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My Happy Marriage (light novel)
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Sep 8, 2023 4:49 AM
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Are yall watching the show with your eyes closed? Just because Miyo got married doesn't mean she's going to suddenly do a 180
Sep 8, 2023 4:54 AM
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What a weird war is going on! nevertheless the threads are entertaining. Keep going...

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Sep 8, 2023 4:58 AM
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Bunch of beta's picking on Miyo so fucking dumb.
Sep 8, 2023 4:59 AM
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Chronon said:
What a weird war is going on! nevertheless the threads are entertaining. Keep going...

Yeah... At least it's not that guy Way2Gay4Me again.
Sep 8, 2023 4:59 AM
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Bunch of beta's picking on Miyo so fucking dumb.

You're absolutely right. πŸ‘Œ
Sep 8, 2023 5:24 AM
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You are referring to literally one guy and two troll threads he created.
Yes, I'm giving that guy a benefit of the doubt and assuming he is just trolling, because the alternative would be that he is just an idiot.

A normal person with a bare minimum of media literacy and IQ above room temperature would understand perfectly well, that a person with nonexistent self esteem and confidence would have a hard time finding herself in completely new environment, making an important decision for herself and would prioritize not being a burden above all else.
People who do not understand something that obvious simply cannot relate to Miyo nor understand her circumstances and are more similar to how Kaya was.

Sep 8, 2023 5:30 AM
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Piromysl said:
You are referring to literally one guy and two troll threads he created.
Yes, I'm giving that guy a benefit of the doubt and assuming he is just trolling, because the alternative would be that he is just an idiot.

A normal person with a bare minimum of media literacy and IQ above room temperature would understand perfectly well, that a person with nonexistent self esteem and confidence would have a hard time finding herself in completely new environment, making an important decision for herself and would prioritize not being a burden above all else.
People who do not understand something that obvious simply cannot relate to Miyo nor understand her circumstances and are more similar to how Kaya was.

not necessarily on mal (cant take anybody seriously on this site), ive seen people talking about this in a comment section on the episode and they were genuinely annoyed with Miyo. some were straight up saying she gets on their nerves and some were like "i get her trauma but-" so yeah people like that exist, some just dont understand mental health ig
Sep 8, 2023 5:34 AM
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kiyxzii said:
Piromysl said:
You are referring to literally one guy and two troll threads he created.
Yes, I'm giving that guy a benefit of the doubt and assuming he is just trolling, because the alternative would be that he is just an idiot.

A normal person with a bare minimum of media literacy and IQ above room temperature would understand perfectly well, that a person with nonexistent self esteem and confidence would have a hard time finding herself in completely new environment, making an important decision for herself and would prioritize not being a burden above all else.
People who do not understand something that obvious simply cannot relate to Miyo nor understand her circumstances and are more similar to how Kaya was.

not necessarily on mal (cant take anybody seriously on this site), ive seen people talking about this in a comment section on the episode and they were genuinely annoyed with Miyo. some were straight up saying she gets on their nerves and some were like "i get her trauma but-" so yeah people like that exist, some just dont understand mental health ig

As I said, those are people more similar to Kaya.
They've been living their entire lives spoiled and in privilege, so they can't understand someone's hardship and due to their lack of understanding in the matter they think such behaviour is irrational and deserving of scrutiny just like anyone who disagrees with them.
Welcome to the current year, were social media rots brains away and convinces people, that they are the main character in this world.

Sep 8, 2023 5:38 AM
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Piromysl said:
You are referring to literally one guy and two troll threads he created.
Yes, I'm giving that guy a benefit of the doubt and assuming he is just trolling, because the alternative would be that he is just an idiot.

A normal person with a bare minimum of media literacy and IQ above room temperature would understand perfectly well, that a person with nonexistent self esteem and confidence would have a hard time finding herself in completely new environment, making an important decision for herself and would prioritize not being a burden above all else.
People who do not understand something that obvious simply cannot relate to Miyo nor understand her circumstances and are more similar to how Kaya was.

