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Dec 13, 2012 9:18 AM
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I am really impressed by the amount attention it has been getting from the west so far. I didn't expect many people to be attracted to a cyber punk anime. Thinking i would be alone and hating all the moeblob lovers who reject animes with a complicated story driven approach. But alas people are actually being hooked by this anime i have seen it's downloads on nyaa reach 40k per episode that is pretty impressive considering the most overhyped anime SAO is getting 60k per episode.

But i keeping my fingers crossed and hoping it is just not a western effect and that it actually sells and does well japan. But then again who knows what do you guys think?
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Dec 13, 2012 9:51 AM
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Well, preorders-tracking shows something like ~4000 for the first volumes BD and DVD. Not as bad as it could be.
Dec 13, 2012 9:54 AM
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Dec 13, 2012 10:23 AM
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In a season where anime sales seem unusually polarised, Psycho-Pass is notable mainly in how unremarkable its sales are.

Oh and moe has nothing to do with quality of story a series has.
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Dec 13, 2012 11:51 AM
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This is the type of story that requires great all around execution. If they slip up once or twice, the path of the story can crash and burn. So far, everything's been going excellently in my opinion. It has a great (albeit not really unique) story and how they're approaching the script has been enticing. However, the big question mark of this series is the characters. If some characters aren't fleshed out some more, it'll be filled with questions by the end.

You can't really judge this series until it's all completed. It's that type of series.
Dec 13, 2012 10:18 PM
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I feel the series will keep a steady pace, somewhat like Bleach for me. I used to be hyped for it, then it died out. I feel it will be somewhat like that. Unless, it pulls a wild card on me that will make me love all year long. Still, the story(to me) is unique in a way. It is probably the only anime I've seen that is like this, story and action driven. Rather than my usual dose of romances... Yeah, I'm a guy, and I love that fact, but it still feels weird to like it.
Dec 14, 2012 8:10 AM
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we're getting halfway now, the latest eps makes me hyped however it still lacks of character interaction for me. Well being greedy can destroy the charm (since it's mystery/action) so I won't complain, but I do hope for more. I don't demand romance, but any sort of development will do.

For now I'm still attached to Akane so as long as her character appealing then I'll still watch this series.
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Dec 14, 2012 4:01 PM
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I personally love it, but im not sure if its the sort of thing to appeal to the masses. i really hope it does do well and im hoping for a second season (before the first has finished >.>) just love the setting.
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Dec 14, 2012 4:02 PM

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http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/show.cgi?n=B009PF0920
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Where exactly on those pages does it show the number of preorders? im blind today i swear >.< is it the accumulated points thing? one shows 900 and one about 3000 so that makes ~4000 xD

And is 4000 a lot for the first pre orders? how much did SAO have for its first pre orders?
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well, according to Amazon Stalker, especially after the last few days, estimates are at 4.5k. While that's not bad, its not exactly good either.

Then again, I'm talking about amazon alone. Psycho Pass volume 1 has charted on Animate's top 10 quite a few times, especially in the last 2 weeks. So if its a storefront title, it could maybe add another 1k and sell 5.5-6k.
And DVDs are usually underestimated for series likes these so maybe that might add another 0.5k copies so hopefully it does 6.5 to 7k.
Does anyone here watch K? Or watch its sales? It was estimated to sell less than 2k for its first volume but ended up selling 6k for its first volume. That's 4k more than what it was estimated to do. Let's hope that's the case here. Then it could bring the total, hopefully upto at least 7.5-8k.
But that's being highly optimistic.
But, all the same, DVDS will underestimated without a doubt on stalker so if I have to be pessimistic I'd say it'll sell 4k first week.
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Dec 19, 2012 4:18 PM

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I hope it sells well
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by preorder you mean it hasn't started its actual selling, right?
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Dec 19, 2012 7:02 PM

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Ya people are giving good advice so far especially phoenixalia i really hope it sells well.
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by preorder you mean it hasn't started its actual selling, right?


well, the first volume will be released tomorrow and we'll get rankiings of how well it sold in one week.
Usually,preorders determine how well a series will sell. Not always though. Which is why I said it could also be a storefront title, people buying it on release day.

