Toaru Kagaku no Accelerator Episode 10 Discussion

Sep 13, 2019 6:27 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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I guess with this show is trying to set up for the big ending at this rate with the ultimate clash from the science side. That's some weird experimental shit going crazy.

Quite frankly, I want to see Accelerator unleash his real power and go all out this season. In the meantime, we still got troubles dealing with DA this season. Accelerator still has his hands full this episode.

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Sep 13, 2019 7:07 AM

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So things are turning more hectic now with the past coming forward.
Estelle created a lot of problems unknowingly to her still she needs to solve what she started, part of what she started was out of her hands tho.
And Accelerator helping is very useful but will they be able to solve it.

Sep 13, 2019 7:38 AM

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The girl was usual at first, then getting mad when she saw the blood and the source.

Those wires? related to the girl starts to move.

Then revealed it was not her... it only listen to the "demon" she speaks of.

Rosental family's goal... Golem with complete body, so she was chosen.

One of the Rosental ancestor, who was the demon... he was in that body.

Acce.'s turn to defeat it.

Complete Body Read as Perfect Golem

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Sep 13, 2019 7:42 AM

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though episode 10 have different scene from manga version it doesn't change that it is another good episode. but for people who just started watch accelerator version without know much about toaru world setting, in other words never try to read the LN, you might have headache because episode 10 will have almost half part about complex explanation. trust me, just because it is not main story it is not mean it will easy to understand the theory in it

Sep 13, 2019 11:46 AM

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Estelle's ancestor was the demon. I think his name was Isaac..

I also want to see Accelerator going all out.

Sep 13, 2019 12:12 PM

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Damm what a bad time for Hirumi to wake up. Seems that only a portion of her self remained though. The insight into Estelle's family goals though was pretty insightful. Golem making huh. Still events sure escalated pretty quickly in the most unexpected of ways. Of the line Issac was the true monster it seems. But the revelation on how horrible the art perfected by her family was sure hit Estelle hard. Quite curious to see how this goes when it looks like Issac's got all the cards.

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Sep 13, 2019 1:37 PM

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Accelerator's motivation speeches are amazing, time to kick ass, not giving a damn if it's the soul of some old crazy magician inside a tentacle monsters that's about to become a god.

Overall: the episode is dark as fuck.

Sep 13, 2019 1:50 PM

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I guess it all just depends on how invested someone is in Estelle's character/ backstory. If you're really into it, then you'll be loving this. However, if your main interest is in the 'staples' of the To Aru universe; i.e., Accelerator, the Sisters, Last Order, Yomikawa, etc., then some of this stuff with the Rosenthall family might seem a bit dull and uninteresting.

But as I've said before, this is just a problem inherent in watching a show in real- time, as apposed to binging it later. When you're binging, you can more easily see the big picture. But in real- time, you gotta wait a week to see what happens next. So if you're hyped to see Accelerator kick ass, but instead you just get an episode of almost entirely Rosenthall info dumps, it might seem like a letdown because now you gotta wait another week. But on the same token, a show does have to find a way to flesh out other characters and explain things, so it's not like every single episode can be all- out all the time (plus that might get exhausting). It's a weird dilemma.

But all I know is that I have so little interest in these one- off characters (DA, those assassin girls, Hishigata, Hirumi, Estelle, etc.) that it's almost laughable. When these supposedly big reveals or events happen surrounding them, I'm just yawning until Accelerator shows up or something happens with the Sisters or Last Order, where I'll regain interest, because those are the characters I'm actually invested in. Estelle could die and I wouldn't even bat an eye, but if a single hair gets plucked from Last Order's head.... oh hell naw.

Sep 13, 2019 2:03 PM

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Rizki_Diablo said:
though episode 10 have different scene from manga version it doesn't change that it is another good episode. but for people who just started watch accelerator version without know much about toaru world setting, in other words never try to read the LN, you might have headache because episode 10 will have almost half part about complex explanation. trust me, just because it is not main story it is not mean it will easy to understand the theory in it

I think I get what you're trying to say. And, yeah I've been able to follow this easily enough, but there are still certainly some things I had a hard time with. Namely, how was it that the Rosenthall bloodline just so happened to find out about and work with Hishigata & Hirumi? And how exactly does 10,000 deaths make one a 'perfect body'? Little things like that, plus the fact that you gotta just smile and nod when they're talking about all this merging with pseudo- souls and stuff like that. You kinda just go "uh- huh. k then." Like I said earlier, it's this weird dilemma where we want them to take enough time to properly explain things, yet at the same time we don't want a week of mostly info dumps while we yawn and wait for Accelerator to show up and actually do something interesting. It's a paradox for sure.

