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Oct 27, 2023 1:54 AM
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Rurouni Kenshin is one of the old, popular shonen anime. It has always been known for its hype moments. However, in 2023, it's not receiving the same praise. Maybe the new generation of anime fans doesn't like it, or perhaps Rurouni Kenshin 2023 is just starting slow. The older version had higher ratings, but the 2023 adaptation is not getting as much attention. So, what do you think?
Oct 27, 2023 2:23 AM
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anime-alchemy said:
Rurouni Kenshin is one of the old, popular shonen anime. It has always been known for its hype moments. However, in 2023, it's not receiving the same praise. Maybe the new generation of anime fans doesn't like it, or perhaps Rurouni Kenshin 2023 is just starting slow. The older version had higher ratings, but the 2023 adaptation is not getting as much attention. So, what do you think?

A bit saddened that they do not watch in many. It is a shame because it deserves as much this remake.
Oct 27, 2023 2:28 AM
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I remember the beginning of the original being all over the place and kinda meh, even as a kid. It didn't fully pick up for me until Shishio entered the frame and I think this adaptation is suffering from that same beginning lag.

On the other hand, the 1996 version was the gateway through which many got introduced to anime in the west, so it benefits greatly from the nostalgia factor, which commonly boosts ratings for older shows.

That, in addition to it airing before the manga author got charged with possession of child porn, may also play a factor since it gained massive notoriety at a time where the series could stand on its own merits, which is not necessarily the case with the recent one since public opinion on the authors' private lives play heavily into the perception of the public in the age of Twitter and cancel culture. All in all, I see it as an upgrade but it still feels lackluster by modern standards, and I am not talking about production but rather the story itself.

Oh, and people rarely accept remakes kindly and with grace nowadays, so there's also that.
Oct 27, 2023 2:52 AM
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Because of the mangaka's yikes life choices mudding the series in the eyes of the increasingly young/woke anime community lol

We veterans of the series know the remake is pretty 🔥 so it's just for us at this point
Oct 27, 2023 6:48 AM
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Basically what the others have said above me. I would also add that it didn't seem like much advertising went into this remake so many who might genuinely like this just never came across it.
If we're being honest, from the outside looking in RK is just "another" samurai story, so any newcomers might be turned off by that fact if they think the genre is saturated. Not to mention that some of the tropes which may have been new in the 90s have been done repeatedly at this point.
It's a shame really cause this story offers more than other samurai stuff I've seen.
Oct 27, 2023 7:10 AM
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@anime-alchemy To be honest, I don't think I had as many choices of anime to watch back then. There was no DVR or Roku, so you couldn't watch anytime you wanted. So could have been popular for the fact you watch what's available at the moment. There wasn't much competition as far I remember one TV channel played anime back then.
Oct 27, 2023 7:33 AM
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Cartier117 said:
from the outside looking in RK is just "another" samurai story, so any newcomers might be turned off by that fact if they think the genre is saturated.


Which is funny , because actually , there is not that many Animes/Mangas about Samurais.
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Oct 27, 2023 7:44 AM
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I think part of it is that Kenshin starts off a bit slow and takes its time at first. I think that maybe that was more the norm in the 90s, but with the flood of options now, if some people aren’t hooked in 1-3 episodes, they drop a show and move on to something else.
Oct 27, 2023 9:57 AM
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Cartier117 said:
Basically what the others have said above me. I would also add that it didn't seem like much advertising went into this remake so many who might genuinely like this just never came across it.
If we're being honest, from the outside looking in RK is just "another" samurai story, so any newcomers might be turned off by that fact if they think the genre is saturated. Not to mention that some of the tropes which may have been new in the 90s have been done repeatedly at this point.
It's a shame really cause this story offers more than other samurai stuff I've seen.

Reminder that Kenshin isnt a Samurai....the topic is present in the show thought due to the era, but it is not a "samurai show".
Oct 27, 2023 10:04 AM
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anime-alchemy said:
Rurouni Kenshin is one of the old, popular shonen anime. It has always been known for its hype moments. However, in 2023, it's not receiving the same praise. Maybe the new generation of anime fans doesn't like it, or perhaps Rurouni Kenshin 2023 is just starting slow. The older version had higher ratings, but the 2023 adaptation is not getting as much attention. So, what do you think?