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Ya people are giving good advice so far especially phoenixalia i really hope it sells well.


no problem. :) but you shouldn't thank me. thank jmal. He's the one who taught me all of this. I hope it sells well too. I have nothing against moe, I enjoy a few moe shows infact, but series like this one are hard to find so if this sells well it'll encourage other studios to animate something more shows like this one.
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Dec 20, 2012 3:29 AM

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Oh and moe has nothing to do with quality of story a series has.


this depend of how its used, because we have many shows that rely on this or are at least 60% of this and lacks content of a good writing.

as about the sales, well, its less than 10% of the anime, but im afraid that will influence other volumes to sell almost the same.
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I've been doing my damnedest to try and get word out about this series with my anime friends on this side of the Pacific. This is one of the best cyberpunk animes I've seen since GITS:SAC. It's not as good in the futuristic technology department but it is MUCH more of a mindfuck series.

Although, sales will have to do well in Japan first for their to have any hope of selling over here so here's hoping Japan likes the series...
Dec 20, 2012 11:38 AM

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I dont think its gonna sell insanely well, but i think they will make a fair profit from it. although the sales might shoot up after it ends, it seems like a show that will have a very good end and could draw many fans that way. i hope anyway, id like more as i love this show :)
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I don't think it'll sell well too, since series is so dark and definetely not for watchers who demand entertainment and funny ones. I believe this kind of genre sells more in western continents?
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Dec 21, 2012 1:16 AM

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Stalker has it at about 5k preorders.

We'll see how it goes.
Dec 21, 2012 1:30 AM
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If it continues to be as decent/good as ep 10 and 11, then it might do well.
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If it continues to be as decent/good as ep 10 and 11, then it might do well.


Would you say it's worth a watch right now? Thinking about picking this up.
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Z-flame said:
If it continues to be as decent/good as ep 10 and 11, then it might do well.


Would you say it's worth a watch right now? Thinking about picking this up.


We just got our "wham!" episode (11), so at least I'd think you should give it a try.
Dec 21, 2012 4:16 AM
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I hope this show will be success after it ends with 22 episodes & see how it goes.
Dec 21, 2012 4:49 AM

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Well it's a Production I.G. Sci-Fi anime so I expect it to do well. And so far it has been great and way better than overrated SAO.
Dec 21, 2012 5:38 AM
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Well it's a Production I.G. Sci-Fi anime so I expect it to do well.


Yeah, but Guilty Crown has never lived up my expectations to me despite some unexplained stuff but I rarely watched GITS Stand alone complex & Break Blade OVA but lots of Kuroko No Basket which it was sports-themed anime.
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Ragix said:
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If it continues to be as decent/good as ep 10 and 11, then it might do well.


Would you say it's worth a watch right now? Thinking about picking this up.


Yes i would say it is, episode 11 was pretty damn awesome ^_^ unless you hate waiting for the next weeks episode because you will definitely want to see more after you catch up, given that you are into that stuff and like it :)
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well, according to rankings, after epsiode 10 there was a small bump in rankings and after episode 11, rankings for volume 1 really went up. its in the top 100 right now.
Volume 2 was also in the top 100 temporarily. There's still a month till release time for volume 2 so that's a good thing. Volume 2 is also in the top 10 on animate. Volume 1 as well.

Oricon rankings(not sales rankings btw) show Psycho Pass Volume 1 with rank 18 on the 20th(of this month) and on sale day(21st of this month) it went up to rank 12. I think that's a good sign.
If it's a storefront title, then hopefully it's rank will go up on the 22nd of this month. If that happens, it'll do reasonably well.

It's currently 1 place under To Love Ru Darkness' Volume 1 in rankings(to think an ecchi show got better rankings than this. :/)

Damn, I really want this show to do well.
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I don't think people want to see Tsunemori suffering and going crazy in bluray quality. If you do, you are one sick guy or maybe rich and wants to spend some money for Urobuchi's electric bills.
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I don't think people want to see Tsunemori suffering and going crazy in bluray quality. If you do, you are one sick guy or maybe rich and wants to spend some money for Urobuchi's electric bills.


