A potential incredible series

Oct 14, 2022 12:30 PM

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So I actually used to play Arknights a lot (and whaled on the game a decent amount). If what I hear is true and that they’re only adapting the intro, I personally don’t have high hopes for this. Gacha games are also notoriously hard to adapt (e.g. Azur Lane, FGO) due to the structuring of the story where you are introduced to 15+ characters in an arc each with varying objectives and backstories. In a short anime, they simply won’t have time to flesh everyone out (and nor would fleshing out so many characters in detail within 8 episodes be good in an audiovisual medium like anime). These muddy character motivations in gacha adaptations will manifest as an overarching plot that seems unclear, esoteric, and rushed, with the target audience solely being those who have already played the game.

That being said, all of what I’m saying could be unfounded worry and it could turn out to be great. Arknights is a dark story with tons of lore that takes itself seriously. Many of the characters are great and compared to other gachas the aesthetic, themes, and stories are better. Although the intro arc isn’t the best part of the story, with decent execution it could even draw a lot of non-players to download the game.

Oct 14, 2022 12:51 PM

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Thanks, i didnt knew that was an gacha game , though given what you said i can say for sure after having watched so many series that actually its can result being an really bad series if that its the case, kinda dissapointing that this kind of production values many times other series dont get the same treatment and at his core are amaizing ones, instead there are some others that are pretty luckbuster and mediocre and result getting so much better care overall (athough i dont impying that in this one , but given the context of this installment, i can make me an idea of how can turn out).

Oct 14, 2022 2:40 PM

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I hope that it does well, the premise seems really fascinating, also the OST has been fire so far.

Oct 14, 2022 2:40 PM

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Don't have too high of an expectation. This is the first real anime tv series that Yostar Pictures is going to produce. Also in this world there are no actual humans and not a harem show. More of a political show.

Oct 14, 2022 3:04 PM

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Yea man. Gacha games have peak story. Reddit told me so.

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Oct 14, 2022 3:28 PM

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I might sound very biased but this anime has a lot of potential, since I also think the story itself is great (speaking from an Arknights player and story reader). However, I do agree that the very early chapters that are being adapted in this anime are weaker. I'm not saying its terrible, it just has a few issues and is outshined by the rest of the story. This is because despite the visual novel storytelling in the game, story substance is mostly exposition and world-building. The characters are great and likeable, but there will be a lot of other characters introduced and the plot will also progress fast. The dialogue translation to english (in the game) for those early chapters I mentioned were also very rough, and that might've turned off many people from the story before they got to the good stuff :'(

But staying optimistic, I think the team can deliver a good anime adaptation for the players and newer audiences alike. The anime will cover the very beginning of the story, from the day we wake up and start blasting homicidal terrorists. The main staff has been working on Arknights PVs and trailers for a long time, so I expect the director to know how to pace the episodes well. The art and animation beams quality and the music is being composed by Yuki Hayashi. The dystopian setting and the world building is just *chefs kiss. If you like post-apocalyptic sci-fi with a mix of military fantasy and drama, I think you're in for a ride honestly. Also Arknights isn't a harem nor an ecchi anime if you're worried about that (the only fan service is probably just liskarm's thicc thighs which is barely anything), its pretty gloomy and serious instead.

Btw if you're interested in more Arknights (non-spoiler), I recommend hearing its library of amazing music covering almost every genre. Arknights has one of the best OSTs for a gacha game (nearly 300 tracks now). A few top picks to try are Operation Pyrite, Operation Dawnseeker, Speed of Light, Operation Deepness, Sfsui, White 02, and Martyr. I really wish the anime would include pre-existing Arknights music into it, because they are all certified BANGERS.

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Oct 14, 2022 5:51 PM

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Though many characters are female, I assure you there are plenty of male ones. Also the existence of demi-humans is in the lore (there are no humans). I look forward to this greatly, even though it's the first chapters. If they continue on though, they could have an amazing anime.
For me personally, even though the first chapters are known to be weaker, I'm hyped because I get to see characters I love fully voiced and animated which is really cool. Exusiai ftw!

