| They just caught some bloke trying to steal a 15-year old child's panties, and he said his idol and motivation was Rudeus. Link- https://x.com/evlxyn/status/1849915824984948935?t=w-aD2cx0Je_CeuRq2jkvdw&s=19 What do you think? Is this a sick guy who is wrongly blaming the anime? Or is Mushoku irresponsibly handling some of Rudeus' "bad traits" and normalizing it in some people's eyes. I'm not suggesting anything, I'm just asking. I encourage constructive discussion in the comments, this is not a provocative post  |
Ba-Cii10Oct 27, 11:30 AM
| Bait post. You're free to dislike Mushoku Tensei, but if you think he is a pedo, you didn't understood the show or his character. And if that guy was indeed inspired by Rudeus that also shows he didn't understood it. |
| These mushoku fans can't help themselves. 15 yr panties is older than I expected though for a fan of mushoku. Jk No media should be banned for some strange one off case related to it. The problem here is due to someone lacking mental sanity; not some media telling him to do it irl. If we ban mushoku for that we should ban all media involving crimes including violence. Silly idea |
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Reply to Cielord
Bait post.
You're free to dislike Mushoku Tensei, but if you think he is a pedo, you didn't understood the show or his character.
And if that guy was indeed inspired by Rudeus that also shows he didn't understood it.
You're free to dislike Mushoku Tensei, but if you think he is a pedo, you didn't understood the show or his character.
And if that guy was indeed inspired by Rudeus that also shows he didn't understood it.
| @Cielord ee bait bait🥴 no, it's not bait, you can use twisted logic to defend Rudeus as much as you want, it won't change certain facts that the vast majority of people know. I don't even want to discuss (especially on the Mushoku forum), I just throw out news and you do what you want with it |
Ba-Cii10 said: @Cielord ee bait bait🥴 no, it's not bait, you can use twisted logic to defend Rudeus as much as you want, it won't change certain facts that the vast majority of people know. I don't even want to discuss (especially on the Mushoku forum), I just throw out news and you do what you want with it "twisted logic" It's literally just what the show and Rudeus told you. "I finally understand now. I’m still just a kid. A brat who pretended to be an adult by using his previous memories.” |
Reply to WestOnAndrewAve
"Video games inspire violence" type of story.
| @WestOnAndrewAve It seems so, but has the perpetrator ever admitted that he was inspired by the game? I'm asking seriously because I don't know |
| @anime-prime I suggest to delete or lock this thread before it becomes a dumpster fire. |
| All weebs creatures of the galaxy, hear this message. Those of you who listen will not be struck by western animation. You will no longer know hunger, nor pain. Your Anime have come to lead you now. Our strength shall serve as a luminous sun toward which all intelligence may blossom. And the impervious shelter beneath which you will prosper. However, for those who refuse our offer and cling to their western animation ways… For you, there will be great wrath. |
Reply to Nurguburu
@anime-prime I suggest to delete or lock this thread before it becomes a dumpster fire.
| @Nurguburu you want to delete everything you don't like xD my post is not provocative and encourages discussion about the influence of anime on viewers👌 |
Reply to damnit_tomioka
Cielord said:
"twisted logic"
It's literally just what the show and Rudeus told you.
"I finally understand now. I’m still just a kid. A brat who pretended to be an adult by using his previous memories.”
Ba-Cii10 said:
@Cielord ee bait bait🥴 no, it's not bait, you can use twisted logic to defend Rudeus as much as you want, it won't change certain facts that the vast majority of people know.
I don't even want to discuss (especially on the Mushoku forum), I just throw out news and you do what you want with it
@Cielord ee bait bait🥴 no, it's not bait, you can use twisted logic to defend Rudeus as much as you want, it won't change certain facts that the vast majority of people know.
I don't even want to discuss (especially on the Mushoku forum), I just throw out news and you do what you want with it
"twisted logic"
It's literally just what the show and Rudeus told you.
