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Jan 17, 2009 1:44 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Another Boring episode brought down by paperweight characters and lackluster Mobile suit battles.

The only good thing was that the Coup has already begun, the next four episodes will determine if the second season of Gundam 00 will redeem itself or be another Mediocre sequel just like Seed Destiny.
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Jan 18, 2009 3:17 AM
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TurnX...oops I meant Masurao = WIN
SetsunaXMarina = WIN
Setsuna's vision = WIN
New ED = Turn A...

Coup = interesting
Hercules character = suspicious of him

Overall one of best episodes, just like in the first series Ep14-15 starts up a lot of interesting things, ED scenes being one of the most intriguing factors....
Jan 18, 2009 5:22 AM
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Wanted the trans am to be green instead if red...
Jan 18, 2009 7:19 AM
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Maurice said:
Wow a coup in the end of the episode. And the new ending sounds good, liking it already ''much'' more than the previous.


Yeah, looks like they revealed more of the still scenes from the last ED too.

& looks like someone in the previous episode's discussion was right.
How many more surprises are the writers going to pull?

darkxdestinyJan 18, 2009 7:29 AM
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Seven sword is gonna be the same as exia seven swords.
Jan 18, 2009 3:00 PM
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The ED looks foreshadowing to me...

It's looks like the gundams become relics of the past as war is probably eradicated by the end of this series and humans are forever changed by the GN Particles...

Graham now has TRANS-ARM, which is a bit stupid. But recall his MS now has a special weapon that can attack the weakness of GN Drives Billy discovered from the dead professor's files, that can probably destroy the disadvantage against Twin Drive....

Ribbons, Kati, Billy, Graham and Louise are all too absorbed in their vengeance to see the bigger picture, which opposes CB, which moves not on personal grudge but on an ideal....

And Ali is...well...what concrete reason he has other than having fun and the thrill?
bla bla bla
The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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Jan 18, 2009 6:02 PM
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New ED is so much win, seriously.

From 2chan, speculation from ED has it that
Jan 18, 2009 6:20 PM
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mouselmm said:
New ED is so much win, seriously.

From 2chan, speculation from ED has it that
those people on 2chan have too much damn time :D, just like how they found out Regene wasn't Tieria in the epilogue of S1 through the credits.
Jan 18, 2009 6:42 PM
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mouselmm said:
New ED is so much win, seriously.

From 2chan, speculation from ED has it that


interesting speculation, very insightful indeed! It actually makes a lot of sense....
bla bla bla
The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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Jan 18, 2009 7:42 PM

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Orange-kun said:
mouselmm said:
New ED is so much win, seriously.

From 2chan, speculation from ED has it that
those people on 2chan have too much damn time :D, just like how they found out Regene wasn't Tieria in the epilogue of S1 through the credits.
I know seriously... Anyways that's an interesting deduction, but that's all it is.

Episode wise, Graham/Billy's secret weapon was a "go figure" and I seriously hate how Gundam 00 has just been about the obvious stupid reasons for war and because of that no one wants to see the larger picture. I kind of miss the good old days when the actual evolution of mankind was thrown into the chaos alongside a bag of cookies and pandas crying over their half eaten bamboo.

Jan 18, 2009 9:45 PM

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best ed ever. this ed gave me the same chills when i first heard of friends. we need a movie NAO.
Jan 19, 2009 12:34 AM
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BSS just released their subs so everyone get a move on XD.
Jan 19, 2009 2:00 AM
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TRANS-GRAHAM!

<_<
Jan 19, 2009 2:11 AM
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cheeky said:
TRANS-GRAHAM!

<_<


the only lol of this episode. at least something happened.
as long as that masurao cant go quantum and has lower time limit than 00.
Jan 19, 2009 2:12 AM

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cheeky said:
TRANS-GRAHAM!

<_<


QFT lol
Jan 19, 2009 2:13 AM

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Frito said:
best ed ever. this ed gave me the same chills when i first heard of friends. we need a movie NAO.
I totally agree. That was one hell of an ending.

cheeky said:
TRANS-GRAHAM!
That was seriously the most funniest thing GG subs ever did.