Oct 14, 2022 6:15 PM

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If properly adapted, this has the potential to be an amazing anime. Judging by the trailers, the animation quality will be very good. My main concern is the story. The anime seems to be adapting chapters 0-3, which are very short compared to the rest of the game, but I'm not sure how they will be able to adapt it in 8 episodes. If they are able to do it though, then it should be great. I've been playing Arknights for like a year. The story in this game is amazing. The worldbuilding is so good. There is so much depth to its story, not just in terms of lore, but also in themes. While most gacha games feel like waifu bait, Arknights really cares about the writing. People say the first few chapters of the game are weak. I don't agree. It's just that the later chapters are such peak fiction, that it makes the earlier ones look bad in comparison. But if they are able to adapt it properly, then it should be great. Especially the end, as the end of chapter 3 is fantastic.

Grimgar season 2 please!!!!

Oct 15, 2022 9:49 AM

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I really appreciate all the answers thank so much guys, now i can give me an more solid idea of how this can turn out actually, really amazed to see so many people knowledgeable about this installment and his trayectory which i was not aware.
Also i also want an season two of grimgar hahah i remember being hooked to the series, pretty good one and i was surprised for good that was so good.

Oct 16, 2022 9:32 AM

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Incredible? I don't think so, they only have 8 episode, i think this will be a rushed one, such a waste of great material

Oct 16, 2022 9:22 PM

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Sternengesang said:
Incredible? I don't think so, they only have 8 episode, i think this will be a rushed one, such a waste of great material

not quite. Prologue + chapter 0 and 1 is easily 1 or 1 1/2 episodes long. Then considering that Act 0 as a whole is pretty short and not jam-packed with story compared to Act 1, 8 episodes might be enough

we also have to consider that the episodes may be longer than an average one. but who knows, we'll have to see when it comes out

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Oct 17, 2022 6:51 AM

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Boazanian said:

Sternengesang said:
Incredible? I don't think so, they only have 8 episode, i think this will be a rushed one, such a waste of great material

not quite. Prologue + chapter 0 and 1 is easily 1 or 1 1/2 episodes long. Then considering that Act 0 as a whole is pretty short and not jam-packed with story compared to Act 1, 8 episodes might be enough

we also have to consider that the episodes may be longer than an average one. but who knows, we'll have to see when it comes out

Yeah, just hope they won't do until chapter 3 as the rumor that are going around

Oct 24, 2022 9:39 AM

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>smartphone shit
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Oct 25, 2022 5:41 AM

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More like wasted potential. As much of Arknights fan as I am, I was skeptical about how Yostar were going to play out the "faceless, voiceless protagonist" thing. Turns out, they're not playing it at all. In a blind pursuit of pleasing the target demographics, they made a brilliant tactician, a renowned doctor of neurology, and master of solving complex issues into a teenager... Right. Should I mention it takes at least 10 years to become a doctor of neurology? I guess our "Doctor" is the wunderkind of all wunderkinds. Arknights has a rich story, but you can't tell a good story without compelling characters, especially the protagonist. Eventually, we end up with the same result as what we got with Azur Lane, a blatant and tasteless fanservice.

Oct 25, 2022 7:59 AM

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Nomaed said:
More like wasted potential. As much of Arknights fan as I am, I was skeptical about how Yostar were going to play out the "faceless, voiceless protagonist" thing. Turns out, they're not playing it at all. In a blind pursuit of pleasing the target demographics, they made a brilliant tactician, a renowned doctor of neurology, and master of solving complex issues into a teenager... Right. Should I mention it takes at least 10 years to become a doctor of neurology? I guess our "Doctor" is the wunderkind of all wunderkinds. Arknights has a rich story, but you can't tell a good story without compelling characters, especially the protagonist. Eventually, we end up with the same result as what we got with Azur Lane, a blatant and tasteless fanservice.

How do you know the Doctor is a teenager in the anime?