"I finally understand now. I’m still just a kid. A brat who pretended to be an adult by using his previous memories.”
and what about the experiences that he gained from his previous life? even If they were painful, they do make him a mature man. however in the body of a small boy, even if he's mentally mid aged i think it's logical that he'd go after young underage girls which is not right but the show is not about morals, is it? but but but, as a fan i do understand his actions and decisions but that doesn't mean that I would cover his immoral actions and justify them with quotes that the mc himself said. they are not literally universal truth or fact. the mc spoke that because he felt like that, he had realised the reason for his actions and thus he said that. but does it really mean it's the fact?
| @damnit_tomioka damnit_tomioka said: and what about the experiences that he gained from his previous life? These are all parts of the memories he talked about, which again, doesn't make him an adult. damnit_tomioka said: but does it really mean it's the fact? It does mean it's a fact, because this is what the narrative of the show. That was a moment of enlightenment for him. You call yourself a fan, but you don't even understand that... |
Reply to Ba-Cii10
@Nurguburu you want to delete everything you don't like xD my post is not provocative and encourages discussion about the influence of anime on viewers👌
| @Ba-Cii10 Pretty obvious you create this thread to annoy MT fans besides such controversial topics are not allowed. You don't fool anyone. You were already reported anyways. 👌 |
| All weebs creatures of the galaxy, hear this message. Those of you who listen will not be struck by western animation. You will no longer know hunger, nor pain. Your Anime have come to lead you now. Our strength shall serve as a luminous sun toward which all intelligence may blossom. And the impervious shelter beneath which you will prosper. However, for those who refuse our offer and cling to their western animation ways… For you, there will be great wrath. |
Reply to Nurguburu
@Ba-Cii10 Pretty obvious you create this thread to annoy MT fans besides such controversial topics are not allowed. You don't fool anyone. You were already reported anyways. 👌
| @Nurguburu Bruh, don't make me believe in bad intentions that I didn't have, such false reports should also be punished. The news that I gave in the post is controversial but I didn't use it for provocative purposes, I'm just curious about the opinion of Mushoku fans and my only goal was a normal discussion |
| Weak bait. The entire scene was staged, actually. Thread closed. |
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Reply to Nurguburu
@Ba-Cii10 Pretty obvious you create this thread to annoy MT fans besides such controversial topics are not allowed. You don't fool anyone. You were already reported anyways. 👌
| @Nurguburu I'm looking through the rules and I don't see any mention of "controversy" what does controversy mean anyway? I can consider ecchi threads in which people sexualize underage girls controversial but then I'd have to report half the people on this site xD |
| and yet another one of the best thread ever created. It’s time for MT fans to get out of their fucking delusion and get real that anime fell hard after season 1 |
Reply to Ba-Cii10
@Nurguburu I'm looking through the rules and I don't see any mention of "controversy" what does controversy mean anyway? I can consider ecchi threads in which people sexualize underage girls controversial but then I'd have to report half the people on this site xD
| @Ba-Cii10 Controversial topic rule does exist, and it is vague enough to shut down any topic. I miss when mal had a current events tab, and discussion was encouraged. Corporate culture kills fun |
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Reply to damnit_tomioka
@Cielord
Ofcourse i myself justified that one part. But When I asking that question about his memories from the past life, my main focus was on morality. I was asking if it was morally correct, not telling you.
And in this one part I was not talking about the MC's word being the fact in his world, I was talking about our world where the narratives of mushoku tensei don't work but it's themes do exist. I was asking you, about what your thoughts were if it makes a fact in even our real world if being spoken by the mc. We both are fans but my perception on real world wasn't changed or influenced by mushoku tensei a bit. But I was just interested if yours were....
Cielord said:
These are all parts of the memories he talked about, which again, doesn't make him an adult.
These are all parts of the memories he talked about, which again, doesn't make him an adult.
Ofcourse i myself justified that one part. But When I asking that question about his memories from the past life, my main focus was on morality. I was asking if it was morally correct, not telling you.