Sep 13, 2019 3:10 PM

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This episode had reference about a certain being that Touma & Accel will face on future.

I think some people will confuse about demon & god stuff just by watching accel anime but trust me, you need saw this as part of whole to aru series (from index, railgun, and accel), not only as one season anime.

For comparission, fate fans hyped about el melloi adaptation despite it confusing for non-fate fans. That because a lot of nasuverse referance in el melloi anime which leads us to Fgo babylonia and camelot chapter adaptation. Same case with accel, that demon & god stuff are hint to something bigger in next to aru series. At this point, railgun s1 also does something similar with introduction of AIM burst that actually (nearly) similar being with kazakiri hyouka & aiwass.

Sep 13, 2019 3:29 PM

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ok like it is getting good

Sep 13, 2019 5:11 PM

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Giant tentacle monster. Well at least it's not another mech...

Surprised they're still dragging out the DA stuff, I figured they'd be done with that stuff by now.

Sep 13, 2019 5:56 PM

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Inori_Hatsune said:
This episode had reference about a certain being that Touma & Accel will face on future.

I think some people will confuse about demon & god stuff just by watching accel anime but trust me, you need saw this as part of whole to aru series (from index, railgun, and accel), not only as one season anime.

For comparission, fate fans hyped about el melloi adaptation despite it confusing for non-fate fans. That because a lot of nasuverse referance in el melloi anime which leads us to Fgo babylonia and camelot chapter adaptation. Same case with accel, that demon & god stuff are hint to something bigger in next to aru series. At this point, railgun s1 also does something similar with introduction of AIM burst that actually (nearly) similar being with kazakiri hyouka & aiwass.

Lol... you are aware that F/GO and El Melloi 2 aren't even part of the same world, yes?
However, at least for the To Aru part you're not wrong, having watched Index and Railgun (or even better, read) might be helpful here.

On another note, Accelerators battery is now at 2 full episodes and 10 minutes of the 3rd one and running, but hey, remember when he had limits on that thing? Heh. Oh well, if I just watch it for the action and mindless entertainment, it still delivers somewhat...

Sep 13, 2019 6:22 PM

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Basically, this is an enhanced version of a Resident Evil boss

Sep 13, 2019 8:06 PM

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Ahh I'm getting Railgun flashbacks with how creepy/weird these things look

Esther's breakdown happened a bit too fast imo? Like she was o-so-determined when she ordered Taowu and then in an instant fell on her knees when Isaac told his story
Can't blame her I guess

They really set up for the big fight now. Expecting an epic clash next week

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Sep 13, 2019 8:17 PM

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Play2X said:

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On another note, Accelerators battery is now at 2 full episodes and 10 minutes of the 3rd one and running, but hey, remember when he had limits on that thing? Heh. Oh well, if I just watch it for the action and mindless entertainment, it still delivers somewhat...

I noticed that too. For the past few episodes I've been waiting for his battery to drain at any moment. They went from night time all the way to daylight while Accel blasts full power all the way. At this point, I assumed the author forgot about the battery drain. It's so odd because they showed him charging the battery and that he couldn't function sufficiently to charge the battery at the start.

Sep 13, 2019 11:10 PM

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But what an unexpected turn, Issac? Wtf ?, well, I just want to see in the last episode a good fight by Accelerator 😅. This is a mess if you don't read manga. So yes it is magic and not science ?.

Sep 14, 2019 1:04 AM

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WolfDBreidi said:
But what an unexpected turn, Issac? Wtf ?, well, I just want to see in the last episode a good fight by Accelerator 😅. This is a mess if you don't read manga. So yes it is magic and not science ?.

how the fkc is this a mess compared to the manga? The manga explained literally nothing the only thing the manga did explain was isaacc nothing else.

"Even villains have standards"
-Accelerator-

Sep 14, 2019 1:08 AM

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Wow, the Accelerator side story, at least the Necromancer Arc, has even more Science-Magic crossovers than an individual Index arc.

