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Apr 21, 2022 8:41 AM
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As the title says. Because somehow those disgusting cliche rapey rapey villains are just disgusting to watch. Why are there never well written villains with some brain in those stories and it's always just enslaving little girls and wanting to rape them?!
Apr 21, 2022 8:47 AM
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i mean i didnt read the manga but i do agree about the fact this show feels like its just full of perverted villians lol.

i liked the show dont get me wrong but..
Apr 21, 2022 8:55 AM
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__MoRaX__ said:
i mean i didnt read the manga but i do agree about the fact this show feels like its just full of perverted villians lol.

i liked the show dont get me wrong but..


yeah I get what you mean. I dind't read the manga too. But to begin with I like the setting with him being a skeleton under an armor. The princess in ep1 or in ep2 the little girl whom he went herbs collecting or now in ep3 the elf girl, they seems all very nice and there could be so many nice stories with exploring the world like Kuma Kuma or just a typical Isekai when he doesn't seem so stupid as many others. I just don't like those enslaving and raping settings which sadly so many animes have - and not only isekais to begin with. But I just hope that this case is solved next episode and then it gets way nicer 😊
Apr 21, 2022 9:02 AM
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It's another brain dead isekai, my expectations are very low.
Apr 21, 2022 9:03 AM
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Xiamthy said:
__MoRaX__ said:
i mean i didnt read the manga but i do agree about the fact this show feels like its just full of perverted villians lol.

i liked the show dont get me wrong but..


yeah I get what you mean. I dind't read the manga too. But to begin with I like the setting with him being a skeleton under an armor. The princess in ep1 or in ep2 the little girl whom he went herbs collecting or now in ep3 the elf girl, they seems all very nice and there could be so many nice stories with exploring the world like Kuma Kuma or just a typical Isekai when he doesn't seem so stupid as many others. I just don't like those enslaving and raping settings which sadly so many animes have - and not only isekais to begin with. But I just hope that this case is solved next episode and then it gets way nicer 😊
Xiamthy said:
__MoRaX__ said:
i mean i didnt read the manga but i do agree about the fact this show feels like its just full of perverted villians lol.

i liked the show dont get me wrong but..


yeah I get what you mean. I dind't read the manga too. But to begin with I like the setting with him being a skeleton under an armor. The princess in ep1 or in ep2 the little girl whom he went herbs collecting or now in ep3 the elf girl, they seems all very nice and there could be so many nice stories with exploring the world like Kuma Kuma or just a typical Isekai when he doesn't seem so stupid as many others. I just don't like those enslaving and raping settings which sadly so many animes have - and not only isekais to begin with. But I just hope that this case is solved next episode and then it gets way nicer 😊
i hope so too i mean it looks like a show with a massive potential but somehow they always manage to f the show up recently
Apr 21, 2022 9:04 AM
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Who reads the manga of something that’s originally a LN?

Idk but to me these fantasy stories just work better in LN format than in anime. So most of the time when they get adapted to anime they don’t really convey the same feeling. The rape thing is mostly for shock value, some people don’t really care about it, so maybe this is just not for you.
Apr 21, 2022 9:22 AM
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MadanielFL said:
Who reads the manga of something that’s originally a LN?

Idk but to me these fantasy stories just work better in LN format than in anime. So most of the time when they get adapted to anime they don’t really convey the same feeling. The rape thing is mostly for shock value, some people don’t really care about it, so maybe this is just not for you.

I agree with the LN part, I have been reading thr overlord LN and gotta say it has much more depth to it, the way the characters act in the anime makes much more sense when you read the LN cause of how much background they give
Apr 21, 2022 9:32 AM
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Well, basic definition of villain is he is evil. Rape is evil. So all villains rape.

