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why didn't she stop it? she basically let it happen? and later on when Maru comes to kill him she even stops him?????? the writing for this plot doesn't make sense.
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skillpower said:
why didn't she stop it? she basically let it happen? and later on when Maru comes to kill him she even stops him?????? the writing for this plot doesn't make sense.

Because she was handcuffed. They show it in the same chapter.
Jun 22, 2023 1:14 AM
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tied or handcuffed idk
Jun 22, 2023 1:16 AM
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Anzuelo said:
skillpower said:
why didn't she stop it? she basically let it happen? and later on when Maru comes to kill him she even stops him?????? the writing for this plot doesn't make sense.

Because she was handcuffed. They show it in the same chapter.

she can easily break it off, and she could've done something before, and she didn't even fight back.
Jun 22, 2023 1:17 AM
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tied or handcuffed idk

she can easily break it off, and she could've done something before, and she didn't even fight back.
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skillpower said:
why didn't she stop it? she basically let it happen? and later on when Maru comes to kill him she even stops him?????? the writing for this plot doesn't make sense.

his desires for his sister maybe
Jun 22, 2023 1:38 AM
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skillpower said:
why didn't she stop it? she basically let it happen? and later on when Maru comes to kill him she even stops him?????? the writing for this plot doesn't make sense.

Alot of r*pe victims often loose the will to fight and just except it. It’s quite common for people to not run away from situations like that. Alot of people just become a deer in headlights a just freeze up out of fear.
Jun 22, 2023 1:40 AM
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SparCy said:
skillpower said:
why didn't she stop it? she basically let it happen? and later on when Maru comes to kill him she even stops him?????? the writing for this plot doesn't make sense.

Alot of r*pe victims often loose the will to fight and just except it. It’s quite common for people to not run away from situations like that. Alot of people just become a deer in headlights a just freeze up out of fear.

I would understand this but the problem is (spoilers) later on she protects him from Maru, which is the dumbest shit ever.
Jun 22, 2023 1:58 AM
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well i think she didint do nothing beacuse she just loves him
Jun 22, 2023 2:09 AM
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She trusts Robin to death. So much she’ll want to get ræped by him.
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She trusts Robin to death. So much she’ll want to get ræped by him.

Don’t you think if she wanted this, it wouldn’t be called „rape” dude 💀 yes, she trusted him so she was shocked what was going on, mixed with betrayal
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skillpower said:
why didn't she stop it? she basically let it happen? and later on when Maru comes to kill him she even stops him?????? the writing for this plot doesn't make sense.
The writing of this plot totally makes sense when you looked at testimonies of victims in real life and think about Kiruko's psychology.
Rape victims, especially by someone they trust, are in a state of shock when it happens, they just can't believe that's happening to them. This is well documented. They can't resist or fight. It leaves then in a state of helplessness that can last days. This is definitely what happens to Kiruko here.
And the reason she doesn't want Maru to be killled is also well documented. When the rape is perpetrated by someone she trusts, the victim still finds very difficult to blame the criminal.
In the case of Kiruko, there is another very important reason: she doesn't want Maru to be Robin's killer, since this would ruin the care free relationship she has with him. And she just realized that this relationship is the most important thing she has left, now that Robin is out.
Jun 22, 2023 3:13 AM
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rvdboom said:
skillpower said:
why didn't she stop it? she basically let it happen? and later on when Maru comes to kill him she even stops him?????? the writing for this plot doesn't make sense.
The writing of this plot totally makes sense when you looked at testimonies of victims in real life and think about Kiruko's psychology.
Rape victims, especially by someone they trust, are in a state of shock when it happens, they just can't believe that's happening to them. This is well documented. They can't resist or fight. It leaves then in a state of helplessness that can last days. This is definitely what happens to Kiruko here.
And the reason she doesn't want Maru to be killled is also well documented. When the rape is perpetrated by someone she trusts, the victim still finds very difficult to blame the criminal.
In the case of Kiruko, there is another very important reason: she doesn't want Maru to be Robin's killer, since this would ruin the care free relationship she has with him. And she just realized that this relationship is the most important thing she has left, now that Robin is out.

