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Nov 12, 2009 7:22 PM
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Gido sure looks quite different when he was younger, the blushing was unexpected^^ It's nice to see what they did in the past, they must have quite a few failed experiments back then. Arclight's reaction back then was horrifying but Blade succeeded as we all know^^
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Nov 16, 2009 3:47 PM
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Finally we get a bit of backstory about the two Adams and Eve. And it's getting quite interesting. Guess this is what happens when you 'play God'.

I wasn't surprised that Kasumi's little comment ("we may never see each other again") turned out to be so true in the end or that she is who we now call Eve.

I guess the next episode will show us how Arclight got so powerful.
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Nov 16, 2009 4:29 PM
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mmm just backstory here.

But i sorta wonder how/why they make arclight back into a human looking thing from that zombie.
Nov 16, 2009 4:49 PM
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Eve is the same age as Blade? because they looked the same age when they first met...
Nov 16, 2009 4:50 PM
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I think he did it himself? @Blahrgness
Nov 16, 2009 5:17 PM
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Kinda disappointing that this entire episode was a flashback, especially since there was no action and humor in it. Backstory is necessary in some anime, but in shows like Needless, I'm much more interested in the action rather than the plot.
Nov 16, 2009 7:22 PM
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good episode. the backstory was very interesting and it seems Eve hasn't aged a day lol. Is it just me or do any of you guys think that the third person (forgot his name) is Saten?





Nov 16, 2009 7:46 PM
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it does explain a lot but I felt the pace kinda slow for the show ... too bad most of the humor is based on adam and eve's personalities so it was almost like this ep was of a different series
Nov 16, 2009 10:04 PM
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ok....zombie arclight gave me creeps,so wwhat the hell happened with that girl, how did she turns herself into Eve?
how did they managed to transform that cute biy in....well, Blade
looks like saten wasnt so powerfull back then, cause he is one of those researchers, at least it looked like
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Nov 17, 2009 4:50 AM

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lol, chibi father-sama and chibi eve is so cute!

lol but wonder what kind of education they had which turned them into....ummm...
..weird people?
Nov 17, 2009 6:12 AM

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Zero_r2 said:
ok....zombie arclight gave me creeps,so wwhat the hell happened with that girl, how did she turns herself into Eve?


She didn't do it herself as she died from an accident.

They said she left some kind of will, so I assume she donated her body in favor of the Eve project and as a result, got reborn as Eve.
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Nov 17, 2009 7:40 AM
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Zero_r2 said:

looks like saten wasnt so powerfull back then, cause he is one of those researchers, at least it looked like

Yeah, Kannzaki is definitely Saten.
Nov 17, 2009 4:10 PM

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These flashbacks are really killing the momentum and this episode was badly paced, imo.
Nov 17, 2009 4:43 PM
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The episode was badly paced, but d'aww lil' Blade is so cute. :]
Nov 17, 2009 5:08 PM

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Loli Blade and Eve :D

Kasumis death was pretty abrupt lol
one second she was planning to go on a trip and the next whe was dead?

I didn't see anyone that looked Like Saten? Which researcher were you talking about?
Nov 17, 2009 6:09 PM

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Jrittmayer said:

I didn't see anyone that looked Like Saten? Which researcher were you talking about?


The third researcher working with Dr. Rikudo "Gido" and Kasumi. Remember that in the previous episode they mentioned how Saten was also a survivor of the accident and he knew Dr. Rikudo.
It would explain why Saten is in love with Eve, as he seemed to have feelings for Kasumi as well, and Eve looks like her twin (either because they decided to do it that way to honor her, or maybe as it's suggested here, because they used her genes in the Eve project to start with). Kinda soon, but the preview also suggests some interest on Eve that's beyond scientific (although previews are tongue in cheek of course xD).

I really liked the episode, as long as the backstory is interesting I don't care that the present part of plot gets halted for a while. Reminds me of the first season of Shakugan no Shana that by the middle had all the story about Shana's training and origin.

I also like how it shows explicitely that the being encouraged and hailed as a success while born becomes the hero (though a jerk, he is still altruistic) while the one hailed as a failure and dumped on becomes the villain. May sound like a cliche, but it really goes to show nurture over nature. Had Arclight been examined more and saved instead of being declared trash, maybe he wouldn't be a homidical murderer with a God Complex.

Oh and really liked the little touch of Eve being Eve-N.
Nov 17, 2009 7:17 PM

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These flashbacks are really killing the momentum and this episode was badly paced, imo.

Yea that's true... they really should have spread the flashbacks over the entire series at the right moments instead of having couple of epiodes dedicated to flashbacks...
Speaking of which, how could Cruz have a flashback of his own sister betraying the Resistance when he nver saw it in the first place?
Anyhoo they had 20 episodes to do that and I thought just reshuffling the episodes a bit woud have turned this into a really good anime. Love the characters and action but the plot twists aren't very well executed...

