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Feb 7, 11:54 PM
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imo what my boys on MAL did with oshi no ko is a crime for eternity, dropping the score this much because of 4 bad chapters was something i really disliked

what y'all think??
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Feb 8, 12:23 AM
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Murilowsky said:
imo what my boys on MAL did with oshi no ko is a crime for eternity, dropping the score this much because of 4 bad chapters was something i really disliked

what y'all think??

So technically speaking you already agreed they are 4 bad chapters since you said it “”
Feb 8, 1:36 AM
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SSSYokai said:
Murilowsky said:
imo what my boys on MAL did with oshi no ko is a crime for eternity, dropping the score this much because of 4 bad chapters was something i really disliked

what y'all think??

So technically speaking you already agreed they are 4 bad chapters since you said it “”

I'm pretty sure he means that it shouldn't drop this much only because of 4 chapters. It's like the people forgot about the rest of the manga and only scored those 4, which is so unfair
Feb 8, 1:45 AM
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i deadass dont understand the hate, i knew it was gonna end like that tbh, i would've rated it higher if it had a few more chapters as it felt a bit abrupt and made me feel empty

still though, people overreacted way too much 💀
Feb 8, 1:46 AM
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MaxAkumax said:
SSSYokai said:

So technically speaking you already agreed they are 4 bad chapters since you said it “”

I'm pretty sure he means that it shouldn't drop this much only because of 4 chapters. It's like the people forgot about the rest of the manga and only scored those 4, which is so unfair

happens all the time, specially with manga

people often forget how much they enjoyed the series because each chapter takes pretty long to release and people only rate it on how they feel right after reading the final few that they remember
Feb 8, 2:40 AM
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i don't remember the score it used to have but this is still a high score. i defended this manga for most of it's run but tbh that final arc wasn't as interesting as i hoped, so it's definitely not underrated is all i can say.
Feb 8, 2:57 AM
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MaxAkumax said:
SSSYokai said:

So technically speaking you already agreed they are 4 bad chapters since you said it “”

I'm pretty sure he means that it shouldn't drop this much only because of 4 chapters. It's like the people forgot about the rest of the manga and only scored those 4, which is so unfair

It's almost like those last chapters quite literally throw away any development Aqua had and ruin the entire story for so many people. You know, just a thought. It didn't have to have a happy end but this sad ending was way too forced, everything was quite literally resolved already and Aqua killed himself for dramatic effect. They had every single piece to put Kamiki at least behind bars and they just didn't. People hate on it this much because it absolutely deserves it, since it doesn't make any sense whatsoever and quite literally contradicts any development Aqua had gone through prior to that. It's just very bad writing that ruins a most of the good before that.
Feb 8, 3:02 AM
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Apart from being only a couple of bad chapters, it also was kind of an obvious ending. The only way Aqua would have survived this story would be if the author had no balls to kill his characters
Feb 8, 3:17 AM
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Only 4? Ought to be 140 to me at least. And I'm surprised the score still hasn't dropped below 7.5 yet.
Feb 8, 5:32 AM

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What was Aka trying to say with OnK even? That Aqua's and Ruby's child will grow up without a father? Shit ending
Feb 8, 7:16 AM
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SSSYokai said:
Murilowsky said:
imo what my boys on MAL did with oshi no ko is a crime for eternity, dropping the score this much because of 4 bad chapters was something i really disliked

what y'all think??

So technically speaking you already agreed they are 4 bad chapters since you said it “”

I'm pretty sure he means that it shouldn't drop this much only because of 4 chapters. It's like the people forgot about the rest of the manga and only scored those 4, which is so unfair
@MaxAkumax yes thats exactly what i meant, thank you for being able to read, lol.
Feb 8, 7:16 AM
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SSSYokai said:
Murilowsky said:
imo what my boys on MAL did with oshi no ko is a crime for eternity, dropping the score this much because of 4 bad chapters was something i really disliked

what y'all think??

So technically speaking you already agreed they are 4 bad chapters since you said it “”

I'm pretty sure he means that it shouldn't drop this much only because of 4 chapters. It's like the people forgot about the rest of the manga and only scored those 4, which is so unfair
@MaxAkumax yes thats exactly what i meant, thank you for being able to read, lol.
Feb 8, 7:18 AM
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MaxAkumax said:
SSSYokai said:

So technically speaking you already agreed they are 4 bad chapters since you said it “”

I'm pretty sure he means that it shouldn't drop this much only because of 4 chapters. It's like the people forgot about the rest of the manga and only scored those 4, which is so unfair

