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Do you consider AOT as a Shonen?
Feb 14, 2024 8:46 PM
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Basically I personally don't consider it as a Shonen cause AOT doesn't follow the basic Shonen tropes. Also no anime bs, I'll stick a photo for reference.
Most of the old shonen & even new gen shonens are full of anime BS. That's why I find AOT more mature & realistic.
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Feb 14, 2024 8:57 PM
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It doesn't matter in the slightest whether it's a shounen or it isn't.
If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that.
Feb 14, 2024 9:05 PM
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maybe it starts off as a shonen, but 4th season is wayy closer to a seinen imo
Feb 14, 2024 9:09 PM
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Being a shonen or not does not depend on their tropes, It depends on the type of audience it is aimed at, the fact that the series is "more serious" does not mean that aot is not a shonen
If it depended on that, death note would also be seinen but it's not
Feb 14, 2024 9:12 PM
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It is factually a shonen, but I would not think of recommending Attack on Titan when somebody ask for a shonen recommendation, because like you said, it doesn't feel like your typical shonen, just like how I wouldn't recommend K-On to somebody asking for seinen manga.

In the end these labels don't really mean much even if we have our own interpretation of it, Attack on Titan is still a shonen and that is a fact.
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Feb 14, 2024 9:29 PM
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aot is serialized by shounen magazine so it would be soft seinen with shounen archetypes
Feb 14, 2024 9:39 PM
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Tf you mean "consider". It's published in a shonen magazine. Hence, it will always be shonen. Nothing can change that fact.
Feb 14, 2024 9:43 PM
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Dude either way it doesn't matter whether it's shounen or seinen. Just because it was published in a shounen magazine despite having seinen type or more like darker shounen themes, it doesn't diminish anything about it.

These are just demographics at the end of the day and don't define a series's overall quality.
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Feb 14, 2024 10:18 PM
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all "shounen" means is that its target audience is teenage boys. you can still enjoy shounen as any age or gender, and it doesnt mean the story has any less value or meaning. attack on titan is shounen because its targeted towards teenage boys, and thats not a bad thing
Feb 14, 2024 10:18 PM
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it is a shonen by definition lol , but it ain't a battle shonen
Feb 14, 2024 10:59 PM
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It was published on Bessatsu Shōnen Magazine wich is a shonen magazine, so I think it's pretty safe to assume it's a shonen without any doubt
Feb 14, 2024 11:37 PM

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Ever heard of Wanda? It's a 1970 B movie that won awards internationally. Claiming that aot isn't a shonen because it doesn't have "anime BS" is like claiming Wanda isn't a B movie because the critics liked it. Definitions exist for a reason and you can't just redefine them when you feel like it.
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Feb 14, 2024 11:49 PM

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It's shounen and it has always been one, because it was serialized in Bessatsu Shounen Magazine. Therefore, it's target demographics naturally is called as "shounen" (so it's dedicated mostly to teenage boys and having their taste in mind first).

When it comes to form, it has always been a shounen as well. Opinions of clowns who used to be elitists yelling "muh seinen peak masterpiece", only to switch 180 degrees after one moment from the manga they didn't like and become haters of this series, shouldn't be and shouldn't have never been taken as something relevant, lol. If anything, then Attack on Titan leaned towards soft seinen at one point, with all its darker and more serious themes becoming more refined. But it was still a shounen by nature and it did not stop being that kind of a manga, even if it had elements that would surely please the older audience (i.e. the aforementioned seinen).

With having this in mind, does it matter at the end of a day, really? It's not like a different label will make this show any different, same goes with the manga. It's useful to get the general glimpse of what kind of entertainment a series can offer, but in the end, we all have different tastes and should just watch anime and read manga we simply find as entertaining. :)
Feb 15, 2024 12:14 AM
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it doesn't matter what someone thinks, shounen is shounen, a demographic has nothing to do with plot and story death note and devilman are also shounen and shin-chan is seinen so it doesn't really matter aot might be different than other action shounen but it is still a shounen
Feb 15, 2024 1:00 AM
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Reckless_weeb said:
Basically I personally don't consider it as a Shonen cause AOT doesn't follow the basic Shonen tropes. Also no anime bs, I'll stick a photo for reference.
Most of the old shonen & even new gen shonens are full of anime BS. That's why I find AOT more mature & realistic.

to me there is a lot of dumb things in AOT so it is close to shonen but it is not shonen nether seinen
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Reckless_weeb said:
Basically I personally don't consider it as a Shonen cause AOT doesn't follow the basic Shonen tropes. Also no anime bs, I'll stick a photo for reference.
Most of the old shonen & even new gen shonens are full of anime BS. That's why I find AOT more mature & realistic.

