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Feb 11, 2022 6:50 PM
#1
From what I've noticed, it's not that hyped. I've only seen a few people actually following the series. I'm one of them lol. I've been waiting for the next season so I just keep rewatching the series. I really think it's on par with Haikyuu though. I've seen a video where they tackled why they disliked the series and they said the reason why. It was because of the flow of the story. It really took a lot of time before we saw Eijun became the ace. |
LevyChaseFeb 12, 2022 1:21 PM
Feb 11, 2022 7:53 PM
#2
I think we shouldn't compare diamond no ace with haikyuu because each and every anime deserves it's own respect and identity. |
Feb 11, 2022 7:58 PM
#3
Diamond no Ace reminds me of hajime no ippo. They kind of have same style. I like it overall Anyways sports anime are usually not very popular (ofcourse with few exception like haikyuu) or even mostly disliked or uninterested genre for many people (source - animeplanet). So that's there. |
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Feb 11, 2022 8:10 PM
#4
underrated? maybe if you look at it as whole yeah it's underrated. but it's really popular among the people who love to watch sports anime |
Feb 11, 2022 10:53 PM
#5
Yes Diamond no ace is underrated anime and it's really awesome to watch (even you're not into sports) |
Feb 11, 2022 11:54 PM
#6
My second favorite anime of all time. Definitely highly underrated. Probably cause it’s baseball and Sawamura is pretty obnoxious |
Feb 12, 2022 1:08 AM
#7
I think it’s not as popular as anime like haikyuu and kuroko because our MC don’t start getting results immediately, it’s not as satisfying as other sports anime from the start, but the growth is instead really slow paced. That’s what makes this show so good tho. |
Feb 12, 2022 1:21 AM
#8
I personally wouldn't say so, it's fairly rated but if we're talking about popularity then maybe. |
Feb 12, 2022 2:26 AM
#9
It's difficult with a sports anime to have a following, especially baseball that is known mostly in USA. On the other hand, volleyball is more accessible and so Haikyuu. Personally, I love both shows. The character and skill developments are insane, the tension high, and we get an elaborate insight into the sports. |
Feb 12, 2022 4:46 AM
#10
Yes the second season is one of my favorite seasons of any sports anime. I think not a lot of people are committed to the number of episodes it takes for the show to become “good” as in where there’s non stop action and obviously this is after Sawamura and the other characters get character development. |
Feb 12, 2022 12:51 PM
#11
I totally agree, Daiya is one of my favourite anime overall. I’ve been waiting forever to be able to talk about this so I apologize in advance for the long post! The plot does progress slowly in terms of the protagonist achieving his goals, but I think it’s a lot better than becoming amazing super fast or with few barriers. Especially with Sawamura, who lacked a lot of basic skills at the beginning compared to the others. It kind of reminds me of Slam Dunk in that way, but with (many) more episodes. A lot of people aren’t really interested in baseball to begin with since it requires more patience to watch than say volleyball or basketball, but the pacing of the story does fit the sport. There’s a lot of really great character development that occurs over the course of the series, but I don’t think most people are willing to wait as long as it takes to realistically occur, even in an anime, which is unfortunate but understandable. Someone else pointed out Furuya, who had awesome growth, and Sawamura too, who can be kind of annoying and obnoxious at first, experiences a lot of obstacles and limitations, and becomes a better person and baseball player to overcome them as a result. I love his character arc personally too because I know first hand how difficult it is to catch up at his age + at such a competitive level (irl Japanese high school baseball, especially in Tokyo, is hardcore af), even if he does have a special type of pitch. Even with raw talent, you need to work for it, and that’s what Sawamura (and others) are forced to learn time and time again. Failure is common, as it always is in baseball (more than a lot of other sports perhaps; even the best players are only able to hit 30-40% of the time). It may be frustrating for a viewer who expects more streamlined or faster change/resolution, but I personally find it far more satisfying (and relatable) when they do finally succeed after facing hurdles that aren’t easy to overcome. Even the “prodigy” characters like Miyuki, Narumiya, etc., experience major difficulties at times, rather than being flawless. The Seidou 3rd years from the Act 1 do not make it to Koshien, and they won’t ever have a chance to again. It’s disappointing, for viewers and the characters themselves, but that’s what happens. Only one team can win, and Seidou has been on the losing side a fair number of times too. In terms of Sawamura, his long struggle with the yips was something I haven’t really seen in many other sports anime (that I’ve seen). He hits rock bottom and stays there, despite his initial desire to move past it. He isn’t able to retain a constantly positive/motivated attitude, and almost gives up several times. It’s not just a short period of regress or stasis, it had a long-term psychological impact that can still be seen in his character now. Often in other sports anime, protags are able to overcome their weaknesses in less than a season, perhaps even a training arc or two, and slingshot back into further skill development without many lingering effects. That is not the case with Sawamura; his