It's almost like those last chapters quite literally throw away any development Aqua had and ruin the entire story for so many people. You know, just a thought. It didn't have to have a happy end but this sad ending was way too forced, everything was quite literally resolved already and Aqua killed himself for dramatic effect. They had every single piece to put Kamiki at least behind bars and they just didn't. People hate on it this much because it absolutely deserves it, since it doesn't make any sense whatsoever and quite literally contradicts any development Aqua had gone through prior to that. It's just very bad writing that ruins a most of the good before that.
@Blahos no because a lot of people dropped when aqua and ruby kissed and yes the ending was bad but it wasnt forced and didnt ruined the whole show

it was always clear that aqua wanted to die and that he would die at the end, just the way he died it was rushed
Feb 8, 7:20 AM
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Only 4? Ought to be 140 to me at least. And I'm surprised the score still hasn't dropped below 7.5 yet.
@kizumi91 silence cult manga reader, nobody likes this type of manga
Feb 8, 7:23 AM
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Kamiki's character wasn't built up to pose as much as a threat to justify that ending, and the last chapter was rushed as hell. The last chapter felt like some recap chapter, super undramatic and rushed, they should've showed us a good scene rather than just hurriedly show us what happened to the rest of the cast via some text boxes. Praying the anime does better.
Feb 8, 7:28 AM
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Kamiki's character wasn't built up to pose as much as a threat to justify that ending, and the last chapter was rushed as hell. The last chapter felt like some recap chapter, super undramatic and rushed, they should've showed us a good scene rather than just hurriedly show us what happened to the rest of the cast via some text boxes. Praying the anime does better.
@canadasnow yes i agree but even so the score should be higher - like 8.6 as it was or at least a 8.54, thats what i am talking about
Feb 8, 8:19 AM
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It didn't drop enough, score deserves to be a lot lower because of that ending. One of the worst endings of all time in Anime and Manga history
Feb 8, 8:26 AM
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It didn't drop enough, score deserves to be a lot lower because of that ending. One of the worst endings of all time in Anime and Manga history
@TheKozas lol bad bait, have u read gotoubun and promised neverland? even death note is worse than this ending, not even counting shingeki no kyojin, that thing was so bad that i felt like crying and the score didnt get bad because of it
Feb 8, 8:38 AM
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Murilowsky said:
@TheKozas lol bad bait, have u read gotoubun and promised neverland? even death note is worse than this ending, not even counting shingeki no kyojin, that thing was so bad that i felt like crying and the score didnt get bad because of it

How do you actually think SNK has worse ending than ONK? Snk was a bit bad but nowhere near Onk ending. Author did a pretty terrible job with the last arc but the ending was just shit on the cake at this point.

Akasaka-sensei did a similar mistake with kaguya-sama too but the Manga being a masterpiece covered it up imo. But Onk was very terrible
Feb 8, 8:39 AM
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it didn't drop by much tho? it's still in the 8 range and that's a pretty good score. as for the drop, I think it's fair. imo by the end, it wasn't nearly as good/enjoyable as the first half. it doesn't help that many (me included) were not satisfied wit the ending
Feb 8, 9:56 AM

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If anything it's still too high, the way it ended pretty much turned most of the story after the very beginning into filler. No character development really mattered and there are no pay-offs for the different character arcs. You could legit read like the first few volumes and then skip to the final one without missing anything that affected the ending.

Not only that but Aqua's "plan" was just plain stupid and made no sense on so many levels. People complained about parts of the final arc in Kaguya being dumb, but since it was a love-comedy it still gets a pass in my book, but as a self-titled more serious mystery that stuiff doesn't fly in OnK. In addition, most twists were just bait as they got never resolved and just served as cliff hangers to keep readers during serialization. In retrospeect just a super shallow series with a nonsensical ending that got hardcarried by great art.

Also no, I don't care whether it's a happy or unhappy ending, before anyone puts any words into my mouth...
Feb 8, 10:24 AM
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Personally, in my opinion, the last arch is not very well done, I won't say that it's terrible, but you can't call it good either. I treat her quite calmly, while I understand both those who liked her and those who didn't like her at all (and because of her, some people's impressions have deteriorated in general). Personally, my impressions haven't changed much because of the last chapters. The end of "Kaguya-sama" is another matter, many people complain about it a lot, but here I don't understand why (exactly the level of complaints). As for me, "Kaguya" has a good ending, personally I am almost completely happy with it, but here everyone has their own impressions, of course, but I don't understand some people who are unhappy with the ending in it at all, unlike onk, here I understand why some are unhappy with the end (but I also understand those who have a different opinion).
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Feb 8, 10:43 AM
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The scores close to what I think it should be now, it was a great manga but man that ending was a letdown
Feb 8, 11:35 AM
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Murilowsky said:
@TheKozas lol bad bait, have u read gotoubun and promised neverland? even death note is worse than this ending, not even counting shingeki no kyojin, that thing was so bad that i felt like crying and the score didnt get bad because of it

How do you actually think SNK has worse ending than ONK? Snk was a bit bad but nowhere near Onk ending. Author did a pretty terrible job with the last arc but the ending was just shit on the cake at this point.