Promotion is solid over in Japan, not the west. The anime is doing great over there. Mainly, people are allergic to the word (reboot). In their head, why would they watch the "the same show again? Why not another story they havent seen?" In the end it is their loss, but its usually how it goes. What author did has little impact on how many didnt watch it. It is just a very vocal and hypocrite minority who can't separate artwork from the author; yet they go around living their lives using, consuming and being surrounded by things made by people who have done worse without batting an eye. And even them bend the knee and still watch it when no one is looking.
Oct 27, 2023 10:13 AM

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anime-alchemy said:
Rurouni Kenshin is one of the old, popular shonen anime. It has always been known for its hype moments. However, in 2023, it's not receiving the same praise. Maybe the new generation of anime fans doesn't like it, or perhaps Rurouni Kenshin 2023 is just starting slow. The older version had higher ratings, but the 2023 adaptation is not getting as much attention. So, what do you think?

Promotion is solid over in Japan, not the west. The anime is doing great over there. Mainly, people are allergic to the word (reboot). In their head, why would they watch the "the same show again? Why not another story they havent seen?" In the end it is their loss, but its usually how it goes. What author did has little impact on how many didnt watch it. It is just a very vocal and hypocrite minority who can't separate artwork from the author; yet they go around living their lives using, consuming and being surrounded by things made by people who have done worse without batting an eye. And even them bend the knee and still watch it when no one is looking.
KenshinXHimura said:
yet they go around living their lives using, consuming and being surrounded by things made by people who have done worse without batting an eye


Oh believe me I get it. People love to pretend like they are taking some moral high ground when it comes to political stuff, and then go ahead and do something hypocritical the very next instance.

Glad to hear the anime is doing well in Japan. I was worried that we might not get future seasons, but maybe there's hope.
Oct 27, 2023 12:52 PM
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Some people care about great animation and graphic, some people care about fight and op,ed, some people care about how faithful manga is. I care about all of them but most thing I care about is charachter's art and design also ost.

First I watched betrayal and trust, it was so perfect in term of oat and charachter design and good art
Then I decided to watch remake but this remake hasn't those ost and charachter's design and it's like rushed and for kids
(Just in term of charchter design and ost) so I dropped it at first episode and decided to watch original, and I prefer original, I enjoy it more
And I know it isn't faithful but I enjoy it more than remake.

Unfortunately anime fans 😑 nowadays don't care a shit about charchter design and good art
Just a good graphic and a good op and Ed is enough for them
They even don't care much about ost like they were
Oct 27, 2023 5:00 PM

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It's not because of what Nobuhiro sensei did, because if that was the case then American citizens wouldn't have voted on a disgusting demential molester. My take is that this remake is quite souless and the real thing starts later, at least that's why it puts me off in the moment.

Oct 27, 2023 5:44 PM
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Imo as someone who has yet to watch the original, it just isn't that interesting as of now. Hoping that the payoff is actually worth it but atm it's kinda generic.
Oct 28, 2023 2:00 AM
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luketanyr said:
Imo as someone who has yet to watch the original, it just isn't that interesting as of now. Hoping that the payoff is actually worth it but atm it's kinda generic.

It is, wait for season 2 onwards.
Oct 29, 2023 2:26 AM

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Some people care about great animation and graphic, some people care about fight and op,ed, some people care about how faithful manga is. I care about all of them but most thing I care about is charachter's art and design also ost.

First I watched betrayal and trust, it was so perfect in term of oat and charachter design and good art
Then I decided to watch remake but this remake hasn't those ost and charachter's design and it's like rushed and for kids
(Just in term of charchter design and ost) so I dropped it at first episode and decided to watch original, and I prefer original, I enjoy it more
And I know it isn't faithful but I enjoy it more than remake.

Unfortunately anime fans 😑 nowadays don't care a shit about charchter design and good art
Just a good graphic and a good op and Ed is enough for them
They even don't care much about ost like they were
@Zero01guard I agree with you, I think this is closer to the root cause than many people give it credit for. Presentation is a big part of making the work enjoyable to watch, otherwise people would just go read a summary over in the wiki, and the '96 version was a master at that. I always thought someone getting into Kenshin through this anime for the first time in 2023 will be put off by the presentation here, so I appreciate your post here 🙂
Oct 29, 2023 2:30 AM

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anime-alchemy said:
Rurouni Kenshin is one of the old, popular shonen anime. It has always been known for its hype moments. However, in 2023, it's not receiving the same praise. Maybe the new generation of anime fans doesn't like it, or perhaps Rurouni Kenshin 2023 is just starting slow. The older version had higher ratings, but the 2023 adaptation is not getting as much attention. So, what do you think?

