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every episode is such an immersive ride at this point - and this one certainly qualified! more Mika badass-ery |
| Omfg foreshadowing and death flags. noooooo,,😭 |
| im thinking that the other frame that they found that was said to be to big for a mobile suit must be a mobile armor. |
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| Ooooo! McGillis you sly bastard. Roping in Orga like that. Turbines is right, Orga needs to learn to make more allies, but I don't think McGillis is a proper ally to be honest. He's got his own agenda and I can definitely see him throwing Tekkadan under the bus if they become "inconvenient"... Looking forward to seeing the two new revamped Gundam frames that they mentioned here. Tekkadan's so damn lucky to own 4 of them in all. Reminds me of 00 really, though I would hope we'll get to see even more of them. I do recall them saying back in season 1 that there were at least a 100 or so of them frames lost in the war. So the first minor problem with the pirates dealt with, and now we get some mentions of future endeavors. I really want to see just how big Tekkadan will get. |
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| Another great episode. I'm so glad to see these boys growing so much, they started as tekkadan but after so much effort and teamwork they became Tekkadan!!! I love so much Orga's smartass and Mika's badass attitude xD He is a man of few words and he is so badass. Tekkadan knew they wanted to kill them, so they came prepared ;) That guy thought that Gjallarhorn would help him hahaha I bet that new Gundam that they've found in the ground will be piloted by that blonde guy that asked Mika to let him pilot. And they still didn't reveal that other Gundam that was too big xD Can't wait to see what it is. |
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JizzyHitler said: shanimebib said: he has the potential to be one of the best gundam antagonists in the franchise if they play their cards right, hes genuinely manipulative and always has a sinister aura surrounding everything he does, my only worry is that he doesnt turn into a complete jobber by shows end like alot of char clones unfortunately become.McGillis is one of my favourite characters in this anime. He is a heartless bastard who wouldn't mind sacrificing those who are close to him so I am all pumped up with this "trigger of success" as he formed an alliance with Tekkadan. You cannot read him. He is too dangerous. Orga knows all too well that he is not to be trusted, yet he decided to gamble everything on it. I'm just curious how they will turn him around to be an enemy of tekkadan as the show goes on, i think that'd be a big waste of potential if he doesnt turn on them at some point and im a tad worried when they do it might be too late in the series. Like I said, he is too damn unpredictable. And you are right. There is a sinister aura about him. I won't be surprised if he stabs on the back of Tekkadan once he gets the better of Rastall as @Raz1515 pointed out. Rastall is almost a carbon copy of those 'seemingly' main villains who are used as decoys in previous Gundam franchises. The Ioq guy already looks a goody two shoes and ready to kick the bucket somewhat gloriously midway this season. And then there is Gae— I mean the masked guy. He will probably put up some adversity to both McGillis and Tekkadan in the actual battlefield but won't be controlling the outcomes of the clashes or conflicts, be it political or personal. That only leaves a blonde guy with an imposing personality. The villain's hot seat suits no one better. The potential is there. So, I am also hoping the cards are played much earlier than just in the final couple of episodes. |
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FallenUndead said: This is the first thing that came to mind. I still don't like Hush but it's clear as day he'll get the suit I really doubt that Hush is going to get that particular Gundam. He's not even that good at piloting a mobile worker. We've seen him struggling in the last fight. He's going to need a huge amount of training. I have a feeling that he will be the pilot for the new mobile armor and be the support back-up for Mika. |