I'm sorry but that literally makes no sense and in no way realistic.
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skillpower said:
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The writing of this plot totally makes sense when you looked at testimonies of victims in real life and think about Kiruko's psychology.
Rape victims, especially by someone they trust, are in a state of shock when it happens, they just can't believe that's happening to them. This is well documented. They can't resist or fight. It leaves then in a state of helplessness that can last days. This is definitely what happens to Kiruko here.
And the reason she doesn't want Maru to be killled is also well documented. When the rape is perpetrated by someone she trusts, the victim still finds very difficult to blame the criminal.
In the case of Kiruko, there is another very important reason: she doesn't want Maru to be Robin's killer, since this would ruin the care free relationship she has with him. And she just realized that this relationship is the most important thing she has left, now that Robin is out.

I'm sorry but that literally makes no sense and in no way realistic.

It is, you just don’t know what you’re talking about. There are tons of women who don’t go to the authorities about what happened due to not wanting to ruin the assailants life, or thinking “they didn’t mean it that way”. They sometimes just dismiss that anything even happened due to shock, and not wanting to accept what happened. What that guy said is completely correct about her and Maru’s relationship as well, she didn’t want to turn him into a killer for her sake, especially killing someone she loved and trusted. Victims are humans, and with that come varied forms of responses and coping mechanisms. There is no one correct way to respond to trauma.
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skillpower said:
I'm sorry but that literally makes no sense and in no way realistic.
I've already discussed this situation with real victims, including in my own family, and it's totally realistic.
Check this wikipedia article, particularly the acute stage : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_trauma_syndrome
This is because most people don't understand this that many rape victims are not believed, particularly by the police.
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skillpower said:
why didn't she stop it? she basically let it happen? and later on when Maru comes to kill him she even stops him?????? the writing for this plot doesn't make sense.

1) she was handcuffed
2) Robin was his best friend at one time and she was kind of traumatize so her brain wasn't working properly (it was probably blank)
3) In rape cases people kind of lose the will to fight, and even more when someone you admired does it.


Mod Edit: Removed baiting.
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skillpower said:
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The writing of this plot totally makes sense when you looked at testimonies of victims in real life and think about Kiruko's psychology.
Rape victims, especially by someone they trust, are in a state of shock when it happens, they just can't believe that's happening to them. This is well documented. They can't resist or fight. It leaves then in a state of helplessness that can last days. This is definitely what happens to Kiruko here.
And the reason she doesn't want Maru to be killled is also well documented. When the rape is perpetrated by someone she trusts, the victim still finds very difficult to blame the criminal.
In the case of Kiruko, there is another very important reason: she doesn't want Maru to be Robin's killer, since this would ruin the care free relationship she has with him. And she just realized that this relationship is the most important thing she has left, now that Robin is out.

I'm sorry but that literally makes no sense and in no way realistic.

What rvdboom makes complete sense and I had to look this up to confirm the evidence. The whole scene’s writing is logical in a sense. It doesn’t make sense to someone who doesn’t have knowledge on rape victim studies though. Just go read some studies and papers on rape victims and find out the truth.
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The writing is lazy and inconsistent.
Apparently we are supposed to accept the fact that the young boy (Kiruko), who survived as a fucking monster hunter and bodyguard in a post apocalypse, would abandon his/her safety merely on the premise of meeting his older ”brother”. He or she, I don’t really know, even left the Kiruko beam gun before going there. Which honestly doesn’t make sense for two reasons.

Firstly, unless he considered his/her brother to be a giga chad, capable of slaughtering monsters with ease, why would he/she leave his gun?

Secondly, the gun has the symbol that they are tracking. And the place where his/her brother is at is also the place where they tracked the symbol to… So it doesn’t make sense to leave the gun behind, since they would be able to uncover more of the truth about ”heaven” if he/she mentioned and showed the gun with the symbol.

