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ur a sucker for bad isekais. keep sucking *mmh mmhhh* *blowing sounds*

I'll make sure to check it out, thank you for accepting and have a great day.

Just the mystery shows? I can do that. But then again, you seem to find fantasy much more mysterious than I do, while I prefer scifi, so I can't guarantee our tastes will match. Well, at the very least I can tell you which shows I'm watching.

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I would say that by far the weakest part of Akatsuki no Yona is the beginning arcs. The inciting incident it handled pretty well, but the first dragon they find comes off as rather generic. However, what really saves the show at that point is the MC's character development and green dragon's arc a bit later (he's the third one) is fantastic. After the anime ends I feel like there is a bit of a lull, but once they get around visiting the water tribe everything after it is consistently great.

My personal favorite aspect of the series (aside from the protagonist, everyone loves Yona) is its villain though, since it would be so easy to paint them as pure evil... but they don't. They're probably the most nuanced take on this type of character I've seen.

But yeah, if you ever get around watching/reading it, you should be aware that it's kind of a slow burn. Not that the first half is bad per se but it's just okay. So if you ever feel like you're really bored, I'd recommend it as a way to pass time. Who knows, maybe you'll grow to like it like I did.

Oooh, I'm into mysteries too~~ I've a ton of things on my favorites list you might like. The animes with outright mystery genre tags are Lain, Monster (you can also just read the manga), Paprika, Mawaru Penguindrum and Ghost Hound. ...Yes, literally half of my favorites list is just mystery genre lol. Be a little bit careful though, all of them besides Monster can get a little... trippy.

Outside anime, you might wanna get around reading that Umineko Naku no Koro Ni manga or play the VN of it. I see Zetsuen no Tempest in your favorites it honestly reminded me of Umineko. Especially how they argue about magic. Plus Aika looks exactly like Rosa but younger lol...

Good luck at the Navy!

Uh... Akatsuki no Yona is already on top of my manga list (it's my favorite ongoing manga - the parts that aren't in the anime yet are really, really good) and I've read Solanin (since it's by Inio Asano) and some Blood Alone (it was alright). I think I'm going to take a break from all the isekai/VRMMO stories but I'll check out the rest of your recommendations.

If you wanna watch anything on my favorite animes list, I'd recommend Infinite Ryvius. Mostly because so few people seem to have seen it that it should be illegal. Hopefully you like scifi.

Although I generally watch more anime, the reason my manga list is so small is because I'm too lazy to add them all to MAL. I don't typically even update my anime section... I think my 'watching' list is still stuck on last spring season lol. I just add stuff when somebody mentions an anime and I realize I haven't marked it yet lol.

I read Shield Hero because I had just read Kumo Desu ga, Nani ka? LN and liked it... So I wanted to find something similar to it. I first ended up reading the manga version of Slime and then Shield Hero LN. But in the end I did't like them as much.

I mean, half of my favorite anime list would probably be classified as Seinen if they weren't anime original shows. MAL tags series based on which magazine their manga version ran at, which is why there is no anime-original seinen. In manga/LN I'm not really into seinen though, with a few exceptions (mainly Naoki Urasawa and Inio Asano). Shounen is fine but I usually get frustrated with them since they just keep stretching the story. I suppose that's more general problem with manga though. The authors just want to keep the story going to ensure their livelihoods rather than give it a satisfactory ending (or rather, the editors do... have you read Bakuman? That's why Eiji has to go to such extremes...).

But yeah, josei or mature shoujo is probably your best bet in manga/LN.

But yeah, I guess we agree on that the OP should only define the topic at the beginning then. But yeah, sure. I typically accept all friend requests anyway. I don't mind either thread or PM, so you can choose whichever you're more comfortable with.

Yeah, OP can mean the both, the person and the post, which is why I've repeated it so many times in my previous comment.

The scenario I suggested is not realistic because as it is, the OPs don't own the threads, so them dictating the conversation to this extent is not in the rules. As I said before, my intention was simply to show what would be possible if they did have that power (and thus demonstrate why I'm against it).

I think you misunderstood.


The former case is referring to the OP, the latter one is a hypothetical scenario showing why it's good that the OPs in general don't own their topics. Target here is just referring to what the topic is about.

I suppose the difference here is that I believe that the OP of any particular topic doesn't have the ownership of the discussion that ensues afterwards. Changing the target of the topic slightly is still a mild example, but it may also lead to censorship of the thread if for example the OP disagrees with someone's opinion and they change the topic again in order to stop them from expressing it. So for the clarity of the rules it's better to say the topic is just whatever is on the OP.

This is also why I believe that once the OP started the conversation in the OP, the ownership and the responsibility of the topic transfers over to the mods and general forum rules. Even if the OP participates in the discussion afterwards their standing is the same as with the other commenters.

As long as you understand it's fine. The part that mainly irked me was that I took your 'warning' as intended censorship that I can't agree with. I can be very patient with people who disagree with me, but I get quite annoyed if I feel like I'm being silenced :P

As for the OP changing their question in the later comments... I personally feel like the topic is about what's in the OP. Sure, specifying further later on can be helpful, but I don't think that makes the posts that reply directly to the question in the OP off-topic. In general, I think mandating everyone who replies the topic to read all the posts before them is kinda silly, especially when the replies on this type of topic tend to be both long and spoilerific.

Lol, when I came online yesterday I had 1 private message and 9 alerts... and my reply to you was probably the shortest among what I wrote. Fortunately I only had 1 PM and 7 alerts today lol. I like arguing but I also do have a full-time job, so trying to answer everyone within a day is quite tough.

So can you explain how Grey-Zone explaining why they like the show is off-topic on a topic about the OP asking why people like the show?

Yes, I've read less than him, but I also mentioned it in my post, so it's not like your potential new readers would have any way of misunderstanding it. Furthermore, it isn't your place to warn anyone, is it? If you think somebody breaks the rules, just report them. If they did indeed break them, then it's only right for it to get deleted. You're not the one who should be making the decision. This may be a bit rude, but it came off as 'backseat-modding' to me.

Well, I can at least appreciate that effort.

Anyway, if your only goal is to weed out the spoilers, then you should have no problem with me since I use spoiler tags. That's what it says in the rules.

It's not even off-topic, considering our reasons for liking/hating it were the spoilers we talked about. So it's all fine and dandy.

As for my intent, that's irrelevant to our discussion. Spoilers were in spoiler tags, talk was on-topic and no rules were broken. You're free to suggest "being mindful", but I must say I'm not a fan of arguments that essentially boil down to trying to silence other people.

I'm rather brief because I was away from MAL for a bit and now I'm flooded with alerts lol @_@

My main problem with your argument is that its goal seems to essentially censor my negative opinions from the threads. So in a sense, I see your argument as far more unproductive than my own. If you think I'm misunderstanding you, then feel free to specify what part you're objecting to. I suppose you might be just against mentioning the source material at all, but that wouldn't make much sense since you yourself used 'LN gets good later, so you shouldn't drop it' argument in page 1.

I also do feel like you're giving the people reading or watching the series far too little credit in your argument. Sure, I can tell people why I didn't like the story. However, if somebody drops it in the middle, it is their own decision. To me saying otherwise seems like belittling them.

I'm not replying to your comments on my opinions in the quote because I don't want to get sidetracked from the current topic. However, feel free to bring them up again after we're finished with this if you're still willing.

By the way the quote I used has a link to it. Just click to it and you'll get to the post in question.

Nobody is going to change their minds? Looks like you're wrong.

And this is coming from someone who has the LN in their toplist.

Just because you may personally find my comments unhelpful, it doesn't mean everyone does.