Raz1515 said: JizzyHitler said: If it was a secret that him and tekkadan are working together, I'd say, after he's done using them he'll finish them off. But since it's known to everyone, I don't know how his backstabbing is gonna play out.he has the potential to be one of the best gundam antagonists in the franchise if they play their cards right, hes genuinely manipulative and always has a sinister aura surrounding everything he does, my only worry is that he doesnt turn into a complete jobber by shows end like alot of char clones unfortunately become. I'm just curious how they will turn him around to be an enemy of tekkadan as the show goes on, i think that'd be a big waste of potential if he doesnt turn on them at some point and im a tad worried when they do it might be too late in the series. It's gonna happen one way or another though, mika's discomfort while he was shaking orga's hand was kinda forshadowing He wasn't in discomfort. He was simply observing. Remember back to the 1st season that Orga said that Mika's eyes are always on him. This is reference back to that. Everytime Orga takes a risk, Mika is watching him. Mika has always been very blunt, he would say so if he didn't agree. Actually, Mika has a bit of a connection with McGillis. He can always somehow see the real side of him, like when he just bluntly said that he was "tired" which actually is true as everything that McGillis is trying to do is weighing down on him. It's not like McGillis doesn't feel guilt for what he's done. He's actually shown that in his own subtle way. But he also doesn't go back and regret either. He has dedicated himself to this mission of cleaning out Gjallerhorn, no matter the sacrifice, even if that sacrifice is to him. Could he betray Tekkadan? Sure. But McGillis is too smart to simply betray people willy-nilly. He's not going to unnecessarily burn bridges. He betrayed Gaelio only when the gain for him outweighed the loss. As of right now, there's no chance of that happening with Tekkadan. They have nothing he wants other than their help. Also, if you remember last season, he actually pinned quite a bit of his hopes on Kudelia and Tekkadan. I don't think McGillis is actually going to be the final villian. He's not being set up that way. An anti-hero? Yes. But I think Gaelio/Vidar is going to be our series villain, especially considering how much he hates both McGillis and Tekkadan. |
Irenesharda said: Raz1515 said: If it was a secret that him and tekkadan are working together, I'd say, after he's done using them he'll finish them off. But since it's known to everyone, I don't know how his backstabbing is gonna play out. It's gonna happen one way or another though, mika's discomfort while he was shaking orga's hand was kinda forshadowing He wasn't in discomfort. He was simply observing. Remember back to the 1st season that Orga said that Mika's eyes are always on him. This is reference back to that. Everytime Orga takes a risk, Mika is watching him. Mika has always been very blunt, he would say so if he didn't agree. Actually, Mika has a bit of a connection with McGillis. He can always somehow see the real side of him, like when he just bluntly said that he was "tired" which actually is true as everything that McGillis is trying to do is weighing down on him. It's not like McGillis doesn't feel guilt for what he's done. He's actually shown that in his own subtle way. But he also doesn't go back and regret either. He has dedicated himself to this mission of cleaning out Gjallerhorn, no matter the sacrifice, even if that sacrifice is to him. Could he betray Tekkadan? Sure. But McGillis is too smart to simply betray people willy-nilly. He's not going to unnecessarily burn bridges. He betrayed Gaelio only when the gain for him outweighed the loss. As of right now, there's no chance of that happening with Tekkadan. They have nothing he wants other than their help. Also, if you remember last season, he actually pinned quite a bit of his hopes on Kudelia and Tekkadan. I don't think McGillis is actually going to be the final villian. He's not being set up that way. An anti-hero? Yes. But I think Gaelio/Vidar is going to be our series villain, especially considering how much he hates both McGillis and Tekkadan. I'd say gaelio is actually the antagonist here and not the villain. They're kinda setting up tekkadan/mcgillis as non-hero protagonists, which is something I actually like |
| Orga better be careful about biting more than he can chew. L-Ryoshi said: iirc each one of these frames was named and numbered after one of the 72 Dukes of Hell featured in the first book of the Lesser Key of Solomon (some old ass grimoire), Ars Goetia.Looking forward to seeing the two new revamped Gundam frames that they mentioned here. Tekkadan's so damn lucky to own 4 of them in all. Reminds me of 00 really, though I would hope we'll get to see even more of them. I do recall them saying back in season 1 that there were at least a 100 or so of them frames lost in the war. |
