Is this the right place in the story for a movie?

Mar 16, 6:18 PM

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Don't care, I want some more CSM.

Mar 16, 6:56 PM

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JaysonNnN

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Nah, there is a lot more action after Reze, a season 2 of 13 episodes can accommodate everything.
And then we can even already have an S3 given the advance of the manga.

Mar 16, 7:00 PM

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KILLUA_the_G said:
Based on the pacing of season 1 the anime goes at about 3 chapters per episode. Season 1 is 38 chapters. The Reze arc is only 14 chapters, giving about an hour and a half/hour 45 min. of runtime (little short in my opinion but that's just me). Then season 2 would have to adapt 45 chapters at 3.75 chapters an episode, possibly rushing it.

What would be better is for a season 2 adapting chapters 39-79,

same pacing as season 1, then having a movie of chapters 80-97 with a runtime of about 2 hours/2 hours 15 min.

Take it with a grain of salt. I heard it's going to be a movie trilogy. If it's s2 then, they'll have to cut some content. But the sole owner of CSM is Mappa. The movie has insane production value. If it goes big, expect more movies

Mar 16, 7:30 PM

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It is never the right place for a movie in a series that started seasonal. Only if it is a side movie. Not a fucking break of one more year than it should to wait for a release.

Mar 16, 7:47 PM

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Definitely not. I would have preferred it to be season 2.

So no. It isn't the right place for a film. They should have just done season 2. Then probably finish it off at season 3 or 4 for this part of the story. They will ruin it to focus on Jujitsu Kaisen.
Is it sad? Yes. Disappointing? Yes. But it is what it is at the end of the day. Heck, I don't even think the manga author is working closely with them anymore, which is concerning

.
I'm not going to lie, I loved Chainsaw Man. I thought it was adapted pretty well

. And it is sad to think that MAPPA (the studio behind the anime) will ruin it all with a film by not doing the clever thing and doing a season 2.
I personally think that the film will flop. Not because of the rushing thing, no. Because of the fact that they need to do a recap of the episodes and then get into the how many time they have left. Because it's a film. Not season 2, and it is continuing from the anime.

That's my thoughts anyway. I'm very invested in the anime and the manga, and I think they're going to ruin the film and the anime to focus solely on Jujitsu Kaisen. Because that's what's profitable. Not the

lame story of Chainsaw Man. It's just disappointing. I hope it doesn't flop. But, if it does, then perhaps people will read the manga. Just fyi, I found this

arc the best arc. I don't think Chainsaw Man is lame by any standard. It's just MAPPA being stupid. Sad...

Mar 16, 8:12 PM

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Mar 16, 8:37 PM

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yes it’s the perfect spot actually

Mar 16, 8:57 PM

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Definitely not. I would have preferred it to be season 2.

So no. It isn't the right place for a film. They should have just done season 2. Then probably finish it off at season 3 or 4 for this part of the story. They will ruin it to focus on Jujitsu Kaisen.
Is it sad? Yes. Disappointing? Yes. But it is what it is at the end of the day. Heck, I don't even think the manga author is working closely with them anymore, which is concerning

.
I'm not going to lie, I loved Chainsaw Man. I thought it was adapted pretty well

. And it is sad to think that MAPPA (the studio behind the anime) will ruin it all with a film by not doing the clever thing and doing a season 2.
I personally think that the film will flop. Not because of the rushing thing, no. Because of the fact that they need to do a recap of the episodes and then get into the how many time they have left. Because it's a film. Not season 2, and it is continuing from the anime.

That's my thoughts anyway. I'm very invested in the anime and the manga, and I think they're going to ruin the film and the anime to focus solely on Jujitsu Kaisen. Because that's what's profitable. Not the

lame story of Chainsaw Man. It's just disappointing. I hope it doesn't flop. But, if it does, then perhaps people will read the manga. Just fyi, I found this

arc the best arc. I don't think Chainsaw Man is lame by any standard. It's just MAPPA being stupid. Sad...

@knd944 So... you basically added nothing to the conversation other than just being a pessimistic. Didn't even give any reason as to why this is "a bad idea", despite the fact that Reze's arc is very much just the perfect length to make a full movie about, and with adding new content.

