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Feb 19, 2021 7:28 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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I wasn't too sold into the story this episode but that action speaks for something else. We got some very flashy action from the mechs.

Back Arrow himself continues to impress in terms of combat ability while the others has kept an eye on him. He and Elsha's relationship didn't seem to improve much though.
Feb 19, 2021 8:41 AM
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ex-arm is more interesting than this shit tbh...
Feb 19, 2021 9:00 AM
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spaesu said:
ex-arm is more interesting than this shit tbh...


So stop watching it and stick to JJK/Attack on Mid.
Feb 19, 2021 9:01 AM
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The action was pretty cool this episode, but am I alone in thinking story wise we didn’t get much here? Given the series writers, I think we’re gonna see TTGL style twists pretty soon and the second half will be wild.. hopefully.
Feb 19, 2021 9:03 AM
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They've made it to the wall. Making it all this way in only a quarter of the series couldn't just solve everything yet. Things looked dicey with the granedger almost falling into Rekka hands. Luckily the commanded form Lutoh came to help, this Prax woman could be a great ally. A flying Briheight is really cool, I love the gold and red color scheme. Big discovery that the wall has that exhaust pipe thing at the bottom wonder if we'll see who's operating the wall at some point. Sucks that back arrow decided to stay at the wall despite them not being able to do anything about destroying it. Surely later on Prax can convince him to return.
Feb 19, 2021 9:17 AM
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the wall is clearly man made then its not some magic or god that made it

so ye Lutoh which is a nation of science can really think of something to destroy that wall

that flying BriHeight user is cool too and she is red head so she is sexy hot
Feb 19, 2021 9:17 AM
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Maybe the wall will only break if all force are united as one, a typical shounen plot.

And a strategist character like Shu Bi, I immediately know that everything will go just as he plan until the last minute of final episode (and his plan might succeed throughout the whole anime). I think Shu Bi might already know what's outside the wall.

But the hottest character is still Kai Rhodan, he was jailed naked! And he's a virgin too, a plus for me :) I hope he'll join Back Arrow soon, I don't want a "fight to death" situation though it looks inevitable at this point.
Feb 19, 2021 9:19 AM
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Leaving aside my displeasure with the negativity emanating from other people...I thought this was a really solid episode that managed to seamlessly tie a couple of events from last week into the large plot, which had faded a little from focus yet has received more attention.

The wall being man-made makes sense, but I didn't expect they'd introduce a defense mechanism so quickly into the story. That's interesting.

In addition, it's cool that Shu Bi has actually got the main particle cannon working.

Prax as an enforcer for the princess works nicely, given that the Lutoh cast had been too isolated and needed a shot in the arm...which we got this time, both literally and metaphorically. Not to mention there's also a very good new mecha and I always enjoy seeing that.

And yes, I noticed the teacher clearly knows something is up with Lutoh. Good foreshadowing.

Marinate1016 said:
The action was pretty cool this episode, but am I alone in thinking story wise we didn’t get much here?


Really? I mean, let's think about the gist of what happened this week:

a) Got to the wall and tried to directly break through it, but no luck

b) Introduced a new character from Lutoh and made them an active player

c) Dealt with a couple of the consequences of last episode's little detour

d) Setting up more upcoming events, including what's going on with Rekka on the side

e) Arrow is staying behind at the wall for the time being

I'd say that's a sizable amount of story movement by any objective measure.

Evidently there will be twists and surprises. Since you brought up Gurren Lagann, the first real twist there was Kamina's fate. I think we'll get something on that level eventually, maybe even sooner rather than later, but obviously it's not going to be the same exact story beat.
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Feb 19, 2021 9:23 AM
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Lutoh = all brain
Rekka = all brawn

so ye Shu Bi is out of place on the kingdom of Rekka anyway
Feb 19, 2021 9:55 AM

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Well, this was fine i guess, certainly better than last weeks episode. I did appreciate the pacing a lot more this time around, it wasnt too fast nor was it too slow. Sad they couldnt be able to pass the wall, as that seems like what may make this series shine, but i imagine they are only doing it at the end of the first half (around episode 12). Still dont care about the village, i somewhat get their motives...somewhat, but they are just so unlikable, you just cannot care about them at all. Lutoh`s characters do seem more interesting than the rekka ones, they just seem more mysterious and intriguing.
Feb 19, 2021 10:04 AM
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I'm not surprised that the wall was impossible to break yet, and with how it responded to the attack it is sure not a normal wall, I really wonder who made it.
Some new characters who can be interesting I suppose, and that end of episode... she's clearly determined but I doubt she can defeat Shuu
Feb 19, 2021 10:18 AM
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Cool mecha designs for the two new characters, Bai and Prax’s Briheights share features with their regular appearance, the former has a scar over the left eye, and the latter features something obscuring the arm, the Briheight has some shield looking ornament thing on the left arm and the human design has a cloak on the right arm.

Interesting that naming a Briheight strengthens the conviction of the user, since the Emperor of Rekka named Kai’s Gigan and the show referenced this twice, I figured there was something to it. I also wonder if the Emperor naming the Briheight instead of Kai has any effect since he seemed to do it in response to Kai not having the same loyalty conviction that everyone else had in his presence.

Prax had quite the character establishing moment, dismembering someone for speaking ill of the princess, but otherwise, she seemed to be chill with the main characters, so as long as they don’t upset the princess they should be fine with her, Arrow not going with them isn’t a great start though. Rekka started out less antagonistic towards the main characters mostly because of Shu, while Lutoh was the reason why that bandit in episode one and the Iki officials attacked them in the early episodes, now the reverse seems to be the case.