Sadly it's not just him everywhere i go in social media especially facebook many people are being harsh on miyo .

Poor girl can't catch a break
Sep 8, 2023 6:23 AM
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Issax28 said:
Are yall watching the show with your eyes closed? Just because Miyo got married doesn't mean she's going to suddenly do a 180

Fact omg πŸ«ΆπŸ½πŸ’œ
Sep 8, 2023 6:34 AM
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Sterall said:
Chronon said:
What a weird war is going on! nevertheless the threads are entertaining. Keep going...

Yeah... At least it's not that guy Way2Gay4Me again.

yes he is always against Miyo he calls himself real shojou fan
Sep 8, 2023 6:35 AM

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Sterall said:
Chronon said:
What a weird war is going on! nevertheless the threads are entertaining. Keep going...

Yeah... At least it's not that guy Way2Gay4Me again.

I couldn't care less either way, neither I've any interest in this anime. But MAL app keep pushing these threads in my feed because I've put the anime on-hold.

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Sep 8, 2023 7:26 AM
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Being frank?

Because it’s boring. That’s the main reason why people are complaining.

And no, it’s not just two threads. Complaints about the main heroine of this series being bland is easily the biggest one I’ve seen in social media as a whole.

Not because it doesn’t make sense or because people who were abused can’t realistically act like that. SOME people would.

But that’s the thing: it’s not really an iron rule like many of you are trying to say it is. Not EVERYONE who was abused would lack personality to THIS extent. Just look at Michael Jackson lmao. Bro had an historically fucked up (and arguably much worse than Mio’s) childhood and he was beyond mentally broken, but he still didn’t lack a personality by any means. Quite the opposite.

Making Mio’s personality nonexistent was a conscious choice. Most people, even people who were abused, would at least show some selfishness in their OWN FUCKING THOUGHTS, which Mio doesn’t seem to do at all.

Her ACTS make complete sense, sure, but her thoughts are exaggeratedly selfless and bland and nothing will convince me otherwise.

Even for women of her time period, which were remarkably more submissive, it’s not like females didn’t have personalities at all. Just look at Kaya, the old lady or literally any other woman that ever shows up in this series.

Mio isn’t well defined because she’s “submissive”, “scared” or “broken”.

At the end of the day, that’s LITERALLY all she is. We can’t point out a single other thing about her personality.

And sure, that isn’t a plot-hole or anything. It CAN make sense. Many people COULD act like that in real life after suffering as much as she did.

But not EVERYONE. And most definitely not TO THIS EXTENT to the point even her thoughts would show zero individuality.

It’s exaggerated.

And hell, in real life, people who suffered MUCH more than she ever did generally don’t turn out like that, anyways. Even as a general rule, it doesn’t work at all.

And sure, one can defend it’s not impossible that someone would turn out to be fully submissive (even in thoughts) after being literally taught to be like that from a very young age.

Thing is, it’s not “likely”. It’s just “not impossible”.

The author could very well make it so she had just a tiny bit more of personality at least in her own thoughts. And it would not only be more believable, but also just more fun to watch. That’s the most important thing about Mio: she’s bland.

At the end of the day, Mio is a borderline self-insert for female audiences. People will get triggered over me saying this, but it’s the painful truth.

An incredibly beautiful heroine who lacks confidence and has a crap-ton of obvious potential doesn’t realise her own potential because she doesn’t have an inch of self-confidence because her sister/mother are cartoonishly evil and her father is a dipshit.

Then she gets rescued by a cartoonishly perfect hot guy who will not only love her unconditionally but also fix all of her unresolved trauma with the power of money, literal fire and political influence.

Hell, now that I’m describing it, I’m realising the plot is really outdated in a very good way lmao. The west nowadays (aka: the feminist march) seems to be heading in a frightening direction which rejects this kind of story, so I’m glad some women still enjoy it like normal people.

But that’s WAY besides the point.

Point being, I think Mio is a 7/10 character, so don’t get me wrong, she isn’t BAD by any means.