But of course, if he/she considered the older ”brother” to be a giga chad and that he/she suddenly became weak and abandonded all reason and their goals just to meet him…then it can be explained why he/she suddenly ”forgot” the Kiruko beam gun.

But the next day after the r4pe, he/she is suddenly aware of their goals again and wishes to keep the relationship with Maru. Which goes to show how inconsistent the author is.

For this young boy/girl, who made violent adults look like scrawny teenagers in their rebellious phase throughout the show, to succumb to a pathetic child who blindly trust and redeems the single most disgusting person which the show has introduced is stupid. Remember, that same disgusting person also conveniently dissapeared, like the Avatar when the fire nation attacked, when he/she most needed him when he/she were younger. One so capable as the show makes the disgusting person out to be, he surely would have been able to find his younger brother.
And if you argue that the reason why the disgusting person didn’t search for Kiruko was because they weren’t close. Then I would ask you as to why the fuck Kiruko would search for the older ”brother” in the first place. Both of them were close, extremely so as family. Otherwise I can’t see why he Kiruko would try to find him. But the fact is that only one of them searched for the other… Now, it doesn’t take a genius to understand that perhaps something was wrong or something hade changed. For Kiruko to blindly think that he had met the same person he knew from before is stupid and inconsistent. Kiruko as a monster hunter and bodyguard for hire in a post acoplypse isn’t that stupid as to think that there weren’t people who sought out to use and trick others.
Furthemore, Kiruko can’t be so stupid as to have never thought about the fact he now had a new body. How would his ”brother” react and how was his sisters relationship with the older ”brother”?

There isn’t much that make sense!
If the r4pe scene was relevant to the story then it wouldn’t have played out as it did…
But, of course it is easy to self insert reasons to justify the authors lack of talent. Since it is a ”delicate” situation the author might perhaps think that he might even get away with it. Since it’s a delicate problem many people also doesn’t try to face it with facts but rather emotions. That might be why it was used. To cover up the past and to move forward without spending to much time addressing the brother and sisters situation.

To react to the r4pe with emotions is totally understandable, such ”delicate” problem creates trauma and ptsd that ruines many lifes. But to use such a trauma inducing situation to cover up the authors mistakes is a sucker punch to all who have experienced such trauma.

TLDR:
The show is inconsistent and the author sucker punches the audience over and over! Kiruko, the monster hunter and bodyguard for hire in a post apocalypse world suddenly became a blindly trusting child. Throwing away all logic and reason. The sudden change is the same as if Zoro from One Piece suddenly knew correct directions.
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She was confused, he/she admired robin, and always remember him as good guy who helps othees, ofc he/she couldnt react cuz robin changed his expression dramaticly, guard down cuz of full trust in robin plus al that respect. I think even part of it is sis body which craves male ofc plus him admire robin which can be love since he is she now. But man im pissed how she stopped maru from killong dudee, fcking lame. I mean ik cuz its still Robin he knows but yea....
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skillpower said:
rvdboom said:
The writing of this plot totally makes sense when you looked at testimonies of victims in real life and think about Kiruko's psychology.
Rape victims, especially by someone they trust, are in a state of shock when it happens, they just can't believe that's happening to them. This is well documented. They can't resist or fight. It leaves then in a state of helplessness that can last days. This is definitely what happens to Kiruko here.
And the reason she doesn't want Maru to be killled is also well documented. When the rape is perpetrated by someone she trusts, the victim still finds very difficult to blame the criminal.
In the case of Kiruko, there is another very important reason: she doesn't want Maru to be Robin's killer, since this would ruin the care free relationship she has with him. And she just realized that this relationship is the most important thing she has left, now that Robin is out.

I'm sorry but that literally makes no sense and in no way realistic.

