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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- This was a beautiful manga and I'm glad Yuu didn't die. I guess Yuu will always be the "Thug Hunter." I really enjoyed seeing Yuu's growth. Izawa became a pro boxer. Yay. :D |
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| I thought Yuu would move on like Izawa did and the two meet in the finals of the championship match, but I guess that would've been too shonen. XD I guess he decided to stay and be the guide to the lost souls, and being a sort of vigilance control of the streets so nothing goes over the line. (I wonder what his daytime job would be though.) All in all, that was a great series. |
SnowCrasher said: I thought Yuu would move on like Izawa did and the two meet in the finals of the championship match, but I guess that would've been too shonen. XD I guess he decided to stay and be the guide to the lost souls, and being a sort of vigilance control of the streets so nothing goes over the line. (I wonder what his daytime job would be though.) All in all, that was a great series. you sure he wasnt a ghost? tho Mai seemed like she was waiting for someone |
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Great series. Man kinda sucks that Yuu did not go pro and decided to stay on the streets. But still quite satisfying.  |
| ummm, I quite sure he's dead: the way he was drawn (light grey), more ghostlike I find it quite a sad ending |
| a world engulfed in madness, we would have so much fun XD |
| indeed....great manga |
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| Nah he wasnt a ghost, this is a realistic manga. For a bit I wasnt sure either, but what ghosts have stitches? I think he just wanted to disappear off the street and help others like himself. The way they talked was a bit odd, but it can be taken as he couldnt be there with them physically. Plus, his girlfriend looks like shes waiting for someone (as already said). |
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| Yeah I don't think he died otherwise why would they show his stitches? I liked the way it ended, with Yuu becoming a sort of protector of the streets. Maybe he can become what Izawa was to him to that kid we saw. |
| Are you saying he's now the ghost of streets past? XD The lightness of his hair could be that he simply dyed his hair, and Mai seemed to be waiting for him. He couldn't possibly have been killed from a single knife stab by a wimp, and there's the scar too. |
| He is a ghost now? Ahahaha. Oh fuck, you people sure know how to make me laugh. |
| I definitely have superpowers. I can feel it in my balls. |
| He's not actually dead, he only "died" to become a legend, ghost, Batman, whatever. This way he can live a normal life while still being an influence on the streets. |
| Im not sure if he is alive of dead... the way every one was talking ... if he was alive why would he have missed Izawas title match? |
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| It would have been so much better if he'd gone pro. This is just such a waste. I understand why he stayed of course, but its still such a waste :( SnowCrasher said: Was wondering the same thing. Maybe he's working with troubled youths or something? Though it might be hard for him to get the credentials he'd need for that.I wonder what his daytime job would be though. Also wondering why Mai puts up with it. She was definitely against him getting hurt all the time. I'd have thought that she would be fed up by now with him still looking for fights on the streets. |
| After six years......finally over. Man this was a beautiful manga. Please stop the confusion. Yuu isn't dead, i'm not even going to explain why, since it is so obvious if you actually look, read, and understand. But, Yuu is alive and well. |
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| Yuu isn't dead. There's nothing supernatural about this manga. It's a depiction of the streets, that's kind of the point. I think that just because he helped the guy on the street doesn't mean he can't be doing other things at the same time. He might be working to go pro as well, but then acts as a protector on the side. I mean, he can't just be a protector, you can't make a living off that, and he's a highschool drop out so it would be difficult for him to get a proper job. I think he might have been doing as he said, going to different gyms and learning from them before going properly pro. |
| As always, today is the most enjoyable day. |
zenron said: Yuu isn't dead. There's nothing supernatural about this manga. It's a depiction of the streets, that's kind of the point. I think that just because he helped the guy on the street doesn't mean he can't be doing other things at the same time. He might be working to go pro as well, but then acts as a protector on the side. I mean, he can't just be a protector, you can't make a living off that, and he's a highschool drop out so it would be difficult for him to get a proper job. I think he might have been doing as he said, going to different gyms and learning from them before going properly pro. That seems very unreasonable, in the 3 year span if he wanted to go pro, he would be there, at the very least he would be at the stadium watching the fight. It is more likely he has some sort of small, but stable job and is a protector/overseer of the streets. |