But frankly, she wasted what could have been a solid 9/10 or even a 10/10.
Sep 8, 2023 7:37 AM
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I've seen the same types of comments on Zom100s Latest episode where people were Saying that The MC can't even decide what's good for him whilst they keep forgetting the PTSD and the trauma he has from his boss

The same thing is happening to Miyo here.
People refuse to understand that this is a weekly anime and a slice of life type of anime so there won't be sudden bursts of character development but the show will take it slowly

Honestly even I was annoyed as she couldn't decide to stay with the person she loved but then I realised that's the base of Miyos character

In Every episode u can see Miyo asking permission for the slightest things
This shows that she lacks self confidence and initiative to do things on her own

How her character was portrayed from the beginning till here it makes Perfect sense for her to take the decision also considering her PTSD from her family and also It needs to be this way to keep the plot going or we won't know about the Usubas and Miyos Power

Sorry for making it so Long If u read it then good 😊
Might be the most easiest way to explain tho it's long
Sep 8, 2023 7:39 AM
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Chronon said:
What a weird war is going on! nevertheless the threads are entertaining. Keep going...

At least someones Enjoying MAL forumsπŸ˜‚
Sep 8, 2023 9:40 AM
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most of the people on this forum probably are in denial of abuse
Sep 8, 2023 9:59 AM
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Sterall said:
Chronon said:
What a weird war is going on! nevertheless the threads are entertaining. Keep going...

Yeah... At least it's not that guy Way2Gay4Me again.

nah fr that guy is so annoying
Sep 8, 2023 11:05 AM
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kyo_1 said:
Sterall said:

Yeah... At least it's not that guy Way2Gay4Me again.

nah fr that guy is so annoying

I know.😰😰.
Sep 8, 2023 11:11 AM

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I think that is because people just aren't as mature, developed and clever as you are.
They don't understand. You do.
Sep 8, 2023 11:24 AM

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Damn that way2gay4me guy really had such an impact through his threads.
If you enjoyed the time you wasted, then its not a waste of time.

Sep 8, 2023 12:38 PM
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Lack of life experience in the real world.
Sep 8, 2023 12:44 PM
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Issax28 said:
Are yall watching the show with your eyes closed? Just because Miyo got married doesn't mean she's going to suddenly do a 180

These people are amateur and dumb πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚. Cant even understand actual human psychology
Sep 8, 2023 2:38 PM
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Not that I fully agree with the other thread but there's a point to that argument which is that Miyo can show her resolve on several occasions when she needs to, the two clear example would be when she got tortured by the Saimori's and when she rejected Koji. What happened with this conflict is almost a carbon copy of the previous one(Miyo doubts herself, got held hostage and then finally showed resolve amidst the conflict).

It's not only Miyo who showed inconsistencies with her character, Kiyoka also does. For someone that's potrayed to be cool headed and reasonable, it's really easy to provoke him, made him lose temper, and be unreasonable. It's as if the main characters were dumbed down for the sake of the arc.
Sep 8, 2023 2:39 PM

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People expect a perfect character. Theyre too used to shitty generic protagonists.
Keep scrolling
Sep 8, 2023 6:18 PM

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It feels like you guys are fetishizing trauma here. Problem is, Miyo doesn't have any character besides her trauma. Her trauma IS her character lol. Which makes this whole thing feel void.
Sep 8, 2023 6:19 PM

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Not that I fully agree with the other thread but there's a point to that argument which is that Miyo can show her resolve on several occasions when she needs to, the two clear example would be when she got tortured by the Saimori's and when she rejected Koji. What happened with this conflict is almost a carbon copy of the previous one(Miyo doubts herself, got held hostage and then finally showed resolve amidst the conflict).

It's not only Miyo who showed inconsistencies with her character, Kiyoka also does. For someone that's potrayed to be cool headed and reasonable, it's really easy to provoke him, made him lose temper, and be unreasonable. It's as if the main characters were dumbed down for the sake of the arc.
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It's as if the main characters were dumbed down for the sake of the arc.