You’re definitely in highschool or jr high… you’ll understand how realistic it is when you’re older
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The show is inconsistent and the author sucker punches the audience over and over! Kiruko, the monster hunter and bodyguard for hire in a post apocalypse world suddenly became a blindly trusting child. Throwing away all logic and reason. The sudden change is the same as if Zoro from One Piece suddenly knew correct directions.
Well, you should read the threads and other people's arguments before writing long pamphlets that are full of misconceptions and errors.
In short:
- She knows that she'll be searched before entering the building and that she'll have to leave any weapon to the guards anyway. Since she does not want to trust them with such valuable weapon, she leaves it to the only person she trusts (at that time beside Robin), meaning Maru.
- It's perfectly clear since the 3rd episode that Robin is some sort of a hero figure for Haruki, and that he trusts him more than anybody else.
- It's pretty clear seeing Robin's reaction to Kiruko's appearance that he thought both Kiriko and Haruki were dead and that he wasn't at all aware of Haruki's brain transplantation
- Read the other posts about the rape victim's shock and you'll understand why Kiruko is inactive. The coming of Maru is the electic shock that allows her to get out of her stupor state and revert to her previous self. Read them also to understand why she stopped Maru from killing Robin

In short, there are no inconsistency I could find in this story and I've read it twice and watched it once. You're just not paying attention enough.
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skillpower said:
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Because she was handcuffed. They show it in the same chapter.

she can easily break it off, and she could've done something before, and she didn't even fight back.

were you actually born in 1999?not even gonna talk about anything else but the fact that you think she could've broken those cuffs is beyond me didn't even think somebody above the age of 12 could've questions like this
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She trusts Robin to death. So much she’ll want to get ræped by him.

LMAO “WANT”?!?😭😭
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wesslan03 said:
The writing is lazy and inconsistent.
Apparently we are supposed to accept the fact that the young boy (Kiruko), who survived as a fucking monster hunter and bodyguard in a post apocalypse, would abandon his/her safety merely on the premise of meeting his older ”brother”. He or she, I don’t really know, even left the Kiruko beam gun before going there. Which honestly doesn’t make sense for two reasons.

Firstly, unless he considered his/her brother to be a giga chad, capable of slaughtering monsters with ease, why would he/she leave his gun?

Secondly, the gun has the symbol that they are tracking. And the place where his/her brother is at is also the place where they tracked the symbol to… So it doesn’t make sense to leave the gun behind, since they would be able to uncover more of the truth about ”heaven” if he/she mentioned and showed the gun with the symbol.

But of course, if he/she considered the older ”brother” to be a giga chad and that he/she suddenly became weak and abandonded all reason and their goals just to meet him…then it can be explained why he/she suddenly ”forgot” the Kiruko beam gun.

But the next day after the r4pe, he/she is suddenly aware of their goals again and wishes to keep the relationship with Maru. Which goes to show how inconsistent the author is.

For this young boy/girl, who made violent adults look like scrawny teenagers in their rebellious phase throughout the show, to succumb to a pathetic child who blindly trust and redeems the single most disgusting person which the show has introduced is stupid. Remember, that same disgusting person also conveniently dissapeared, like the Avatar when the fire nation attacked, when he/she most needed him when he/she were younger. One so capable as the show makes the disgusting person out to be, he surely would have been able to find his younger brother.
And if you argue that the reason why the disgusting person didn’t search for Kiruko was because they weren’t close. Then I would ask you as to why the fuck Kiruko would search for the older ”brother” in the first place. Both of them were close, extremely so as family. Otherwise I can’t see why he Kiruko would try to find him. But the fact is that only one of them searched for the other… Now, it doesn’t take a genius to understand that perhaps something was wrong or something hade changed. For Kiruko to blindly think that he had met the same person he knew from before is stupid and inconsistent. Kiruko as a monster hunter and bodyguard for hire in a post acoplypse isn’t that stupid as to think that there weren’t people who sought out to use and trick others.
Furthemore, Kiruko can’t be so stupid as to have never thought about the fact he now had a new body. How would his ”brother” react and how was his sisters relationship with the older ”brother”?

There isn’t much that make sense!
If the r4pe scene was relevant to the story then it wouldn’t have played out as it did…
But, of course it is easy to self insert reasons to justify the authors lack of talent. Since it is a ”delicate” situation the author might perhaps think that he might even get away with it. Since it’s a delicate problem many people also doesn’t try to face it with facts but rather emotions. That might be why it was used. To cover up the past and to move forward without spending to much time addressing the brother and sisters situation.