Oct 25, 2022 10:41 AM

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Mymbl3 said:

Nomaed said:
More like wasted potential. As much of Arknights fan as I am, I was skeptical about how Yostar were going to play out the "faceless, voiceless protagonist" thing. Turns out, they're not playing it at all. In a blind pursuit of pleasing the target demographics, they made a brilliant tactician, a renowned doctor of neurology, and master of solving complex issues into a teenager... Right. Should I mention it takes at least 10 years to become a doctor of neurology? I guess our "Doctor" is the wunderkind of all wunderkinds. Arknights has a rich story, but you can't tell a good story without compelling characters, especially the protagonist. Eventually, we end up with the same result as what we got with Azur Lane, a blatant and tasteless fanservice.

How do you know the Doctor is a teenager in the anime?

Voice, height, partially revealed big-eyed face. I'm referring to the 3-rd trailer, if anything.

Oct 25, 2022 1:40 PM

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Nomaed said:

Mymbl3 said:

How do you know the Doctor is a teenager in the anime?

Voice, height, partially revealed big-eyed face. I'm referring to the 3-rd trailer, if anything.

I can't agree on that the Doctor is a teenager even from the anime trailer though I think it is reasonable to assume that. In the beginning of the story of Arknights, the Doctor had amnesia so it is understandable that his dialogue and manners are like a teenager. But if saying that he is a teenager from voice, height, partially revealed big-eyed face I can't agree. We don't know what race he is and there is also the giga grandma like kalsit that looks like a young adult. It could be the Doctor is old but just had a young voice and normal body height because of his race. Plenty of adults or older people have heights of 165cm.

Oct 25, 2022 2:27 PM

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Mymbl3 said:
I can't agree on that the Doctor is a teenager even from the anime trailer though I think it is reasonable to assume that. In the beginning of the story of Arknights, the Doctor had amnesia so it is understandable that his dialogue and manners are like a teenager. But if saying that he is a teenager from voice, height, partially revealed big-eyed face I can't agree. We don't know what race he is and there is also the giga grandma like kalsit that looks like a young adult. It could be the Doctor is old but just had a young voice and normal body height because of his race. Plenty of adults or older people have heights of 165cm.

What you're basically saying is "You have some arguments there, but I dismiss them, just because."
Sorry, pal, but facts speak in support of my claim: teenagers are relatively short, have thin voices, and in anime younger people are depicted with bigger eyes. And the "Doctor" in anime checks against each of these points. These are my arguments.
Your only argument is that the "Doctor" could be of some far-fetched race that you can't even name. Right, good point.

Oct 25, 2022 2:50 PM

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Nomaed said:

Mymbl3 said:
I can't agree on that the Doctor is a teenager even from the anime trailer though I think it is reasonable to assume that. In the beginning of the story of Arknights, the Doctor had amnesia so it is understandable that his dialogue and manners are like a teenager. But if saying that he is a teenager from voice, height, partially revealed big-eyed face I can't agree. We don't know what race he is and there is also the giga grandma like kalsit that looks like a young adult. It could be the Doctor is old but just had a young voice and normal body height because of his race. Plenty of adults or older people have heights of 165cm.

What you're basically saying is "You have some arguments there, but I dismiss them, just because."
Sorry, pal, but facts speak in support of my claim: teenagers are relatively short, have thin voices, and in anime younger people are depicted with bigger eyes. And the "Doctor" in anime checks against each of these points. These are my arguments.
Your only argument is that the "Doctor" could be of some far-fetched race that you can't even name. Right, good point.

I mean you are using human standards for your argument. What I am saying is the Doctor is not human. No one in Arknights is human so your claim doesn't make sense. The only humans are the R6 operators stuck in Terra. Also I don't understand your claims at all now. " teenagers are relatively short, have thin voices, and in anime younger people are depicted with bigger eyes. And the "Doctor" in anime checks against each of these points. These are my arguments." Counter example: Warfarin. So what would a teenager not seem like in anime? 3 meter giant with robotic voices and small eyes?

Mymbl3Oct 25, 2022 4:07 PM

Oct 25, 2022 3:18 PM

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Nomaed said:
More like wasted potential. As much of Arknights fan as I am, I was skeptical about how Yostar were going to play out the "faceless, voiceless protagonist" thing. Turns out, they're not playing it at all. In a blind pursuit of pleasing the target demographics, they made a brilliant tactician, a renowned doctor of neurology, and master of solving complex issues into a teenager... Right. Should I mention it takes at least 10 years to become a doctor of neurology? I guess our "Doctor" is the wunderkind of all wunderkinds. Arknights has a rich story, but you can't tell a good story without compelling characters, especially the protagonist. Eventually, we end up with the same result as what we got with Azur Lane, a blatant and tasteless fanservice.