Cielord said:
It does mean it's a fact, because this is what the narrative of the show. That was a moment of enlightenment for him. You call yourself a fan, but you don't even understand that...
It does mean it's a fact, because this is what the narrative of the show. That was a moment of enlightenment for him. You call yourself a fan, but you don't even understand that...
And in this one part I was not talking about the MC's word being the fact in his world, I was talking about our world where the narratives of mushoku tensei don't work but it's themes do exist. I was asking you, about what your thoughts were if it makes a fact in even our real world if being spoken by the mc. We both are fans but my perception on real world wasn't changed or influenced by mushoku tensei a bit. But I was just interested if yours were....
| @damnit_tomioka The real world? In the real world, reincarnation doesn't exist, at least as far as we know it. |
Reply to ghier
Cielord said:
Bait post.
You're free to dislike Mushoku Tensei, but if you think he is a pedo, you didn't understood the show or his character.
And if that guy was indeed inspired by Rudeus that also shows he didn't understood it.
Bait post.
You're free to dislike Mushoku Tensei, but if you think he is a pedo, you didn't understood the show or his character.
And if that guy was indeed inspired by Rudeus that also shows he didn't understood it.
Idk man, the pedo part, maybe you can say that ain’t the influence of the character … as Rudeus hides his mental age so that there are no consequences for it. But the perversion that led to him stealing panties; that element is definitely normalized in Mushoku Tensei … as nobody seems to truly admonish Rudeus for that kind of behavior.
| @ghier ghier said: the pedo part He isn't a pedo in the first place. The perverted part is just a common anime trope. Roshi in Dragon Ball was such a person, and that was decades ago. And no, no sane person watching such a trope begins to commit sex crimes, if they do, it's on their part. |
| Fiction is fiction, if someone is influenced by fiction, that person should undergo psychological treatment because it is not healthy. |
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Reply to Bookwormlife
Cielord said:
Bait post.
You're free to dislike Mushoku Tensei, but if you think he is a pedo, you didn't understood the show or his character.
And if that guy was indeed inspired by Rudeus that also shows he didn't understood it.
Bait post.
You're free to dislike Mushoku Tensei, but if you think he is a pedo, you didn't understood the show or his character.
And if that guy was indeed inspired by Rudeus that also shows he didn't understood it.
I clearly misunderstood then. Pls explain Ryden’s to me.
| @Bookwormlife Ryden? You refer to Rudeus, I guess. If you watched this season, you should've heard Rudeus say explicitly that he is a kid. I already wrote the quote in this thread. |
| Here's a full video for anyone wondering. Dude only brings up MT once, say's it in English (no fan says it in english) and not even it's full name as if he didn't even knew what he is talking about, which makes me doubt he even watched it or even knows basics of it. Overall, it's VERY mild compared to other cases Alex Rosen was involved with. |
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Reply to Bookwormlife
Cielord said:
@Bookwormlife Ryden? You refer to Rudeus, I guess. If you watched this season, you should've heard Rudeus say explicitly that he is a kid. I already wrote the quote in this thread.
@Bookwormlife Ryden? You refer to Rudeus, I guess. If you watched this season, you should've heard Rudeus say explicitly that he is a kid. I already wrote the quote in this thread.
He isn’t a kid tho. He should have matured more and even if that’s the point that he isn’t mature the author doesn’t show enough self awareness to make rudeus compelling.
| @Bookwormlife He is a kid, though. In this season, he is 15/16 years old. And this quote of his, is actually a sign of him maturing—of admitting what he actually is and not binding himself due to his memories. |
CielordOct 27, 1:11 PM
Reply to Bookwormlife
Cielord said:
@Bookwormlife Ryden? You refer to Rudeus, I guess. If you watched this season, you should've heard Rudeus say explicitly that he is a kid. I already wrote the quote in this thread.