And I really do not get why you keep repeating the same non-sensical argument that making a movie is "stupid" and that would make it a "flop." It's a movie sequel to a very popular IP, it will get millions watching it. It's like saying Haikyuu's movies would "flop" because the story is being rushed, when the fanbase would still run to watch it and it's perfoming incredibly well. Aniplex keeps releasing glorified recaps as theatrical releases, and they keep working. Claiming that making a movie before a second season is "ruining it" is completely non-sensical, and how is that "to prioritize JJK?" Unlike it, MAPPA actively funds the whole anime as a product by themselves, no investment from anybody else, which also means no division of returns to anybody else - any and all profits that comes from the movie, and Chainsaw Man's anime IP as a whole, fully comes to them.

Mar 16, 9:35 PM

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As an anime only I wanted a 2 cour season but ig that was never in the cards for Mappa.

Mar 16, 9:45 PM

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@knd944 So... you basically added nothing to the conversation other than just being a pessimistic. Didn't even give any reason as to why this is "a bad idea", despite the fact that Reze's arc is very much just the perfect length to make a full movie about, and with adding new content.

And I really do not get why you keep repeating the same non-sensical argument that making a movie is "stupid" and that would make it a "flop." It's a movie sequel to a very popular IP, it will get millions watching it. It's like saying Haikyuu's movies would "flop" because the story is being rushed, when the fanbase would still run to watch it and it's perfoming incredibly well. Aniplex keeps releasing glorified recaps as theatrical releases, and they keep working. Claiming that making a movie before a second season is "ruining it" is completely non-sensical, and how is that "to prioritize JJK?" Unlike it, MAPPA actively funds the whole anime as a product by themselves, no investment from anybody else, which also means no division of returns to anybody else - any and all profits that comes from the movie, and Chainsaw Man's anime IP as a whole, fully comes to them.

@Oongbuh Okay, okay... Have you even looked at the spoilers I gave? The arc isn't an arc in the manga. That's one spoiler for you. I'm being realistic. Okay? Realistically speaking, they have made the wrong choice for a film. And, realistically, they will ruin it all with the film. You understand?
It is stupid. And they should have done a season 2, instead of a film. They also should have made the anime longer, 24 episodes. And I believe it will flop. Mainly because manga readers, (yes, actual readers of the manga) will say the same thing as me: it isn't an arc. Just a small part of the manga. And it isn't even hype in my opinion.

It is a film sequel of a popular IP, in the anime and manga industry only. It won't get millions watching it, no. Because, like I said previously, the manga readers will not like it because it says Arc, and that's it. Do a little bit of research perhaps? I don't care about any films other than the one that is being discussed (because I don't know what the films you're referring to).
The Chainsaw Man film, I think, will get backlash, like another anime film I'm not going say here.
And MAPPA is already in a lot of trouble with rushing things lol. JJK 2 had sometimes terrible art. I have proof of it as well.
https://imgur.com/l09Pw73
https://imgur.com/G9IKL8W
Look at the eyes. I found that out straight away when watching episode 7.
Look, in the end, it's just my opinion. They should have done a season 2 instead of a film. I don't even like the idea of a film. Unless it's done correctly and cleverly. I will still watch it regardless because it is Chainsaw Man, but I will be extra critical. I might not watch it at the cinema as well. Just on Crunchyroll or elsewhere. Anyway, it's just an opinion. I think they're actually trying to ruin it to focus on Jujitsu Kaisen. And nobody's going to change my opinion.
Thanks.
(Also funny that you've completed 4 anime on MAL. And none are Chainsaw Man. Also, 0 mangas... LOL!)

knd944Mar 16, 10:06 PM

Mar 16, 11:35 PM

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Before season 1 came out I was thinking about how they would pace csm and I thought how season 1, a movie, and then the rest of part 1 for season 2 would be perfect. Having reze arc be the movie works so well since it’s a short-ish arc and is really well contained. Also it works in a meta way since the arc starts with a movie related thing (don’t wanna spoil even though it’s minor). Regarding the actual length of season it should be good since it would sorta fall under the same chapter length that season 1 adapted. The first season adapted those 30-something chapters but it should be taken into account that the first episode only adapted the first chapter since the length is much larger than usual chapters. The second season would be able to adapt more chapters since it no longer needs to spend one episode on one chapter.

Mar 17, 11:28 AM

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knd944 said:
Definitely not. I would have preferred it to be season 2.

So no. It isn't the right place for a film. They should have just done season 2. Then probably finish it off at season 3 or 4 for this part of the story. They will ruin it to focus on Jujitsu Kaisen.
Is it sad? Yes. Disappointing? Yes. But it is what it is at the end of the day. Heck, I don't even think the manga author is working closely with them anymore, which is concerning

.
I'm not going to lie, I loved Chainsaw Man. I thought it was adapted pretty well

. And it is sad to think that MAPPA (the studio behind the anime) will ruin it all with a film by not doing the clever thing and doing a season 2.
I personally think that the film will flop. Not because of the rushing thing, no. Because of the fact that they need to do a recap of the episodes and then get into the how many time they have left. Because it's a film. Not season 2, and it is continuing from the anime.