I would also like to add that, "going to play out the "faceless, voiceless protagonist" thing", it wasn't going to happen if you kept up with the lore. It has become increasingly obvious that hypergryph is making the doctor not as a self insert after describing his past with kazdel and babel, along with his increasing presence in the stories like the Break the ice event.

Oct 25, 2022 9:19 PM

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Nomaed said:

Mymbl3 said:
I can't agree on that the Doctor is a teenager even from the anime trailer though I think it is reasonable to assume that. In the beginning of the story of Arknights, the Doctor had amnesia so it is understandable that his dialogue and manners are like a teenager. But if saying that he is a teenager from voice, height, partially revealed big-eyed face I can't agree. We don't know what race he is and there is also the giga grandma like kalsit that looks like a young adult. It could be the Doctor is old but just had a young voice and normal body height because of his race. Plenty of adults or older people have heights of 165cm.

What you're basically saying is "You have some arguments there, but I dismiss them, just because."
Sorry, pal, but facts speak in support of my claim: teenagers are relatively short, have thin voices, and in anime younger people are depicted with bigger eyes. And the "Doctor" in anime checks against each of these points. These are my arguments.
Your only argument is that the "Doctor" could be of some far-fetched race that you can't even name. Right, good point.

Arknights producer Hai Mao confirmed that the doctor's appearance is up to the players interpretation. Half the fanbase wants a male doctor and the rest wants female. Making the doctor androgynous for the anime is the best way to go about it. Personally, I prefer doctor to be a fierce and cold looking man just as he was described in the backstory. I can definitely see why he could be a teenager (or femboy?) from sounding so soft. On the other hand, I can also see the doctor as a middle aged woman with a deeper husky voice.

I choose to believe the doctor is a soft spoken man, his height and eyes is pretty normal just like any other character in arknights. We can look at common species such as the sarkaz and durins, the former having lived centuries without aging, and the latter looking like children while they're actually adults (myrtle or chestnut for example). Doctor could also be an aegir, an immortal, or whatever, it hasn't been explicitly confirmed by the lore.

Also, don't you think its a stretch to say the anime will be blatant and tasteless fanservice just because doctor looks like a teenager. The appearance was a blank slate to begin with, doctor's background and personality is much more integral to the story.

Oct 25, 2022 9:49 PM

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Nomaed said:

Mymbl3 said:
I can't agree on that the Doctor is a teenager even from the anime trailer though I think it is reasonable to assume that. In the beginning of the story of Arknights, the Doctor had amnesia so it is understandable that his dialogue and manners are like a teenager. But if saying that he is a teenager from voice, height, partially revealed big-eyed face I can't agree. We don't know what race he is and there is also the giga grandma like kalsit that looks like a young adult. It could be the Doctor is old but just had a young voice and normal body height because of his race. Plenty of adults or older people have heights of 165cm.

What you're basically saying is "You have some arguments there, but I dismiss them, just because."
Sorry, pal, but facts speak in support of my claim: teenagers are relatively short, have thin voices, and in anime younger people are depicted with bigger eyes. And the "Doctor" in anime checks against each of these points. These are my arguments.
Your only argument is that the "Doctor" could be of some far-fetched race that you can't even name. Right, good point.

That's assuming that the Doctor is human and if you play AK then you should already know that HG confirmed there are no normal humans on Terra. Does Warfarin look like she's hundreds years old to you? If we going by what's standard in anime, there are plenty of example from other anime where very young looking characters turn out to be hundreds years old. Appearance alone shouldn't determine one's age, especially in AK when the devs have also stated that every race ages differently which is why they have been avoiding to include age on operator files. Just treat this interpretation of the doctor as Yostar's take. It doesn't mean it's the one that everyone have to abide by. I honestly think people are overreacting to the anime's Doctor and getting upset just because they don't happen to match what you had in mind. For all we know, the Doctor might not even talk all that much since the focus won't really be on them all the time.

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