And One Punch Man that doesn't follow common seinen tropes is a seinen, so why can't Attack on Titan be shounen? The only thing that really matters is the magazine the manga, light novel etc was published.
Feb 15, 2024 1:05 AM
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Basically I personally don't consider it as a Shonen cause AOT doesn't follow the basic Shonen tropes. Also no anime bs, I'll stick a photo for reference.
Most of the old shonen & even new gen shonens are full of anime BS. That's why I find AOT more mature & realistic.

to me there is a lot of dumb things in AOT so it is close to shonen but it is not shonen nether seinen
@Yantama so it's what it was published in a Shonen magazine so the demographic it's Shonen period. A in between between Shonen and seinen don't exist for publishers. Just think about how hell the PR would be for something like that.
Feb 15, 2024 1:11 AM
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@Yantama so it's what it was published in a Shonen magazine so the demographic it's Shonen period. A in between between Shonen and seinen don't exist for publishers. Just think about how hell the PR would be for something like that.

so what you think it's?(shonen) (seinen) (something else)
Feb 15, 2024 1:17 AM
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@Yantama so it's what it was published in a Shonen magazine so the demographic it's Shonen period. A in between between Shonen and seinen don't exist for publishers. Just think about how hell the PR would be for something like that.

to me after rethinking I think it is shonen because there is couples of shonen anime is Better than AOT characters in the way the characters think and not underestimating the viewer's mind.
Feb 15, 2024 2:28 AM
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AOT is Shonen whether you like it or not. it doesn't matter how serious it is. the demographic its animed towards shows its Shonen.
Feb 15, 2024 2:56 AM
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it's published in Shounen magazine so it's shounen . Nothing would change that fact, it's not a genre it's a demography!
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Objectively it's a Shounen, but subjectively it's a Seinen in terms of maturity level.
It is asked what I consider and considerations are subjective, so I voted "No"

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its published in a shonen magazine so its shonen thats it

shonen is not a genre but a magazine label
Feb 15, 2024 3:24 AM
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Shonen or seinen. It doesn’t matter. Some shonen series can be more brutal than some seinen series.
If they say that it’s a shonen than it’s a shonen. That’s all.
Feb 15, 2024 3:28 AM
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Doesn’t matter what you consider it it’s a Shounen so end of discussion
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Neither it is a Romance.
Feb 15, 2024 6:13 AM
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well considering it as a shonen or seinen is not ur choice. it's objectively a shonen cuz it was published in a shonen magazine.
Feb 15, 2024 6:14 AM
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well considering it as a shonen or seinen is not ur choice. it's objectively a shonen cuz it was published in a shonen magazine.
Feb 15, 2024 6:39 AM
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lmao AOT basically copy-pasted code geass... "doesn't follow the basic Shonen tropes" lmao
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AOT is a shounen no matter what
Your lie in April is a shounen
K-On is a seinen
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Feb 15, 2024 8:58 AM
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I don't know about definitions regarding "Shounen" and "Seinen" but I'd say it is closer to seinen, purely because of what happens in ep 1 being quite a gruesome occurrence, with the same kind of things continuing throughout the entire series.

If people wanna argue its shounen then that's fine too.
Feb 15, 2024 9:28 AM
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I don't know about definitions regarding "Shounen" and "Seinen" but I'd say it is closer to seinen, purely because of what happens in ep 1 being quite a gruesome occurrence, with the same kind of things continuing throughout the entire series.

If people wanna argue its shounen then that's fine too.
@Hacker075 it's not arguing. Shonen and seinen are demographic not genre and those demographic depend on the magazine in which its published not the content of the story. Shingeki no Kyojin was published in a Shonen magazine so it's in the Shonen demographic end of the story. Non non biyori and one punch man are publish in seinen magazine so it's seinen even if nothing of those two series got any ressemblance whatsoever. That thing about a Shonen being a genre it's a misinformation that has been running for a long time in the west because back then the information wasn't available like it was today so it persist even if it's wrong. It's almost similar to a Mandela effect.
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@Hacker075 it's not arguing. Shonen and seinen are demographic not genre and those demographic depend on the magazine in which its published not the content of the story. Shingeki no Kyojin was published in a Shonen magazine so it's in the Shonen demographic end of the story. Non non biyori and one punch man are publish in seinen magazine so it's seinen even if nothing of those two series got any ressemblance whatsoever. That thing about a Shonen being a genre it's a misinformation that has been running for a long time in the west because back then the information wasn't available like it was today so it persist even if it's wrong. It's almost similar to a Mandela effect.