I would want to see it in Bluray quality.

what's wrong with it? I don't see anything wrong with it. Then I could say guys buying Bluray's of To Love Ru are sick for wanting to watch girls' panties fall down and see boobies. I could say they are sick for wanting to see that.
Of course, I don't think it's sick. Every person has different interests and hobbies.
Same case with seeing Akane going crazy and suffering really.
And I don't think a person who likes this anime likes for seeing Akane going crazy.
At least, I'm not. I watch it because it represents something I've believed in for a while: no matter how much we invent, we destroy. no matter how many new medicines we discover, we always will have new diseases. no matter how much we try to completely eliminate evil, we can't. Evil, sadness, hopelessness, fear etc. can only be beaten down for a while before it comes up again.
And I feel this anime portrays these feelings of mine in a worthy fashion.
just my opinion. *shrugs*
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Ragix said:
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If it continues to be as decent/good as ep 10 and 11, then it might do well.


Would you say it's worth a watch right now? Thinking about picking this up.


Yes i would say it is, episode 11 was pretty damn awesome ^_^ unless you hate waiting for the next weeks episode because you will definitely want to see more after you catch up, given that you are into that stuff and like it :)


Just started and caught up. It's pretty good.(Especially those last two episodes.) Now I can't wait for more.

Now to go back on topic I think it will be successful. It's got its dark-side and it's done pretty tastefully. I like the whole concept of this psycho-pass thing and it kind of makes me think about it. While everyone is living with the system thinking it's supposed to bring them "happiness" in my eyes it just looks like chaining someone down from letting them discover themselves and experiencing life how we do. I also kind of figured that with that sort of technology something wouldn't go well.(Which episode 11 displayed wonderfully.)

Can't really determine without seeing the sales numbers, but being someone who has rarely watched any sci-fi stuff like this it gave me a pretty good impression. So hopefully it will do well.(I think the more dark-side to this is what pulled me in being a huge fan of anime/manga like Berserk and Sun-ken Rock.)
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Ok, so sales are out:

DVD:

*1, 28,166 *,*28,166 Kuroko no Basket Fan Disc
*5, *8,805 *,**8,805 Kuroko no Basket vol.6
12, *2,428 *,**2,428 Hakuouki Reimeiroku vol.4 Limited Edition
14, *2,142 *,**2,142 Hanayaka Nari, Waga Ichizoku: Kinetograph vol.1 Limited Edition
17, *1,885 *,**1,885 Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai! vol.1
28, *1,183 *,**1,183 Psycho-Pass vol.1


As you can see, the BD didn't make it to the Bluray List. But the DVD barely made it. It sold 110 more copies than what it was estimated to do.
This...isn't good news. If this is so, then the BD probably did the same on BD that is, 3,500 copies. We'll probably get the sales figures for it's BD in a few days though.
And I guess the total will only be 4.7k. 5k at the most.
Gosh, I can't believe this.
I would have thought that this amazing show would sell 10k.
Not to mention, the two shoujos this season also sold like crap.
Almost all the shows I loved to death are getting really bad sales in Japan. The good shows never get any love.
Excuse me while I go drown in sadness.
Oh right, before I go maybe I'll give you one small happy piece of news...thought I dunno if it accounts to much. Psycho Pass is out of stock on Amazon.
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Dec 25, 2012 2:10 AM
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^Thx for the info. Hopefully the other volumes do better...

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^Thx for the info. Hopefully the other volumes do better...


yeah i really hope so xD Damn i wish the majority had the same taste as me >.< it annoys me that this genre has a small market compared to other things, would love to see more like this but its just too much of a financial risk most of the time.

I pray that after it concludes the sales go up, guess ill just have to sit tight and hope XD
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Honestly looking at the list you provided i didn't see any good animes up there in terms of sales expect kuroko of course. But that's a rare anime to get the attention it's getting the sports genre has been damn dry lately until the anime rolled in.