That's my thoughts anyway. I'm very invested in the anime and the manga, and I think they're going to ruin the film and the anime to focus solely on Jujitsu Kaisen. Because that's what's profitable. Not the

lame story of Chainsaw Man. It's just disappointing. I hope it doesn't flop. But, if it does, then perhaps people will read the manga. Just fyi, I found this

arc the best arc. I don't think Chainsaw Man is lame by any standard. It's just MAPPA being stupid. Sad...

Imo, Reze arc is perfect for a movie, and continue the anime after the movie with a 2nd season is really cool.
But It's imo.
The anime is not ruined for me, It's already my 2nd best anime !

Mar 17, 11:32 AM

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MuchoMacaroni said:
Before season 1 came out I was thinking about how they would pace csm and I thought how season 1, a movie, and then the rest of part 1 for season 2 would be perfect. Having reze arc be the movie works so well since it’s a short-ish arc and is really well contained. Also it works in a meta way since the arc starts with a movie related thing (don’t wanna spoil even though it’s minor). Regarding the actual length of season it should be good since it would sorta fall under the same chapter length that season 1 adapted. The first season adapted those 30-something chapters but it should be taken into account that the first episode only adapted the first chapter since the length is much larger than usual chapters. The second season would be able to adapt more chapters since it no longer needs to spend one episode on one chapter.

Season 1 is 1 to 39 chapters.
And you'r right, i was thinking the same before the start of the anime.
A first season with an end at Katana arc, into a Reze Arc movie and a 2nd season after.
We seem to be heading towards that and I'm very happy !

Mar 17, 12:02 PM

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knd944 said:
@Oongbuh Okay, okay... Have you even looked at the spoilers I gave? The arc isn't an arc in the manga. That's one spoiler for you. I'm being realistic. Okay? Realistically speaking, they have made the wrong choice for a film. And, realistically, they will ruin it all with the film. You understand?
It is stupid. And they should have done a season 2, instead of a film. They also should have made the anime longer, 24 episodes. And I believe it will flop. Mainly because manga readers, (yes, actual readers of the manga) will say the same thing as me: it isn't an arc. Just a small part of the manga. And it isn't even hype in my opinion.

It is a film sequel of a popular IP, in the anime and manga industry only. It won't get millions watching it, no. Because, like I said previously, the manga readers will not like it because it says Arc, and that's it. Do a little bit of research perhaps? I don't care about any films other than the one that is being discussed (because I don't know what the films you're referring to).
The Chainsaw Man film, I think, will get backlash, like another anime film I'm not going say here.
And MAPPA is already in a lot of trouble with rushing things lol. JJK 2 had sometimes terrible art. I have proof of it as well.
https://imgur.com/l09Pw73
https://imgur.com/G9IKL8W
Look at the eyes. I found that out straight away when watching episode 7.
Look, in the end, it's just my opinion. They should have done a season 2 instead of a film. I don't even like the idea of a film. Unless it's done correctly and cleverly. I will still watch it regardless because it is Chainsaw Man, but I will be extra critical. I might not watch it at the cinema as well. Just on Crunchyroll or elsewhere. Anyway, it's just an opinion. I think they're actually trying to ruin it to focus on Jujitsu Kaisen. And nobody's going to change my opinion.
Thanks.
(Also funny that you've completed 4 anime on MAL. And none are Chainsaw Man. Also, 0 mangas... LOL!)

I have never heard a manga reader say the Reze arc isn't an arc lol. And literally why would MAPPA intentionally ruin it to focus on JJK??? How does that make any sense???

Mar 17, 12:21 PM

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Yeah....yeah it is.

-3 Chapters per Epsiode. 12 Epsiodes, 24 minutes runtime.
That's 228 Minutes of Anime, for 38 chapters adapted.

-Reze Arc is 14 chapters long. That would make for a whopping 4,6 Episodes of Anime. 112 Minutes.
112 Minutes aren't great for a second season, but they are fitting for a Movie.

That's the only reason why this Arc is handled this way. It just makes sense, cause it's so damn short. If anything it's PERFECT, to be adapted into a Movie.
When it comes to the question of how it'll play out afterwards, I can see your point. But this is the most logical step, for now. I don't think they're making a mistake.

