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| That wolf girl lol... I couldn't watch any more after that. This anime has been pretty cringeworthy so far, but that was the worst. I was expecting real mystery from this anime, but apparently that was too much to ask for. >__> [dropped] |
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Ein said: Uh yeah no, i'm a writer, and i know the ins and outs of story and world construction as well as trope use and so on. I never said this was a special piece of writing, and i would never leave such gaps in context unless particular characters were in the dark of what was happening elsewhere. But this anime is not my writing, it's someone else's. Just because you can't see the logic, doesn't mean it's not there. It's "off stage" plot. The world and it's events continue to happen even if you aren't there to see it all happening.GenesisAria said: I'm not overprotective of anything. It's just so tiresome to see everyone nitpicking so much instead of just enjoying what you get. I said that i'm not the type to propose explanations of minor things like that. I'll go explain technicalities and sciences and whatnot of intellectual anime that people had troubles getting, but not stuff like this that hardly even matters. So basically you got nothing right? This isn't nitpicking, I'm seriously having trouble grasping the flow of logic that this show follows but at this point I just don't believe such a thing exists. Excuse me for recognizing actual flaws in the writing instead of turning a blind eye to the mishaps like you suggested. If something is bad then I'll call it out on it. And oh please, calling this a minor case doesn't mean that it's allowed to have plot holes out of the blue. Saying that you won't even bother explaining this is basically admitting that you can't It's not a writing method i would use without ample refinement and giving hints or clues along the way, but it's not inherently bad jest because YOU cannot connect the dots. Claiming i don't have an explanation because i can't be assed to cook one up just to convince a pessimistic sod, doesn't mean it can't be done; that's just fallacious troll logic. Technically there's nothing that can't be done, especially in fiction, it's just a question of how. |
❀桜舞う空〜 Cute is Power. 🔗CosmoGenesis Project “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” “A truth seeker has no patience for BS.” I seek only to improve myself and others. |
GenesisAria said: Ein said: Uh yeah no, i'm a writer, and i know the ins and outs of story and world construction as well as trope use and so on. I never said this was a special piece of writing, and i would never leave such gaps in context unless particular characters were in the dark of what was happening elsewhere. But this anime is not my writing, it's someone else's. Just because you can't see the logic, doesn't mean it's not there. It's "off stage" plot. The world and it's events continue to happen even if you aren't there to see it all happening.So basically you got nothing right? This isn't nitpicking, I'm seriously having trouble grasping the flow of logic that this show follows but at this point I just don't believe such a thing exists. Excuse me for recognizing actual flaws in the writing instead of turning a blind eye to the mishaps like you suggested. If something is bad then I'll call it out on it. And oh please, calling this a minor case doesn't mean that it's allowed to have plot holes out of the blue. Saying that you won't even bother explaining this is basically admitting that you can't It's not a writing method i would use without ample refinement and giving hints or clues along the way, but it's not inherently bad jest because YOU cannot connect the dots. Claiming i don't have an explanation because i can't be assed to cook one up just to convince a pessimistic sod, doesn't mean it can't be done; that's just fallacious troll logic. Technically there's nothing that can't be done, especially in fiction, it's just a question of how. The problem is that connecting the dots is impossible in this case. I've explained to you why it doesn't make sense since Haruta had no way of obtaining the info he gathered and you apparently can't bring up evidence from the show to support your reasoning as to why it's possible. Saying, "i don't have an explanation because i can't be assed to cook one up just to convince a pessimistic sod" doesn't make your argument any stronger when i've brought evidence to the table and only makes you an optimistic sod in denial. |
Ein said: I'm not making any arguments; it's just a lesson in open mindedness and objectivity, which you've clearly overlooked. And sometimes you need to draw a couple dots to complete the picture. Just like he had to paint the cube to complete it's puzzle.... |
GenesisAriaJan 26, 2016 9:24 PM