I am even surprised to see Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai! with such low sales atm, seriously can't wait to see what blue brings to the table.
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Anime that doesn't cater to the various fetishes, chocked full of fanservice with cute girls doing cute things does not sell well. Madoka was great and Urobuchi's first great anime. The reason it sold well, apart from it being good, was it catered to the majority of modern viewers that like anime.

This anime isn't moe, it isn't full of fanservice, etc. That's why it's not selling well. This is probably the best anime I've seen this year. I really love it, as do most people I know that are watching it. Those that lack an attention span probably don't like it for the same reason they likely do not like Ghost in the Shell.

Regardless, I am very disappointed with the sales figures. I really hoped this anime would encourage further police-themed anime to revive the era where Ghost in the Shell was a huge hit. Sadly, it seems like this anime will do the opposite. Just look at the shows next season - most of them are school-life anime with moe, fanservice, etc. That's the future of anime you're looking at.
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I don't think people want to see Tsunemori suffering and going crazy in bluray quality. If you do, you are one sick guy or maybe rich and wants to spend some money for Urobuchi's electric bills.


There's nothing "sick" about wanting to see Akane suffer. After watching hundreds of anime, movies, etc., I am tired of the cliche nonsense of a nobody becoming a hero of some sort and saving the world and everyone living happy ever after. That stuff was interesting at about 10 years of age. Akane's suffering, her conflicts, etc. are character development. Will she overcome her struggles? Will she succumb to them? Will she, as the opening suggests, go nuts and turn on her former colleagues? That's the kind of material that allows for an interesting anime.

Let's see the flipside of things where everyone is happy and everything goes well with the hero saving the day. The viewer never doubts the hero's success since he or she has plot armor. You *know* that in the end the hero will triumph over the evil of that world (demon lord, dictator, etc.). There's no room for doubting that. In Urobuchi's anime, you don't know what will happen to the hero(ine) or the side characters. That's why I love this so far. You get to see whether or not they can overcome their problems.
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Honestly looking at the list you provided i didn't see any good animes up there in terms of sales expect kuroko of course. But that's a rare anime to get the attention it's getting the sports genre has been damn dry lately until the anime rolled in.

I am even surprised to see Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai! with such low sales atm, seriously can't wait to see what blue brings to the table.


Kuroko was excellent. I agree. Ah but Chuunibyou's BD sold 13k. So don't worry. That was the DVD list I posted.

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Anime that doesn't cater to the various fetishes, chocked full of fanservice with cute girls doing cute things does not sell well. Madoka was great and Urobuchi's first great anime. The reason it sold well, apart from it being good, was it catered to the majority of modern viewers that like anime.


Well, I wouldn't say that. Sometimes, well, almost rarely, they do sell well...like AnoHana. Though I agree with you about Madoka.

This anime isn't moe, it isn't full of fanservice, etc. That's why it's not selling well. This is probably the best anime I've seen this year. I really love it, as do most people I know that are watching it. Those that lack an attention span probably don't like it for the same reason they likely do not like Ghost in the Shell.


Well, the majority of anime which sell well now all have at least one of those things, I have to agree. :( It is really, really sad. The top seller of this show will probably be GirlPan or Chu2koi. I have nothing against them, I'm looking forward to watching them, but I wanted this one to sell as well. This is like in my top 3 anime I've watched this year.

Regardless, I am very disappointed with the sales figures. I really hoped this anime would encourage further police-themed anime to revive the era where Ghost in the Shell was a huge hit. Sadly, it seems like this anime will do the opposite. Just look at the shows next season - most of them are school-life anime with moe, fanservice, etc. That's the future of anime you're looking at.