Akasaka-sensei did a similar mistake with kaguya-sama too but the Manga being a masterpiece covered it up imo. But Onk was very terrible
@TheKozas snk was simply worse and for me it isnt even an opinion, oshi no ko is bad but it was kinda expected - like what happened - the way it was made that makes it so bad
kaguya sama is a masterpiece, the ending was bad but its not even close, it just wasnt good enough comparing to the whole story, like we wanted more and he delivered just enough to end it soon
Feb 8, 11:38 AM
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If anything it's still too high, the way it ended pretty much turned most of the story after the very beginning into filler. No character development really mattered and there are no pay-offs for the different character arcs. You could legit read like the first few volumes and then skip to the final one without missing anything that affected the ending.

Not only that but Aqua's "plan" was just plain stupid and made no sense on so many levels. People complained about parts of the final arc in Kaguya being dumb, but since it was a love-comedy it still gets a pass in my book, but as a self-titled more serious mystery that stuiff doesn't fly in OnK. In addition, most twists were just bait as they got never resolved and just served as cliff hangers to keep readers during serialization. In retrospeect just a super shallow series with a nonsensical ending that got hardcarried by great art.

Also no, I don't care whether it's a happy or unhappy ending, before anyone puts any words into my mouth...
@yakisobapan yes but the whole show is good enough and i really didnt think it made everything bad, it wasnt as frustrating as gotoubun that the whole story became bad, it just was too rushed and didnt explain enough, jjk and oshi no ko suffered of the same cause
Feb 8, 11:43 AM
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The scores close to what I think it should be now, it was a great manga but man that ending was a letdown
@SpritezUp its just that the manga has so many good stories and some arcs that are so good and it became worse than bocchi the rock and fma ln

but in the end what matters is if i like it or not, score dont matter anything - and with this comment this whole thread became useless
Feb 8, 11:46 AM
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Murilowsky said:
@SpritezUp its just that the manga has so many good stories and some arcs that are so good and it became worse than bocchi the rock and fma ln

but in the end what matters is if i like it or not, score dont matter anything - and with this comment this whole thread became useless

I absolutely agree that it had PHENOMENAL arcs, I still look at it fondly but you can’t deny the fact that the ending was rushed and was a huge letdown for a series that was as good as it was all the way through. Thats’s why I don’t think it deserves anything more than an 8. That being said 8’s still an awesome score it’s just not a masterpiece score you know what I mean?
Feb 8, 12:22 PM
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@SpritezUp its just that the manga has so many good stories and some arcs that are so good and it became worse than bocchi the rock and fma ln

but in the end what matters is if i like it or not, score dont matter anything - and with this comment this whole thread became useless

I absolutely agree that it had PHENOMENAL arcs, I still look at it fondly but you can’t deny the fact that the ending was rushed and was a huge letdown for a series that was as good as it was all the way through. Thats’s why I don’t think it deserves anything more than an 8. That being said 8’s still an awesome score it’s just not a masterpiece score you know what I mean?
@SpritezUp yes yes i agree absolutely with you

imo it should be a 8.6 but i am a little lax when it comes to score, i just cant see it having a score lower than some manga that are mediocre at best or ones that the fandom carry because it is famous but not good
but i agree with it not being a masterpiece and that it has bad ending and everything said

but that is mal and a grade isnt everything
Feb 8, 12:25 PM
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it is in the end all aka's fault - or manga in general.
i think i can say just like 5 manga with a good ending, and i read a lot of manga

most manga are rushed and it always has the ending that everyone didnt wanted, the author has like 100 possibilities that the fandom wanted to see and 1 the they didnt at all, and it is always that one.
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SweatyFingers said:
MaxAkumax said:

I'm pretty sure he means that it shouldn't drop this much only because of 4 chapters. It's like the people forgot about the rest of the manga and only scored those 4, which is so unfair

happens all the time, specially with manga

people often forget how much they enjoyed the series because each chapter takes pretty long to release and people only rate it on how they feel right after reading the final few that they remember