Promotion is solid over in Japan, not the west. The anime is doing great over there. Mainly, people are allergic to the word (reboot). In their head, why would they watch the "the same show again? Why not another story they havent seen?" In the end it is their loss, but its usually how it goes. What author did has little impact on how many didnt watch it. It is just a very vocal and hypocrite minority who can't separate artwork from the author; yet they go around living their lives using, consuming and being surrounded by things made by people who have done worse without batting an eye. And even them bend the knee and still watch it when no one is looking.
@KenshinXHimura honestly I see a lot of promotion for Jujutsu Kaisen merchandise, Oshi no Ko, even some for Chainsaw Man might still be around, but zero for Kenshin here in Tokyo, I don't get the feeling of it being very well promoted...
May I ask you which statistic you are referring about the anime doing well in Japan?

Edit: as a fun anecdote recently, I went to do groceries a few weeks ago, and when I entered the supermarket, I noticed they were playing "1/3 no Junjou na Kanjou" (and later other 90's hits) 😅
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It's a combination of things but it's mostly that this isn't as good as the original.

Soundtrack is bland and generic, animation is terribly cheap aside from a few flashy action scenes, there isn't as much comedy and characters feel kinda soulless, Kenshin's voice actress, and so on.

Even ignoring the 96 anime, this isn't a great anime. Production quality feels from cheap to average at best, again the soundtrack is forgettable and doesn't fit the old Japanese theme (unlike series like Naruto, Inuyasha, ...96 Kenshin?). It's faithful to the source but it feels slow (a flaw also seen in the original but that one has filler! No excuses here).

idk man I feel like folks around here are over appreciating this adaptation. It isn't great, it's decent at best. That's what happened. And also, the author controversy and some idiots wanting to bring this anime down just for that.
Oct 31, 2023 6:38 AM

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from the outside looking in RK is just "another" samurai story, so any newcomers might be turned off by that fact if they think the genre is saturated.


Which is funny , because actually , there is not that many Animes/Mangas about Samurais.
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There are a good few, that have samurai, or samurai like characters.

Even recently, there was revenger, hell's paradise and blades of the guardians.

It's not common, common, but there are a few every year.
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I haven't read the series or watched the original anime. It comes to me as a surprise that this remake isn't that well-received for many people. But to be honest, I'm enjoying the remake so far. The characters are interesting and the action is great. The soundtrack is a bit meh but I don't really mind.

I always knew that this series is popular from the live-action and how it is depicted on Shonen Jump as one the popular series so that's why I give this remake a try.

I even surprised that at one time the author was charged of child pornography possession. Still, I know how to differentiate the art and the artist, so I'm okay with it (still unacceptable act tho lol).
Nov 6, 2023 9:07 PM
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The Kyoto Arc will have a seperate release since this is seasonal while the original show was airing as a long running show. Give it time.
Nov 7, 2023 4:32 PM

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its a shockingly bland series, I remember it having so much more entertaining slice of life, comedy, and character interactions but I guess that might of all been anime only stuff. Almost all of this has been pretty stale and severely lacking in energy. I think the worst part is the series picks up when its dealing with historical aspects but basically every time its turned to action its a snoozefest.

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Nov 8, 2023 12:01 AM

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its a shockingly bland series, I remember it having so much more entertaining slice of life, comedy, and character interactions but I guess that might of all been anime only stuff. Almost all of this has been pretty stale and severely lacking in energy. I think the worst part is the series picks up when its dealing with historical aspects but basically every time its turned to action its a snoozefest.
@JizzyHitler it was not anime-only, this show skips some of the gags from the source-material and is generally much less expressive in its presentation when compared to both the manga (obviously) and the 96 version, that's why it feels bland. When compared to Kenshin '96, even the voice acting is severely lacking in range and is more akin to hearing an audiobook narration than actual voice actors in my opinion, not to mention the OSTs, etc
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@JizzyHitler it was not anime-only, this show skips some of the gags from the source-material and is generally much less expressive in its presentation when compared to both the manga (obviously) and the 96 version, that's why it feels bland. When compared to Kenshin '96, even the voice acting is severely lacking in range and is more akin to hearing an audiobook narration than actual voice actors in my opinion, not to mention the OSTs, etc
@Perrin4869 thatd explain it. I do think the ost is decent but it does lack personality which in turn makes the show lack atmosphere.

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Nov 18, 2023 6:55 AM

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I'm loving this! It's what I've been waiting for. Finally, a nearly straight adaptation of the manga. The original story is perfection; no need for fillers.

I do wish that some of the humor had been left intact and the soundtrack could be better, but it is what it is.

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