@Bookwormlife Ryden? You refer to Rudeus, I guess. If you watched this season, you should've heard Rudeus say explicitly that he is a kid. I already wrote the quote in this thread.
He isn’t a kid tho. He should have matured more and even if that’s the point that he isn’t mature the author doesn’t show enough self awareness to make rudeus compelling.
| @Bookwormlife Rudeus was a shut-in since the age of 15, so he never experienced adulthood or maturity, never had any proper education in the subject matter and all of his experience about sexuality comes from degenerate games he was playing, which is the entire reason for his condition and is definetely not an excuse, especially since everything wrong that happened to him (even being bullied, belive it or not) is totally his fault, let alone how he alienated his family and friends. Calling him a pedo, while he is mentally still a manchild is kind of a stretch, though I will aggree that author overshoot a little bit with his degeneracy. Nowhere it is stated, that you are supposed to sympathize with Rudy at the beginning of the story and character development is gradual process, not a flip of a switch. |
PiromyslOct 27, 1:15 PM
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Reply to Bookwormlife
Pieromysl said:
@Bookwormlife Rudeus was a shut-in since the age of 15, so he never experienced adulthood or maturity, never had any proper education in the subject matter and all of his experience about sexuality comes from degenerate games he was playing, which is the entire reason for his condition.
Calling him a pedo, while he is mentally still a manchild is kind of a stretch, though I will aggree that author overshoot a little bit with his degeneracy. Nowhere it is stated, that you are supposed to sympathize with Rudy at the beginning of the story and character development is gradual process, not a flip of a switch.
@Bookwormlife Rudeus was a shut-in since the age of 15, so he never experienced adulthood or maturity, never had any proper education in the subject matter and all of his experience about sexuality comes from degenerate games he was playing, which is the entire reason for his condition.
Calling him a pedo, while he is mentally still a manchild is kind of a stretch, though I will aggree that author overshoot a little bit with his degeneracy. Nowhere it is stated, that you are supposed to sympathize with Rudy at the beginning of the story and character development is gradual process, not a flip of a switch.
The author should treat this like it’s a mental illness then not create a world where rudeus can live out his fantasies.
| @Bookwormlife Saying that author should completely rewrite and retcon the story just because you don't like a single aspect is kinda imprudent. And he does not just "lives out his fantasies". Definitely not after first season. This hyperfixiation on that trivial stuff, blowing it out of proportion and putting words in author's mouth is the cringiest shit ever. Story does not revolve around ecchi elements. |
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Bookwormlife said: The author should treat this like it’s a mental illness then not create a world where rudeus can live out his fantasies. Translation: "Fictional works should comply with my moral principles" - The Almighty Demander |
No, this isn't my signature-desu. |
| So this... "Rudeus" in the room with us right now? |
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Reply to Bookwormlife
Cielord said:
@Bookwormlife He is a kid, though. In this season, he is 15/16 years old. And this quote of his, is actually a sign of him maturing—of admitting what he actually is and not binding himself due to his memories.
@Bookwormlife He is a kid, though. In this season, he is 15/16 years old. And this quote of his, is actually a sign of him maturing—of admitting what he actually is and not binding himself due to his memories.
Also this show is too horny to be properly self aware
| @Bookwormlife Specify. And this show is ecchi, if you can't deal with a bit of horniness, don't watch ecchi. And this show is pretty tame compared to many others in the genre. |
Bookwormlife said: Yes or at least they shouldn’t advocate for such things. And if they do advocate for such things as pedofilia and such then they are bad. That's not even the case, Rudeus got his ass kicked everytime he went too far, which is the opposite of advocacy. |
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Reply to OvergrownRover
Yeah I killed my mother recently after binging all the Halloween films, that Michael was just so cool!
| @OvergrownRover Poor analogy, Michael and what he did was not portrayed in a positive light. Apologize to your mom and try harder next time |
| Yeah, and he was also 15 while having a wife at this age. And Roxy is way older than him. |
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