| Just finished watching the first three episodes and explored some people's thoughts on the show Apparently, it's pretty agreed the show was rushed up until this point and a lot of things were cut Entire first volume was crammed into three episodes, along with interjecting a bunch of new content which further watered things down. Instead of giving us something "canon adjacent" I think fans would have better appreciated faithfully adapting the first three volumes (the only volumes everyone likes) and then creating a new story from volume 4 onwards (the volumes almost no one liked). As it is now, Studio Shaft is fast forwarding through the only good content the original show had to offer. Soon either we're gonna have nothing but crap parts of the story left, or new spin-off content only. So far the anime isn't terrible, but I think I still prefer the original, as much as it annoys me to say. But considering the anime is butchering the only good parts of the show, not a surprise either. Edit: At least butcher the bad parts of the show only, don't think we'd all be as annoyed then |
ProtakuJun 25, 2022 4:58 PM
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| I personally don’t mind how different this series will be from the original. If they want to have more new characters and even different main villains, that is fine by me. As long as we have a good storyline, excellent animation and fighting scenes accompanied with great music then the show has accomplished its objective. |
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| I think you're all confused. I'm aware this wasn't going to be a 1:1 adaptation, but it should have been, at least until a certain point, for the reasons I listed. It would have been more to their benefit to adapt up to volume 3's end, and then go off in a different direction. Now the entire show is basically just one big spin-off which gives not as much incentive to watch it. |
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| It being mostly new actually gives me more motivation to watch it. Instead of watching the same show I get to see the rwby characters in a different world basically with some sick sakuga. Honestly this seems pretty decent to me. I think some people are just being too pessimistic. If it was just the same people would have complained and if it was 100% different people would. It will never be the original rwby. But it doesn't need to be. |
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| I think it's fine as it is done. Hardcore RWBY fans don't like the 2d animation and still prefer the 3d one. And ofcourse just like fans of any show, they won't like the adjustments or skipping of the content. If you see it from the perspective of the business, it's not to please RWBY fans but to bring RWBY to new viewers, and ofcourse RWBY fans will watch it and spread the word. If it's good to new viewers, it's gonna do well as a show. |
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| I don't agree at all. Maybe because I wasn't religiously worshipping the original RWBY, but I really like that 1. this isn't gonna just redo what already exists and 2. pretty much all the changes and cuts they've done so far. If I want to watch the original RWBY, I can just do so, it's right there on YouTube. I want a new story, and I very much enjoy the pacing and focus established so far. It introduces the relevant cast, what their background is, what issues they have to grow from and their interpersonal relationships very well. Literally the only small gripe I have is that at the end of episode 3, Weiss changing her mind and accepting Blake felt like it came out of nowhere. Like, she says she has been thinking and thinking, but what we've seen is her going from total bigot to whining to Yang for one minute and then in the same afternoon, going like "Oh nah, I don't actually care about any of that, let's be besties!" and it felt kind of jarring. Sure, it's implied to not be fully resolved, but still. That is literally the only part that felt mildly rushed though, everything else feels perfectly well-paced as a standalone story. To me, you just seem really caught up in comparing it to the original RWBY and don't like it because it's not a "faithful" adaptation. You put a ton of "fans think this, fans think that" in your post to make it sound as if your opinion is shared by everyone - be assured, it's not. |
False_Mirror said: Anime-watcher only. Don't care about the OG rwby. Have no problems with pacing and understanding the world so far. Can't wait for the anime to move on to a story written by Urobutcher and Ubukata, and not a couple of American amateurs. Wasting even more time and resources on recreating the original would be an incredible mistake. discarding / hardcore abridging the og material is unironically based but I’m not getting the impression that they’re doing a very great job at it — they haven’t abridged enough and it’s rushed af |
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normiewatcher56 said: This adaptation came out of nowhere and I don't know why people are giving such high expectations about it since the original wasn't amazing either. It's the nostalgia. Only Shaft would give such budget to a throw away series like RWBY, whose strong point isn't its plot or story. Give it to any other studio and all you'll get is still images and horrible animation. |
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Protaku said: Just finished watching the first three episodes and explored some people's thoughts on the show Apparently, it's pretty agreed the show was rushed up until this point and a lot of things were cut Entire first volume was crammed into three episodes, along with interjecting a bunch of new content which further watered things down. Instead of giving us something "canon adjacent" I think fans would have better appreciated faithfully adapting the first three volumes (the only volumes everyone likes) and then creating a new story from volume 4 onwards (the volumes almost no one liked). As it is now, Studio Shaft is fast forwarding through the only good content the original show had to offer. Soon either we're gonna have nothing but crap parts of the story left, or new spin-off content only. So far the anime isn't terrible, but I think I still prefer the original, as much as it annoys me to say. But considering the anime is butchering the only good parts of the show, not a surprise either. Edit: At least butcher the bad parts of the show only, don't think we'd all be as annoyed then Alright, dude, be honest, this is just a glorified opinion post. You talk about how “the fans” would’ve appreciated