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Jun 6, 2022 4:54 PM
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I haven’t read the source material (although I do plan to at some point) but I understand that the ending to the last season was an anime original ending and it didn’t introduce a character that will be somewhat important for the future of the series. Has it majorly effected how season 2 could play out or would it be able to join back in with the source material without anything major lost? I certainty enjoyed the anime original ending so I wouldn’t be disappointed with more of that calibre but we all know how anime originals can turn out. Without too much spoilers what are the implications of this on the future of the anime adaptation?

An extra question, what proportion of manga has already been adapted for season1?
Jun 6, 2022 5:00 PM
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Since season one had an anime original ending, I'm seriously worried, that we are facing another Tokyo Ghoul situation.
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Jun 6, 2022 5:01 PM
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While the original anime was airing the author tweeted out that they were asked to rewrite the story to work as a one season show, which included not introducing that character. They said that if it got a second season they'd find a way to introduce them later.

I assume they'll just completely ignoring the last few eps (the original ending) like Oreimo or DxD
Jun 6, 2022 5:04 PM
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MagicPolly said:
While the original anime was airing the author tweeted out that they were asked to rewrite the story to work as a one season show, which included not introducing that character. They said that if it got a second season they'd find a way to introduce them later.

I assume they'll just completely ignoring the last few eps (the original ending) like Oreimo

That sounds pretty good then. But that must mean they just made this anime as an advertisement for the manga, not expecting too much and it did quite well. Since they weren’t expecting a season 2. Hopefully that means they’ll continue to adapt it for as many seasons as it will take.
Jun 22, 2022 2:53 AM
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it's cloverworks so it'll be like tpn just read the manga it's pretty well colored
Jun 22, 2022 10:50 PM
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A_Off said:
it's cloverworks so it'll be like tpn just read the manga it's pretty well colored
where is your source?


Jun 23, 2022 4:32 AM
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chriskor022 said:
A_Off said:
it's cloverworks so it'll be like tpn just read the manga it's pretty well colored
where is your source?

i read the manga and i can say confidently that this anime is 99 percent ruined unless someone very talented in cloverworks pull off a masterpiece of a script but if they had someone like that they wouldn't ruin so many anime with butchering them
Jun 23, 2022 12:03 PM
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A_Off said:
chriskor022 said:
where is your source?

i read the manga and i can say confidently that this anime is 99 percent ruined unless someone very talented in cloverworks pull off a masterpiece of a script but if they had someone like that they wouldn't ruin so many anime with butchering them
i can say with 99 percent that your prediction is wrong. Are u blind about the trailer or just the KV. And ruined is a big word when the 1 season is not. And more anime ruined, where? Because its only one and SH is different production


Jun 24, 2022 12:21 AM
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chriskor022 said:
A_Off said:

i read the manga and i can say confidently that this anime is 99 percent ruined unless someone very talented in cloverworks pull off a masterpiece of a script but if they had someone like that they wouldn't ruin so many anime with butchering them
i can say with 99 percent that your prediction is wrong. Are u blind about the trailer or just the KV. And ruined is a big word when the 1 season is not. And more anime ruined, where? Because its only one and SH is different production

Horimiya, Wonder Egg, Persona 5 the animation and tpn s2
also for SH Robe Sama foreshadowing is gone
exposing rum in the final episode
Edward's nonsensical actions
these three factors prevent the plot to unveil like how it did in the manga
unless if there's a talented guy working on the script
Jun 24, 2022 1:42 AM

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Horimiya is a good adaption that cut the fillers and has a good score. WEP is anime original so not a good comparison and this type of anime is subjective they have fans like it and dont.P5 is a fine adaption just adapt the major plots which seems rushed but its not. The issue is more on animation. TPN2 is rushed because the manga is completed when the anime is airing even when they greenlit S2. your examples is not a good comparison because they have a different problems and they source material is finished when it airs their anime.

Robe sama foreshadowing can be showed in the S2 its not detrimental because its gonna be ok. Rum reveal is normal for an anime adaption its a sneak peek for future season but in anime they dont reveal it or says the name just a silhoulete. Edward is weird and that nonsensical action is in character with him. Its one of his character traits. The scriptwriter is the one writing for TPNs1,86, HnK anime scripts. He is talented, so i dont worry about it. And with the author help its gonna be good


Jun 24, 2022 3:11 AM
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i hope it turns out a good adaptation but just because the manga is finished doesn't mean they should rush it like that i mean good studios won't do that
horimiya chapters weren't fillers it was an sol anime they cut so many good parts which shows the chemistry amongst the characters and funny moments that was the essence of horimiya and the score doesn't determine anything
wonder egg is an axed original anime it was so obvious that even a blind person could tell they give up on it because they couldn't handle the work anymore
Edward in the manga is seems a nonsensical character but he acts always logically and plan everything before making his move not abducting Kate blindly for the absurd reason of making her confessing and also revealing his powers to Kate which she don't know until here in the manga and now make her aware of his plots
even if the script writer somehow pull it off the manga stays superior cause everything was done very well
Jun 24, 2022 8:38 PM

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A_Off said:
i hope it turns out a good adaptation but just because the manga is finished doesn't mean they should rush it like that i mean good studios won't do that
horimiya chapters weren't fillers it was an sol anime they cut so many good parts which shows the chemistry amongst the characters and funny moments that was the essence of horimiya and the score doesn't determine anything
wonder egg is an axed original anime it was so obvious that even a blind person could tell they give up on it because they couldn't handle the work anymore
Edward in the manga is seems a nonsensical character but he acts always logically and plan everything before making his move not abducting Kate blindly for the absurd reason of making her confessing and also revealing his powers to Kate which she don't know until here in the manga and now make her aware of his plots
even if the script writer somehow pull it off the manga stays superior cause everything was done very well
they can rushed its not rare its sad business practice because it is just to advertised the manga and studio is not the one who can decide, its more on production committee. And they decide to drop it and just ends it on 2nd season by rushing and cutting an arc.