| ❀桜舞う空〜 Cute is Power. 🔗CosmoGenesis Project “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” “A truth seeker has no patience for BS.” I seek only to improve myself and others. |
| I knew it was an act from the moment he ripped up that paper. |
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GenesisAria said: Ein said: I'm not making any arguments; it's just a lesson in open mindedness and objectivity, which you've clearly overlooked. And sometimes you need to draw a couple dots to complete the picture. Just like he had to paint the cube to complete it's puzzle.... You're arguing that something happened behind the scenes to make the events of the episode make sense. Do I really need to make that clear for you? And I've tried the open minded route which you "can't be bothered" to and I've looked tried to make sense of this whole thing in the bigger picture but there really isn't much to justify the lack of logic. Saying that you can't even be bothered to do so is just a pathetic response to the evidence I've presented and only serves to drag this conversation on in my favor while you mask it up as a "lesson" for god's sake |
| ugh... The writing is not one of the best and the direction just hurts it even more. It's trying to be like Hyouka without actually doing something special with presentation, all scenes are put in a boring way and, excuse me this episode had a great opportunity with the teather scene. It's like the director wants to do it, but doesn't really know how. Like in Chuunibyou they mix fantasy with reality in a really nice way, and when done here is just boring and is not used to its full potential. Editing is bland and does not know how to copy things that were done before. Tho I do like the characters interactions (Chika and Haruta) I feel like the lines makes it too slow. There is nothing special in the animation either, at leats it is consistent. |
Ein said: Who's rule book says there has to be a logic to it? You're complaining because it bothers you. It didn't bother me, thus i can enjoy the show more. Most anime, and frankly the japanese way, is a focus on characters before plot; the stories are usually about the characters and their thoughts/emotions not things that happen to the characters. Plot holes aren't a big deal because it's obviously not the point or they would have gone and structured it better.And I've tried the open minded route which you "can't be bothered" to and I've looked tried to make sense of this whole thing in the bigger picture but there really isn't much to justify the lack of logic. Saying that you can't even be bothered to do so is just a pathetic response to the evidence I've presented and only serves to drag this conversation on in my favor while you mask it up as a "lesson" for god's sake Bottom line: You're making a huge deal out of it. I'm enjoying it just fine, you're clearly not... Who's getting more value out of things then hmm? I can't be bothered to nitpick shit when i'd rather be bothered to find things good about a story. (i'm just a person who doesn't give in to devalue, hence why i didn't shut up myself.) Focus on the merits, not the flaws. Give it a rest. |
GenesisAriaJan 27, 2016 4:46 PM
| ❀桜舞う空〜 Cute is Power. 🔗CosmoGenesis Project “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” “A truth seeker has no patience for BS.” I seek only to improve myself and others. |
GenesisAria said: Ein said: Who's rule book says there has to be a logic to it? You're complaining because it bothers you. It didn't bother me, thus i can enjoy the show more. Most anime, and frankly the japanese way, is a focus on characters before plot; the stories are usually about the characters and their thoughts/emotions not things that happen to the characters. Plot holes aren't a big deal because it's obviously not the point or they would have gone and structured it better.And I've tried the open minded route which you "can't be bothered" to and I've looked tried to make sense of this whole thing in the bigger picture but there really isn't much to justify the lack of logic. Saying that you can't even be bothered to do so is just a pathetic response to the evidence I've presented and only serves to drag this conversation on in my favor while you mask it up as a "lesson" for god's sake Bottom line: You're making a huge deal out of it. I'm enjoying it just fine, you're clearly not... Who's getting more value out of things then hmm? I can't be bothered to nitpick shit when i'd rather be bothered to find things good about a story. (i'm just a person who doesn't give in to devalue, hence why i didn't shut up myself.) Focus on the merits, not the flaws. Give it a rest. Just because you can enjoy this trainwreck that means that I'm out of line for pointing out its flaws? Maybe some people can't plainly enjoy something with blatant faults thrown at them. Don't base the value I'm getting off of your own enjoyment-centric standards. Who cares if it's a a japanese tendency? I dislike it therefore I'm ranting about it. I thought that you as a proclaimed writer would understand the gravity of a balanced structure. |
