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Jan 11, 6:50 AM
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Idk if this is TMS or Netflix's fault but considering the dub and English subtitle is ready, and the level of marketing Netflix has done (even the main Netflix youtube channel posted the OP and made their own trailer, and has some Sakamoto Days merchs; those are something Netflix rarely did afaik), I'd believe this is TMS fault. Literally the same case as Blue Box.
Jan 11, 6:55 AM
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It's not anybody's fault. It's on purpose.
Jan 11, 6:58 AM
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It's not anybody's fault. It's on purpose.
@_Mentalist on purpose of what? Making ppl outside Japan had to resort to piracy, especially when Netflix blocks a lot of VPNs? Blue Box's release model got criticized too.
Jan 11, 6:59 AM
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@_Mentalist on purpose of what? Making ppl outside Japan had to resort to piracy, especially when Netflix blocks a lot of VPNs? Blue Box's release model got criticized too.
@RealNath they'll probably do the same they're also doing with Blue Box and air 1 week in advance for Japan.
VPN to Japan does work though
Jan 11, 7:04 AM
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@RealNath they'll probably do the same they're also doing with Blue Box and air 1 week in advance for Japan.
VPN to Japan does work though
@watsym wdym probably? They in fact are doing it. And yes, I used the free Proton VPN to take the screenshot on the right.
Jan 11, 7:07 AM
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@_Mentalist on purpose of what? Making ppl outside Japan had to resort to piracy, especially when Netflix blocks a lot of VPNs? Blue Box's release model got criticized too.
@RealNath You don't "have to resort to piracy". Literally all you have to do is wait one week.
Jan 11, 7:08 AM
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And the anime industry complains about piracy when they’re literally the ones who force fans to piracy
Jan 11, 7:09 AM
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RealNath said:
@_Mentalist on purpose of what? Making ppl outside Japan had to resort to piracy, especially when Netflix blocks a lot of VPNs? Blue Box's release model got criticized too.

You don’t need to resort to either of those, you can just wait for the episode to release next week. It’s what I’ve been doing with Blue Box. Tho idk why they have that release schedule cuz I think it’s dumb.
Jan 11, 7:09 AM
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@RealNath You don't "have to resort to piracy". Literally all you have to do is wait one week.
@_Mentalist Or instead of doing dumb stuff like this which is poor service and detrimental to discussing it on here and other websites I could just pirate it. Theres nothing to gain from a business sense from doing this.
Jan 11, 7:13 AM
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@RealNath You don't "have to resort to piracy". Literally all you have to do is wait one week.
@_Mentalist waiting is not an issue, issue is the ones who watch it and then all the anime pages posts about it
Jan 11, 7:14 AM
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@RealNath You don't "have to resort to piracy". Literally all you have to do is wait one week.
@_Mentalist I'm not saying I would or would not resort to piracy, since I can access Netflix and could just use VPN. There are many ppl (not majority) who can't wait for a week. With that being said, the silent majority, including general Netflix users and casual anime watchers (since the main Netflix account promoted it heavily) might not notice about the early episode if they didn't look it up.
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Jan 11, 7:18 AM
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@_Mentalist waiting is not an issue, issue is the ones who watch it and then all the anime pages posts about it
@Bhavya7 Fair enough, but that's not the fault of Netflix for streaming each episode a week in advance in Japan, that's the fault of people being assholes and ruining it for other people.
Jan 11, 7:18 AM

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Poor impatient people are literally forced to pirate an anime because waiting a week for an episode is too much to bear. Are such people new to the concept of 1 episode a week release schedule?
Jan 11, 7:19 AM
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just wait a week. Jesus christ
Jan 11, 7:19 AM
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@Bhavya7 Fair enough, but that's not the fault of Netflix for streaming each episode a week in advance in Japan, that's the fault of people being assholes and ruining it for other people.
@_Mentalist As I said in the post, I believe it's more of TMS fault, because the same case happens with Blue Box; but not with Orb.
Jan 11, 7:22 AM
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Poor impatient people are literally forced to pirate an anime because waiting a week for an episode is too much to bear. Are such people new to the concept of 1 episode a week release schedule?
@Kempal Its more what is the point? I dont mind waiting for actual releases and this projection that people are impatient is just that. Projection. I gain nothing nor do the distributors by releasing it earlier in one area for basically no reason. I can also then discuss it since the vast majority of people who arent casuals or normies are the ones who post in the areas I discuss shows and actively gimping mysefl by arbitrarily holding back for no reason just means I get spoilers/arent abale to take part.

