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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- What is going on seriously? Gammon is genius to make a puzzle but he is not good as solving them as making them. Gammon went against Kaito and it seem like he is going to join POG to defeated Kaito. I realize also there going to be another sequel. :) |
Nothing ventured, nothing gained (Girls und Panzer der Film ) / from Nishizumi Miho |
| nice episode but wtf Kaito vs Gammon?? i didnt expect that.. lol |
| Epic turn of events! Did not expect the plot to go this way, Kaito's friends are so disappointing. They should offer support not abandonment. Nonoha is great for sticking around. Cant believe anyone would defect, or even Gammon. Why so much hate for Kaito Jikugawa and that voice changer was cool. The "puzzle" was pretty great with excellent lighting effects. Based on developments, no way they can actually address the actual God Puzzle and God Scrolls in this season, so I guess thats what season 2 will be on. |
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| Gammon, don't become a POG Giver! You know, I actually can understand why Kaito's friends have distanced themselves from him. Kaido hasn't shown much consideration for their feelings in the more recent episodes. He spends too much time brooding over Luke to care much about anything or anyone else. |
CCLocsFeb 5, 2012 8:25 PM
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| Of course Gammon had to lose, to Kaito. No way, the main character could be beat, right. And as a POG Giver, he'll probably lose again. Anyway, pretty weird episode. Everything just went mad, without any reason. |
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| Gammon you bastard. Show finally got better. Nice puzzle Gammon made. SpectreOfYin said: Gammon, don't become a POG Giver! You know, I actually can understand why Kaito's friends have distanced themselves from him. Kaido hasn't shown much consideration for their feelings in the more recent episodes. He spends too much time brooding over Luke to care much about anything or anyone else. Kaitos friends are distancing themselves away from Kaito cause they are afraid of getting hurt. Cubik, Ana and Gammon almost in the previous episodes. They think he is a selfish bastard that cares about nothing besides puzzles. They think he is emotionless when the armhand is being used. |
| I was wondering when the betrayal would come, and here it is. |
It's not breaking in if the door is unlocked. |
| You didn't expect this turn of events? Are you for real? C'mon, what happened in ep16 was the metaphorical last straw that was obvious for all to see a mile away. And I said as much in that ep thread, yet some were quick to accuse me of being a Kaito hater. Haha, yeah, riiiight. What we have right now is nothing more than logical continuation of all the things that kept piling up for several episodes now. Kaito's friends distanced themselves from him not because they're afraid of getting hurt (didn't you realize that Gammon, for example, put his life on the line in that Gusha puzzle in Venicia for no reward? Or that he was seriously prepared to die, fighting Kaito in his own puzzle this episode? Or Cubic, who persevered despite a very tangible risk to get blown to smithereens?) They distanced themselves from Kaito because he pushed them away with his attitute and obsessiveness over Rook and the past. Ana plainly said it, 'The sun has gone too far in pursuit of the Moon, its path is dark and we can't follow.' Gammon was bound to turn on Kaito with Kaito's asswipe attitude towards him and the others lately. Gammon is a person of action, and, despite everything, has a pretty strong sense of justice, so it's only natural he could not sit on his hands when the situation was deteriorating so quickly (not just Kaito, but all those with close connections to Kaito are outright in danger), and Kaito was only moping around, showing no signs of doing anything to change or even acknowledging the situation. As Gammon is fiery and charges straight ahead in everything he does, his response was bound to be extreme. And now Kaito's getting some long overdue retribution for his egotism and ignorance of everybody's feelings except for his own. Gammon's serious about becoming a Giver for the POG, and it looks like Kaito's gonna have another BSOD - this time, rightly so. And one more time: if you wanna accuse me of being a Kaito hater, don't bother. It's nothing more that a narrow minded approach to my words, not worth to comment on, and I regard it as such. To begin with, if I really hated the MC of this anime, I woulda dropped it long ago. Simple as that. Hell, I even bought 3 volumes of the manga and read it (was horribly disappointed with it, though). But if said mc is completely in the wrong, I wil say as much. |
CGFeb 5, 2012 10:23 PM
| ったく、嫌な世の中だよ。 |
| Gammon is so bad ass. He is my fav character in this series. I am a little sad he is joining the POG but I still think it will be epic. I always enjoy this show more when Gammon is solving a puzzle. |
