Japan's Weekly Blu-ray & CD Rankings for May 21 - 27

articuzwolf said:
and LOL @ GC sales, significantly dropping in every volume

jmal said:

Drrr!! is an Aniplex release, and most of those solicited after a certain date are unavailable for order on Amazon due to some Aniplex/Amazon dispute. Stalker isn't ueful for those releases, since it's based entirely on Amazon.

Bakanky said:
how i wish for a second durarara!! season!

dtshyk said:

Blu-ray
*7,581 *7,581 Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai vol.5

*5,723 *5,723 The iDOLM@STER vol.8 Limited Edition

DVD
*2,067 *,**2,067 Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai vol.5

*1,277 *,**1,277 The iDOLM@STER vol.8 Limited Edition

Katapan said:
Pikorin selling more than Hirano Aya? Now that is pretty entertaining to see, and quite unexpected if the corresponding NINKI was anything to go by.

The KuroBas character songs are slaying! The series is definitely shaping up to be a pretty nice hit - nothing huge, we're probably looking at 10-k BD/DVD combined, but even that much should be slightly better than what the producers originally expected. At this rate, a second season might just be a matter of when.

jmal said:

It won't hit 10k, based on current rankings. It has been placing better than I expected, so at best it could get around the 5-6k range combined, but no more than that unless it suddenly has an explosive surge of interest, and quite possibly less.

jmal said:

Not sure exactly what you mean, but the production committee behind an anime will include a music distributor as well, so decent music sales are positive for at least part of the committee, yes. It'll have no effect on the anime's DVD/BD sales though.

dtshyk said:


Single CD
*7, 24,914 24,914 Haiyore! Nyaruko-san "Taiyo iwaku Moeyo Chaos"

jmal said:

It won't hit 10k, based on current rankings. It has been placing better than I expected, so at best it could get around the 5-6k range combined, but no more than that unless it suddenly has an explosive surge of interest, and quite possibly less.

BigOnAnime said:
Well I'll be damned, Amazon Stalker underestimated Durarara!! by 2,000 units. Our chances at a second season of Durarara!! get even better.

mikhailn said:


(」・ω・)」Ooh!(/・ω・)/ Nyaa!

jmal said:

Anything that makes money for the production committee (the group of companies investing in and overseeing the production and distribution of a show and its related goods) is good; whether 5-6k character song albums are enough to justify a sequel is another question.

Oricon covers hundreds if not thousands of retailers. Amazon is just one of many. I doubt they cover most if any direct sales through distributors, but nobody buys that way anyway.

This has no effect on Stalker's estimates though, because Stalker is not estimating sales at Amazon, they're estimating overall Oricon reported sales with on a formula that correlates the Amazon ranking to actual sales based on historical sales trends. We have no idea what percentage of sales Amazon accounts for with any given release, but they're big enough that their rankings are usually at least fairly indicative of how a show is selling in the market as a whole.

mikhailn said:


(」・ω・)」Ooh!(/・ω・)/ Nyaa!

morshuwarrior said:
The Zeta Gundam movies got the Blu-ray treatment? Awesome!

BigOnAnime said:
I wonder how big the dropoff will be come volume 11. Will it sell about 2,000 copies total (DVD+BD)?

dtshyk said:
Single CD
25, *5,424 *5,424 Phi Brain: Kami no Puzzle 2 "Now or Never"
31, *4,103 *4,103 Hyouka "Madoromi no Yakusoku"
34, *3,842 *3,842 Eureka Seven AO "Escape"
36, *3,662 24,507 Mobile Suit Gundam AGE "Real"
40, *3,398 25,900 Accel World "Chase the world"
42, *3,168 14,258 Tsuritama "Tsurezure Monochrome"
44, *3,059 12,794 Accel World "→unfinished←"
46, *2,901 *2,901 Shining Hearts: Shiawase no Pan "Kokisekai" "Fuwaffua no Maho"
50, *2,530 *2,530 Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon Character Song vol.2 Aoi Kimi

Album CD
*5, 13,345 13,345 Aquarion Evol "Eve no Shihen"
*9, *6,888 *6,888 Okamoto Nobuhiko "Palette"
10, *6,545 *6,545 Durarara!! Character Song Collection
12, *5,754 *5,754 Hirano Aya "Fragments"

It will stabilize eventually, probably around 5-6k a volume or dropping 50-60% from Vol. 1 to the end.