Theres no good reason for this and defending it, especially with projecting the idea that people are just impatient is not only dumb its pathetic.
Jan 11, 7:23 AM

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Delaying each episode by a week doesn't force anyone to pirate anything. But at the same time, it DOES create an incentive to turn to piracy to get these episodes faster (an incentive that wouldn't be there if episodes released on time). I'm kinda curious what the benefit to the licensor is with the current arrangement, because I can't think of much.
Jan 11, 7:27 AM
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Delaying each episode by a week doesn't force anyone to pirate anything. But at the same time, it DOES create an incentive to turn to piracy to get these episodes faster (an incentive that wouldn't be there if episodes released on time). I'm kinda curious what the benefit to the licensor is with the current arrangement, because I can't think of much.
@eksratu That's my point, thanks. You worded it better than I could.
Jan 11, 7:28 AM

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@watsym wdym probably? They in fact are doing it. And yes, I used the free Proton VPN to take the screenshot on the right.
@RealNath yeah, watched it. Will be worse when they stop adding translation for english on time like it is now for Blue Box. Like episode 15 is out in Japan only, but not yet english subbed.
Jan 11, 7:31 AM
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Delaying each episode by a week doesn't force anyone to pirate anything. But at the same time, it DOES create an incentive to turn to piracy to get these episodes faster (an incentive that wouldn't be there if episodes released on time). I'm kinda curious what the benefit to the licensor is with the current arrangement, because I can't think of much.
@eksratu

Probably something like giving viewers who would usually watch anime on TV in Japan an incentive to subscribe to Netflix and watch it on there instead.
Jan 11, 7:31 AM
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@RealNath yeah, watched it. Will be worse when they stop adding translation for english on time like it is now for Blue Box. Like episode 15 is out in Japan only, but not yet english subbed.
@watsym tbf I think Blue Box's eng sub not available in Japan is cause it's not done yet. Episode 2 was not available in English sub when it got released in JP Netflix for the first few days too. Sakamoto Days, even the English dub and other language dubs are done, so it's safer to assume the subtitles would be available.
Jan 11, 7:39 AM

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@eksratu

Probably something like giving viewers who would usually watch anime on TV in Japan an incentive to subscribe to Netflix and watch it on there instead.
@_Mentalist oh man this makes a lot of sense!
Jan 11, 7:49 AM
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@_Mentalist As I said in the post, I believe it's more of TMS fault, because the same case happens with Blue Box; but not with Orb.
@RealNath fyi, blue box isn't by TMS, but by Telecom Animation Film. So it's Telecom's fault too now?
Jan 11, 9:37 AM
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@RealNath fyi, blue box isn't by TMS, but by Telecom Animation Film. So it's Telecom's fault too now?
@eplipswich it's produced by TMS, not animated by them.
Jan 11, 10:02 AM
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another bluebox incident 😂
Jan 11, 10:23 AM

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if its 2 times in a row i really doubt is a mistake, it seems more that it was on purpose, what was the reasoning behind that choice who knows...
Jan 11, 10:48 AM
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_Mentalist said:
@Bhavya7 Fair enough, but that's not the fault of Netflix for streaming each episode a week in advance in Japan, that's the fault of people being assholes and ruining it for other people.

That’s true, unfortunately, simulcast programs only follow the job Japanese television broadcast. They don’t apply to early streaming releases. Crunchyroll had to deal with the same problem with the release of My Deer friend Nokotan where episodes were released five days earlier then they would on Japanese television making the series international release on Crunchyroll behind!
Jan 11, 10:50 AM
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@Kempal Its more what is the point? I dont mind waiting for actual releases and this projection that people are impatient is just that. Projection. I gain nothing nor do the distributors by releasing it earlier in one area for basically no reason. I can also then discuss it since the vast majority of people who arent casuals or normies are the ones who post in the areas I discuss shows and actively gimping mysefl by arbitrarily holding back for no reason just means I get spoilers/arent abale to take part.