Isnt't shounen supposed to be aimed at a younger audience though? The story is far too intricate and symbolic for it to be understood by children.

I can't throw an apple into a box labelled 'oranges' and then get angry when you say it's an apple.
Feb 15, 2024 3:27 PM
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This is one of many things that’s wrong with the world these days, it doesn’t matter what you think or your opinion on it, facts are facts.
The fact is, it’s a shonen
Feb 15, 2024 4:18 PM
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Aot has plenty of shounen tropes 😂
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What's a "shounen trope"? How can a trope apply to anything aimed at a demographic?
Feb 15, 2024 4:48 PM
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@Hacker075 it's not arguing. Shonen and seinen are demographic not genre and those demographic depend on the magazine in which its published not the content of the story. Shingeki no Kyojin was published in a Shonen magazine so it's in the Shonen demographic end of the story. Non non biyori and one punch man are publish in seinen magazine so it's seinen even if nothing of those two series got any ressemblance whatsoever. That thing about a Shonen being a genre it's a misinformation that has been running for a long time in the west because back then the information wasn't available like it was today so it persist even if it's wrong. It's almost similar to a Mandela effect.

Isnt't shounen supposed to be aimed at a younger audience though? The story is far too intricate and symbolic for it to be understood by children.

I can't throw an apple into a box labelled 'oranges' and then get angry when you say it's an apple.
@Hacker075 Shonen it's teen demographic so 12 to 18 years old also intricate story have nothing to do with it. Claymore was intricate it was still published in a Shonen magazine. A best example of a gore seinen it's Gantz to see how the code differ between the two type of publication.
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It is a shounen, I can't see it as anything else
Feb 16, 2024 5:46 AM
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the big problem with the whole "is it shonen" debate is that shonen is just the name of the magazine

by that logic aot wouldn't be a shonen, but a kodansha
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the big problem with the whole "is it shonen" debate is that shonen is just the name of the magazine


It's not the name of the magazine, but its demographic.

perolero said:
by that logic aot wouldn't be a shonen, but a kodansha


Kodansha is the name of the publisher company, that's all.
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Feb 16, 2024 7:09 AM
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It’s a shōnen bc it’s published under a shōnen publisher. Y’all are forgetting shōnen is just a demographic.
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maybe it starts off as a shonen, but 4th season is wayy closer to a seinen imo
@Hamzov_Komrade 4th season was closer to Avengers
Feb 16, 2024 12:47 PM
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shonen until final season, maybe 3rd season
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AOT won't stop being shonen by how much the show conforms to Western stereotypes of shonen anime, or how hard elitists will try to rationalize why they like shonen anime even though they hate them.

@Monkey_D_Uzumaki Useless. The bias towards shonen anime has gotten so big that people are willing to do the most crass magical thinking to not admit that they might like shonen titles.
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It was published in a shonen magazine. This isn’t a question up for debate.
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Why do people get so worked up or whether AOT is shounen or seinen?
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It does adhere to at least a few battle shounen tropes, and even if it didn't it'd still be shounen. It was published in a shounen magazine and primarily geared towards an audience of teenage boys. Shounen, much like shoujo, isn't a genre descriptor so much as it is a way to categorize anime and manga by intended demographics. It's why both Naruto and Slam Dunk are both shounen despite one being an action fantasy series about ninjas and the other being a basketball series.
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It literally is a shonen lol it was in kodansha shonen msg
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The series is made in a fucking Shounen magazine...there's no if, ands or buts about it being a Shounen. Shounen is not a genre it's a damn demographic.
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It's simply a shonen and nothing more. It's ridiculous to deny it just because you consider it more "mature" and "realistic". I understand your skewed thought process of ascribing the "depth" that you perceive to the seinen side, but no, at the end of the day, it's an anime oriented to a teenage audience. It was published by a shonen magazine so its demographic is sentenced. Likewise it's quite prejudiced of you to give so much relevance to the demographic issue, it's simply a label.
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