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Raz1515 said: Irenesharda said: He wasn't in discomfort. He was simply observing. Remember back to the 1st season that Orga said that Mika's eyes are always on him. This is reference back to that. Everytime Orga takes a risk, Mika is watching him. Mika has always been very blunt, he would say so if he didn't agree. Actually, Mika has a bit of a connection with McGillis. He can always somehow see the real side of him, like when he just bluntly said that he was "tired" which actually is true as everything that McGillis is trying to do is weighing down on him. It's not like McGillis doesn't feel guilt for what he's done. He's actually shown that in his own subtle way. But he also doesn't go back and regret either. He has dedicated himself to this mission of cleaning out Gjallerhorn, no matter the sacrifice, even if that sacrifice is to him. Could he betray Tekkadan? Sure. But McGillis is too smart to simply betray people willy-nilly. He's not going to unnecessarily burn bridges. He betrayed Gaelio only when the gain for him outweighed the loss. As of right now, there's no chance of that happening with Tekkadan. They have nothing he wants other than their help. Also, if you remember last season, he actually pinned quite a bit of his hopes on Kudelia and Tekkadan. I don't think McGillis is actually going to be the final villian. He's not being set up that way. An anti-hero? Yes. But I think Gaelio/Vidar is going to be our series villain, especially considering how much he hates both McGillis and Tekkadan. I'd say gaelio is actually the antagonist here and not the villain. They're kinda setting up tekkadan/mcgillis as non-hero protagonists, which is something I actually like I think Gaelio might turn out to be just as much a villain as an antagonist, but we'll have to see. How far is he willing to go to hurt Tekkadan and McGillis. We'll have to see. As for Tekkadan I see them as heroes, not conventional ones, but still, hero protagonists. But McGillis, yeah, he's in that group. |
Irenesharda said: Mcgillis is an enemy to tekkadan whether they realize it or not, dont forget that while he feigned alliance with them in the past he was the one who sold out their location to carta resulting in biscuit's deaths as well as intentionally sicking ein on them which cost losses on tekkadan side including mika's sight.I don't think McGillis is actually going to be the final villian. He's not being set up that way. An anti-hero? Yes. But I think Gaelio/Vidar is going to be our series villain, especially considering how much he hates both McGillis and Tekkadan. Hes only using them, anti-hero he is not he is an antagonist with different goals than tekkadan. Orga does realize this and is mutually using mcgillis but its only going to bite them in the end. |
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JizzyHitler said: Irenesharda said: Mcgillis is an enemy to tekkadan whether they realize it or not, dont forget that while he feigned alliance with them in the past he was the one who sold out their location to carta resulting in biscuit's deaths as well as intentionally sicking ein on them which cost losses on tekkadan side including mika's sight.I don't think McGillis is actually going to be the final villian. He's not being set up that way. An anti-hero? Yes. But I think Gaelio/Vidar is going to be our series villain, especially considering how much he hates both McGillis and Tekkadan. Hes only using them, anti-hero he is not he is an antagonist with different goals than tekkadan. Orga does realize this and is mutually using mcgillis but its only going to bite them in the end. I have to completely disagree with you. You are completely confused in the order of events. When Biscuit died, McGillis had nothing to do with telling Carta their location. She tracked them there herself. It wasn't hard. In fact, McGillis backed them up during the fight, giving them the boat and personnel to make their getaway while Carta was attacking. If it wasn't for him, they would have all fallen to Carta and her sea advances. It was only later, while they were on the train, that he told Carta their location so that they could kill her. He knew they would beat her. Tekkadan was never in any real danger. He had to get rid of her and set up everything so that series would end like it ended. He was never Tekkadan's enemy. In fact he NEEDED them. Without them, he would have lost everything himself. Sure he's using Tekkadan to his advantage, but they used him and his resources to get around, so again: mutual benefits. What works in McGillis' favor is that his goal is noble and there is no one else who has the power, position, and determination to accomplish what he's trying to do. The thing is that he CAN"T fail. If he does, Gjallerhorn is going to drown in its own bureaucratic corruption with the 7 Stars fighting each other and not caring about anyone by themselves, lawlessness will spread even further, and eventually this will spark a war. Think about what Gjallerhorn was doing with the Dort colonies. Same thing will happen again if someone doesn't change things, and McGillis is the