this or that more, but you’re really just speaking for yourself. As for your idea, it’s pretty flawed. Faithfully adapting the entirety of the first 3 volumes would’ve been A) pretty uninteresting as it would’ve added nothing new (hence why the show just compressed it down to the first 3 episodes). And B) pretty much impossible to do within the length of the average Seasonal Anime without making a similar amount of cuts as the show has done already. And even that’d leave very little room for any actual new content like the show is getting into right now. If you wanted Volume 1-3, you could just watch Volume 1-3. Sure, IQ has better animation, but visuals alone aren’t exactly enough to carry an entire show. They aren’t “butchering” the show, they’re just making sure you’re caught up on everything you need to understand before delving into the new content. Spin-offs exist for the specific purpose off adding new original content to an existing series without having to contradict canon, which you seem to not understand As for doing a post-Volume 3 original storyline, that also doesn’t really seem all that viable. Aside from the fact that the story so far seems to be very heavily rooted in the cast’s Volume 1 characterization (especially Weiss’), it’d also be very hard to make an original post-Volume 3 story without diverging from canon, which seems to just be what you want anyway. Except that’s not what this show is at its core, it’s a spin-off, it isn’t meant to be above or contradict canon more than it needs to. Not to mention that, as you mentioned, the first 3 Volumes are generally more popular (as proven by all the other spin-off material), so of course they’d make a spin-off show rooted in the setting and characterization from Volume 1. It honestly seems to me that you’re just projecting everything you wanted out of RWBY onto this show and using that as an excuse to rag on the parts of the original that you don’t like. |
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| There's more "good content" than this in the original but they already mentioned that first few episodes were going to be a recap. |
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False_Mirror said: GreatAide said: discarding / hardcore abridging the og material is unironically based but I’m not getting the impression that they’re doing a very great job at it — they haven’t abridged enough and it’s rushed af As I understand it, these episodes were a compromise between trying to please the fans of the original (or at least not to piss them off) introduce the newcomers to the series and prepare the basis for the main plot of the spin-off, at the same time, without going beyond one cour (bearing in mind that they had an original plot for 8 episodes). I think they more or less managed to do it, although a compromise is a compromise, I've hardly watched any of the OG stuff myself but I really got the impression they were overly faithful in adapting some of the og scenes to the frame (the screenplay & dialogue is sooooo awkward and amatuerish). A bunch of awkward scenes that someone could easily abridge for the better if not for an arbitrary need to somewhat faithfully adapt. RWBY seems like it has some cool underlying concepts & some neat visuals, so compromising at the expense of the show's overall quality i think is such a shame ;\ |
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| I'm glad this a canon adjust, otherwise og fans would come and complain about each and every detail that the anime missed. I think it's a wise decision to pick the parts where RWBY peaked and then going on an original path. And whatever you do, some OG fans would always be disappointed unless it's a 1 to 1 adaptation. If this becomes popular enough and sells well, future of RWBY anime will be bright. |
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| The original story was trash anyway. Monty Oum was responsible for animating the fight scenes and those were the only good parts. The rest of the show was terrible cause not only the two writers had to keep inserting in fighting scenes that Mounty came up out of nowhere (with new characters even), but also these writers were bad to begin with and they even decided to insert themselves into the plot (they even dubbed their own characters) for stupid reasons instead of advancing the plot. I hope for a completely new story here written by someone who knows how to do it. Otherwise this will be a bad anime. |
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HatTrickPatrick said: Protaku said: Just finished watching the first three episodes and explored some people's thoughts on the show Apparently, it's pretty agreed the show was rushed up until this point and a lot of things were cut Entire first volume was crammed into three episodes, along with interjecting a bunch of new content which further watered things down. Instead of giving us something "canon adjacent" I think fans would have better appreciated faithfully adapting the first three volumes (the only volumes everyone likes) and then creating a new story from volume 4 onwards (the volumes almost no one liked). As it is now, Studio Shaft is fast forwarding through the only good content the original show had to offer. Soon either we're gonna have nothing but crap parts of the story left, or new spin-off content only. So far the anime isn't terrible, but I think I still prefer the original, as much as it annoys me to say. But considering the anime is butchering the only good parts of the show, not a surprise either. Edit: At least butcher the bad parts of the show only, don't think we'd all be as annoyed then Way too much of your post is passing your opinion on as if it were irrefutable, so it's hard to give a shit about what you're saying. I don't understand where you're getting that from but ok, thanks for giving enough a shit to comment on my thread, buddy. |