We know that wasn't Hirumi, but turns out she wasn't even Taowu, but Isaac Rosenthal, Esther's crazy insane ancestor possessing her body.

Isaac first sought to combine Eastern magic with Western magic in his quest to achieve the Perfect Golem, and now with the power of Science provided by Academy City, he is within grasp of doing so at last.

The whole Level 6 thingy was just a ruse by Isaac to trick Hirumi into killing herself. Poor girl.

Though it can be argued that Level 6 is pretty much the equivalent to that of God in the toaru universe.

But Isaac has one more obstacle to overcome: The Accelerator.

2 episode left. I'm Sad. I want season 2 already.

Sep 14, 2019 1:53 AM

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WolfDBreidi said:
But what an unexpected turn, Issac? Wtf ?, well, I just want to see in the last episode a good fight by Accelerator 😅. This is a mess if you don't read manga. So yes it is magic and not science ?.

I read the manga and it is exactly the same, it's even a bit better in the anime.

Sep 14, 2019 3:35 AM

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^ I also remember that it was pretty much the same. Never was a fan of reading this story, i think i like it more in anime, but always thought it was a strange side-story with magic side turn. And my interest was when ieading, what Aleister thinks of this whole situation if this story was canon (i think at that point there was still no confirmation).

Sep 14, 2019 5:27 AM

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Damn, Isaac is one twisted and messed up guy. This was his plan all along then, when I thought it was the spirit of Taowu that had taken over Hirumi's body after the level 6 update was complete.

The backstory of Isaac and what he did when he was he head of the Rosenthal family was very dark. He was just as much of a twisted bastard back then and he hasn't changed one bit.

Now that Isaac is running rampage with that grotesque monster form and with Esther feeling down in the dumps, it's not on Accelerator's shoulders to that Isaac down. I must say that his speech at Esther was spot on, though. =)

Accelerator's fight will be a tough one, but I hope he wins with his usual style of craziness that most fans love him for. XD

Sep 14, 2019 7:25 AM

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Wow more plot twists. So it was actually Isaac the 4th head of the Rosenthal family who is behind this mess. Also looks like some serious shit just started and we will see Accelartor fight that thing next episode.

Sep 14, 2019 7:37 AM

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Elisile said:

I think I get what you're trying to say. And, yeah I've been able to follow this easily enough, but there are still certainly some things I had a hard time with. Namely, how was it that the Rosenthall bloodline just so happened to find out about and work with Hishigata & Hirumi? And how exactly does 10,000 deaths make one a 'perfect body'? Little things like that, plus the fact that you gotta just smile and nod when they're talking about all this merging with pseudo- souls and stuff like that. You kinda just go "uh- huh. k then." Like I said earlier, it's this weird dilemma where we want them to take enough time to properly explain things, yet at the same time we don't want a week of mostly info dumps while we yawn and wait for Accelerator to show up and actually do something interesting. It's a paradox for sure.

you want to know easy mode to understand it? it is simple, go read toaru fan wikipedia, in there you will found almost what you want to know. but beware, toaru fan wikipedia is not easy to read or understand if you never read the LN

Sep 14, 2019 9:51 AM

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Issac was the truth behind Hirumi in the Rosehtal's effort to create the perfect golem. Too Jewish Kick that Level 6 butt back to the kabblah ,Accelerator

Sep 14, 2019 11:00 AM

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Time for Accelerator counterattack,go on.

Sep 14, 2019 1:47 PM

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Play2X said:

Inori_Hatsune said:
This episode had reference about a certain being that Touma & Accel will face on future.

I think some people will confuse about demon & god stuff just by watching accel anime but trust me, you need saw this as part of whole to aru series (from index, railgun, and accel), not only as one season anime.

For comparission, fate fans hyped about el melloi adaptation despite it confusing for non-fate fans. That because a lot of nasuverse referance in el melloi anime which leads us to Fgo babylonia and camelot chapter adaptation. Same case with accel, that demon & god stuff are hint to something bigger in next to aru series. At this point, railgun s1 also does something similar with introduction of AIM burst that actually (nearly) similar being with kazakiri hyouka & aiwass.

Lol... you are aware that F/GO and El Melloi 2 aren't even part of the same world, yes?
However, at least for the To Aru part you're not wrong, having watched Index and Railgun (or even better, read) might be helpful here.