That's how shoujos actually work.
Sep 8, 2023 7:48 PM

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It’s not that she doesn’t have personality. If you think about what actions she took in every episode she has plenty of traits by now.

It’s that the ones complaining want loud, strong, smart and determined as character traits. Bratty and even rude are also somewhat desired.
She’s almost in complete opposition to this, safe for episode 6 where she stood her ground against her main abusers.

Guess bland just means she doesn’t have what traits they wanted and won’t even acknowledge the traits she has because they don’t want to.
Funny enough the “most desired” char traits are probably the most bland, since almost all the other chars from other series have them

I think the character is ok so far. Nothing too special, but not bad either.
Sep 8, 2023 8:05 PM

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Hot_Green_Tea said:
Not that I fully agree with the other thread but there's a point to that argument which is that Miyo can show her resolve on several occasions when she needs to, the two clear example would be when she got tortured by the Saimori's and when she rejected Koji. What happened with this conflict is almost a carbon copy of the previous one(Miyo doubts herself, got held hostage and then finally showed resolve amidst the conflict).

It's not only Miyo who showed inconsistencies with her character, Kiyoka also does. For someone that's potrayed to be cool headed and reasonable, it's really easy to provoke him, made him lose temper, and be unreasonable. It's as if the main characters were dumbed down for the sake of the arc.

He’s really prideful. Starts the series by asserting that he is always right and that she should kill herself if he says so.
Prob hasn’t lost a fight before.
With that much confidence and pride when challenged the duel would be hard to turn down
Sep 9, 2023 3:05 AM
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She stood up against her family who were the reason for her trauma but cant stand up for kudo over the usubas eventhough he told her almost every time for her to be just honest with him. She literally didn't even react when that guy Arata said that kudo doesn't care about her. Don't use trauma as an excuse for her stupidity.

Also people like kaya are far better than people like arata.
Sep 9, 2023 4:09 AM
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We're not shocked but disappointed. My happy marriage has entered my 'top favorite' list for its romance and the beautiful couple. Just a few words from her wouldn't have caused this separation. Still Miyo is not to be blamed as everything is controlled by the author. My only grieve is that it has left only 2 more episodes and the 2nd season is 2years later. Which means they might not bring Miyo back in this season and i don't want to end the 1st season of my favorite show with such tragedy. We just wanted to see their actual 'happy marriage '.
Sep 9, 2023 4:13 AM
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The blame is not on Miyo. Thinking from the author it might be a good turn or plot but for viewers their greive is to wait years for the next season to come and (probably)be able to see their favorite couple together.
Sep 9, 2023 4:31 AM

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Just because something is realistic doesn't mean it's interesting to watch. I was enjoying this show at first, but I ended up dropping it episode 9 because it was starting to get boring to me.

Miyo's personality just isn't my cup of tea. I thought she would have made some more progress. It's only a 12 ep anime, but she's barely changed. That's fine, but personally I just had no more desire to keep watching.
Sep 9, 2023 4:57 AM
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Because this episode might be very intense as the K-Drama named The Glory. I wish Miyo takes revenge, but good thing her fiancé Kudo takes revenge on the Saimoris.
Sep 9, 2023 6:33 AM
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Just because something is realistic doesn't mean it's interesting to watch. I was enjoying this show at first, but I ended up dropping it episode 9 because it was starting to get boring to me.

Miyo's personality just isn't my cup of tea. I thought she would have made some more progress. It's only a 12 ep anime, but she's barely changed. That's fine, but personally I just had no more desire to keep watching.
@YayPepsi "Just because something is realistic doesn't mean it's interesting to watch"
Precisely.
Sep 9, 2023 10:36 AM
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Nah, I’m more pissed at the fact that she somehow keeps on thinking that she is a nuisance to her fiance even though he told her MULTIPLE times that that's not the case, like he went out of his way to try to make it clear to her, but she just didn't seem to listen to him, even one bit
Sep 9, 2023 11:08 AM
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Must be black clover fans (this is a joke please don't flick boogers at me)

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