To react to the r4pe with emotions is totally understandable, such ”delicate” problem creates trauma and ptsd that ruines many lifes. But to use such a trauma inducing situation to cover up the authors mistakes is a sucker punch to all who have experienced such trauma.

TLDR:
The show is inconsistent and the author sucker punches the audience over and over! Kiruko, the monster hunter and bodyguard for hire in a post apocalypse world suddenly became a blindly trusting child. Throwing away all logic and reason. The sudden change is the same as if Zoro from One Piece suddenly knew correct directions.

I agree 100% the show/manga could've been better
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skillpower said:

she can easily break it off, and she could've done something before, and she didn't even fight back.

were you actually born in 1999?not even gonna talk about anything else but the fact that you think she could've broken those cuffs is beyond me didn't even think somebody above the age of 12 could've questions like this

she didn't do anything not even struggle lol
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skillpower said:
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were you actually born in 1999?not even gonna talk about anything else but the fact that you think she could've broken those cuffs is beyond me didn't even think somebody above the age of 12 could've questions like this

she didn't do anything not even struggle lol

she literally does struggle at the start in the manga before the eventual shock kicks in pay attention ffs before calling it lazy writing
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she didn't do anything not even struggle lol

she literally does struggle at the start in the manga before the eventual shock kicks in pay attention ffs before calling it lazy writing

that's literally not struggling lol, she tries for one second then surrenders, and even worse she protects him later on.
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skillpower said:
that's literally not struggling lol, she tries for one second then surrenders, and even worse she protects him later on.
Read my posts above instead of keeping on beating a dead horse.
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skillpower said:
KanataX said:

she literally does struggle at the start in the manga before the eventual shock kicks in pay attention ffs before calling it lazy writing

that's literally not struggling lol, she tries for one second then surrenders, and even worse she protects him later on.

nah man i truly can't believe im conversing with a person well into their middle 20s here you win fam i give up
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that's literally not struggling lol, she tries for one second then surrenders, and even worse she protects him later on.

nah man i truly can't believe im conversing with a person well into their middle 20s here you win fam i give up

Nice argument buddy
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skillpower said:
wesslan03 said:
The writing is lazy and inconsistent.
Apparently we are supposed to accept the fact that the young boy (Kiruko), who survived as a fucking monster hunter and bodyguard in a post apocalypse, would abandon his/her safety merely on the premise of meeting his older ”brother”. He or she, I don’t really know, even left the Kiruko beam gun before going there. Which honestly doesn’t make sense for two reasons.

Firstly, unless he considered his/her brother to be a giga chad, capable of slaughtering monsters with ease, why would he/she leave his gun?

Secondly, the gun has the symbol that they are tracking. And the place where his/her brother is at is also the place where they tracked the symbol to… So it doesn’t make sense to leave the gun behind, since they would be able to uncover more of the truth about ”heaven” if he/she mentioned and showed the gun with the symbol.

But of course, if he/she considered the older ”brother” to be a giga chad and that he/she suddenly became weak and abandonded all reason and their goals just to meet him…then it can be explained why he/she suddenly ”forgot” the Kiruko beam gun.

But the next day after the r4pe, he/she is suddenly aware of their goals again and wishes to keep the relationship with Maru. Which goes to show how inconsistent the author is.