Jan 19, 2009 2:15 AM

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Very good episode IMO, except lovey~dovey and annoying brats. Dual plasma sword battle in the next ep? Bring it on! 4/5


"There is a road in the hearts of all of us, hidden and seldom traveled,
which leads to an unknown, secret place."
Jan 19, 2009 2:59 AM

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woohoo another superb ep.. really cant wait for the next one.. lol Trans-Graham.. haha
Jan 19, 2009 3:32 AM

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One of the best episode for me as of S2

Setsuna development, omfg is Mizushima thinking of killing him ;_; With all the hints around, its very high possibility. Setsuna is one of the character I have no complain about and i will be bawwwing if he had to go

Coup + Elevator related. Relevant to my interest

TRANS GRAHAM FAAAAAAAK YEAH!
Jan 19, 2009 3:50 AM

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Elevator drop, here it comes!
Jan 19, 2009 4:56 AM

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The good: Patrick, Force Ghost Lockon, Trans-Graham
The bad: CB gets out of another impossible situation via plot twist, Setsuna's character development is as stunted as ever, Marina "I will waste as much screen time as I damn well please" Ismail
The ugly: Unbearable Rage Guy clearly not having a trace of anger over Bring Stabity's incompetence despite what he says.
Jan 19, 2009 5:04 AM

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TRANS-GRAHAM ftw!!! hahah!


Jan 19, 2009 5:25 AM

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gSS's translation was quite entertaining, and I use a line to start things up here.

"Trans-Graham

Anyway, this episode was excellent, a new Suit and plenty of action.
Jan 19, 2009 5:51 AM

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Fear the powa of TRANS-GRAHAM.

Nice episode, the coup d'etat really caught my attention although I am 99% sure that the rebels will be slaughtered
Jan 19, 2009 6:45 AM

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Definitely lol'd at Trans-GrahAm.

Decent episode with some new developments (especially the coup). So far things are getting interesting, but it wasn't much of a surprise to me that the Masurao's secret is the Trans-Am system. I mean, what else is there aside from that?

I'm hoping the next few episodes turn out well, since they'll play a big role in the events to come.
Jan 19, 2009 7:42 AM
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Why Louise has got eyes like Innovator? o.O
TRANS-GrahAm - it loled me a lot :D

I'm only small polish female, so don't be so rude to me :<
I'm doing the best i can in english :>
Jan 19, 2009 7:52 AM

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I guess with the orbital elevator being occupied by rebels one of this seasons spoilers will be confirmed... The fall of an orbital elevator.

The ED was also great.
Jan 19, 2009 9:25 AM

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cheeky said:
TRANS-GRAHAM!

<_<

What the heck!
xD xD
Jan 19, 2009 10:45 AM

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lol @ trans graham.

Frito said:
best ed ever. this ed gave me the same chills when i first heard of friends. we need a movie NAO.


yeah i really like the new ED. not quite as powerful as friends, but the pretty scenes combined with the simultaneously sad, but hopeful song, was really nice.

gundam sucks at romance, but thankfully they do a great job at building up the action and drama. that's all i can ask for i guess.
Jan 19, 2009 11:29 AM

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finally a coup de tat as someone in the federation realizes how corrupt and stupid A-LAWS is. what the hell is wrong with Graham/Katy/Billy and some of the others? So consumed with revenge they'll let the innovators do whatever they want. I didn't really like the ending at least the music.

seems same stuff has been happening all season with celestial being being outnumbered and beat down. marie wants to fight but hal won't be happy with that. one thing that seems missing is a slight break from fighting and a perspective from the outside, should hear more about how the people don't agree with A-LAWS.
Jan 19, 2009 11:32 AM

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Pretty good episode though I didn't care much for the new ending.

Loved the Trans-Graham lol
Jan 19, 2009 12:06 PM

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Good as always. And I love the last word Setsuna said "Trans GrahAm", lol
Jan 19, 2009 12:27 PM
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Red GN particles = pseudo GN Drive
Green GN particles = GN Drive

pseudo GN Drives can't produce GN particles and has to get them from an external source that can
GN Drives can produce GN particles

Trans-Graham releases all, i repeat, ALL GN particles at once to create blahblah 3 times the power etc.

my point is...wtf? hows that going to work? its a huge risk isn't it? and omfg a-laws every single freaking unit with trans am....
Jan 19, 2009 1:06 PM

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It was a good episode and really liking the new ending how it continues the animation from the first ending and the song is not bad
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Wow, finally another great episode from 00. Everything was cleanly written and directed. A coup d'état, a development between Setsuna and Marina, plus Marina becomes useful and interesting for the first time in 40 episodes, plus a very good fight to look forward to, and a nice new ED. No, really, good work Sunrise, it was consistent and well-done for once.

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Good as always. And I love the last word Setsuna said "Trans GrahAm", lol

Someone really need to make a screencap of that part. I lol'd when I saw it.


>_>

Jan 19, 2009 2:10 PM

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Trans GrahAM!

good episode, really. coup seized the orbital elevator, and saved CB's asses. the relationship development between Marina and Setsuna made the romantic interest even more obvious than it already was. finally, the new ed was pretty good, and feels suitable for the end of the show.
Jan 19, 2009 3:11 PM

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fuckin' lol'd when they translated it "Trans GrahAM"....