dtshyk said:
BD
*2, 17,452 17,452 Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon vol.6 Limited Edition
*5, *7,581 *7,581 Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai vol.5
*6, *6,549 *6,549 Highschool DxD vol.3
*8, *5,610 *5,610 Ano Natsu de Matteru vol.3 Limited Edition
11, *4,789 *4,789 Guilty Crown vol.5 Limited Edition
12, *4,770 *4,770 Inu x Boku SS vol.3 Limited Edition

DVD
*5, *4,630 *,**4,630 Inu x Boku SS vol.3 Limited Edition
*9, *2,225 *,**2,225 Highschool DxD vol.3
11, *2,067 *,**2,067 Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai vol.5

CD
*7, 24,914 24,914 Haiyore! Nyaruko-san "Taiyo iwaku Moeyo Chaos"
14, 11,548 11,548 Haiyore! Nyaruko-san "Zutto Be with you"
40, *3,398 25,900 Accel World "Chase the world"
44, *3,059 12,794 Accel World "→unfinished←"
50, *2,530 *2,530 Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon Character Song vol.2 Aoi Kimi

I was comparing it to other series. I explicitly compared to Haganai in an earlier post, and I looked at others while I was at it. I didn't just come up with "it's a larger drop than usual" out of thin air - I follow this stuff every week. But I wasn't going to spend an hour or two compiling all the data for a forum post, since that seemed like overkill (and I am at work after all =P).

But the best way to compare would be to look at shows that, say... sold about 5k average or more (low sellers fluctuate a lot since every sale counts comparatively more), ranked every volume (otherwise vol to vol comparisons become meaningless), didn't have a heavily discounted first volume (since that skews things a lot) and came out in the past three years or so (just to compare apples to apples). All the better if the target audience is the same (teen to 20-something males, i.e. core otaku) as well.

I already did Haganai, but many others meet the criteria: Amagami SS, Angel Beats!, BakaTest, Bakemono, Denpa Onna, Dog Days, Freezing, GA Art Design, HSotD, Hanasaku, Hayate S2, HidaSketch***, Hyakka Ryouran, Idolmaster, Infinite Stratos, Kampfer, Katanagatari, K-ON!/!!, Madoka, Penguindrum, Mayo Chiki, OreImo, and I don't feel like going through any more of the alphabet. But take your pick of any of those - almost all of them dropped less, often much less, and none particularly worse.

I don't think GC did itself any favors by being 11 discs, because that increases consumer attrition even though it does mean you make more money from those who stick around because it costs so much more to complete it.

You said my comparison was "myopic" for not making an adequate comparison. So I took some time to do so. Nothing more or less.

Two very different things here: whether it's significant and whether it warrants jeering.

If the data indicated that sales had not dropped significantly, I would have said so.

dtshyk said:
13, *4,662 *4,662 Natsume Yuujinchou Shi vol.4 Limited Edition
*1, 10,186 *,*10,186 Gintama' vol.11 Limited Edition
27, **,619 *,***,619 Chihayafuru vol.6

dtshyk22 said:
*6,239 *6,239 Kuroko no Basket Character Song series vol.3 Ryota
24, *5,915 *5,915 Kuroko no Basket Character Song series vol.1 Tetsuya
25, *5,424 *5,424 Phi Brain: Kami no Puzzle 2 "Now or Never"
30, *4,130 *4,130 Kuroko no Basket Character Song series vol.2 Taiga
31, *4,103 *4,103 Hyouka "Madoromi no Yakusoku"
40, *3,398 25,900 Accel World "Chase the world"
42, *3,168 14,258 Tsuritama "Tsurezure Monochrome"
44, *3,059 12,794 Accel World "→unfinished←"

I'm curious if you can articulate what it is you actually want to see, or if you'll just repeatedly say "nope that's not enough" until I lose interest in the discussion and go away. I actually find it a genuinely interesting topic, but it'll only be an interesting discussion if you're actually open to its conclusions. If not, let me know and I won't bother.

Since you're still disputing the "significant" part, not just objecting to the jeering, of course it's relevant. My point is, don't reject the truth of their claims just because they're making them in really obnoxious ways. You can certainly reject their attitudes though, and I'll join you in that despite not being a GC fan.

_Yamainu said:

What, is Amazon the only way people can get thier stuff?

RDF2050 said:
Is 6,549 (Highschool DxD vol.3 BD) BD sold actually decent to have a second season?

Hopefully that clears up what I was saying there.