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| I hoped Shougo would go out (from prison?) and main 3 be together again. Anyway, it was worth to read. |
 𝓜𝔂𝓐𝓷𝓲𝓶𝓮𝓛𝓲𝓼𝓽 The inner sea of the planet. The platform of the watchtower. From the edge of paradise you shall hear my words. Your story shall be full of blessings. ━Let only those without sin pass. "Garden of Avalon"! |
| Great manga glad I read this is this in english at all? Finally after four years lol. |
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Merue said: I hoped Shougo would go out (from prison?) and main 3 be together again. Anyway, it was worth to read. Guess hoping for a reunion was a bit too much. Never the less, an amazing story. |
| I read the whole thing in <24 hours. Kept reading till the wee morning hours because I couldn't sleep because of the excitement. I can't help feeling the ending was a bit rushed, but thankfully it isn't anything criminally bad. Awesome manga. The people who wrote the summary that appears in all the descriptions of it everywhere should be shot, though. |
| Great manga. Yuu is still alive and kicking. |
| What do you think you're piloting? Great Mazinger? Dangaioh? For Pete's sake, this isn't some robot cartoon whose main character is an autistic kid or some punk. - Kiichi Goto, Mobile Police Patlabor |
| Yuu is very much alive, here's the breakdown: -The guy who stabbed his was a wimp, he couldn't have done much damage and Yuu was able to kick the knife out of his hand immediately after plus he got up and walked all the way to the open street. - Masaki's match already ended when Yuu appears as you can see two girls talking about it in page 14 and one of them tells the other she taped it. - Still on page 14 you can see Mai standing and looking at her watch, she looks like she's waiting for someone but more importantly notice the direction she's facing, then look at the panel right underneath where Yuu is walking towards Mai from the opposite direction. - Yuu is 'white' because he no longer wears black clothing which he used as camouflage before, he's already graduated from the streets and instead of beating those thugs up he just scared them away, he doesn't need to wear black for an advantage as he's that good + it signifies how he went from the dark and low place he was in to a brighter one with so many friends by his side. - You can clearly see his scar with stitch marks in page 20, what's a ghost doing beating thugs with stitch marks on his side? The manga doesn't really lean to supernatural. In fact it has always had him come back after a defeat, the tone overall is a very optimistic one. This chapter especially was all good news as all the bad guys are defeated, Midorikawa gets released, Masaki is champion etc the author was being creative and wanted to end it by making people worry, but my conclusion based on all the previous evidence & the overall tone of the manga leads me to believe that Yuu was very much alive in this last chapter. - Finally, Yuu couldn't possibly have kept doing his old routine for those 3 years anymore, he was going to meet Mai and chanced on the thugs, quickly dealt with it then went to her. Perhaps he isn't with his friends in the ring being pro because he's doing what Masaki used to? i.e. waiting for someone to take his place? That's weakened by the fact that people were talking about his legend and mixing him with other people etc but still.. I like happy endings so that's what happened either way but come on guys, there is too much evidence that he is alive, how could you conclude he died instead:? anyway you interpret this ending, I think it was a rush job or at least not properly executed, tbh that stabbing felt like an attempt to make things more interesting as the fights were getting stale towards the end, I mean Yuu was already a beast and his fight with Masaki wasn't as exciting as the others. This in addition to another gripe I've had from the moment Mai showed up; the story could've been improved a lot by having a solid romance going on even as a side show, but she appears then disappears for months and it's like she never left, they get closer then kind of forget about each other etc, this is difficult to put to words but the romance bits left me unsatisfied. But despite all that, those are just minor points, this manga is really awesome in the end, I couldn't stop grinning whenever Yuu improvised like when he kicked Taka or when Midorikawa went all ""dark arts" on his opponent, it's a good read and I'd recommend it to anyone. |
alcuradJun 12, 2012 1:28 AM
