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| <strong>THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.</strong><br />---------------------------------------- <br /><br />........Makoto and Sekai can both die that is all. >_< |
| Bleh. I don't know. This series doesn't look like it's going to end out so good... This was all too predictable -_- Like I mentioned before, the relationship between Makoto, Sekai, and Katsura is just too cliche. You see these kind of relationships all the time in high school. I was hoping for something more unique, and more dramatic. But I'll keep watching the series since it's not that long :P |
melancholy said: Bleh. I don't know. This series doesn't look like it's going to end out so good... This was all too predictable -_- Like I mentioned before, the relationship between Makoto, Sekai, and Katsura is just too cliche. You see these kind of relationships all the time in high school. I was hoping for something more unique, and more dramatic. But I'll keep watching the series since it's not that long :P It's based off a mediocre H-game, were you really expecting a lot? XD. Who knows, maybe we'll get one of the good endings from the game. |
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| Wow.. I never thought I'd watch a show were it seemed like the creators wanted me to hate 2/3 of the main characters. |
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| I can't believe all you people and the whole "characters should die", I mean, yeah he's cheating and that's horrible... but to kill him because of it? I dunno... I will say I find it slightly refreshing to have a male lead that isn't a complete wuss. I know he's a horrible guy, but it's different than the norm in anime which is nice. =P |
iwubanime said: I can't believe all you people and the whole "characters should die", I mean, yeah he's cheating and that's horrible... but to kill him because of it? I dunno... I will say I find it slightly refreshing to have a male lead that isn't a complete wuss. I know he's a horrible guy, but it's different than the norm in anime which is nice. =P You mean "all you people" as in itainteazy? I just said I don't like Sekai or Makoto. Seriously.. it's like Sekai used Katsura to sort of ready Makoto for a relationship or something. Then Makoto after struggling with Katsura being so nervous quickly dumps her even though she's fine with the relationship now. That last scene with Katsura's little sister and herself just made me start to hate Makoto. |
MistaNightAug 3, 2007 5:24 PM
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| wow,Makoto is really greedy,he already has kotonoha,now he going to dump her and go to sekai,mokoto is really an asshole....the more i watch,the more i hate makoto...playing with sekai and kotonoha feeling....btw,at the ending,did makoto making love with sekai??? |
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iwubanime said: yeah he's cheating and that's horrible... but to kill him because of it? I dunno... Sure why not? :D iwubanime said: I will say I find it slightly refreshing to have a male lead that isn't a complete wuss. You're saying he isnt? He doesn't want to be with Kotonoha because she doesn't move as fast as he wants and he cant just say that to her. He doesn't talk to her about anything he just complains to Sekai and cant do anything on his own. He's a wuss and a would be rapist if Sekai wasn't such a slut >_> |
| Wow Makoto is too indecisive, Kotonoha is my favorite character and she is being played with by that damn Makoto:P, it seems she is slowly getting over her insecurities and starting to open up more but it's too late Makoto is already tired of her |
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| I feel a bit more sorry for Kotonoha now.. she finally likes him.. and now he's over her. meh at this show |
| I've noticed that there's a lot of anti-Makoto sentiment all over internet but even if he is an unsympathetic character, he most definitely seems the most real. It seems a lot of people who hate him seem to do so perhaps out of a jealousy of his situation, coupled with the "if I were him" daydreams....it seems some guys are forgetting what it's like being a guy. Twiffle said: As well, Makoto's an ordinary teenage boy. Why do people hate him so much? To those of you who hate him for his sexual needs and immature ways of dealing with them, do you hate ALL precocious teenagers? 'Cause I think that's just sad. Up until now, the only character I could find myself hating was Kotonoha, because she was just so annoying with her shyness, but now I like all the characters. I'd have to agree with a lot of what you've said. I also couldn't find myself liking Katsura in the first few episodes because of her odd sense of self-possession but since episode 4, she's finally realizing her priorities as someone in a relationship. As for Makoto... |
parkingrulesAug 6, 2007 11:07 AM
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Twiffle said: As well, Makoto's an ordinary teenage boy. Why do people hate him so much? To those of you who hate him for his sexual needs and immature ways of dealing with them, do you hate ALL precocious teenagers? 'Cause I think that's just sad. Yes maybe.and how is what Makoto does considered ordinary? I dont know anyone like that. Maybe thats normal in whatever world you live in.. Twiffle said: Maybe I'm just a future slut, Upgrade to probable :| |