Thats the mentality used when making such villains for shows like this.
Apr 21, 2022 9:57 AM
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Don't judge a book by its cover brainlet. LOL.
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You know the writer isn't really good when all the villains do the exact same thing, easiest way to find out if a isekai is terribly written is seeing 2 or more rapist villains in a single season, this is a almost fool-proof method of knowing the writing is trash

Atleast the animation here is really good imo, and up till now it doesn't seem like a complete wish-fullfilling/power-fantasy story
Apr 21, 2022 1:24 PM

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they are mobs that are not even considered to be called villains.
Apr 21, 2022 1:35 PM

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Xiamthy said:
As the title says. Because somehow those disgusting cliche rapey rapey villains are just disgusting to watch. Why are there never well written villains with some brain in those stories and it's always just enslaving little girls and wanting to rape them?!


You think it's a cliche when this is the lived experience of so many women...

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Apr 21, 2022 2:05 PM
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borderliner said:
Xiamthy said:
As the title says. Because somehow those disgusting cliche rapey rapey villains are just disgusting to watch. Why are there never well written villains with some brain in those stories and it's always just enslaving little girls and wanting to rape them?!


You think it's a cliche when this is the lived experience of so many women...



What I meant was that it's a cliche for anime, light novels and Manga. It's a horrible thing to do and I can't understand why people do that. My biggest problem is that I get the feeling that those sources/authors try to whitewash a horrible thing and let it seem like it's nothing seriously bad and a thing bad guys just do. But I don't want to get to big in that topic.
Personally I would like some well thought villains who seriously think how to go against the mc by hindering mcs growth or making the life harder but not to just capture girls, sell them and wanting to rape them. But since I skipped through the manga I'm not sure that this anime will get a well thought villain...
Apr 21, 2022 2:36 PM

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Xiamthy said:
borderliner said:


You think it's a cliche when this is the lived experience of so many women...



What I meant was that it's a cliche for anime, light novels and Manga. It's a horrible thing to do and I can't understand why people do that. My biggest problem is that I get the feeling that those sources/authors try to whitewash a horrible thing and let it seem like it's nothing seriously bad and a thing bad guys just do. But I don't want to get to big in that topic.
Personally I would like some well thought villains who seriously think how to go against the mc by hindering mcs growth or making the life harder but not to just capture girls, sell them and wanting to rape them. But since I skipped through the manga I'm not sure that this anime will get a well thought villain...


It has become a sort of shorthand for sure, but I think this show does not make light of it.

I think we've already been introduced to the villain, and of course it's political.

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Apr 21, 2022 3:49 PM
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i feel like that was just a clickbait, a good one
Apr 21, 2022 5:11 PM
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Xiamthy said:
As the title says. Because somehow those disgusting cliche rapey rapey villains are just disgusting to watch. Why are there never well written villains with some brain in those stories and it's always just enslaving little girls and wanting to rape them?!

Nah bro it was just that one scene in the first episode. Believe me u won't regret watching this
Apr 21, 2022 5:53 PM
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To keep this simple:

It's just a matter of situation escalation, you can't just jump right into the big fish without going into conflict with smaller ones first since Arc has no reason to interfere with politics.

As you can see in ep 3 all those things in ep 1&2 are politically driven for the throne succession war, and that thing cost a lot of money.

Elf sell for a high price (especially male elves in this universe) so they are a huge target for kidnapping and got sold.

on other hand, you have MC with no connection to this world and all his connection so far is one-off or just civilian that doesn't hold political power.

Now he met Aridan who will drag him to the strife of succession war indirectly by hurting the income of the second prince so thing will start to escalate.
Apr 21, 2022 11:50 PM

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MadanielFL said:
Who reads the manga of something that’s originally a LN?

Idk but to me these fantasy stories just work better in LN format than in anime. So most of the time when they get adapted to anime they don’t really convey the same feeling. The rape thing is mostly for shock value, some people don’t really care about it, so maybe this is just not for you.

Transcript of that infamous scene in question from the source material:



So, the child that was tormented in episode 3 was originally an adult woman in source material.
Also, after comparing both the episode 1 scene and this one with its respective manga, I can conclude that the anime definitely upped the lewdness of the show.
In the manga the scenes are depicted as horrifying and less focusing on the lewd parts, here it gets more close shot and tends to lingers longer.