self-doubt and difficulty moving forward from his failures were some of the most relatable aspects of his character, not limited to just baseball or sports. That’s why it was amazing to see him slowly emerge from that dark place, not being treated by the author as just as a mini block for his skills that would be forgotten or ignored later once they magically rebound into a super-talented player. Similarly, it would have been really rushed imo if he was able to get the #1 in his first year. The fact that this is even a bit controversial is wild to me. First years rarely, if ever, reach that level so fast. Even Furuya who was given it after Tanba retired, was often unable to shoulder the burden of the position. Seidou’s club has over 80 highly talented members at any given point. A first year, especially one who did not play at a more competitive level prior to high school, wouldn’t be given the number so fast. Recall Toujou at the beginning of S1? He was a top pitcher for a school that reached the Koshien semifinals in middle school, but he got absolutely destroyed by the non-first string 2nd/3rd years. It would just seem forced and undeserved if Eijun somehow got it so early (even if that’s how people felt about Furuya before). Skill-wise, it also wouldn’t make sense. The long period of time before Sawamura got the ace number also allowed for a lot of tension between characters and the subsequent development of their relationships and the team as a whole. The explanations of the sport itself are also integrated really well in my opinion, as the rules can be really complicated and confusing for beginners. |
Feb 12, 2022 1:37 PM
#12
^^^ You took the words right out of my mouth. But I just want to add that the explanation of the sports was indeed really good. As someone who's from a country where no one actually plays baseball and is not well known. I understood it pretty well but I mostly learned it from the other baseball series too which is Major (which I also highly recommend). At first, I don't know anything about baseball but watching the series has made me actually love the sport itself, and someday I really would want to watch a game if I could. |
Feb 13, 2022 3:51 PM
#13
Vanshkuhar said: I think it’s not as popular as anime like haikyuu and kuroko because our MC don’t start getting results immediately, it’s not as satisfying as other sports anime from the start, but the growth is instead really slow paced. That’s what makes this show so good tho. Yep yep. Nicely said. it's like an uphill battle sometimes. I get it , it's long and drags out. Man it's so frustrating to watch sawamura get knocked down and go unacknowledged by others at times. It's rough. I really feel for the dude... DNA is long and slow and whatever else people say, for me DNA is a rollercoaster of stupid beautiful emotions. Definitely underrated. |
Feb 13, 2022 3:55 PM
#14
Also one of my all time favourites. Yeah the ratings are good- like over 8 (give or take for each season I believe) but the numbers for how many viewers have watched it (on MAL atleast) just doesn't sit well with me. I was surprised. Thought more people watched it. BUT this thread is giving me hope. It's so cool to see the love for DNA. |
Mar 19, 2022 6:37 AM
#15
It is kinda underrated, but people generally avoid sports anime and the first season has a total of 75 episodes and that could be the reason people don't wanna start this. |
Mar 24, 2022 9:32 PM
#16
Br3dWinn3rs said: My second favorite anime of all time. Definitely highly underrated. Probably cause it’s baseball and Sawamura is pretty obnoxious Hinata from Haikyuu is way more obnoxious and not nearly as likeable. Yet he's really popular. It's definitely mostly because of the length and baseball |
Mar 24, 2022 9:37 PM
#17
It is still my favourite sports series and Sawamura is a top 5 mc. Definitely underrated as hell tho. It perfectly gives us detailed baseball games and adds character development within the games and also after games. It is masterful. It's a slow burn that is worth the journey. Also I prefer not to compare it to haikyuu because for me it is way better. haikyuu is in my top 15 but this series is top 3 to me. I'd rather see slow, realistic development than instant gratification, and constant feel good moments like hq has because real sports isn't so easy |
killerqueen2000Mar 24, 2022 9:40 PM
Apr 22, 2022 9:57 AM
#18
Apr 23, 2022 7:53 AM
#19
I don't think so. But Major 2nd is underrated indeed. |
May 10, 2022 7:48 PM
#20
LevyMegumi said: I've seen a video where they tackled why they disliked the series and they said the reason why. It was because of the flow of the story. It really took a lot of time before we saw Eijun became the ace. People need to understand the main point of DnA. It's about MC's journey of achieving his goal so naturally that goal will be achieved at the END. Many people don't get this. Certainly Furuya outshining our MC is pissing people off including me ofc, super pissed off. But it needs realisation over and over again to get into our head that these kind of story is needed for the MC's goal no matter how freakind fed-up we get. As for the question, yes I think it is underrated. Seeing the number of users/members(?) for each season goes decreasing, I guess people would only watch season 1 and got fed up after that. Anyway I'd say Diamond no Ace is one of the big sports anime out there. And if you're a sports anime watcher, you cannot leave out DnA. |
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Apr 29, 2:22 PM
#21
Reply to rikabean
I totally agree, Daiya is one of my favourite anime overall. I’ve been waiting forever to be able to talk about this so I apologize in advance for the long post!