Theres no good reason for this and defending it, especially with projecting the idea that people are just impatient is not only dumb its pathetic.

My only guess as to why TMS would do this is that maybe for some reason they make more money nationally with the release strategy! I don’t have any proof of that that’s just a wild guess of mine! Honestly you’re right, it’s a really strange thing to do!
Jan 11, 11:10 AM
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It is and it’s good
Jan 11, 12:15 PM

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@Kempal Its more what is the point? I dont mind waiting for actual releases and this projection that people are impatient is just that. Projection. I gain nothing nor do the distributors by releasing it earlier in one area for basically no reason. I can also then discuss it since the vast majority of people who arent casuals or normies are the ones who post in the areas I discuss shows and actively gimping mysefl by arbitrarily holding back for no reason just means I get spoilers/arent abale to take part.

Theres no good reason for this and defending it, especially with projecting the idea that people are just impatient is not only dumb its pathetic.
@BioticKhajiit I'm not defending it.

As to being pathetic, it's whining on the internet that you have to wait a week for a cartoon and you are so miserable that you're gonna pirate it - that's pathetic. Get a life and stop insulting others.
Jan 11, 1:29 PM

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You do it one time it's annoying but if you keep doing it then it's deal breking. What's the point of paying if I can have earlier access through pirating. Netflix and their horrible marketing decisions.
Jan 11, 1:36 PM
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A lot of you are getting derailed by talks of piracy. What do you gain from waiting a week more to get the same thing as others? It's only logical to pirate stuff if you can't access otherwise if you want to see it.

Also related, does this mean the japan netflix will follow up with ep 3 next week or they'll match the schedules after this?
Jan 11, 2:05 PM
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@BioticKhajiit I'm not defending it.

As to being pathetic, it's whining on the internet that you have to wait a week for a cartoon and you are so miserable that you're gonna pirate it - that's pathetic. Get a life and stop insulting others.
@Kempal Youre claiming Im whining on the internet about a wait, which is BS as I just went and pirated the episode and watched it as will anyone else who actually wants to. I can still do this and point out how utterly retarded this action is. You have no actual defence for the decision, I have one for mine as I benefit from a consumer standpoint. If they dont want people to pirate their service can avoid doing dumb shit like this. Imagine actually waiting like a cuck for no reason other than some corp randomly deciding to fuck you over for no reason.

Get a life yourself and stop defending such stupid practices on a forum. They are not paying you and the people like myself who want to watch the 2nd episode early will do so anyway whilst pointing out how dumb a decision it is.
Jan 11, 2:35 PM
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ajw215799 said:
And the anime industry complains about piracy when they’re literally the ones who force fans to piracy

nobody is "forced" to pirate. That's a cop out. Just admit that you want to pirate. I pirate stuff too but stop trying to make it sound like you're not in the wrong. Just own up to it.
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ajw215799 said:
And the anime industry complains about piracy when they’re literally the ones who force fans to piracy

nobody is "forced" to pirate. That's a cop out. Just admit that you want to pirate. I pirate stuff too but stop trying to make it sound like you're not in the wrong. Just own up to it.
@Moonlight_Arc-V doesn’t matter if I want to or not, I don’t have a choice with some shows because no one picks them up for legal streaming outside of Japan.
Jan 12, 2:56 AM
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You do it one time it's annoying but if you keep doing it then it's deal breking. What's the point of paying if I can have earlier access through pirating. Netflix and their horrible marketing decisions.
@WaterMage Do you also leave the grocery store without getting in line and paying for your items? Do you leave a restaurant without flagging a waiter/waitress and asking for the check? After all, what's the point of paying if you can just leave without it, for free, right?

