| To be frank, I see a lot of people saying that this is like any other isekai, and I honestly have to disagree. And this is coming from someone who loves isekai. This however is crap. Nothing about it is good. Just as an example, Reincarnated as a Slime is fun to watch. The characters are likable. There is a lot of world building, politics, and interesting foes. The story is exciting and even when the pacing feels off at times, it's still enjoyable to watch because you always want to know what happens next. And I get Rimuru is just your typical OP character, but I like OP characters, so it doesn't bother me. So why don't I like this anime? That's because despite what some claim, this is nothing like a typical isekai. The only similarity is that it's an OP character that gets sent to some random world. But that's where the similarities end. I have zero attachment to this main characters cause I still don't even know who the heck he is, I don't know anything about him. Also, the way he just learned all those skills right from the start and how his MP goes into the negatives is absurd (Rimuru is OP, but at least it's somewhat explainable). As for the characters he has around him right from the beginning, all they do is throw little tidbits on how they met, and so I have little connection to them either. Heck 4 episodes in and I am still not even sure what the story is suppose to be. What are his goals and motivations? Why is his personality so dull with very little emotion? I may love isekai, and I admit, maybe my taste isn't exactly top notch. But this is bottom tier right here. And don't worry, I am not going to stick around to continue to hate on the anime, I just seriously wanted to comment on people claiming this is like other isekai. It's really not. This is well below average. There is a reason those isekai are well liked and this one is not. If you can't tell the difference you are deluding yourself. But hey, if you enjoy it, so be it. Me however, I am dropping it. With all that said, maybe I will check out the manga or LN instead to see if it's any better. |
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| Yeah when I get home from work to watch the next episode, depending on how it goes I might drop it as well sadly. |
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KANLen09 said: Ok, thanks for your patronage and thoughts, goodbye. You're welcome. =^.^= |
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| Hey, you got farther than the people who looked at the title and noped. Like I did. πππ |
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| Its pretty entertaining,that's reason enough for me to keep watching it, the mc being bland and boring might be one of the most realistic "gone to another world" guy we got,he's just that random japanese person who hated his job,not some charismatic but misunderstood chad like Rudeus and Rimuru (they still are great characters but it kinda feels fresh to not have that for once) Now i wish he wasn't that overpowered but i like the strategic parts of the fights so its not too bad Now i see a lot of people saying the art and overall visual is bad,i think the animation does the job on fight scenes(episode 4 is a good example),the slimes are omegacute (the chara design and voices),the dog might have gotten the wrong seeiyu tho don't like him but while not being unique or Mushoku Tensei tier of visual it still gets that medieval fantastic vibe right,its not too dark fantasy but not a fairyland either I also read its a poor adaptation from the manga,that a shame but being an anime only you can't really feel it,it feels decently paced and its actually nice starting in the middle for once,he already got all his teammates and power,no 6 episodes intro like Saihate no Paladin then the real story starts and end in a snap I might be in the minority here but this anime's backlash is not totally worth i feel like its still a solid 5 or 5.5/10 but sometimes that's enough when you're bored. |
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MarchinBunny said: To be frank, I see a lot of people saying that this is like any other isekai, and I honestly have to disagree. And this is coming from someone who loves isekai. This however is crap. Nothing about it is good. Just as an example, Reincarnated as a Slime is fun to watch. The characters are likable. There is a lot of world building, politics, and interesting foes. The story is exciting and even when the pacing feels off at times, it's still enjoyable to watch because you always want to know what happens next. And I get Rimuru is just your typical OP character, but I like OP characters, so it doesn't bother me. So why don't I like this anime? That's because despite what some claim, this is nothing like a typical isekai. The only similarity is that it's an OP character that gets sent to some random world. But that's where the similarities end. I have zero attachment to this main characters cause I still don't even know who the heck he is, I don't know anything about him. Also, the way he just learned all those skills right from the start and how his MP goes into the negatives is absurd (Rimuru is OP, but at least it's somewhat explainable). As for the characters