The Horimiya one the popular opinion is the fillers after the confession and propasal is bad and the story is going downhill. And just because the skipped it does not affect the overall anime because in the manga its just a mundane no story SOL. And Horimiya is romcom so for almost 7 yeaes the main characters Hori and Miyamura are sidelined to no progress relationship of side chara that frustrates many readers. I know score does not mean anything, but if you judged it that its ruined or bad for justifying that the studio is gonna ruined SH S2 is your subjective opinion. Is not true, because Horimiya is just good adaption and just cutting the fillers which is both manga readers and anime onlies accept.
WEP is original you cant compare it, you just finding faults to justify your ignorance about how anime production works, even me that is not knowledgeable knows. And the production is a passion project, more on the scriptwriter is the one give up. Thats why its for is unfinished. But ignoring the special the 11episodes is good enough that its just a problem of time.

Thats fair but for me because the author helped wrote it, its just an additional personality of Edward. Im a fan of it and some dont which is ok. Its weird i give you that.
That fair too assumption but its normal that source material is superior than anime. Even faithful ones is not immune to it too


Jun 29, 2022 7:45 AM

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I don't remember the ending of S1 very well but as a manga reader I'd say it's okay. Edward is shown at many points in the manga to harbor a deep hatred towards Kate mostly because of the debut outcome, so this whole kidnapping thing (aside from Rum's reveal which was lame as fuck) can be worked around.


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Jul 1, 2022 11:18 AM

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I already assume that this season season will still venture into original territory even after getting back in track in its first half.
Jul 8, 2022 12:39 AM

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As has become the standard with these things - the problem with the last three episodes or almost one-fourth of season one of Shadows House wasn't the existence of the story beats in and of themselves in terms of what they were and that they happened, but rather how they were executed.

The magnitude to which terrible pacing and sparse, skipped over details and development can quickly ruin any story and series and tank all the goodwill hitherto accrued and wonder and awe inspired in the majority portion of its runtime never ceases to amaze me.
Jul 8, 2022 1:33 AM
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But as far as I remember (1 year ago) the anime had an original ending precisely because maybe they thought it wouldn't sell well or that it wouldn't be successful. But they announced a second season much faster than I expected, I bet if the producers knew that the anime would be well accepted they wouldn't have created an original ending. But I liked that last episode
Jul 8, 2022 1:35 AM
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Infatuate said:
I don't remember the ending of S1 very well but as a manga reader I'd say it's okay. Edward is shown at many points in the manga to harbor a deep hatred towards Kate mostly because of the debut outcome, so this whole kidnapping thing (aside from Rum's reveal which was lame as fuck) can be worked around.

I actually don't even remember the entire first season, I think I need to watch some scenes again, anyway I'm happy to have a second season and curious at the same time
Jul 9, 2022 1:55 AM
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first episode was straight out of the manga i'd say is back on course and the original ending last season was just to avoid loose ends if it was just the single season.
this episode is from the end of volume 4, which is as far as i've read, and comes right after the debut, party and water, so it has circled back to were they left the story for the original ending in season 1
Jul 9, 2022 2:36 AM

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Matheus0220 said:
But as far as I remember (1 year ago) the anime had an original ending precisely because maybe they thought it wouldn't sell well or that it wouldn't be successful. But they announced a second season much faster than I expected, I bet if the producers knew that the anime would be well accepted they wouldn't have created an original ending. But I liked that last episode

The production staff losing faith in the project's success while they're still in the midst of doing the scriptwriting for said project? That obviously makes no sense.
Somato confirmed in a interview with Comic Natalie (interview done when the anime started airing) that the time between the decision to start animating Shadows House and the anime's television kickoff was relatively short, so we can assume that the decision to have an original final arc for the anime was a choice made early during the anime's development process.
Jul 10, 2022 4:00 AM

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The author promised if the show gets season 2, he would "fix things" so the plot no longer deviates from the source too much.
Literally at the start of episode 1, we see the "robed person" who had to appear in season 1 but was removed. In other words, it seems like the author is keeping his word and bringing this important character back.
Jul 12, 2022 4:43 PM
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Matheus0220 said:
But as far as I remember (1 year ago) the anime had an original ending precisely because maybe they thought it wouldn't sell well or that it wouldn't be successful. But they announced a second season much faster than I expected, I bet if the producers knew that the anime would be well accepted they wouldn't have created an original ending. But I liked that last episode

The production staff losing faith in the project's success while they're still in the midst of doing the scriptwriting for said project? That obviously makes no sense.
Somato confirmed in a interview with Comic Natalie (interview done when the anime started airing) that the time between the decision to start animating Shadows House and the anime's television kickoff was relatively short, so we can assume that the decision to have an original final arc for the anime was a choice made early during the anime's development process.
It was just my speculation, I see you are more informed than me on the subject, now it really makes sense, thanks for the correction

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