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Do you think once veganism becomes the norm, this show will be viewed in a more negative light?

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Apr 14, 2022 1:10 AM
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I love this show, I really do. However, I can't help but notice how pro-animal agriculture it really is. Personally, I don't mind it, but I fear once vegans start populating the global population, people are going to frown at its messages.

I mean the main character literally goes through full blown cognitive dissonance by the end of season 1. Even with all the animal murder and the reality of showing pigs and chickens getting killed for pleasure, it has me think that vegans are going to have a hard time trying to justify that 8/10 score on mal in the future.

But, what do you think? Would people just ignore it as a product of its time, or will it legitimately be viewed as problematic? If its the latter, and vegans tend to view meat eating in the same light as rape and mass murder, expect it to be compared to the likes of Redo of Healer in the future.
Apr 14, 2022 1:51 AM
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I don't think Silver Spoon takes a stance about that. It shows the bad part and the good part. There is no vegan character just because it doesn't make sense in that context.

Of course, I think someone will dislike it, but I don't think vegans will conquer the world and this anime suffers it. Maybe some popular vegan make common to criticize it, but no more.
Apr 14, 2022 2:03 AM
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Daninokuni said:
I don't think Silver Spoon takes a stance about that. It shows the bad part and the good part. There is no vegan character just because it doesn't make sense in that context.

Of course, I think someone will dislike it, but I don't think vegans will conquer the world and this anime suffers it. Maybe some popular vegan make common to criticize it, but no more.


Yeah I can definitely see PETA and That Vegan Teacher making a hoopla about it.
Apr 14, 2022 5:48 AM
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Bronwulf said:
Daninokuni said:
I don't think Silver Spoon takes a stance about that. It shows the bad part and the good part. There is no vegan character just because it doesn't make sense in that context.

Of course, I think someone will dislike it, but I don't think vegans will conquer the world and this anime suffers it. Maybe some popular vegan make common to criticize it, but no more.


Yeah I can definitely see PETA and That Vegan Teacher making a hoopla about it.

Well, is there anything they are not whinning about already?
Apr 14, 2022 6:59 AM
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I don't think veganism will ever become the norm...I love meat too much to give it up anyway
Apr 14, 2022 1:02 PM
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Asking omnivores to become plant boys is like asking a dog to only eat carrots, veganism Will never be the norm.
Apr 14, 2022 3:26 PM
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Bronwulf said:
I love this show, I really do. However, I can't help but notice how pro-animal agriculture it really is. Personally, I don't mind it, but I fear once vegans start populating the global population, people are going to frown at its messages.

I mean the main character literally goes through full blown cognitive dissonance by the end of season 1. Even with all the animal murder and the reality of showing pigs and chickens getting killed for pleasure, it has me think that vegans are going to have a hard time trying to justify that 8/10 score on mal in the future.

But, what do you think? Would people just ignore it as a product of its time, or will it legitimately be viewed as problematic? If its the latter, and vegans tend to view meat eating in the same light as rape and mass murder, expect it to be compared to the likes of Redo of Healer in the future.
Veganism is already pretty normal, I don’t think you have to worry about it getting a bad rep. Even if a vegan with the extreme views you’re talking about comes across this anime, I doubt they’d give it a chance based off the cover/synopsis.
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Apr 14, 2022 5:33 PM
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yeah, "veganism becomes the norm"... lol
Apr 14, 2022 11:26 PM
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I think what you’re proposing is interesting for what you’re trying to go for here, but I don’t think it’ll ever reach those lengths.

Silver Spoon does display a lot of livestock but it’s a show that attempts to shed some information and a lense into the Japanese agricultural life of Hokkaido. I don’t believe it’s attempting to make its message that the slaughter of animals is a good thing but more so a lighthearted, careful way of handling the topic.

From what I understand, Japan is very much more conscious and respectful for how good is processed and handled. For Silver Spoon to have a moral of what the system is doing is wrong would be defeating the purpose of its characters and setting and of course a false depiction for what it’s creator Hiromu Arakawa’s perspective growing up in such an environment and how she came to respect and understand it. There’s certainly some commentary on the process of livestock and meat being made but, again, that’s beyond the point.