| Lmao guys, get a freaking grip. I don't think it's just because Sekai 'moves' faster than Kotonoha. Sekai and Makoto know each other for much longer, right? They spent countless days together and even if they didn't mean to go it that way, they got to know each other so damn well. The difference between that and what Makoto experiences with Kotonoha is huge. I'm sure some of you know what I'm talking about. And that 'this character and that character need to die' crap is something you always see in anime discussions. It's fine to not like a certain character, but just saying s/he needs to die makes you look weird. About the episode, the first half at the pool was damn funny. I don't remember laughing at a School Days scene as much as I did this time. Looking forward to more Conclave subs. |
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| What Makoto does isn't normal... only because he's incredibly stupid and abnormally honest in some situations. High school is full of people like him, they're just not quite as stupid or open. As far as the whole Kotonoha/Sekai thing goes... I can't figure it out. I can't figure out what Kotonoha likes about Makoto. Makoto/Kotonoha is a horrible pairing, seriously. Makoto/Sekai makes a lot more sense, and not [just] because "she's a slut." It's a much more realistic pairing (what? realism in MY School Days?). But hey, that's why this anime is fun. It's completely illogical and ridiculous most of the time. Having big debates or whatever over a series like this is pointless. |
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| Sorry, but even as a guy, I dislike Makoto with great intensity. I hate womanisers in real life, so I dislike him in this anime. I wouldn't go as far as to say that he deserves to die, but he definately needs to be taken down a peg or two. And Sekai? She likes to point out that Kotonoha is fragile and insecure, but she's not exactly "at one with everything" herself. There's a lot of explosive ingredients being thrown into the cooking pot right now, so I think it's going to bubble right over the edge... I also agree with Twiffle. People, please be civillised, there's no need to make personal attacks against people who disagree with you. The purpose of a discussion is to hear other people's opinions. If you disagree, say why you disagree (in a mature manner), it makes a discussion much more interesting. Although on that note, Neverender also has a point. There's only so much you can look into an anime like this. But we can sure as hell try to push it! |
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| uhmmm....... NO DOES NOT MEAN YES. makoto really bothers me now. he's like a 13 year old teenage boy who cant think from his head, only his dick. Just because sekai will do more with him he "loves" her. katsura is my favorite character. she is just nice, has SELF RESPECT (unlike sekai), and is really trying to deal with this whole "relationship" thing. makoto needs to stop watching the porn and realize that relationships dont start off with sex, it builds UP to it. and depending on the girl it takes either a long or short time. i'm justy completely frustrated with the main character. personally i dont mind womanizers, especially in a show. yeah, i'd hate them.. but not as much as i hate makoto right now. hes just a perverted loser. he doesnt know how to charm women to get with him. he just FORCES himself onto them. almost like a sketchy rapist. dude.. makoto is borderling rapist AHHH.. the sad part is he doesnt even have the personality to make it seem somewhat acceptable. nope, his personality is a piece of crap, and he cant think with his brain , only his penis. he really needs to grow up. they're in what.. highschool? this isnt middle school people... D= |
| Alright. So Makoto's a douche. I'm not going to be dishonest, I partially hate him for the situation he's in. "I got a hot moe girlfriend but because she doesn't put out quickly enough I'll go with this easier girl" >_>; But this is just an anime, and reading too much into it (especially considering it came from an h game) probably won't get ya anywhere. As far as I can see, Makoto is a bit perverted, I would _not_ go as far as saying he's a rapist (or potential rapist). He just seems like a guy who listens to the wrong head sometimes if you get what I'm saying haha. There are a ton of them in highschool's all over the world :P Sekai, I feel she doesn't have too much blame with the situation how it is. She really liked Makoto, and not betraying Katsura was important to her... Shit happens I guess. I just feel sorry for Katsura :( she was just starting to open up more with Makoto. OH another thing that came to mind during the past 5 episodes, I think Makoto is losing interest in Katsura because the relationship is higher maintenance then he expected, not just because she "won't put out". He seemed exasperated with figuring out if "the mood was right" trying to get to know Katsura better, dealing with her energetic little sister. Etc. Sekai on the other hand is someone who he has an easy relationship with. Everything comes easy with Sekai (lol). But I really do think that Makoto does have some real feelings for Sekai, and I believe it's not 100% lust. That still doesn't excuse what he's doing though. :P Sorry for the tl;dr but school days seems to attract rant-like posts hahaha |
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itainteazy said: <strong>THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.</strong><br />---------------------------------------- <br /><br />........Makoto and Sekai can both die that is all. >_< No, they can both be tortured, then they can die. |