As I mentioned before, the guy that is directing this also directed Symphogear and he seemingly loves shock factor involving children.
I'm Symphogear you literally have kids being brutally murdered in episode 1.
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Apr 22, 2022 12:12 AM
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This show is good isekai, not isekai trash.
Apr 22, 2022 5:25 PM

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Here we go again with those sensitive people, same as Goblin slayer, you got warned at the start, and we dont see anything..

And the thing is, its just one scene, not more, for now, we dont know yet but I dont think its gonna be the main focus, its a comedic anime, relax x)
Apr 25, 2022 8:34 PM
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I kinda forgot, I dropped the manga a long time ago
Apr 25, 2022 10:48 PM

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This is bait. LMAO
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Apr 26, 2022 9:39 AM

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Uh who cares? it was just a good 30 seconds out like 20 mins of the whole episode

It's not really all that important, bandits rape girls, simple. Kinda of the most braindead method to make a villain but whatever, bandits are the same equivalent to jobbers anyway. Otherwise this is a slow life Isekai. Best to enjoy it for what it is.

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The only good thing is that they didn't directly went through with the Rape like some other Rape series (where there were actual insertions)

This one just have them "about to" but gets "save the day" by Arc.

No actual insertion is done in any of them. So right now it's "Molesting" and not yet "Raping"
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Apr 29, 2022 9:19 AM
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So far there wasn't a single scene where rape was shown, so calm your tits.
May 5, 2022 11:41 PM

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LightVelox said:
You know the writer isn't really good when all the villains do the exact same thing, easiest way to find out if a isekai is terribly written is seeing 2 or more rapist villains in a single season, this is a almost fool-proof method of knowing the writing is trash

Atleast the animation here is really good imo, and up till now it doesn't seem like a complete wish-fullfilling/power-fantasy story
Well it's bad writing in general to give one trait of something bad to a villain. They are just known as "The rapist" than their actual name. It's a lighthearted iseaki that is trying desperately to be edgy.
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May 15, 2022 11:36 AM
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Xiamthy said:
What I meant was that it's a cliche for anime, light novels and Manga. It's a horrible thing to do and I can't understand why people do that. My biggest problem is that I get the feeling that those sources/authors try to whitewash a horrible thing and let it seem like it's nothing seriously bad and a thing bad guys just do. But I don't want to get to big in that topic.
Personally I would like some well thought villains who seriously think how to go against the mc by hindering mcs growth or making the life harder but not to just capture girls, sell them and wanting to rape them. But since I skipped through the manga I'm not sure that this anime will get a well thought villain...


I don't think that's what's going on here.

Secondly, the subject isn't whitewashed here.

Thirdly, the show is good and continues to get better and better.
May 16, 2022 8:04 PM
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but we can't ignore this type of villain is real in real life and much more commons.

so no argument to made here.

this kinda also awareness to it, and the hidden massage is kill all pedo / raper and masacre them all don't jail them like arc did.

well in real life they only get jailed + release, if i need to remind you all we are too soft than arc.
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Xiamthy said:
As the title says. Because somehow those disgusting cliche rapey rapey villains are just disgusting to watch. Why are there never well written villains with some brain in those stories and it's always just enslaving little girls and wanting to rape them?!


Can you be dumber than that? I don't think so.

It was some lowly bandits. Those guys murder, steal and why not...rape as well (it's funny how you complain about rape, murder is fine. There is no problem in killing all the women, as long as they are not raped, right?). You think that is a big deal? They are not supposed to be some important characters...they were immediately killed for Christ sake.

Sigh...MAL's forum is truly going down hill with so much of these kinda people here nowadays =/

LightVelox said:
You know the writer isn't really good when all the villains do the exact same thing, easiest way to find out if a isekai is terribly written is seeing 2 or more rapist villains in a single season, this is a almost fool-proof method of knowing the writing is trash

Atleast the animation here is really good imo, and up till now it doesn't seem like a complete wish-fullfilling/power-fantasy story


All the villains = to some stupid bandits? Are you serious? Are you questioning the writer's skill just because he wrote a scene where bandits were trying to rape a girl?