Now, whether or not the show is pro-slaughtering and domestication of living creatures or not, I don’t think the majority of those who are vegan will watch this show and be disgusted. Certainly not to the point they’d cringe at the overall 8/10 score this series has. I don’t know if you know any pleasant vegans or vegans at that, but I think it’s pretty odd to assume if the world’s population became more rife with veganism that if any of them watched this show that they’d be concerned Silver Spoon is problematic.

Also strange you believe vegans would believe bacon production is on the same level as rape and murder. There’s no direct correlation with not consuming or using animal products and hysteria.

If we were in a world where everyone, or most, of the earth’s population was vegan, I can see a timeline of that having this show being seen as “of its time” and not one that’d be regarded as despicable. Reason for it is that Silver Spoon isn’t inherently malicious on its portrayal. It’s a function of the word that was and is present in its time. It would have to be some type of far off future where horse riding/racing was no longer a thing in Japan at the least and for meat to be consumed at a rapid decline for that to affect anything long term and even then, I doubt people would pick this show up and go “nah, this ain’t it.”
Apr 15, 2022 3:29 AM

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Bronwulf said:
I love this show, I really do. However, I can't help but notice how pro-animal agriculture it really is. Personally, I don't mind it, but I fear once vegans start populating the global population, people are going to frown at its messages.

I mean the main character literally goes through full blown cognitive dissonance by the end of season 1. Even with all the animal murder and the reality of showing pigs and chickens getting killed for pleasure, it has me think that vegans are going to have a hard time trying to justify that 8/10 score on mal in the future.

But, what do you think? Would people just ignore it as a product of its time, or will it legitimately be viewed as problematic? If its the latter, and vegans tend to view meat eating in the same light as rape and mass murder, expect it to be compared to the likes of Redo of Healer in the future.


I wouldn't worry. It's a bit difficult to try and take down a show when you're suffering from protein deficiency.
Well I for one already loved Lain.
Jun 30, 2022 8:26 PM
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I think of this show as educational, SOL, and a bit of romance.
Sure, there are serious moments where they discuss morality and ethics. But in the end, it's up to us to interpret this show however we want.
And also, I guess people should also learn about how halal meat is processed. Perhaps that would alleviate concerns of cruelty during slaughtering of animals.
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Runasius said:
I love this show, I really do. However, I can't help but notice how pro-animal agriculture it really is. Personally, I don't mind it, but I fear once vegans start populating the global population, people are going to frown at its messages.

I mean the main character literally goes through full blown cognitive dissonance by the end of season 1. Even with all the animal murder and the reality of showing pigs and chickens getting killed for pleasure, it has me think that vegans are going to have a hard time trying to justify that 8/10 score on mal in the future.

But, what do you think? Would people just ignore it as a product of its time, or will it legitimately be viewed as problematic? If its the latter, and vegans tend to view meat eating in the same light as rape and mass murder, expect it to be compared to the likes of Redo of Healer in the future.
im a vegetarian have no problem with it same thing if it an anime was about vegans but still a good story people would still like it
Aug 24, 2022 1:32 AM
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What disturbs me most is that you allude veganism believes agriculture is equated with rape and murder.

While I can clearly see ignorant peta extremist hypocrites proposing this ideal, this show is nothing but wholesome.

When will vegan extremists recognize that plant lives are just as valuable as animal lives, as the main character expressed in this show?

Its a stupid question.

And in summary this show is more about appreciating and coming to terms with the fact that life revolves around responsible consumption. and that consumption is not only unsustainable when it's entirely based on greed and gluttony, but that conservation is impossible without consumption.

It gently balances the lives of humans, animals, plants, and environment in a rather productive manner that is easy to digest and interest others in said topic.
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Aug 24, 2022 1:45 AM

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>implying that veganism will ever become the norm
Even if it becomes mandated in some future dystopian society we're gonna have meat counterculture, secret meat societies, meat samizdat and meat terrorism.
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