For this young boy/girl, who made violent adults look like scrawny teenagers in their rebellious phase throughout the show, to succumb to a pathetic child who blindly trust and redeems the single most disgusting person which the show has introduced is stupid. Remember, that same disgusting person also conveniently dissapeared, like the Avatar when the fire nation attacked, when he/she most needed him when he/she were younger. One so capable as the show makes the disgusting person out to be, he surely would have been able to find his younger brother.
And if you argue that the reason why the disgusting person didn’t search for Kiruko was because they weren’t close. Then I would ask you as to why the fuck Kiruko would search for the older ”brother” in the first place. Both of them were close, extremely so as family. Otherwise I can’t see why he Kiruko would try to find him. But the fact is that only one of them searched for the other… Now, it doesn’t take a genius to understand that perhaps something was wrong or something hade changed. For Kiruko to blindly think that he had met the same person he knew from before is stupid and inconsistent. Kiruko as a monster hunter and bodyguard for hire in a post acoplypse isn’t that stupid as to think that there weren’t people who sought out to use and trick others.
Furthemore, Kiruko can’t be so stupid as to have never thought about the fact he now had a new body. How would his ”brother” react and how was his sisters relationship with the older ”brother”?

There isn’t much that make sense!
If the r4pe scene was relevant to the story then it wouldn’t have played out as it did…
But, of course it is easy to self insert reasons to justify the authors lack of talent. Since it is a ”delicate” situation the author might perhaps think that he might even get away with it. Since it’s a delicate problem many people also doesn’t try to face it with facts but rather emotions. That might be why it was used. To cover up the past and to move forward without spending to much time addressing the brother and sisters situation.

To react to the r4pe with emotions is totally understandable, such ”delicate” problem creates trauma and ptsd that ruines many lifes. But to use such a trauma inducing situation to cover up the authors mistakes is a sucker punch to all who have experienced such trauma.

TLDR:
The show is inconsistent and the author sucker punches the audience over and over! Kiruko, the monster hunter and bodyguard for hire in a post apocalypse world suddenly became a blindly trusting child. Throwing away all logic and reason. The sudden change is the same as if Zoro from One Piece suddenly knew correct directions.

I agree 100% the show/manga could've been better

Maybe.

I read a lot of the others thoughts on the matter as well and I want to point out that I agree with many that the depiction of the actual r4pe ”event” is very realistic. I do however believe that he/she never should have ended up in the situation if it weren’t for the authors inconsistent writing. Kiroku is strong and wary of others, it makes it hard to convince me that she blindly trusted the older ”brother”.

All in all, it means that the situation is even more complicated to unfold.
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skillpower said:
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Alot of r*pe victims often loose the will to fight and just except it. It’s quite common for people to not run away from situations like that. Alot of people just become a deer in headlights a just freeze up out of fear.

I would understand this but the problem is (spoilers) later on she protects him from Maru, which is the dumbest shit ever.

I mean its the same in some abussive marriages/relationships irl when for example husband is beating his wife on daily basis but when son is trying to beat his father and protect the mother, she tries to stop the son.

We know Kiruko/Haruki adores Robin, trusts him and looks up to him. Believes they are close friends or even like a family. Maybe that's why he didnt want Robin to die, maybe it was sentiment.

It may sound weird but if you can calmly look as somebody who is close to you being unalived then boi I've got news for you: you're not right in a head.

*also I got kinda enlightened maybe its not like Kiruko/Haruki didn't want Robin to die, maybe Kiruko/Haruki didn't WANT Maru to actually do it and became a murderer (as far as I know Maru only killed those monsters) so maybe that's why. To protect Maru from becoming a murderer. ( I may be wrong but I really only recall Maru only beating other people up)
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skillpower said:
SparCy said:

Alot of r*pe victims often loose the will to fight and just except it. It’s quite common for people to not run away from situations like that. Alot of people just become a deer in headlights a just freeze up out of fear.

I would understand this but the problem is (spoilers) later on she protects him from Maru, which is the dumbest shit ever.

agree your right that's why I'm a little disappointed in that part she protect that s**t
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What’s even more annoying is that she protects Robin from Maru
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skillpower said:
KanataX said:

she literally does struggle at the start in the manga before the eventual shock kicks in pay attention ffs before calling it lazy writing

that's literally not struggling lol, she tries for one second then surrenders, and even worse she protects him later on.