I'd rate it 3 or 4 if not for the earlier chapters.
Feb 8, 2:24 PM
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@Blahos no because a lot of people dropped when aqua and ruby kissed and yes the ending was bad but it wasnt forced and didnt ruined the whole show

it was always clear that aqua wanted to die and that he would die at the end, just the way he died it was rushed
@Murilowsky Aqua straight up didn't want to die towards the end though, did you even read the entire thing? There was a huge character arc with him actually starting to live and wanting to do so, that's all the development, which was completely thrown out of the window. I'm now convinced that you just have media literacy of a dead seal if you didn't notice that... The ending was absolutely forced, they could've easily gotten Kamiki locked up (they even mention that everything was done in the manga itself), neither of them had to die pointlessly like this. It absolutely does ruin the entire MC and it has next to no consequences except for a few panels at the funeral. It's a terrible ending that literally shits on the most important character development that occured during its entirety...
Feb 8, 4:29 PM
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MaxAkumax said:

I'm pretty sure he means that it shouldn't drop this much only because of 4 chapters. It's like the people forgot about the rest of the manga and only scored those 4, which is so unfair

happens all the time, specially with manga

people often forget how much they enjoyed the series because each chapter takes pretty long to release and people only rate it on how they feel right after reading the final few that they remember

I'd rate it 3 or 4 if not for the earlier chapters.
@0ksid man just dont read it, i dont like fma at all, so i never watched past ep 10
Feb 8, 4:32 PM
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@Murilowsky Aqua straight up didn't want to die towards the end though, did you even read the entire thing? There was a huge character arc with him actually starting to live and wanting to do so, that's all the development, which was completely thrown out of the window. I'm now convinced that you just have media literacy of a dead seal if you didn't notice that... The ending was absolutely forced, they could've easily gotten Kamiki locked up (they even mention that everything was done in the manga itself), neither of them had to die pointlessly like this. It absolutely does ruin the entire MC and it has next to no consequences except for a few panels at the funeral. It's a terrible ending that literally shits on the most important character development that occured during its entirety...
@Blahos i said that i agree - i dont think it ruined aqua development at all tho because even he wanting to live was kinda sudden too, but was a good development but thats my opinion as a fan i guess - and even with all u said shouldnt be this bad the score, thats what i am talking about
Feb 8, 5:15 PM
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I had it as a 9 before reading the ending but I had to drop it to an 8 just out of respect for what everything was before the ending. I’ve never hated an ending more, but it was just so peak before it happened 😢
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I had it as a 9 before reading the ending but I had to drop it to an 8 just out of respect for what everything was before the ending. I’ve never hated an ending more, but it was just so peak before it happened 😢
@Animaticli yes of what u read it really has the worst ending - imo jjk has a worse ending.
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8.21 is more than enough
Feb 8, 9:52 PM
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yakisobapan said:
If anything it's still too high, the way it ended pretty much turned most of the story after the very beginning into filler. No character development really mattered and there are no pay-offs for the different character arcs. You could legit read like the first few volumes and then skip to the final one without missing anything that affected the ending.

Not only that but Aqua's "plan" was just plain stupid and made no sense on so many levels. People complained about parts of the final arc in Kaguya being dumb, but since it was a love-comedy it still gets a pass in my book, but as a self-titled more serious mystery that stuiff doesn't fly in OnK. In addition, most twists were just bait as they got never resolved and just served as cliff hangers to keep readers during serialization. In retrospeect just a super shallow series with a nonsensical ending that got hardcarried by great art.

Also no, I don't care whether it's a happy or unhappy ending, before anyone puts any words into my mouth...

Exactly my thoughts, the middle parts of the manga were almost all filler.
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Murilowsky said:
@Animaticli yes of what u read it really has the worst ending - imo jjk has a worse ending.

I didn’t read until the end of JJK but I was spoiled on a good bit of the ending and what led up to it. From what I know about it and in my opinion I think Oshi no Ko’s ending is miles worse because the ending literally assassinated its characters, and what I mean by that is that it ruined the point and development of its characters (to name some, mainly Aqua and Ruby). On top of that the sequence of events was just a horrendous idea. Because of the way the story was going and how all of the characters were developing, it was just a terrible way to end things and I had never felt more unsatisfied with something in my life
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@Blahos i said that i agree - i dont think it ruined aqua development at all tho because even he wanting to live was kinda sudden too, but was a good development but thats my opinion as a fan i guess - and even with all u said shouldnt be this bad the score, thats what i am talking about
@Murilowsky it wasn't really sudden, it was quite literally built up throughout more half of the entire story. Even if it did click at one point, it was built up throughout the whole story and Aqua just completely throws that away pointlessly. That just is ruining the character development of Aqua. Even then the score is still above 8, it's very far from the word bad.
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it's not just 4 chapters, it's the ending. By messing that up they ruined everything that came before. And ratings will always just represent the general consensus of people, it's not about it being justified or unjustified.
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