alcurad said: Yuu is very much alive, here's the breakdown: -The guy who stabbed his was a wimp, he couldn't have done much damage and Yuu was able to kick the knife out of his hand immediately after plus he got up and walked all the way to the open street. - Masaki's match already ended when Yuu appears as you can see two girls talking about it in page 14 and one of them tells the other she taped it. - Still on page 14 you can see Mai standing and looking at her watch, she looks like she's waiting for someone but more importantly notice the direction she's facing, then look at the panel right underneath where Yuu is walking towards Mai from the opposite direction. - Yuu is 'white' because he no longer wears black clothing which he used as camouflage before, he's already graduated from the streets and instead of beating those thugs up he just scared them away, he doesn't need to wear black for an advantage as he's that good + it signifies how he went from the dark and low place he was in to a brighter one with so many friends by his side. - You can clearly see his scar with stitch marks in page 20, what's a ghost doing beating thugs with stitch marks on his side? The manga doesn't really lean to supernatural. In fact it has always had him come back after a defeat, the tone overall is a very optimistic one. This chapter especially was all good news as all the bad guys are defeated, Midorikawa gets released, Masaki is champion etc the author was being creative and wanted to end it by making people worry, but my conclusion based on all the previous evidence & the overall tone of the manga leads me to believe that Yuu was very much alive in this last chapter. - Finally, Yuu couldn't possibly have kept doing his old routine for those 3 years anymore, he was going to meet Mai and chanced on the thugs, quickly dealt with it then went to her. Perhaps he isn't with his friends in the ring being pro because he's doing what Masaki used to? i.e. waiting for someone to take his place? That's weakened by the fact that people were talking about his legend and mixing him with other people etc but still.. I like happy endings so that's what happened either way but come on guys, there is too much evidence that he is alive, how could you conclude he died instead:? anyway you interpret this ending, I think it was a rush job or at least not properly executed, tbh that stabbing felt like an attempt to make things more interesting as the fights were getting stale towards the end, I mean Yuu was already a beast and his fight with Masaki wasn't as exciting as the others. This in addition to another gripe I've had from the moment Mai showed up; the story could've been improved a lot by having a solid romance going on even as a side show, but she appears then disappears for months and it's like she never left, they get closer then kind of forget about each other etc, this is difficult to put to words but the romance bits left me unsatisfied. But despite all that, those are just minor points, this manga is really awesome in the end, I couldn't stop grinning whenever Yuu improvised like when he kicked Taka or when Midorikawa went all ""dark arts" on his opponent, it's a good read and I'd recommend it to anyone. *Applaud* |
| Kinda wanted Shougo to be out already so we could have an ending with all 3 together, but this was still a really nice conclusion to a great manga. |
| Amazing manga. One of my favorites now and Yuu didn't die. I wanna see Yuu and Masaki fight for the championship. :D |
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Murc said: konpachi said: Nah he wasnt a ghost, this is a realistic manga. For a bit I wasnt sure either, but what ghosts have stitches? I think he just wanted to disappear off the street and help others like himself. The way they talked was a bit odd, but it can be taken as he couldnt be there with them physically. Plus, his girlfriend looks like shes waiting for someone (as already said). As much as I want to believe that he survived, I really don't think he did. Start by looking at the end of chapter 181, after he was stabbed. His life on the streets flashes through his mind, then we see his bloody footprints leading toward the light. He speaks of what his Holyland really is, like upon death, he reached a moral epiphany. If he truly believed that his Holyland was his friends, then at the end, wouldn't he be with them? When you spoke of page 14, I think his girlfriend was really just listening to the gossip about her brother. Also, this guy that has done all the reading about Yuu's legend, needed Yuu to be there at that time in order for him to also find his Holyland. When Masaki is getting ready to fight, they speak of how they wish Yuu was there, then when Masaki is going out into the ring, he says that he knows Yuu will be watching him. The way they are all acting, it seems like they know that he died. And, if he did survive, wouldn't Masaki know that he's stills dating his sister? It