only one willing to try. McGillis is wily, and he's ruthless. That is true. But to be honest, so is Tekkadan. Unlike Gaelio or Carta, there is a whole lot more to Tekkadan, and if he does wrong by them, a whole lot more people who will be after his blood. He has no reason right now to make them his enemy. He needs them, and they need him. They would have never been able to accomplish what they did with Dawn Horizon. And considering that they are both about to have a mutual enemy, it would behoove them to work together. McGillis is one of the most classic Char clones there has been in awhile. Right now, he's gone from his "Red Comet" to his "Quattro Bajeena" stage. Time will only tell if he'll fall into the "CCA" stage. |
JizzyHitler said: How so, their interactions in the first season were very much the same with orga acknowledging that mcgilliss pretty much threw them under the bus later on in the series. As they said a couple episodes back, orga doesnt trust mcgillis at all and they are essentially mutually using one another rather than forming an actual alliance. Whoops. Typo. It should read "so very well-established." |
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| i think that orga will regret to do this alliance with chocolate man. I had a bad feeling about it. Just like Naze said, orga is not skilled when it comes to politics. Ah, and the battle with mikazuki and the pirate was pretty cool |
| Allium is a fodder who has the guts to mess with Tekkadan! McGillins Alliance with Orga formed a better agreement in all of this, but we all know this is not going the peaceful way. 4/5. |
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CG said: lord23 said: Nope, they found a Gundam frame (Gundam Flauros, from the looks of it) and something that's bigger than a Mobile Suit should be (that is, very likely to turn out to be a Mobile Armor for a Gundam, to be used by Mikazuki later in the series)Actually they found Two Gundam frames in this episode I guess so, as the Gundam Vidar fits Gaelio more; with rapier as the main melee weapon. |
| Great episode even though the continuation of the battle from the previous episode wasn't the best, it is understandable though because doing a triple threat isn't always easy. |
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| Overkill is the best kind of kill... Considering the state of current affairs, Tekkadan is in for a very bumpy ride. In that respect, the discovery of a new Gundam frame is certainly a welcome piece of news. Tekkadan will definitely need it... |
| The action up front was really good. Oh lookie, they found a gundam for the newbie. (mobile armor too?) I wonder if this will go the standard route: they join forces only to be betrayed later... |
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| Bad alliance. McGillis uses everyone around him. That said, still an interesting turn of events. |
| I think we are gonna have a great war up ahead. Joining forces with Gjallarhorn seems a very risky idea, making more enemies. And I still cannot see what the advantages that will be given by Gjallarhorn to Tekkadan. |
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| Rip Allium, that's what you get for costing Tekkadan lives trying to kill Kudelia with the aid of pirates. You should've just given em the money they wanted and you would've only gotten arrested (not death). Awesome that they received the mine and found some old gundams, are they gonna restore those gundams? I feel like Shino is gonna get a Gundam of his own. The handshake made both McGillis and Orga look like villains. |
| Extortion, that's what you get, Allium. |
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| Mika was savage, "I wasn't expecting you to anyway." He was even more savage by straight up shooting Allium. Mika's "stoic" face can be annoying at times because it just looks blank, stoic would be like Hiro Yui's face that still looks tough. Mika tends to look blank like he's bored or something. |
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| I love the first season. But the second hasn't been that great to me. And this episode just... idk it doesn't excite me as much. :( |
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| Well I know I have quite a bit of catching up to do still (9 more episodes currently out as I'm typing this), but I just wanted to note that practically everyone has mentioned something about their plans for the future by now. There are so many death flags up that I can't even make a decent guess about who's going to die. All I know is that something is going to go horribly wrong very soon. God damn it... I want everyone to live. |
| a new mistery buried in the mine, is a Gundam? or any advance weapon? I think that i will know in the next episode!!!! Tekkadan every episode is a great and biggest company, but the big ones end up falling :? |