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| I agree with OranSolus, I hate Makoto because I hate guys that are womanizers. That's the main reason I hate Makoto. I understand Makoto's feeling as a guy, he can't help it. But it's just that HIS COMPLETE IGNORANCE ABOUT THE GIRL'S FEELING makes me somehow frustrated to him. Anyone can complain that he's super-pervert and hate him that way, but that's what a guy is. Although, there's some that isn't really so much a pervert. But there's no guy here in the word that don't think perverted stuffs even a little bit. It's just that Makoto is super-perverted-don't care about the feelings of the girl person. That's why I hate Makoto. He doesn't care about the feelings of love as long as he can get what he wants (and that's perverted stuffs). We say that Makoto can die, that really isn't seriously wanting to kill him show-off. But just a mere expression on how we really hate that kind of guy. We just can't stand people like them, so they're better off dead. (just like what KIRA would think about the criminals) Anyway, as cyruz said, this episode also made me laugh for the first half. And made me toki-doki for the second half.. lol! ^_^ |
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| Not only is he cheating hes fucking raping Sekai too. Haha what a toon. He needs to wank more. |
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| Makoto is rapidly becoming my most hated anime character, hope he has a slow and painful death ^_^ I feel sorry for Kotonoha, she's such a nice girl. Too bad she had to fall for a guy who only thinks with his dick =/ |
| I'm on Sekai's side here actually. She and Makoto know each other a lot better and they spent more time together. It inevitable for her to fall for Makoto, it would of happened soon or later so don't blame her. But at the end, it's all Makoto's fault. How can I put it, he is a lazy person? The relationship with Kotonoha is falling mainly because Makoto has found out that that he has to put in more effort than he was expecting. In other words, he is too rushed. <--Fail If Makoto really chooses Sekai, at least break up properly with Kotonoha. It's going to hurt her, but it's better than letting things drag on. tl;dr : Sekai isn't wrong, Kotonoha isn't wrong. Makoto fails at decision making. |
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aero said: I'm on Sekai's side here actually. She and Makoto know each other a lot better and they spent more time together. It inevitable for her to fall for Makoto, it would of happened soon or later so don't blame her. But at the end, it's all Makoto's fault. How can I put it, he is a lazy person? The relationship with Kotonoha is falling mainly because Makoto has found out that that he has to put in more effort than he was expecting. In other words, he is too rushed. <--Fail If Makoto really chooses Sekai, at least break up properly with Kotonoha. It's going to hurt her, but it's better than letting things drag on. tl;dr : Sekai isn't wrong, Kotonoha isn't wrong. Makoto fails at decision making. I don't think I blame Sekai much either. It's mostly Makoto. I feel so bad for Kotonoha because she was finally opening up and stuff-_-, and Sekai just liked him, so not too much hate for her. But I don't know why she even thought of offering "practice", THAT was a bad move, but meh. Boo Makoto! Making Koronoha's sister be excited to play with you D=, so sad. |
| This show is (semi-) typical High School drama. If Sekai hadn't seen the picture Makoto had taken of Kotonoha, then Sekai and Makoto would probably be going out and everything would be just fine. I think Sekai and Makoto are the better couple. They seem more at ease around each other, and being able to let go of pretenses and be yourself is part of what being in a relationship is about. Makoto made a bad choice by *having sex* with Sekai, but revealing his feelings (I think) was a step in the right direction. As for Kotonoha, it would be very difficult (especially for Makoto) to say to her, "Well, we've only been dating for a few weeks, but I've decided that I'm going to dump you for the girl who's been giving me advice on how to date you." |
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| if the game was an indication on anything for this anime, its that the intention was to get us to hate Makoto in order to justify the end. i dont mind the main character since its his role to be hated, and i see that its working for a lot of people. but, the idea of this show is to demonstrate that there are consequences to how we do things with other people, and that betrayal can led to the worst consequence of all: death. |
| I hated the end of this episode... Makoto shouldn't cheat. I feel bad for Katsura. |
selective_yellow said: I feel a bit more sorry for Kotonoha now.. she finally likes him.. and now he's over her. meh at this show Good thing I like Sekai a bit more than Kotonoha. Sekai and Makoto are at fault though, Kotonoha is just an innocent bystander. Either way, I don't like Itou. I don't hate him though, yet... |
| I hate Makoto I hate Sekai Makoto and Kotonoha are good together Makoto and Sekai makes me FURIOUS when they are together >:I |
| Makoto: "I can't help but question Kuruda's taste in men." Oh the delicious irony! |