seems like the Author just wanted to show that his spirit lived on, by showing him fight those guys at the end. It's kind of like the way that at the end of the Dragonball series, when Goku Jr and Vegeta Jr are fighting at the world martial arts tournament, Pan looks across the arena and sees Goku enjoying the fight. Both Yuu's spirit, and Goku's spirit were seen doing the things that they enjoyed. Of course this is all my theory. Like I said, I would have rather seen a happy ending where Yuu actually survived and became a vigilante. But, as you said, this is a realistic manga. After the fight, when he told the kid that he wants to meet him again on the streets, he disappears. Where did he go? And how did he just vanish? http://submanga.com/c/161514/30 Maybe you need to check this out. Yuu is too awesome to die by a wimpy blade, also this is a sorta realistic manga, so why would there be ghost? |
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| Awesome manga. The story hit true to me. At a point in my life I was like Yuu, searching for a purpose; I'm on my way getting better. This was a very realistic and emotional manga which is the reason it is so good. Although the ending is unclear, I pray that Yuu survived and is helping people who were in difficult times in their lives, like him. Amazing manga. I hope that someday I will find my own holyland. 8.5/10. |
MastaJSep 18, 2013 10:46 PM
| "When life gives you lemons, make orange juice, then sit back and watch the world wonder how you did it." |
alcurad said: Yuu is very much alive, here's the breakdown: -The guy who stabbed his was a wimp, he couldn't have done much damage and Yuu was able to kick the knife out of his hand immediately after plus he got up and walked all the way to the open street. - Masaki's match already ended when Yuu appears as you can see two girls talking about it in page 14 and one of them tells the other she taped it. - Still on page 14 you can see Mai standing and looking at her watch, she looks like she's waiting for someone but more importantly notice the direction she's facing, then look at the panel right underneath where Yuu is walking towards Mai from the opposite direction. - Yuu is 'white' because he no longer wears black clothing which he used as camouflage before, he's already graduated from the streets and instead of beating those thugs up he just scared them away, he doesn't need to wear black for an advantage as he's that good + it signifies how he went from the dark and low place he was in to a brighter one with so many friends by his side. - You can clearly see his scar with stitch marks in page 20, what's a ghost doing beating thugs with stitch marks on his side? The manga doesn't really lean to supernatural. In fact it has always had him come back after a defeat, the tone overall is a very optimistic one. This chapter especially was all good news as all the bad guys are defeated, Midorikawa gets released, Masaki is champion etc the author was being creative and wanted to end it by making people worry, but my conclusion based on all the previous evidence & the overall tone of the manga leads me to believe that Yuu was very much alive in this last chapter. - Finally, Yuu couldn't possibly have kept doing his old routine for those 3 years anymore, he was going to meet Mai and chanced on the thugs, quickly dealt with it then went to her. Perhaps he isn't with his friends in the ring being pro because he's doing what Masaki used to? i.e. waiting for someone to take his place? That's weakened by the fact that people were talking about his legend and mixing him with other people etc but still.. I like happy endings so that's what happened either way but come on guys, there is too much evidence that he is alive, how could you conclude he died instead:? anyway you interpret this ending, I think it was a rush job or at least not properly executed, tbh that stabbing felt like an attempt to make things more interesting as the fights were getting stale towards the end, I mean Yuu was already a beast and his fight with Masaki wasn't as exciting as the others. This in addition to another gripe I've had from the moment Mai showed up; the story could've been improved a lot by having a solid romance going on even as a side show, but she appears then disappears for months and it's like she never left, they get closer then kind of forget about each other etc, this is difficult to put to words but the romance bits left me unsatisfied. But despite all that, those are just minor points, this manga is really awesome in the end, I couldn't stop grinning whenever Yuu improvised like when he kicked Taka or when Midorikawa went all ""dark arts" on his opponent, it's a good read and I'd recommend it to anyone. People can interpret anyway they want, I don't care. I personally see it this way. |
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| Amazing story! and the ending was superb. |
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