he has around him right from the beginning, all they do is throw little tidbits on how they met, and so I have little connection to them either. Heck 4 episodes in and I am still not even sure what the story is suppose to be. What are his goals and motivations? Why is his personality so dull with very little emotion? I may love isekai, and I admit, maybe my taste isn't exactly top notch. But this is bottom tier right here. And don't worry, I am not going to stick around to continue to hate on the anime, I just seriously wanted to comment on people claiming this is like other isekai. It's really not. This is well below average. There is a reason those isekai are well liked and this one is not. If you can't tell the difference you are deluding yourself. But hey, if you enjoy it, so be it. Me however, I am dropping it. With all that said, maybe I will check out the manga or LN instead to see if it's any better. Thought the exact same after watching the ep and I can't really disagree with you. After watching the trailer and saw all of the slimes, it reminded me of Tensura and I wanted to know how the MC was going to use all of them to his benefit which piqued my interest but when I look at the anime this far, I haven't been able to attach myself to any of the characters and I felt like the animation a bit lackluster. |
ropiel said: Its pretty entertaining,that's reason enough for me to keep watching it, That's fine, there is no problem with you finding it entertaining. I just don't. the mc being bland and boring might be one of the most realistic "gone to another world" guy we got,he's just that random japanese person who hated his job,not some charismatic but misunderstood chad like Rudeus and Rimuru (they still are great characters but it kinda feels fresh to not have that for once) Now i wish he wasn't that overpowered but i like the strategic parts of the fights so its not too bad How is being emotionless more realistic? Also, I don't know about you, but I don't watch anime for it's realism. If I wanted realism, I would watch a documentary. I also read its a poor adaptation from the manga,that a shame but being an anime only you can't really feel it,it feels decently paced and its actually nice starting in the middle for once,he already got all his teammates and power,no 6 episodes intro like Saihate no Paladin then the real story starts and end in a snap You an me clearly have very different preferences. I do not like when a story starts in the middle when they already have teammates. |
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Excuse me? I have watched a LOT of isekai, and this is one of the worst I have seen. So it's not a matter of it not being as good as one of the best, it's a matter of it just not being good compared to most. |
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| I wish it had better art so I could enjoy the slimes but that's unfortunately not the case. |
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MarchinBunny said: Viewers shouldn't expect to connect with the MC or their associates with every series they watch. Everyone comes from different backgrounds, and plenty of flashbacks are given to tell the viewer who the MC is. We all know it's a common troupe for anime to project the intended audience in the MC, but we should all remember that that's not how everyday TV shows are written. I mean, children don't have work experience and not all adults settle for an office job. The flash backs are mostly intended to explain the MC's thought process given similar circumstances. I will admit, the negative MP should be explained if the series plans to flash it in the middle of every close battle. I know it's trying to tell the viewer those were close fights, but the same can be conveyed just from showing 0 MP at the end of each ordeal.I have zero attachment to this [MC] [because] I still don't even know who the heck he is, I don't know anything about him. Also, the way he just learned all those skills right from the start and how his MP goes into the negatives is absurd... As for the characters he has around him right from the beginning, all they do is throw little tidbits on how they met, and so I have little connection to them either. MarchinBunny said: Concerning the story, I've seen enough to understand that the MC was summoned unknowingly to a fantasy world and the summoners are unaware that their summoning ritual worked. It's explained why they did the summon in episode 3. The MC's goals and motivations are pretty clear from episode 4. Like most isekai, the MC seeks freedom. The reason this MC in particular was chosen is that his actions in every situation he's been in coincides with the intentions of the summoners. As for personality, I happen to be one of the few who can relate. Though my personality may be dull, I still know how to have fun while still following my morals. The same applies to the MC whenever he hides his strength with the intention of keeping his freedom. If we compared this with other isekai, the MC usual knows what s/he is doing (get stronger/find way back/make harem). However, don't expect every MC to have such goals or motivations. This MC goes wherever the wind takes him. Like most OP MC isekai, [MC