| Right in the action with the beggining, sweet. I like McGillis as a character, he is very interesting and intriguing, but as a person, he is really ruthless more so than Mika (last episode of S1), in a way it just gives me the chills (Mika was badass ruthless on this episode). Loved both parts of the episode, look forward to see the page of adventures in Tekandan's history, it will be just a bloody as the last one, I m sure! |
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| I can't help but feel an ominous flag has been raised by this new alliance |
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| Shino i propose to not lust after the new Gundam frame because if you get it instead of the new guy you are just raising up your death flag because the new guy has been built as a kind of guy that will pilot a Gundam. Orga mafia boss act with Mika as hit man was quite the fun moment. shanimebib said: JizzyHitler said: he has the potential to be one of the best gundam antagonists in the franchise if they play their cards right, hes genuinely manipulative and always has a sinister aura surrounding everything he does, my only worry is that he doesnt turn into a complete jobber by shows end like alot of char clones unfortunately become. I'm just curious how they will turn him around to be an enemy of tekkadan as the show goes on, i think that'd be a big waste of potential if he doesnt turn on them at some point and im a tad worried when they do it might be too late in the series. Like I said, he is too damn unpredictable. And you are right. There is a sinister aura about him. I won't be surprised if he stabs on the back of Tekkadan once he gets the better of Rastall as @Raz1515 pointed out. Rastall is almost a carbon copy of those 'seemingly' main villains who are used as decoys in previous Gundam franchises. The Ioq guy already looks a goody two shoes and ready to kick the bucket somewhat gloriously midway this season. And then there is Gae— I mean the masked guy. He will probably put up some adversity to both McGillis and Tekkadan in the actual battlefield but won't be controlling the outcomes of the clashes or conflicts, be it political or personal. That only leaves a blonde guy with an imposing personality. The villain's hot seat suits no one better. The potential is there. So, I am also hoping the cards are played much earlier than just in the final couple of episodes. It's not a matter of surprise about him becoming their enemy. He basically told them that. When he admits that his goal is to have the most power in Gjallarhorn so he can reform it and get rid of corruption he is basically admitting that once he gets in power he will go against them. Using things like Tekkadan etc to get power is corruption also but Chocolote Man seems to believe that it doesn't matter what corrupted ways he uses as long as he gets in power since when he gets there he can clean everything up. And secrets deals with Tekkadan is also part of corruption and when he needs them no more he is going to clean shop and therefore try to take down Tekkadan too. I am surprised that Orga didn't realize that helping him means making enemies of a united Gjallahorn later on. Or maybe he knows but doesn't care because he believes they will also more powerful by that time. |
| I wanna have my face smashed by Kudelia's booty, damn |
| Sandoval is captured. Hush appears before Mikazuki. He wants a MS. Orga and Mikazuki appear before Allium. Dead. Atra and Kudelia. A Gundam Frame? Orga appears before McGillis. Dat handshake. |
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| Ooh boy, some real brutality in this one, and some real development. The execution kind of shocked me, but it isn't too surprising given the stuff that happened earlier. |
| I can't get enough of Mika coldly killing who he needs to without hesitation. Gonna be messy when Kudelia and Atra find out tho. Damn that's a lot of moving pieces. That alliance with McGillis is 100% gonna bite them back at some point. |
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Orga "We've lost some lives over this matter.If you don't have the money you can go straight to heaven...and apologize to them."
hopefully that handshake pays off!
hopefully that handshake pays off!
Petro42 said: Orga "We've lost some lives over this matter.If you don't have the money you can go straight to heaven...and apologize to them." this scene was fantastic, awesome orga. |
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| i'm afraid that this alliance with McGillis will be the end of Tekkadan. A lot of forreshadowing in this epiosde, a lot of brutality and a lot of death flag, i feel a little anxious now. |
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