The plot does progress slowly in terms of the protagonist achieving his goals, but I think it’s a lot better than becoming amazing super fast or with few barriers. Especially with Sawamura, who lacked a lot of basic skills at the beginning compared to the others. It kind of reminds me of Slam Dunk in that way, but with (many) more episodes.
A lot of people aren’t really interested in baseball to begin with since it requires more patience to watch than say volleyball or basketball, but the pacing of the story does fit the sport.
There’s a lot of really great character development that occurs over the course of the series, but I don’t think most people are willing to wait as long as it takes to realistically occur, even in an anime, which is unfortunate but understandable. Someone else pointed out Furuya, who had awesome growth, and Sawamura too, who can be kind of annoying and obnoxious at first, experiences a lot of obstacles and limitations, and becomes a better person and baseball player to overcome them as a result.
I love his character arc personally too because I know first hand how difficult it is to catch up at his age + at such a competitive level (irl Japanese high school baseball, especially in Tokyo, is hardcore af), even if he does have a special type of pitch. Even with raw talent, you need to work for it, and that’s what Sawamura (and others) are forced to learn time and time again.
Failure is common, as it always is in baseball (more than a lot of other sports perhaps; even the best players are only able to hit 30-40% of the time). It may be frustrating for a viewer who expects more streamlined or faster change/resolution, but I personally find it far more satisfying (and relatable) when they do finally succeed after facing hurdles that aren’t easy to overcome. Even the “prodigy” characters like Miyuki, Narumiya, etc., experience major difficulties at times, rather than being flawless. The Seidou 3rd years from the Act 1 do not make it to Koshien, and they won’t ever have a chance to again. It’s disappointing, for viewers and the characters themselves, but that’s what happens. Only one team can win, and Seidou has been on the losing side a fair number of times too.
In terms of Sawamura, his long struggle with the yips was something I haven’t really seen in many other sports anime (that I’ve seen). He hits rock bottom and stays there, despite his initial desire to move past it. He isn’t able to retain a constantly positive/motivated attitude, and almost gives up several times. It’s not just a short period of regress or stasis, it had a long-term psychological impact that can still be seen in his character now. Often in other sports anime, protags are able to overcome their weaknesses in less than a season, perhaps even a training arc or two, and slingshot back into further skill development without many lingering effects. That is not the case with Sawamura; his self-doubt and difficulty moving forward from his failures were some of the most relatable aspects of his character, not limited to just baseball or sports. That’s why it was amazing to see him slowly emerge from that dark place, not being treated by the author as just as a mini block for his skills that would be forgotten or ignored later once they magically rebound into a super-talented player.
Similarly, it would have been really rushed imo if he was able to get the #1 in his first year. The fact that this is even a bit controversial is wild to me. First years rarely, if ever, reach that level so fast. Even Furuya who was given it after Tanba retired, was often unable to shoulder the burden of the position. Seidou’s club has over 80 highly talented members at any given point. A first year, especially one who did not play at a more competitive level prior to high school, wouldn’t be given the number so fast. Recall Toujou at the beginning of S1? He was a top pitcher for a school that reached the Koshien semifinals in middle school, but he got absolutely destroyed by the non-first string 2nd/3rd years. It would just seem forced and undeserved if Eijun somehow got it so early (even if that’s how people felt about Furuya before). Skill-wise, it also wouldn’t make sense. The long period of time before Sawamura got the ace number also allowed for a lot of tension between characters and the subsequent development of their relationships and the team as a whole.
The explanations of the sport itself are also integrated really well in my opinion, as the rules can be really complicated and confusing for beginners.
The plot does progress slowly in terms of the protagonist achieving his goals, but I think it’s a lot better than becoming amazing super fast or with few barriers. Especially with Sawamura, who lacked a lot of basic skills at the beginning compared to the others. It kind of reminds me of Slam Dunk in that way, but with (many) more episodes.