obtains power], MC decides [when to] use it. Though the MC treasures freedom in this [series], the MC still chooses to use his power despite the risk of losing [that freedom]. Sure, I may be reading too much into it, but it makes sense when you think about it.Heck 4 episodes in and I am still not even sure what the story is [supposed] to be. What are his goals and motivations? Why is his personality so dull with very little emotion? MarchinBunny said: Tier isn't what's preventing you from enjoying the story. It's the format of storytelling. From my understanding, the audience isn't supposed to know [any more than] the MC. In other words, everything we learn for the first time, the MC also learns for the first time. I have some experience with this format, but I've watched too much anime to give an example off the top of my head. I agree, it would help if this story had all the good troupes most isekai tend to have, but I believe most viewers just find this form of storytelling hard to get used to.I may love isekai, and I admit, maybe my taste isn't exactly top notch. But this is bottom tier right here. And don't worry, I am not going to stick around to continue to hate on the anime, I just seriously wanted to comment on people claiming this is like other isekai. It's really not. This is well below average. There is a reason those isekai are well liked and this one is not. If you can't tell the difference, you are deluding yourself. But hey, if you enjoy it, so be it. Me however, I am dropping it. MarchinBunny said: Wise choice, considering not all adaptations do the source material justice.With all that said, maybe I will check out the manga or LN instead to see if it's any better. |
ReloadJul 19, 2022 6:21 PM
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Reload said: Viewers shouldn't expect to connect with the MC or their associates with every series they watch. Everyone comes from different backgrounds, and plenty of flashbacks are given to tell the viewer who the MC is. I disagree. A connection to the MC doesn't have to be personal or relatable, it just needs to be something that catches the viewers interest. There are plenty of characters I like that are nothing like me, but I am still able to find some level of connection with, because they are just likable characters. Also, there are not plenty of flashbacks, what are you talking about? Are you watching a different anime? The only flashblacks that have come do not explain a single thing about the main character. It's more about how he met other characters that he is currently traveling with. We all know it's a common troupe for anime to project the intended audience in the MC, but we should all remember that that's not how everyday TV shows are written. This is actually a troupe used in most story telling, not just anime. It's just more obvious in anime because they often make the male MC very generic looking. In fact, when writing a story, you typically have to consider how you write the main character, because if they are not likable or there is no connection that the reader can attach too, it creates an issue where the reader may not continue reading. This is also why character that you are suppose to dislike are written a certain way too. Welcome to story telling 101, take a seat, class shall begin lol. Don't they teach this stuff in school anymore? I mean, children don't have work experience and not all adults settle for an office job. I don't think you understand what connecting with a character means. Concerning the story, I've seen enough to understand that the MC was summoned unknowingly to a fantasy world and the summoners are unaware that their summoning ritual worked. It's explained why they did the summon in episode 3. The MC's goals and motivations are pretty clear from episode 4. Like most isekai, the MC seeks freedom. We all know he was summoned unknowingly, that's not what I am talking about. Also, the MC seeking "freedom" is never explicitly said, so exactly how is his goals and motivations made clear? At what point in the episode does he explain anything about what he is doing or seeking and why? The only thing I gathered about him is he apparently doesn't want to deal with crazy stuff like dragons, so maybe he wants to live a quiet life. But again, he never actually says this and so we have to just assume that's his intention based on his questions about where he is going to next. So it's not as if we know that for sure. As for personality, I happen to be one of the few who can relate. Though my personality may be dull, I still know how to have fun while still following my morals. Relatable isn't what I am looking for. Interesting, fun to watch, entertaining is the reason I watch anime. It's nice when a character is relatable, but not at the sacrifice of being crap. The same applies to the MC whenever he hides his strength with the intention of keeping his freedom. If we compared this with other isekai, the MC usual knows what s/he is doing (get stronger/find way back/make harem). However, don't expect every MC to have such goals or motivations. You honestly make a lot of assumptions about what I am expecting in a story. What I expect is for a story to be well written and for things