you really can't use your brain? Imagine the person you trusted the most rapes you. You know you can't do anything with the handcuffs on top of that Robin is brain washing you with the thoughts of your sister. Imagine suddenly having a fucking dick in your vagina..would you even have the will? Will struggling even help! Help brain was probably not even processing. She became a sex object before she knew it. And you think she will fight against Robin instead of running to somewhere and cry? You right your mind is fucked up after that. And why would she let Maru kill the person she trusted the most. A person hesitates before killing his own father even though he tortured the son till he started bleeding...why? Answer that question..
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zoh4ir said:
What’s even more annoying is that she protects Robin from Maru
Isn't it obvious? She doesn't want him to become a killer for her.
Can you imagine they would continue their journey as carefree as they did if he killed a man?
Jun 22, 2023 5:36 PM
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skillpower said:
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The writing of this plot totally makes sense when you looked at testimonies of victims in real life and think about Kiruko's psychology.
Rape victims, especially by someone they trust, are in a state of shock when it happens, they just can't believe that's happening to them. This is well documented. They can't resist or fight. It leaves then in a state of helplessness that can last days. This is definitely what happens to Kiruko here.
And the reason she doesn't want Maru to be killled is also well documented. When the rape is perpetrated by someone she trusts, the victim still finds very difficult to blame the criminal.
In the case of Kiruko, there is another very important reason: she doesn't want Maru to be Robin's killer, since this would ruin the care free relationship she has with him. And she just realized that this relationship is the most important thing she has left, now that Robin is out.

I'm sorry but that literally makes no sense and in no way realistic.

Really, it made perfect sense to me. And it seems pretty realistic
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KanataX said:
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she can easily break it off, and she could've done something before, and she didn't even fight back.

were you actually born in 1999?not even gonna talk about anything else but the fact that you think she could've broken those cuffs is beyond me didn't even think somebody above the age of 12 could've questions like this

I mean, in the manga she released herself easily when she saw Maru
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zoh4ir said:
What’s even more annoying is that she protects Robin from Maru

No normal person will just watch there best friend become a murder or someone close to them kill someone. They'll try to stop them most likely
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rvdboom said:
zoh4ir said:
What’s even more annoying is that she protects Robin from Maru
Isn't it obvious? She doesn't want him to become a killer for her.
Can you imagine they would continue their journey as carefree as they did if he killed a man?

leave it, that guy is probably an idiot or just trolling.
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Jya_Asiaboo_sama said:
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were you actually born in 1999?not even gonna talk about anything else but the fact that you think she could've broken those cuffs is beyond me didn't even think somebody above the age of 12 could've questions like this

I mean, in the manga she released herself easily when she saw Maru

do me a favour and go through both the chapters you'd see the difference between the position of hands in them and why she was able to uncuff it
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I'm both amazed about how little people understand about the psychology in this show and how little they understand about assault victims. Just watch something else, this show's clearly not for you.
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You know, if you have a question about the manga you can always post it under the manga rather than the show.
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maybe because she felt regretted for herself for looking for robin all this time
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Nah for real yall need to take a psychology class😂😂
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ironheroo said:
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She trusts Robin to death. So much she’ll want to get ræped by him.

Don’t you think if she wanted this, it wouldn’t be called „rape” dude 💀 yes, she trusted him so she was shocked what was going on, mixed with betrayal

Then explain why she protected robin?
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Jya_Asiaboo_sama said:
KanataX said:

were you actually born in 1999?not even gonna talk about anything else but the fact that you think she could've broken those cuffs is beyond me didn't even think somebody above the age of 12 could've questions like this

I mean, in the manga she released herself easily when she saw Maru

ah yes protecting the man that raped you makes sense.
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skillpower said:
Jya_Asiaboo_sama said:

I mean, in the manga she released herself easily when she saw Maru

ah yes protecting the man that raped you makes sense.

I mean, psychologically and realistically, there could be multiple reasons why someone would do that
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skillpower said:
ah yes protecting the man that raped you makes sense.
How far have you read the manga?
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Jya_Asiaboo_sama said:
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ah yes protecting the man that raped you makes sense.

I mean, psychologically and realistically, there could be multiple reasons why someone would do that
there's no valid reason to protect a rapist except if you have stockholm syndrome
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