Also Adam and Eve... I did not think at all to link that to "Adam and Eve" from Genesis.
I thought Eve looked a bit like Kasumi but I never suspected that one of the researchers might be Saten~ Seriously, it's a shame that all the backstories are being left to the last episodes...
oh well at least the comedy element was more or less perfect~ I wonder if they gave the anime the "Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann" element on purpose~


Nov 18, 2009 9:30 AM
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Kasumis death was pretty abrupt lol
one second she was planning to go on a trip and the next whe was dead?
lol i was hoping it to be more emotional... oh well...

seriously i still think kasumi looks similar to yamada... oh now u guys mention it, kasumi also looks similar to eve if eve has short hair... eh... wait... just realize every cute girls in needless got similar face except their hair style n colour... =_=
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Nov 18, 2009 9:32 AM

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How and what the hell is with Kasumi's death? Couple of minutes near the ED, they just said that she died in an "accident" and that's it??
Nov 18, 2009 12:46 PM

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The backstory was very interesting, and we finally learned about two Adams: Blade and Arclight. I wonder what happened with Kasumi's death until I assume that Eve is actually Kasumi. I hope they will explain about that one. I am looking forward to the next episode.
Nov 18, 2009 1:52 PM

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Past part...
I really loved about all we learned.
And little Eva & Adam are cute.
Nov 20, 2009 7:57 AM

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pretty interesting their past o_olll
Arclight got thrown away ... wonder how he survived


Nov 20, 2009 7:05 PM
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Good thing. I like backstories.

If they do this right, it will be great.
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Nov 23, 2009 3:13 PM

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its about time they showed us some backstory. and i feel really stupid for not ever noticing the whole Adam and Eve thing until this episode. i guess i didn't expect the show to have any kind of depth.
Nov 24, 2009 6:47 PM

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lol i see where this is going how interesting

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Nov 24, 2009 8:02 PM

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Probably one of the most interesting episodes yet.

Nov 25, 2009 12:17 PM

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Most of the srs moments in Needless have been mega fail, as have the previous flashback episodes, but this one was interesting enough that I don't mind losing out on the action.

I agree that Kasumi's death was handled in a really shitty way. They could have at least shown the accident or SOMETHING rather than just abruptly saying "o too bad she died lol." Since there's only four episodes left obviously they're running out of time and trying to cut as much shit as possible. Makes me wish they would have trimmed some of the crap out of the arc when they were in "that room," for instance Solva and the other chick's back story didn't deserve a whole episode of attention.
Nov 25, 2009 5:53 PM

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Finally, heaps of information on all the important parts of the anime plot. Awesome episode was awesome. Also lol at how they said Kasumi died so suddenly.
Dec 12, 2009 11:41 PM

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Interesting ep.
Strange how they killed off Kasumi so quickly though I had the feeling she was dead the moment they took the picture together.


Dec 15, 2009 6:50 PM

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Wow, very interesting backstory of the Adam project.

I'm guessing that Kasumi died in an airplane accident? Since she said that she's going to a vacation. If Gido went along with her, he would have been dead too.

ALSO,WTF, BLADE AND EVE WHEN THEY WERE CHILDREN ARE SO CUTE, LOL. Blade probably worked his ass out to get all those muscles in the future.

VERY INTERESTING EPISODE.
Jun 13, 2011 7:54 AM

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it was a rather okay episode.. full of rich info :P
Jul 20, 2011 5:04 PM
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I liked it much better than the other flashback episodes so far.
Jun 23, 2012 8:03 PM

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Small Adam, and small eve are SO FUCKING CUTE!! :D
Aug 17, 2014 5:00 PM

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Very interesting backstory! I do wonder what's next!
Jul 29, 2015 9:00 PM

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flash back! called it! Lol
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Aug 30, 2015 9:19 PM

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Can't help but be reminded of the Vash/Knives flashback from Trigun. Pretty good ep, though it's odd how offhandedly that girl was killed off.
May 13, 2016 11:18 AM
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ADAM. EVE. Why didn't I realize this before?! Lol.
Oct 1, 2016 11:38 AM

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ouch, shit, that's a heavy dose of reality on you there Archlight _xD
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Very good episode, best one so far.
Sep 22, 2021 6:28 PM
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Did Eve came from Kasumi's genes? She looks like her with longer hair.
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Interesting backstory for Gido and the Adam project and turns out Eve is from that as well... while Kasumi's death just happened so randomly that indeed it might be because she's related to Eve now
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It didn't show us what accident Kasumi died in. Must've been unrelated to the plot then. I'm guessing that Arclight was jealous of Blade not being a "failure". In the last episode it showed some charred brown zombie running around in the visions Arclight was having, which could've been him rampaging through the lab for revenge or something.


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