to be explained within a reasonable amount of time. And it's not like I am the only one who seems to have this issue. So clearly it's not just me. You act like everyone here just only wants one kind of story or something and act like we just don't get it. Did you ever consider that maybe it IS just not written well, and you are just making lousy excuses for it? Sure, I may be reading too much into it, but it makes sense when you think about it. The fact you say this and are not even sure is the problem. After 4 episodes, his motivations should be pretty clear, not a "maybe I am reading too much into it". From my understanding, the audience isn't supposed to know [any more than] the MC. In other words, everything we learn for the first time, the MC also learns for the first time. This isn't true at all. We started in the middle and have to use flashbacks to learn what the MC already knows. |
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| @MarchinBunny: The flashbacks I reference are the ones about his previous life as an office worker. Guess my choice of words was confusing, as I couldn't think of anything else to call them. They illustrate that the MC had a tendency to go with the flow and had very little time to himself. This may not be enough of a description for you, but it's plenty for me. Storytelling 101 is as you say, but you can't expect the likeable characters to be liked by everyone and the dislikeable characters to be hated by everyone. Some people just drop a story because of one character when the story is great and vice versa. You seem to follow this trend. I can't force you to continue watching, but what I disagree with is judging an entire series as a whole before completing it. I know everyone has different standards, so your free to call it bottom tier; however, I've seen far worse to the point of having little to complain about with this series. The uncertainty with my statements is just part of the charm of continuing to watch. Some information may be divulged later in the story unless omitted intentionally for the sake of time constraints. Source material helps if I get curious, but I can continue watching without the added information. When I said, "everything we learn for the first time, the MC also learns for the first time", it was a horribly attempt to reword my previous statement. My statement before still stands, "the audience isn't supposed to know any more than the MC." A better rewording would have been that all events happen within the MC's circle of encounters; therefore, that's all the information that can be given. On the other hand, some stories have a narrator or KnowItAll character that is close to the MC explaining everything. If the MC was more inquisitive, we may have been given more info on the world he's in now. Sadly, most MC's in isekai must hide the fact they came from another world unless intentionally summoned. The summoners then tell them where they are and why they're there. However, in this series, the MC is being used without knowing why he's there or where he is. The fact he doesn't question these things or try to find a way back implies he has nothing to return to. As far as getting more out of the story or the characters, you only need continue to watch. Of course, your always free to wait till it ends for someone else to give their opinion on it as a whole before deciding to continue. For all I know, you could be the impatient type who needs to see everything within the first 4 episodes to find something interesting when it might just come later. A great example would be Hitman Reborn. I have to say, 12 episodes is a whole lot shorter than 200+. |
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Reload said: @MarchinBunny: Storytelling 101 is as you say, but you can't expect the likeable characters to be liked by everyone and the dislikeable characters to be hated by everyone. This is true, but I feel there is a certain threshold. Normally a likable character is going to be liked most of the time, and the dislikable characters are going to be disliked most of the time (I am talking story, there are obviously some "dislikable" characters that are liked for other reasons like character design) Some people just drop a story because of one character when the story is great and vice versa. You seem to follow this trend. The story isn't good at all from what I have seen. Not sure why you are acting like it's only to do with just the main character. My issues with the main character is only a part of the problem. There are problems with side characters and how they have been introduced thus far. There are problems with the story starting in the middle and not explaining things well. I can't force you to continue watching, but what I disagree with is judging an entire series as a whole before completing it. I know everyone has different standards, so your free to call it bottom tier; however, I've seen far worse to the point of having little to complain about with this series. I gave it 4 episodes, that plenty to judge it by. I don't care if you disagree on whether it's enough, it is for me. I am not going to sit through a series that feels like a chore to watch. Also, just because worse exists out there, doesn't mean a whole heck of a lot. Just because an anime with a score of 1 exists, doesn't mean an anime with a score of 4 is good. |