Times change, bro. Times change. It is a sad but unfortunate fact. Which is why I only watch a handful of shows every season. But hey, next season we still have Hakkenden. Chihayafuru 2,Cuticle Detective Inaba and Zetta Karen Children.
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Well, its sad for the first volumes, even with the optimistic that the others can sell very well, its still sad that didn't become a hit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdHTnpgpLDc

And i agree with you guys, i don't like what animes are becoming, i'll just watch Chihayafuru 2 in the next season, and play VN with the rest of my free time.
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damn only 3,000+ BD sales no wonder the animation quality of Psycho-Pass is not that highly budgeted, the producers are playing it safe because they may have guess it will sell poorly
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i don't like what animes are becoming, i'll just watch Chihayafuru 2 in the next season, and play VN with the rest of my free time.


same with the bolded parts, and watch a lot of old school anime
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damn only 3,000+ BD sales no wonder the animation quality of Psycho-Pass is not that highly budgeted, the producers are playing it safe because they may have guess it will sell poorly


yea. I don't blame them. :/
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ok people. a tiny piece of good news. just got the BD data for Psycho Pass:

2012 12/17~12/23 BD List
-- (25) -- *4,476 *4,476 *1 Psycho-Pass v1
-- (27) -- *3,851 *3,851 *1 Macross 7 BD Box v2
-- (28) -- *3,847 *3,847 *1 Jinrui wa Suitai Shimashita v4
-- (29) -- *3,601 *3,601 *1 Elfen Lied BD Box
-- (31) -- *3,412 *3,412 *1 Muv Luv Alternative: Total Eclipse v4
-- (36) -- *2,741 *2,741 *1 Eureka Seven AO v7
-- (37) -- *2,392 *2,392 *1 Jormungand Perfect Order v1
-- (38) -- *2,298 *2,298 *1 Cardcaptor Sakura BD Box v3
-- (39) -- *2,100 *2,100 *1 One Off v2
-- (44) -- *1,571 *1,571 *1 Rinne no Lagrange season 2 v4
-- (47) -- *1,332 *1,332 *1 Cowboy Bebop BD Box RE
-- (48) -- *1,327 *1,327 *1 Kidou Senshi Gundam AGE v11
-- (50) (1,308)


So if you add DVD + BD that's 5659 copies sold! Say 5.7k! Rejoice people! It may not be 7k or 10k but hey! It was underestimated!

Just once tiny piece of sad news too: the first volume is discounted. Usually, sales for second volumes are much lower if the first was discounted but I follow Stalker and from what I can see it doesn't look like much of a drop. If I had to hope high, I'd say I hope it maintains a 5k average.

So, rest assured, this means this is some profit for the creators.
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This is good considering that this show only gets better over i am guessing it will be very consistent if not growing in sales in the future. The same can be said for gundam in a way they have the oldest demographic of anime watchers to date i think. So you would think the gundam glub would burn and not sell right, nope. Unicorn doesn't even try to appeal tot he mainstream viewers he tells it's own story without the regard of anything outside the fanbase. But look what happens when they made Gundam AGE, fanbase rejected it and the targeted audience children didn't have much interest in it either.

There may be a small demand for animes like this but if that small group continues to come back and grow just maybe. lol That might have been the most optimistic ive ever written.
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It will sell 'OK' but will be completly forgotten in a few months...
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It will sell 'OK' but will be completly forgotten in a few months...


How do you figure? It's doin pretty damn well for itself.
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This is good considering that this show only gets better over i am guessing it will be very consistent if not growing in sales in the future. The same can be said for gundam in a way they have the oldest demographic of anime watchers to date i think. So you would think the gundam glub would burn and not sell right, nope. Unicorn doesn't even try to appeal tot he mainstream viewers he tells it's own story without the regard of anything outside the fanbase. But look what happens when they made Gundam AGE, fanbase rejected it and the targeted audience children didn't have much interest in it either.

There may be a small demand for animes like this but if that small group continues to come back and grow just maybe. lol That might have been the most optimistic ive ever written.


If you target your fanbase you fanbase will always be in it and it can grow but the problem is that the fanbase of anime like Phycho-Pass has received so little from the anime intustry that abandons the medium and shrinks and disappears while the moe-fanservice romance school life fanbase gets so much treatment from the industry that gets stronger and stronger making the industry pay even more attention to the strongest fanbase and it becomes a vicious circle that ends up with only one or two kinds of fans mostly otaku anime-girl lovers and shoujo fangirls.
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If it's frim Urobutcher, it'll sell.
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