You are a genius dude.
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KaeUBW said:
Xiamthy said:
As the title says. Because somehow those disgusting cliche rapey rapey villains are just disgusting to watch. Why are there never well written villains with some brain in those stories and it's always just enslaving little girls and wanting to rape them?!


Can you be dumber than that? I don't think so.

It was some lowly bandits. Those guys murder, steal and why not...rape as well (it's funny how you complain about rape, murder is fine. There is no problem in killing all the women, as long as they are not raped, right?). You think that is a big deal? They are not supposed to be some important characters...they were immediately killed for Christ sake.

Sigh...MAL's forum is truly going down hill with so much of these kinda people here nowadays =/

LightVelox said:
You know the writer isn't really good when all the villains do the exact same thing, easiest way to find out if a isekai is terribly written is seeing 2 or more rapist villains in a single season, this is a almost fool-proof method of knowing the writing is trash

Atleast the animation here is really good imo, and up till now it doesn't seem like a complete wish-fullfilling/power-fantasy story


All the villains = to some stupid bandits? Are you serious? Are you questioning the writer's skill just because he wrote an scene where bandits were trying to rape a girl?

You are a genius dude.

One scene or 3? If 3 yes, cause he can't think of anything original
May 21, 2022 9:05 AM

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Unfortunately the latter. I'm acknowledging Arc being a good point in the show as he is a silly and funny protagonist. But the rest of the story is pretty bland. The subplot so far basically just human wanting to rapes hot elf's girls. It wasn't exactly creative.
May 22, 2022 2:50 AM

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The main story is about Arc adventure
The subplot is about Arc go around destroying elf trafficking business due to his contract with Elf.
The overreaching plot is about the world politic (Royal family problem, and the relationship between human and elf)

Rape (there is none, actually) is an element present in the story due to the subplot but they are not the focus.
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Marina2 said:
The main story is about Arc adventure
The subplot is about Arc go around destroying elf trafficking business due to his contract with Elf.
The overreaching plot is about the world politic (Royal family problem, and the relationship between human and elf)

Rape (there is none, actually) is an element present in the story due to the subplot but they are not the focus.

This is basically it in a nutshell. The "rape" situations serve to drive up tension in the plot, when in actuality, Arc will swoop in to save the day. Some might call it cliché, but it's a good one in this instance in my opinion because you feel the payoff when he wrecks absolutely everyone trying to rape and pillage. It's power fantasy, plain and simple, done extremely well.
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Its actually an attempt at rape rather than rape itself.




May 26, 2022 2:25 PM

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1. There's no rape.
2. They weren't the villains.

That's all.
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You mean is it just one of those hit anime? I wish
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How is this thread is going?
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Xiamthy said:
As the title says. Because somehow those disgusting cliche rapey rapey villains are just disgusting to watch. Why are there never well written villains with some brain in those stories and it's always just enslaving little girls and wanting to rape them?!

The rapey stuff will end after this season (as of ep 10, i believe we're in the last stretch of it) at least when using the manga as a base, the main reason it has a good deal of that in the first season is that it's dealing with the slave trade, after this season it should start dealing with the

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How is this thread is going?
It's going i guess, like i said my post basically sums it up.
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I think it does indulge a bit too much in the hacky tropes, but it's fun enough to look past it, and it never gets explicit. I would kind of say the worst thing that's happened is actually in the most recent episode where the villain casually feeds a prostitute to a monster.
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As far as I can remember, because I couldn't care much for the scenes, they were at most molested and not raped?
etc. etc.

No (on screen) rape actually happened, the two girls in the beginning were just groped.
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it's a nice brain-off action 'just enjoy' show. Like the Transformers movies. You ain't looking for story in them. It's just the action. Either like it or not but that's how it is.

And to be correct: no rape actually happened in the show. Just attempted.
Also need to differ between villains and generic bad guy. The villain was who ordered for the princess in ep1 to be killed or kidnapped (can't remember). The mobster bandits were the ones to decide to try to rape.
And while i think the author could have used other and maybe better means to establish the bad guys as bad, the reaction some people have is so exaggerated. It's just pixels on a screen, nobody was hurt. Grow up.
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