The point is it's theft, and you're committing a crime. Stop trying to defend piracy as if you're "forced" to do it. You're not. You choose to do it, knowing it's unlikely you'll be punished for it.
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@WaterMage Do you also leave the grocery store without getting in line and paying for your items? Do you leave a restaurant without flagging a waiter/waitress and asking for the check? After all, what's the point of paying if you can just leave without it, for free, right?

The point is it's theft, and you're committing a crime. Stop trying to defend piracy as if you're "forced" to do it. You're not. You choose to do it, knowing it's unlikely you'll be punished for it.
@_Mentalist I ain't gonna pirate for a show which I already technically paid by subscribing to Netflix. So I will wait for this like I have for Blue Box.
But my point is me and Japanese people are paying same so if you have the product ready why not give to all or don't do it. What's the benifit it's bad business model but that idc.

I don't try pirate as much as possible but even I have to for some anime (say monogatari) I can't have access even if I pay. That's not harming anime in any way right. Although that's theft? This is also similar. I paid I atleast expect to have better service and stop giving me reason to pirate which Netflix failed twice.

So I will keep it for this season for this, Orb, Happy marriage and blue box but when say it returns again next season or so if Netflix didn't picked any more worthy show to give me reason for paying, I rather not. Knowing pirating give me early access what's the point.

Try to understand and don't defend this corporations. I am not advocating for pirating but rather opposite. There is value for morals in opposition to money.
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@Kempal Youre claiming Im whining on the internet about a wait, which is BS as I just went and pirated the episode and watched it as will anyone else who actually wants to. I can still do this and point out how utterly retarded this action is. You have no actual defence for the decision, I have one for mine as I benefit from a consumer standpoint. If they dont want people to pirate their service can avoid doing dumb shit like this. Imagine actually waiting like a cuck for no reason other than some corp randomly deciding to fuck you over for no reason.

Get a life yourself and stop defending such stupid practices on a forum. They are not paying you and the people like myself who want to watch the 2nd episode early will do so anyway whilst pointing out how dumb a decision it is.
@BioticKhajiit

> "I'm not whining"
> "I just went and pirated the episode"

Yeah...
Jan 12, 5:58 AM
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@BioticKhajiit

> "I'm not whining"
> "I just went and pirated the episode"

Yeah...
@Kempal
>No argument.
Me pirating the episode is the opposite of whining if anything as Ive just circumvented the issue.
Jan 12, 6:08 AM
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@WaterMage Do you also leave the grocery store without getting in line and paying for your items? Do you leave a restaurant without flagging a waiter/waitress and asking for the check? After all, what's the point of paying if you can just leave without it, for free, right?

The point is it's theft, and you're committing a crime. Stop trying to defend piracy as if you're "forced" to do it. You're not. You choose to do it, knowing it's unlikely you'll be punished for it.
@_Mentalist False equivalence at its finest. Pirating a product that is ready to distrubute and is in one country for no extra cost as its just marketing is not the same as shoplifting. I paid my netflix subscription, so I deserve the same treatment. I dont give a rat's ass about bullshit technicality and legal document bullshit. I paid to be able watch a show, theres no reason beyond them wanting to grab more subscribers in another country by region locking an episode ahead thus denying me of good service. If they dont want me to fuck off and find a betetr service then maybe they shouldnt shaft me for no JUSTIFIABLE reason.

I already paid, those involved get their money. At worst their viewership tanks but that due to their own stupid policies. Its a moral crime to the public for havign a shit service to the point people would rather commit legal crime to access a better service. Sucking corpo dick and acting like how a typical midwit morally stuck up redditor about piracy not only ignores the greater issue but only serves to annoy everyone else.

Ive watched episode 2, theres a discussion page on MAL for it which is 99.9999999% certainly going to be made up of people who arent Japanese. By your own logic MAL is complicit and being the naive moral crusader that you are you should leave the site if you really respect your principles.
Jan 12, 9:34 AM
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You're not going to get a rise out of me by spouting inane bullshit, man.

I'm just blocking you.
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You're not going to get a rise out of me by spouting inane bullshit, man.

I'm just blocking you.
@_Mentalist You do realise I can call your side bullshit as well? Youve not given a sound argument beyond moralpanic cope which is just self fulfilling.

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