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SunlitSonata said: Protaku said: Just finished watching the first three episodes and explored some people's thoughts on the show Apparently, it's pretty agreed the show was rushed up until this point and a lot of things were cut Entire first volume was crammed into three episodes, along with interjecting a bunch of new content which further watered things down. Instead of giving us something "canon adjacent" I think fans would have better appreciated faithfully adapting the first three volumes (the only volumes everyone likes) and then creating a new story from volume 4 onwards (the volumes almost no one liked). As it is now, Studio Shaft is fast forwarding through the only good content the original show had to offer. Soon either we're gonna have nothing but crap parts of the story left, or new spin-off content only. So far the anime isn't terrible, but I think I still prefer the original, as much as it annoys me to say. But considering the anime is butchering the only good parts of the show, not a surprise either. With the exception of the dock fight scene, the original soundtrack, and a lot of the goofy humor that became memes, I think most of Volume 1's cuts were actually to its benefit. It combined separated scenes together with a more honed in focus on the show's title characters and helped a lot of characterization feel more consistent. Aside from the Dream stuff which was relevant later, other additions like the early showing of Weiss's family and Taiyang I think helped the show more than hurt it. A big problem with RWBY as a whole is how half-assed and hastily built the overarching plot elements are; the pileup and focus on those leads to the post-V3 seasons getting bogged down in shit and needless characters that only weighs it down. This being a separate character story I think could be one of the series highlights, much like how the Apathy storyline in Volume 6 is one of the most universally liked parts of the post-V3 era. I would have liked it more if Shaft took the scalpel and cut up season 4+ instead, but whatever. This anime wasn't terrible or anything, but I feel like they could have done better or cut out a bit less of one of the only good seasons RWBY has. Infamous_Empire said: Protaku said: Just finished watching the first three episodes and explored some people's thoughts on the show Apparently, it's pretty agreed the show was rushed up until this point and a lot of things were cut Entire first volume was crammed into three episodes, along with interjecting a bunch of new content which further watered things down. Instead of giving us something "canon adjacent" I think fans would have better appreciated faithfully adapting the first three volumes (the only volumes everyone likes) and then creating a new story from volume 4 onwards (the volumes almost no one liked). As it is now, Studio Shaft is fast forwarding through the only good content the original show had to offer. Soon either we're gonna have nothing but crap parts of the story left, or new spin-off content only. So far the anime isn't terrible, but I think I still prefer the original, as much as it annoys me to say. But considering the anime is butchering the only good parts of the show, not a surprise either. Edit: At least butcher the bad parts of the show only, don't think we'd all be as annoyed then Alright, dude, be honest, this is just a glorified opinion post. You talk about how “the fans” would’ve appreciated this or that more, but you’re really just speaking for yourself. As for your idea, it’s pretty flawed. Faithfully adapting the entirety of the first 3 volumes would’ve been A) pretty uninteresting as it would’ve added nothing new (hence why the show just compressed it down to the first 3 episodes). And B) pretty much impossible to do within the length of the average Seasonal Anime without making a similar amount of cuts as the show has done already. And even that’d leave very little room for any actual new content like the show is getting into right now. If you wanted Volume 1-3, you could just watch Volume 1-3. Sure, IQ has better animation, but visuals alone aren’t exactly enough to carry an entire show. They aren’t “butchering” the show, they’re just making sure you’re caught up on everything you need to understand before delving into the new content. Spin-offs exist for the specific purpose off adding new original content to an existing series without having to contradict canon, which you seem to not understand As for doing a post-Volume 3 original storyline, that also doesn’t really seem all that viable. Aside from the fact that the story so far seems to be very heavily rooted in the cast’s Volume 1 characterization (especially Weiss’), it’d also be very hard to make an original post-Volume 3 story without diverging from canon, which seems to just be what you want anyway. Except that’s not what this show is at its core, it’s a spin-off, it isn’t meant to be above or contradict canon more than it needs to. Not to mention that, as you mentioned, the first 3 Volumes are generally more popular (as proven by all the other spin-off material), so of course they’d make a spin-off show rooted in the setting and characterization from Volume 1. It honestly seems to me that you’re just projecting everything you wanted out of RWBY onto this show and using that as an excuse to rag on the parts of the original that you don’t like. I don't understand why you think I'm projecting or anything; this is literally what most people are thinking about the show right now, just go and read the episode threads. Anything is feasible with the right budget, but apparently Shaft was given enough to better adapt the first volume, oh well. This whole show is non-canon in my eyes so I'll just turn my brain off for it. |
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| @Protaku your idea sounds like a good one, but if taking Ice Queendom into account, it's already very clear that everyone at least wants a proper adaptation of the 1st 2 volumes, which I agree that the scriptwriters simply didn't take into account and rushed the progression that leaves no time to rest on the audience wanting to understand the world of RWBY. Also, it's clear that this 12-episode series is its own "canon adjacent" thing, so again, covering the entirety of Volumes 1 and 2 of RWBY would eat a lot of time into a self-contained "new" series, so it's the act of balancing what's needed and not. |
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KANLen09 said: @Protaku your idea sounds like a good one, but if taking Ice Queendom into account, it's already very clear that everyone at least wants a proper adaptation of the 1st 2 volumes, which I agree that the scriptwriters simply didn't take into account and rushed the progression that leaves no time to rest on the audience wanting to understand the world of RWBY. Also, it's clear that this 12-episode series is its own "canon adjacent" thing, so again, covering the entirety of Volumes 1 and 2 of RWBY would eat a lot of time into a self-contained "new" series, so it's the act of balancing what's needed and not. Yeah, that's probably true. Writers are probably just working with whatever budget they got. Still would have been nice to see a more faithful adaptation of at least the first 3 volumes though. |
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