Ah wow I wonder wtf I don't just finish off the gundam series? This is the only thing that makes me happy with anime anymore.
Jan 19, 2009 3:22 PM

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cheeky said:
TRANS-GRAHAM!

<_<


lol

I liked the ep, the new ending is great!
The pics of the gundams in the ending give me a chill ^^
Jan 19, 2009 4:13 PM

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Really liked the new ED.
Right when A-Laws has Celestial Being in their grasp, everything is ruined for them. Can't wait to see what happens next.

I love all the random Graham encounters no matter how old it gets. TRANS-GRAHAM!


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Dammit 2chan. Fail me for once, though all of it does make sense. I'm not sold on the dying though. Not yet at least. Setsuna losing his right arm does fit in though, considering that it's the arm that's already injured. Anyway, incoming Elevator drop, can't say that wasn't bound to happen. And Dead Lockon in Dream Setsuna was pretty awesome, if overdone. I <3 Lockon1.

Wasn't too fond of the ED, maybe it'll grow on me. Actually, more accurately, I just don't wanna see my meisters die :( Crazy to believe that this whirlwind of a ride that is 00 is nearing completion.

And, like everyone else, I have the need to post, "TRANS-GRAHAM LOL". EXCEPT IT'S NOT GRAHAM, IT'S MISTER BUSHIDO HUR HUR HUR

Oh, right and I forgot. Tieria is so boned it isn't funny. From him actually being hugely likeable to this season, to the fact his love for CB and his comrades is unparalleled, the new scene in the ED and, "I wonder if they noticed Seraphim's special ability?". Yeah, special ability = boned. That's going to suck :(
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Jan 19, 2009 4:48 PM

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As for 2chan, it is just that they have guess all the possibility things with the amount of times they have in their hand.


"A Legend is but a tale of a beautiful lie."
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I too lol'd at Trans-grahAM, and it would be Trans-mr. bushidoAM, and its gundam, so something has to drop, also for the series to truly be amazing setsuna would have to die, its a morally happy ending for him atoning for his past sins, even if i dont want him to die, as for tieria, i could care less what happens to him, hes too me for me.
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As for 2chan, it is just that they have guess all the possibility things with the amount of times they have in their hand.


Oh trust me, I know that they're only guesses, but damn they have way too much time on their hands. WAY too much time on their hands.

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Jan 19, 2009 4:56 PM

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TRANS-GRAH-Oh wait, it's been said already.

Dammit, Gundam Meisters, Let Niel rest in peace already. xD
Jan 19, 2009 6:01 PM
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One of the better episodes IMO. The new ED is pretty interesting and reveals a few things. Most interesting thing about the ED is the confirmed possibility of a Lockon+Anew pairing. The coup is an interesting plot twist, and I'll look forward to see what's going to happen next.
Jan 19, 2009 6:21 PM
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One of the better episodes IMO. The new ED is pretty interesting and reveals a few things. Most interesting thing about the ED is the confirmed possibility of a Lockon+Anew pairing. The coup is an interesting plot twist, and I'll look forward to see what's going to happen next.


Season 2 OPs = fail
Season 2 EDs = amazing like never seen before!
bla bla bla
The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?
Jan 19, 2009 7:06 PM

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Pink jacket and the green one, we may see a love triagle with feldt, lyle, curtain lady anew.
Jan 19, 2009 7:55 PM

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Frito said:
Pink jacket and the green one, we may see a love triagle with feldt, lyle, curtain lady anew.
Will we see that drama or not, we have to wait and see. But for now the happy ending for CB is still far away or maybe they are never going to have one either.


"A Legend is but a tale of a beautiful lie."
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I may be blind, but I don't see the romance between Marina and Setsuna. Just because she's a chick and he's a guy doesn't change there relationship, to me they are just opposites who have a common ground, so they have interactions. I don't see it as romantic. Hell Setsuna shows caring feelings more towards Saji then Marina, but he's not gay. So I'm not seeing it, but I wouldn't be surprised if they get together only because Gundam likes throwing people together without showing that great of a connection- Lyle and Anew wtf?? Then again this isn't a romance anime, so whatever lol.

Also- I never really thought as Marina said, that Setsuna was forcing himself to fight. What he was doing was thinking of himself as only a weapon, and trying to make up for the sins of his past. He just has to work for the future and close the doors to the horrible things that have happened before- as Lockon was saying in his dream. I think Setsuna will and should still fight, but he should fight because he wants to change the way the world is, not because he's just a weapon.
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