Ein said: These's many kinds of writing. It's not a trainwreck, and enjoyment-centric is the whole bloody point. It's called VISUAL ENTERTAINMENT.Just because you can enjoy this trainwreck that means that I'm out of line for pointing out its flaws? Maybe some people can't plainly enjoy something with blatant faults thrown at them. Don't base the value I'm getting off of your own enjoyment-centric standards. Who cares if it's a a japanese tendency? I dislike it therefore I'm ranting about it. I thought that you as a proclaimed writer would understand the gravity of a balanced structure. |
| ❀桜舞う空〜 Cute is Power. 🔗CosmoGenesis Project “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” “A truth seeker has no patience for BS.” I seek only to improve myself and others. |
Ein said: Just because you can enjoy this trainwreck that means that I'm out of line for pointing out its flaws? Maybe some people can't plainly enjoy something with blatant faults thrown at them. Don't base the value I'm getting off of your own enjoyment-centric standards. Who cares if it's a a japanese tendency? I dislike it therefore I'm ranting about it. I thought that you as a proclaimed writer would understand the gravity of a balanced structure. How is this a trainwreck? "I don't like it" isn't a trainwreck definition. |
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bastek66 said: Ein said: Just because you can enjoy this trainwreck that means that I'm out of line for pointing out its flaws? Maybe some people can't plainly enjoy something with blatant faults thrown at them. Don't base the value I'm getting off of your own enjoyment-centric standards. Who cares if it's a a japanese tendency? I dislike it therefore I'm ranting about it. I thought that you as a proclaimed writer would understand the gravity of a balanced structure. How is this a trainwreck? "I don't like it" isn't a trainwreck definition. Yes, but "it doesn't make sense" sort of is |
GenesisAria said: Ein said: These's many kinds of writing. It's not a trainwreck, and enjoyment-centric is the whole bloody point. It's called VISUAL ENTERTAINMENT.Just because you can enjoy this trainwreck that means that I'm out of line for pointing out its flaws? Maybe some people can't plainly enjoy something with blatant faults thrown at them. Don't base the value I'm getting off of your own enjoyment-centric standards. Who cares if it's a a japanese tendency? I dislike it therefore I'm ranting about it. I thought that you as a proclaimed writer would understand the gravity of a balanced structure. entertainment and value are two different things, bruh. I can enjoy something but that doesn't mean it's worth the same value as something less entertaining but more thought provoking. but this is going offtopic now so i'll leave it at that |
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| Haruta is God, he knows everything and annoying to |
| Another good ep, if this consistency continues, this could be a great anime. |
| i want to see more of maren and the rest of the club. i liked haruta ruining chika's chance although im still feeling iffy at the idea of possible teacher/student relation. let's hope it remains a crush rather than anything else. i keep forgetting to say this because the comments are making me angry, but i love how the opening scene is always a glimpse to the future in a way. |
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| Seems that we will have more episodes like this one, focused on new members issues... |
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| It was a good episode, but I wonder during how long they will recruit members. |
| Anyone read the manga or original novel? Is Miyoko x Maren a thing? Or it's totally undeveloped? |
ZapredonFeb 12, 2016 5:03 AM
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
| I like this and all, but Haruta knows way too much. Like heck, he knows more about China than a person with Chinese heritage, wth. Him getting kicked by Chika in the end made me somewhat happy. Also, did they just 'steal' Maren's briefcase for a limited period of time? Very nice. |
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| This was nonsense.. Haruta is still being a smart-ass. What a jerk! |
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| Average episode, it was decent but not much happened. |
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| I can't understand anything of what they are saying. T___T |
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| It was interesting, I like this weirdly unique storytelling |
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