On another note, Accelerators battery is now at 2 full episodes and 10 minutes of the 3rd one and running, but hey, remember when he had limits on that thing? Heh. Oh well, if I just watch it for the action and mindless entertainment, it still delivers somewhat...

What I mean here is El melloi had a lot of reference to fgo such as olga, babylonia, artoria, etc. I know fgo is different world. But nasuverse had a lot of reference from its another series.

Same with to aru, but all to aru series occured in same world.

Sep 14, 2019 2:30 PM

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Inori_Hatsune said:

Play2X said:

Lol... you are aware that F/GO and El Melloi 2 aren't even part of the same world, yes?
However, at least for the To Aru part you're not wrong, having watched Index and Railgun (or even better, read) might be helpful here.

On another note, Accelerators battery is now at 2 full episodes and 10 minutes of the 3rd one and running, but hey, remember when he had limits on that thing? Heh. Oh well, if I just watch it for the action and mindless entertainment, it still delivers somewhat...

What I mean here is El melloi had a lot of reference to fgo such as olga, babylonia, artoria, etc. I know fgo is different world. But nasuverse had a lot of reference from its another series.

Same with to aru, but all to aru series occured in same world.

In that way you're right. Even though I might argue, that Lord El-Melloi has more references to Fate/Apocrypha than it has to Grand Order.

A Spinoff of To Aru in a parallel world might be funny on its own though.

Sep 14, 2019 8:25 PM

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Play2X said:
A Spinoff of To Aru in a parallel world might be funny on its own though.

Yea I really hope that parallel world to aru will be adapted. So far we got 2 non cannon spinoff that didnt had conncetion to main series (nichijou index & idol accel). For those spin off, I believe JC will able make it good similar with they does to machikado mazoku.

Sep 15, 2019 11:31 AM

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Poor Esther. She's so cute and sweet, but can't even take a little break. Her luck must have a lot of misfortune there. And then Isaac has to show up and throw all that in her face. Esther did nothing wrong.

Accelerator fighting that monster will be interesting.

Sep 15, 2019 2:14 PM

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a tentacle abomination huh
Accelerator would be delighted in trashtalking to the current enemy...hehehe
4/5.

Sep 16, 2019 7:19 PM

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Damn! This fight will be epic! lvl 6 vs almost lvl 6.

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Sep 26, 2019 9:35 PM

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So, the real villain is Estelle's ancestor.

Time for Accelerator to kick ass.

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Oct 3, 2019 9:44 PM

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Hirumi turning into a tentacle monster is random af

Of course there is a mastermind...

I'm at least looking forward to Accelerator destroying the "level 6"

Mar 21, 2021 4:49 AM

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so he was also responsible for the sisters project? whaaaaat?

Misaka should be part of the battle then

Jul 19, 2021 8:41 AM

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I thought the abilities of each esper are unique but in Esther's case the whole family has the same ones? Weird.

Nov 11, 2022 4:16 AM

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This story is just a bunch of nonsense at this point now. Also with like couple eps left I don't think there's gonna be much more Accelerator backstory or anything which is what I was hoping for.

Just Esther feat. Accelerator.

Jun 7, 2023 2:30 PM

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Now this somehow turned up into a historical occult mess. And yes a mess.. because someone from centuries ago has been revealed to be the main villain behind everything all of a sudden. I mean anyone could hardly care about this information.

I just want to see Accelerator kicking some ass, be it of some level 6 or a tentacle monster.

Jun 20, 2023 10:50 AM

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Oh, so Mikihiko wasn't aware it was Taowu all along. I was wrong. Using a person's memories to replicate the original's personality is the ultimate tool of deception. Even I was deceived. Lol.

I wonder what makes us who we are. When are we "alive or dead?" I'm a science person, so I don't believe in the concept of the soul. Ultimately, are we all just an accumulation of memories that form into a personality? If all my memories can be copied to an empty brain or some other vessel, will that vessel become me? These questions will only be answered once science has advanced enough to the "divine." How I wish I were around to find out.

I like the twist. The story made us think it was another plan similar to the Level Six Shift. Instead, it was just a stepping stone for the ultimate necromancy. I wonder why the succeeding generations of Rosenthals didn't do that? They still had 3 of those numbered spirits. I guess Nathan wasn't aware his father became immortal through Taowu.

Nov 28, 2023 2:09 PM

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Accelerator can be different eh

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