| This was retarded. Sure Kaito is busy with Rook, but is it strange? It's all like it's Kaito's fault, which it obviously isn't. Sorry, but this is stupid. It's true that Kaito should do something but come now, if anything his so called friends should stick with him, like nonoha. |
TheUniqueReaperFeb 6, 2012 5:16 AM
| Indeed weird turn of events. Gyamon always was irritated by Kaito, but for him to actually 'turn evil'... Next week the 'butler' Bishop gets action time and races against Gyamon. |
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| WTF is going on? Seriously Gammon? This show starts be weird. Anyways, his little sister was cute, voiced also by Ayana Takenatsu and all. Didn't also expect Gammon to be puzzle maker for a magazine with a secret name. Anyways, it's nice to also see more Elena. She is just so cute, especially in this episode :DD Can wait for the next episode, seems like Kaito is just getting more and more insaner... |
>tfw Youtube can't let me have nice things  |
| Not going to lie, if when Gammon and Kaito face off again (which they inevitably will) Kaito looses, i will kick the nearest person to me. Personally, i think Gammon is being a bit of a douche, and very annoying. Its hardly Kaito's fault that they all keep on following Kaito into dangerous puzzles. They didn't have to follow, but they always insisted on going. It seems to me that Gammon's reason for going against Kaito is jealousy as he got orpheus's armband, and was specially chosen by the P.O.G. Also, Gammon doesn't seem to be taking Kaito into consideration too much, its not like he has just been betrayed, and almost killed by his best friend, been told that his parent were not his parents, and were actually part of the P.O.G, and that he has been forced to relive the bad memories of his parents death... Yeah, just my opinion, but i think Gammon was a bit of a douche this episode |
| I like it. :o Gammon enemy. |
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| Gammon is better puzzle maker than solver, and Gammon's sister is not really main. lol @ idol girl, who knows about him submitting puzzles in the magazine. Even Anna is not gathering anymore, just like POG/Luke is planning. Even Gammon joins POG. |
I ♥ Two Syaorans from Tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE and TRC!!! |
| WTF... it felt like putting last few episodes in a thrash can. |
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| Uhmmmmmmm, Gammon... are you a moron or..? >______> No further comment. |
| What is this I don't even... I seriously thought I missed one episode. Just how did things turn out like they did? I mean, Ana, Gyamon and Cubic were always like "we follow Kaito everywhere, no matter what" and now... what is this?? I was very disappointed with this episode, I actually can't find any acceptable explanations for this turn of events. It was purely illogical and inconsistent in my opinion. |
| Noooo Gammon..my favorite character wants to be like an anti-hero. Gammon bby whhhhyyy T__T |
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KoizumiRisa said: What is this I don't even... I seriously thought I missed one episode. Just how did things turn out like they did? I mean, Ana, Gyamon and Cubic were always like "we follow Kaito everywhere, no matter what" and now... what is this?? I was very disappointed with this episode, I actually can't find any acceptable explanations for this turn of events. It was purely illogical and inconsistent in my opinion. I am having the same problems, the pacing is awkward to say the least. I mean, there should have been more forshadowing in the past few episodes.... |
| Steel Ball Run anime when? |
| apparently real men fight by giving and solving each others puzzle. it felt unnatural for Cubic and Ana to ditch him this was pretty stupid for Gyamon who is still my favorite character. maybe Kaito is emotionless with the armband and the way the POG trained him but why would he join them? after the last few episodes and seeing the stuff with the principle it makes no sense. he always wanted to be a solver not a giver. that was a weird puzzle too. |
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| Ehhhh...I'm kind of disappointed with the recent developments. Seems out of character for the guy. He's silly and, yeah, Kaito has been known to piss him off in the past, but to go this far? =\ |
| Gammon wanting to join the POG... I didn't expect that. |
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| why they had to mess up FukuJun's character? T.T or he really has some sort of plan..? |
YOU'RE GONNA CARRY THAT WEIGHT SEE YOU, SPACE COWBOY... |
| That sure is an interesting character twist! Pretty nice development though. |
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| It was a very good episode with interesting puzzle as well. But i kinda saw that Damon will became a Giver in POG, like it was not exactly hiding it either through out the series. But tbh i want the gang back together... |
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