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MarchinBunny said: I agree, hence it's more of one's level of tolerance than how good or bad the series is. If you set the bar too high, there's not much left to look forward to when a new series airs. I'm just saying you've set your standards higher than me when it comes to enjoyment. To sum it up, you would be "glass half empty" while I'm "glass half full". Regardless of how little I'm given, I don't go out of my way to ask for more while you ask for nothing less than all your needs be met. After reading other comments, it seems the adaptation doesn't do the source material justice. If I end up reading this series because of a lack of information, I will admit this is bottom tier when it comes to keeping the audience informed, but not the series as a whole. I have yet to do so, so I have no judgement on the matter till I finish the anime.The story isn't good at all from what I have seen. Not sure why you are acting like it's only to do with just the main character. My issues with the main character is only a part of the problem. There are problems with side characters and how they have been introduced thus far. There are problems with the story starting in the middle and not explaining things well. MarchinBunny said: Funny you say that, since I never rate anything below 4. It's my belief that if I drop a series because I didn't like it, I have no right to judge it. I just find it hard to believe anyone would put their money into a series, that's below a 4, for a small audience to enjoy. You have to give some credit to the ones who decided to go through with publishing/airing a series. It's not their intention to torture their audience. If anything, anyone who absolutely dislikes a series simply isn't the intended audience. You say you like isekai, but you seem too caught up on how the story gets delivered. You can't expect every storyteller to deliver a masterpiece like it's natural. At least give them credit for trying. Don't confuse bottom tier for storytelling not directed at you to enjoy. Though small, there is still an audience who can enjoy what you deem unenjoyable. Though you're not the only one who dropped this series, I'm also not the only one still watching. I guess you'd call us bottom feeders at this point. On that note, some viewers seek these kinds of stories where their characters are dull, or the story is lacking. I just wouldn't call anything with an audience bottom tier.I gave it 4 episodes, that plenty to judge it by. I don't care if you disagree on whether it's enough, it is for me. I am not going to sit through a series that feels like a chore to watch. Also, just because worse exists out there, doesn't mean a whole heck of a lot. Just because an anime with a score of 1 exists, doesn't mean an anime with a score of 4 is good. |
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Reload said: Funny you say that, since I never rate anything below 4. It's my belief that if I drop a series because I didn't like it, I have no right to judge it. That's silly. It's one thing if you don't like something because of the genre or the type of story, and so you don't rate it. For example, I may drop a horror forward series because I don't like horror, and so I wouldn't rate it cause I would obviously be biased in that regard. But if I am disliking something because there are actual problems with how they are doing things, it's silly to not rate it regardless if you finish or not. If anything, anyone who absolutely dislikes a series simply isn't the intended audience. I am just going to say you are flat out wrong. Again, it's one thing if you dislike a series due to the type of story or genre, then yes, you wouldn't be the intended audience. But I like isekai and I like strong OP MCs. I am literally the intended audience for this type of anime. The parts I dislike are how the story is being told, and how characters are being introduced. You say you like isekai, but you seem too caught up on how the story gets delivered. Ya, because it's being delivered poorly. That isn't me being too caught up in how it's being delivered, it's just me being honest, whereas you seem to lack any sort of willingness to just admit it's bad. This isn't a matter of taste, and it's not like my standards are high (I mean I like most isekai, not exactly a genre that is considered top tier), it's just your standards are ridiculously low. You can't expect every storyteller to deliver a masterpiece like it's natural. I like tons of isekai that are not masterpieces. I don't expect many to be masterpieces in fact. The problem isn't that this isn't a masterpiece. The problem is that it's below even being average. At least give them credit for trying. No Don't confuse bottom tier for storytelling not directed at you to enjoy. You are the one confused. This IS bottom tier and you seem to be confusing it for something else. Though small, there is still an audience who can enjoy what you deem unenjoyable. Doesn't mean it isn't bottom tier. People like you exist after all. There will always be someone who will watch crap and pretend it's good. |