A lot of people aren’t really interested in baseball to begin with since it requires more patience to watch than say volleyball or basketball, but the pacing of the story does fit the sport.
There’s a lot of really great character development that occurs over the course of the series, but I don’t think most people are willing to wait as long as it takes to realistically occur, even in an anime, which is unfortunate but understandable. Someone else pointed out Furuya, who had awesome growth, and Sawamura too, who can be kind of annoying and obnoxious at first, experiences a lot of obstacles and limitations, and becomes a better person and baseball player to overcome them as a result.
I love his character arc personally too because I know first hand how difficult it is to catch up at his age + at such a competitive level (irl Japanese high school baseball, especially in Tokyo, is hardcore af), even if he does have a special type of pitch. Even with raw talent, you need to work for it, and that’s what Sawamura (and others) are forced to learn time and time again.
Failure is common, as it always is in baseball (more than a lot of other sports perhaps; even the best players are only able to hit 30-40% of the time). It may be frustrating for a viewer who expects more streamlined or faster change/resolution, but I personally find it far more satisfying (and relatable) when they do finally succeed after facing hurdles that aren’t easy to overcome. Even the “prodigy” characters like Miyuki, Narumiya, etc., experience major difficulties at times, rather than being flawless. The Seidou 3rd years from the Act 1 do not make it to Koshien, and they won’t ever have a chance to again. It’s disappointing, for viewers and the characters themselves, but that’s what happens. Only one team can win, and Seidou has been on the losing side a fair number of times too.
In terms of Sawamura, his long struggle with the yips was something I haven’t really seen in many other sports anime (that I’ve seen). He hits rock bottom and stays there, despite his initial desire to move past it. He isn’t able to retain a constantly positive/motivated attitude, and almost gives up several times. It’s not just a short period of regress or stasis, it had a long-term psychological impact that can still be seen in his character now. Often in other sports anime, protags are able to overcome their weaknesses in less than a season, perhaps even a training arc or two, and slingshot back into further skill development without many lingering effects. That is not the case with Sawamura; his self-doubt and difficulty moving forward from his failures were some of the most relatable aspects of his character, not limited to just baseball or sports. That’s why it was amazing to see him slowly emerge from that dark place, not being treated by the author as just as a mini block for his skills that would be forgotten or ignored later once they magically rebound into a super-talented player.
Similarly, it would have been really rushed imo if he was able to get the #1 in his first year. The fact that this is even a bit controversial is wild to me. First years rarely, if ever, reach that level so fast. Even Furuya who was given it after Tanba retired, was often unable to shoulder the burden of the position. Seidou’s club has over 80 highly talented members at any given point. A first year, especially one who did not play at a more competitive level prior to high school, wouldn’t be given the number so fast. Recall Toujou at the beginning of S1? He was a top pitcher for a school that reached the Koshien semifinals in middle school, but he got absolutely destroyed by the non-first string 2nd/3rd years. It would just seem forced and undeserved if Eijun somehow got it so early (even if that’s how people felt about Furuya before). Skill-wise, it also wouldn’t make sense. The long period of time before Sawamura got the ace number also allowed for a lot of tension between characters and the subsequent development of their relationships and the team as a whole.
The explanations of the sport itself are also integrated really well in my opinion, as the rules can be really complicated and confusing for beginners.
@islamatsurika Overall, a pretty mature and sensical analysis, that is rather close to mine. Thanks for making a long post that explains thoroughly how you see it and why. It is rare enough that i can really appreciate it. Most of the time, i see "so kewl !" or "that's crap" and nothing to back up the claims. I can't even tell how tiresome such pointless comments can get over time for me ^^'. I mostly agree with you. You explained a few things pretty well, too. I think that the author is simply good at storytelling and what he does is always logical and meant to build things up as he goes. The only problem, maybe, is that it may be a bit too formulaïc in its logic (often the case in japanese writing) and hence, lack a bit of humanity. Like, the logic can become robotic along the lines of "stimulus >> reaction" that ends up repeating itself. For example, frustrating Sawamura repeatedly is efficient to bring what he wants to bring later on (the satisfaction of him making a come back), but this formulae ends up ignoring the subset of people who have a hard time handling this accumulated frustration (many people in the west, especially in the USA, that is built upon values at odds with those of the "Wa kuni" (individualism and desire for immediate satisfaction for the USA, versus collectivism, worship of the rules and patience for Japan). Japanese people are probably better at handling the frustrating parts of DnA). I stopped caring about "Haikyuu", dropped "Kuroko" and consider "Baby Steps" to be the best sports manga ever (amongst the many i tried). Probably, "Diamond no Ace" is 2nd or 3rd, even though i don't care about baseball, like, at all. But now, i don't care about basketball either. Only Tennis and Rugby :) But this is the thing: a sports anime that makes you excited over a sport you never cared about. When something like that happens, you know you found a good one. And "Diamond no Ace" is definitely one of those. I barely watch animes anymore these days, but i still came here to see if someone had some news about the hypothetical 4th season. That tells something about how much i recommend "Diamond no Ace". |
Nox---Apr 29, 3:46 PM
May 18, 9:06 AM
#22
Reply to Nox---
@islamatsurika
Overall, a pretty mature and sensical analysis, that is rather close to mine. Thanks for making a long post that explains thoroughly how you see it and why. It is rare enough that i can really appreciate it. Most of the time, i see "so kewl !" or "that's crap" and nothing to back up the claims. I can't even tell how tiresome such pointless comments can get over time for me ^^'.
