot is deliberately dragged out for the sake of milking the franchise. At this point it's not even Psycho Pass anymore, it's a mediocre detective show with the Psycho Pass brand slapped on it. I am seriously conflicted on whether there's any value in picking up future iterations of the franchise. I hate Tow Ubukata and how he bastardized one of my favorite anime.



Well honestly it is very hard to compete with Gen Urobuchi, I mean the guy made a magical girl anime that blew other magical girl anime out of the water.
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Tow Ubukata can do great writing but he's better off with his own projects then so copying the caliber of gen urobuchi.

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Tow Ubukata can do great writing but he's better off with his own projects then so copying the caliber of gen urobuchi.


He did the same thing with Mardock Scramble. Random ass scenes, with no coherent plotline nor charatcerexploration whatsoever, stabled together trying to trick you into thinking you just watched something deep while in reality you didn't.

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