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| @MarchinBunny: Now that you know my stance, I'll put our differences into perspective one more time. I'm not pretending the series is good. I only see its value in killing time. Enjoyment is only secondary when it comes to entertainment. You clearly seek enjoyment, so I won't say your wrong to drop it and look for something better. I'm just the type who can give something bad more of my time. It's possible I just won't see how bad it is till I've seen it all. While you may be used to making the call to drop a series early, I'd rather find something to enjoy out of it even if it turns out bad in the end. I'd like to say I'm a completionist, but everyone has their limits. If we compared pros and cons for the series, you probably put more weight on your cons than I do, because I can clearly see [them] too. I hardly mention pros because we both know what they are. IMO, those pros outweigh the cons, so I see no issue with continuing to watch. If I seek a better experience, I'll probably read it later. Till then, I'll be stuck waiting for the adaptation to end and hope I'll have no regrets. Anyhow, thx for voicing your opinion. You're not alone, but tolerance does play a role in limiting what you watch. I'd prefer the ability to watch more, as I have always been, [rather than less]. |
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| The series is OK The only issue we have here is that the MC literally obtained godly power after arriving to this world. Remember, he was originally just a regular monster tamer. But somehow got lucky and ends up meeting bunch of slimes that's apparently originally owned by a top rank magician that have shit tons of top rank magic books... And somehow MC's monster tamer ability allows him to absorb whatever stuff the slimes are doing. (think of it as some sort of Naruto shadow clone... lol, clones experience are given to the original) Which allowed him to have nearly all of the strongest spells that's known to men, and somehow being an Isekai, he has the usual near infinite magic power. (don't forget, majority of Isekai series always feature a MC that have godly powers, it's literally one of the reason for high ratings...) ___ ___ ___ Also, the MC IS suppose to be fairly boring, as we've seen his past life (on Earth) is a normal office worker with next to no motivation. ___ ___ ___ The real reason to watch this series is for the Slimes. Imagine this series without the slimes... |
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abz55 said: For some reasons i actually dropped this halfway of ep 1. That is how i watch anime, if i dont like it then i will not force myself watching it for the sake of to be able to put comments later on. I did the same, I've seen enough Isseki anime to know a bad one from the outset. I could see where this was heading and I'm tired of wasting time on bad shows like thin in the hope they turn out good. |
MarchinBunny said: Reload said: Funny you say that, since I never rate anything below 4. It's my belief that if I drop a series because I didn't like it, I have no right to judge it. That's silly. It's one thing if you don't like something because of the genre or the type of story, and so you don't rate it. For example, I may drop a horror forward series because I don't like horror, and so I wouldn't rate it cause I would obviously be biased in that regard. But if I am disliking something because there are actual problems with how they are doing things, it's silly to not rate it regardless if you finish or not. Bahaha this is the only reason im gonna watch another ep or two(i forget how mal figures what counts), because i want my bad rating to affect it. This show is terrible in my opinion, im glad i read this post because it really put some of my issues right in front and easy to read. |
| They've skipped a lot scenes from manga. i'm glad i did read a few chapters before anime. i'm gonna still watch it tho. |
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MusashiKarlsefni said: Yeah when I get home from work to watch the next episode, depending on how it goes I might drop it as well sadly. Not exactly wrong I love isekai too so I know where this is coming from |
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| Just wanted to say that after the 6th ep I can say that you made a good decision since ep5 was kinda shit but ep 6 was just a whole new low. |
| i actually like this series more after watching more episode. |
| Thanks for announcing your departure! If you constantly compare anime to other anime, you'll never enjoy anything. |
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| The best way I can describe this series is "junk food" of Isekai anime. There's nothing new or fresh here, but a lot of recycled elements taken from the MANY dozen of Isekai series all thrown together. It isn't a 5 star meal, but if you're an Isekai watcher like me, it still manages to quench a thirst just like a bag of chips or can of soda does every so often. |
| Same thoughts, I however am a glutton for punishment. So I decided to drop it after the 7th episode. |
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