I mostly agree with you. You explained a few things pretty well, too. I think that the author is simply good at storytelling and what he does is always logical and meant to build things up as he goes. The only problem, maybe, is that it may be a bit too formulaïc in its logic (often the case in japanese writing) and hence, lack a bit of humanity. Like, the logic can become robotic along the lines of "stimulus >> reaction" that ends up repeating itself. For example, frustrating Sawamura repeatedly is efficient to bring what he wants to bring later on (the satisfaction of him making a come back), but this formulae ends up ignoring the subset of people who have a hard time handling this accumulated frustration (many people in the west, especially in the USA, that is built upon values at odds with those of the "Wa kuni" (individualism and desire for immediate satisfaction for the USA, versus collectivism, worship of the rules and patience for Japan). Japanese people are probably better at handling the frustrating parts of DnA).
I stopped caring about "Haikyuu", dropped "Kuroko" and consider "Baby Steps" to be the best sports manga ever (amongst the many i tried). Probably, "Diamond no Ace" is 2nd or 3rd, even though i don't care about baseball, like, at all. But now, i don't care about basketball either. Only Tennis and Rugby :)
But this is the thing: a sports anime that makes you excited over a sport you never cared about. When something like that happens, you know you found a good one. And "Diamond no Ace" is definitely one of those. I barely watch animes anymore these days, but i still came here to see if someone had some news about the hypothetical 4th season. That tells something about how much i recommend "Diamond no Ace".
Overall, a pretty mature and sensical analysis, that is rather close to mine. Thanks for making a long post that explains thoroughly how you see it and why. It is rare enough that i can really appreciate it. Most of the time, i see "so kewl !" or "that's crap" and nothing to back up the claims. I can't even tell how tiresome such pointless comments can get over time for me ^^'.
I mostly agree with you. You explained a few things pretty well, too. I think that the author is simply good at storytelling and what he does is always logical and meant to build things up as he goes. The only problem, maybe, is that it may be a bit too formulaïc in its logic (often the case in japanese writing) and hence, lack a bit of humanity. Like, the logic can become robotic along the lines of "stimulus >> reaction" that ends up repeating itself. For example, frustrating Sawamura repeatedly is efficient to bring what he wants to bring later on (the satisfaction of him making a come back), but this formulae ends up ignoring the subset of people who have a hard time handling this accumulated frustration (many people in the west, especially in the USA, that is built upon values at odds with those of the "Wa kuni" (individualism and desire for immediate satisfaction for the USA, versus collectivism, worship of the rules and patience for Japan). Japanese people are probably better at handling the frustrating parts of DnA).
I stopped caring about "Haikyuu", dropped "Kuroko" and consider "Baby Steps" to be the best sports manga ever (amongst the many i tried). Probably, "Diamond no Ace" is 2nd or 3rd, even though i don't care about baseball, like, at all. But now, i don't care about basketball either. Only Tennis and Rugby :)
But this is the thing: a sports anime that makes you excited over a sport you never cared about. When something like that happens, you know you found a good one. And "Diamond no Ace" is definitely one of those. I barely watch animes anymore these days, but i still came here to see if someone had some news about the hypothetical 4th season. That tells something about how much i recommend "Diamond no Ace".
@Nox--- You have good taste haha. Baby Steps and Ace are both one of my favourites |
May 18, 9:36 AM
#23
Reply to killerqueen2000
@Nox--- You have good taste haha. Baby Steps and Ace are both one of my favourites
@killerqueen2000 No, it is YOU who have good taste i would say :D |
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