True. Most likely there will be some cut material, later, because of this. But that's honestly fine with me. They did it with season 1 and it worked.
Let's just hope for an extra long season 2, when it arrives, I guess?^^

Mar 17, 12:27 PM

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knd944 said:
@Oongbuh Okay, okay... Have you even looked at the spoilers I gave? The arc isn't an arc in the manga. That's one spoiler for you. I'm being realistic. Okay? Realistically speaking, they have made the wrong choice for a film. And, realistically, they will ruin it all with the film. You understand?
It is stupid. And they should have done a season 2, instead of a film. They also should have made the anime longer, 24 episodes. And I believe it will flop. Mainly because manga readers, (yes, actual readers of the manga) will say the same thing as me: it isn't an arc. Just a small part of the manga. And it isn't even hype in my opinion.

It is a film sequel of a popular IP, in the anime and manga industry only. It won't get millions watching it, no. Because, like I said previously, the manga readers will not like it because it says Arc, and that's it. Do a little bit of research perhaps? I don't care about any films other than the one that is being discussed (because I don't know what the films you're referring to).
The Chainsaw Man film, I think, will get backlash, like another anime film I'm not going say here.
And MAPPA is already in a lot of trouble with rushing things lol. JJK 2 had sometimes terrible art. I have proof of it as well.
https://imgur.com/l09Pw73
https://imgur.com/G9IKL8W
Look at the eyes. I found that out straight away when watching episode 7.
Look, in the end, it's just my opinion. They should have done a season 2 instead of a film. I don't even like the idea of a film. Unless it's done correctly and cleverly. I will still watch it regardless because it is Chainsaw Man, but I will be extra critical. I might not watch it at the cinema as well. Just on Crunchyroll or elsewhere. Anyway, it's just an opinion. I think they're actually trying to ruin it to focus on Jujitsu Kaisen. And nobody's going to change my opinion.
Thanks.
(Also funny that you've completed 4 anime on MAL. And none are Chainsaw Man. Also, 0 mangas... LOL!)

I have never heard a manga reader say the Reze arc isn't an arc lol. And literally why would MAPPA intentionally ruin it to focus on JJK??? How does that make any sense???

@mafiahairspy There's a lot of manga readers lol. It isn't an arc. Just accept that.
Also, why? Because JJK has been awarded the best anime (according to Crunchyroll) this year. I'm not sure if it got awards every year, probably did, And that's pretty much why. I don't think Chainsaw Man had awards unfortunately. I mean, JJK 2 won anime of the year. And, although it's good, it didn't deserve anime of the year in my personal opinion.
If they were to focus exclusively on JJK, then it'd probably win a lot more awards and thus they have a lot of money and profits to work on more anime, or just go silent.
That's just business. If things don't work out, then they have to get rid of a project and move onto a new one. And, for MAPPA, JJK worked for them and they gained quite a bit I think, Chainsaw Man didn't do well I heard, so they'll intentionally ruin it and just focus on JJK.
This is all speculation and my personal opinion however. You can have yours, and I will have mine.
Thank you.

Mar 17, 12:29 PM

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the reze arc is better as a movie for uncensored glory

Mar 17, 12:31 PM

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knd944 said:
@mafiahairspy There's a lot of manga readers lol. It isn't an arc. Just accept that.
Also, why? Because JJK has been awarded the best anime (according to Crunchyroll) this year. I'm not sure if it got awards every year, probably did, And that's pretty much why. I don't think Chainsaw Man had awards unfortunately. I mean, JJK 2 won anime of the year. And, although it's good, it didn't deserve anime of the year in my personal opinion.
If they were to focus exclusively on JJK, then it'd probably win a lot more awards and thus they have a lot of money and profits to work on more anime, or just go silent.
That's just business. If things don't work out, then they have to get rid of a project and move onto a new one. And, for MAPPA, JJK worked for them and they gained quite a bit I think, Chainsaw Man didn't do well I heard, so they'll intentionally ruin it and just focus on JJK.
This is all speculation and my personal opinion however. You can have yours, and I will have mine.
Thank you.

Again, when discussing the arcs of chainsaw man, 99% of people consider this an arc. A new character is introduced, a whole story is told, and there's a very clear ending. I don't understand where your argument is coming from.

And as for JJK, you realize MAPPA can just choose to focus on it right? They don't have to make Chainsaw Man bad, they can just stop making it and focus on JJK. I don't understand why they would pour time and resources into an anime they want to fail lol.

Mar 17, 12:36 PM

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