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CanadaAotS said: Long text I totally agree with this opinion. It's very good!! To tell the truth, all i was thinking while seeing this anime was: This anime is just taking a piece of reality and distorting it, making we hate the characters more then we'd normally do. I also posted a comment in episode 2 discussion linking events to my reality. What i'm saying is that i don't see it with hatred for some character or expecting any punishment for their bad actions. If that's what will come, them come. I'm just enjoying another opinion from other director. I've seen many dramas like that in my country. I'm just expecting to see what's coming next. Then, if i have to hate something forever after the end, it will be their actions, and nothing more then that. I will continuing to recommend this to friends who are looking for something like that. That's all. off-topic |
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cyruz said: Lmao guys, get a freaking grip. I don't think it's just because Sekai 'moves' faster than Kotonoha. Sekai and Makoto know each other for much longer, right? They spent countless days together and even if they didn't mean to go it that way, they got to know each other so damn well. The difference between that and what Makoto experiences with Kotonoha is huge. I'm sure some of you know what I'm talking about. And that 'this character and that character need to die' crap is something you always see in anime discussions. It's fine to not like a certain character, but just saying s/he needs to die makes you look weird. About the episode, the first half at the pool was damn funny. I don't remember laughing at a School Days scene as much as I did this time. Looking forward to more Conclave subs. i agree totally i mean he is a dick for chetaing on her but at the end of the day he rushed into things with kotonoha becuase as a guy he wanted to be with the cute girl he layed eyes on but when he got with her it wasnt what he expected. and becuase of the whole situation where he is always with sekai its impossible not to develop a bond like that once you realise you made a wrong and selfish decision . i think what he is doing is wrong ( cheating ) but i wouldnt class him as a womaniser becuase he doesnt know how to work women i mean he's not confident and he cant pull women he just happaned to come across one who he sat next to in class who helped him get with another he didnt actually do anything . hes a dick but he doesnt deserve to die EDIT : this guy is a complete total douche ....after watching more of the series |
Shin-kunMay 11, 2009 6:07 PM
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Metroid_Ex said: itainteazy said: <strong>THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.</strong><br />---------------------------------------- <br /><br />........Makoto and Sekai can both die that is all. >_< No, they can both be tortured, then they can die. You have problems. |
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| what a fanservice episode... Stupid Makoto, Sekai just asked the right question: "Then why didn't you come to me first?" |
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| ok, i take back what i said after last episode about not entirely blaming makoto, after that episode i blame him more |
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| Not bad, and Makoto is a complete idiot, but I'm still awaiting the pyschological part to this anime. And horror. Surely Kotonoha will extract sweet, evil revenge? |
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| I feel sorry for everyone involved, Makoto the least. Sekai really liked him, and did whatever she could to be with him. I do not think that Makoto is all about lust though, as has been already said, Makoto and Sekai knew each other much better and hung out much more whereas Sekai and Kotonoha only started hanging out after Makoto started liking her. It just seems like Makoto and Sekai had a better friendship to build a relationship from that Makoto and Kotonoha, and plus Kotonoha being high maintenance and Sekai being easy going. It is however stupid how Makoto handled it, he should have never gone behind Kotonohas back. The scene with Kotonoha and her sister was very sad... |
| I did not like this episode. Poor Kotonoha. She's finally warming up to him and their relationship but I guess it was a little too late for Makoto. Dumbest part of this episode is when Makoto confesses to Sekai and then starts groping her. I mean come on. How the hell is that supposed to convey his 'love' for her? That's one of the most shallow betrayals of all time and I can't take this serious anymore because of it. |
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| All I am going to say is : Makoto is realy a PERVERT xD |
| I'm not sure I like this "psychological" type of anime. It just seems so unbelievable that people would act as they do. I guess there are people like that out there somewhere but watching it in this show is just painful... Maybe I shouldn't read the reviews any more. Since I did I've only been anticipating the worst and so far it has lived up to those expectations. I am dreading the end... ...where did I put those rose-colored glasses... |
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| Great episode, finally this anime made me feel some of emotions. i'd like to see next episode, i wonder will Makoto tell Kotonoha about it and what'll be her reaction => |
| Wow, makoto is a total jerk. He should already tell katsura that he's now with sekai. They both just keep playing silent, because Katsura would get angry of course she would. Well how will she feel, when she does find out eh? |
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