Briheight users are becoming more formidable, Bai wasn’t able to do damage to Muga’s body, yet aside from Prax no one else seemed stronger than him. With a title like Prax the Bloodstained she’s definitely the Lutoh equivalent to Kai, Baran even seemed scared of her.

That was fast, they’re already at the wall, but of course, getting past it seems pretty difficult otherwise someone probably would have done so already. It even has a defense system that pushed them out of the neutral zone and into Rekka, it felt like a conscious decision to send them towards the hostile enemy rather than Lutoh, Shu mentions it possibly being man-made, not too surprising given the Rakuho. It really does seem like some people created an environment to force people to fight each other, maybe as an experiment to explore human conviction?

Their objective is within reach, but there’s discord amongst Edger, Arrow went off on his own and the previous mayor and about half the other villagers want to leave as well. With the Wall plotline on hold looks like there’s going to be a lot more conflict with the two major powers, Rekka is planning on attacking Lutoh with the Emperor’s help, also Kai and Ren are ready to go after Shu.
Feb 19, 2021 4:34 PM

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Still calling Granedger a dreadnought? OK...if it means the end of the world to them.

I don't understand why you would want to give Briheights names, but I'd guess it's for personal "development".

The villagers literally wanna "jump ship"? I'd guess the Wall is so highly "idolized" as a safe haven for everyone who lived comfortable lives. Unsurprisingly the man-made World Wall is hard to be taken down, that is as much obvious as it is other than the treaty that holds both Lutoh and Rekka down of any potential attacks against Granedger.

Lutoh itself is as broken as Rekka, and Commander Prax the Bloodstained proves one point: Lutoh wants a peaceful fight while protecting Princess Fine and their ambitions.

Bai Toatsu vs. Back Arrow, and the former is a lot akin to Zhang Fei. Prax's interference and as a flying-type Briheight, there's more than just the ground-type ones.

Lutoh's invitiation to Granedger...is both a blessing and a curse. On one hand, both desire the World Wall to be torn down, but the consequences from that...we shall see.

A disjointed story plot, but it's up to future episodes to remedy this.
Feb 19, 2021 8:15 PM
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GolbeztheGreat said:
Leaving aside my displeasure with the negativity emanating from other people...I thought this was a really solid episode that managed to seamlessly tie a couple of events from last week into the large plot, which had faded a little from focus yet has received more attention.

The wall being man-made makes sense, but I didn't expect they'd introduce a defense mechanism so quickly into the story. That's interesting.

In addition, it's cool that Shu Bi has actually got the main particular cannon working.

Prax as an enforcer for the princess works nicely, given that the Lutoh cast had been too isolated and needed a shot in the arm...which we got this time, both literally and metaphorically. Not to mention there's also a very good new mecha and I always enjoy seeing that.

And yes, I noticed the teacher clearly knows something is up with Lutoh. Good foreshadowing.

Marinate1016 said:
The action was pretty cool this episode, but am I alone in thinking story wise we didn’t get much here?


Really? I mean, let's think about the gist of what happened this week:

a) Got to the wall and tried to directly break through it, but no luck

b) Introduced a new character from Lutoh and made them an active player

c) Dealt with a couple of the consequences of last episode's little detour

d) Setting up more upcoming events, including what's going on Rekka on the side

e) Arrow is staying behind at the wall for the time being

I'd say that's a sizable amount of story movement by any objective measure.

Evidently there will be twists and surprises. Since you brought up Gurren Lagann, the first real twist there was Kamina's fate. I think we'll get something on that level eventually, maybe even sooner rather than later, but obviously it's not going to be the same exact story beat.


I'd ignore anyone that says anything negative about BA, considering how unfairly (low) rated this show is on MAL. Im not a huge fan of 90's or mech anime but this show takes the better parts of those with a modern twist/take. This show is pretty dynamic with story ,characters, events. Last weeks ep was borderline filler but this ep made up for it very well.
Feb 20, 2021 5:23 AM

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Pretty good episode, Granedger finally made it to the wall though of course it's not going to be that easy to destroy the wall. And it's got some pretty interesting defenses, doesn't look like the work of God to me or something. Kind of sucks that some of the villagers wants to leave but it's understandable.

Damn, Commander Prax is pretty fucking cool. I hope she doesn't have some shady shit going on based on that preview. Lutoh as an ally would be dope.
Feb 20, 2021 7:36 AM
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is there a limit to the height Prax robot can fly? like can she not fly out of that giant wall?
Feb 20, 2021 2:15 PM

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Honestly, if this wasn't 24 episode show, I would have dropped it. So far, Arrow swings back and forth between interesting and unlikable. Bit is 100% annoying and I wish he'd get killed already, while the villagers are just useless baggage. But since it's a longer anime, there is time to grow.
Feb 20, 2021 9:51 PM
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Well, they finally reached out the world wall. Unfortunately, their power were not enough to destroy it right there. Well, kinda expected it, otherwise this show must be finished without even need a second cour. So, yeah, thats happening in order to get a better understand about the other side of the great world nation, Lutoh.

The additional knight champion was unexpected, tho. She looked pretty chill so far, by helping them from Rekka's dog and a bit of funny. However, with the additional title of 'bloody', and her shocking act by cutting off that gentleman's hand, its not so surprised if the next title shall be explain more about her sudden appearance. Not to mention about that princess, tho, and her surrounding general. Also, general Kai and Ren looked pretty much ready to get revenge. So, well that was good enough to raising my curiosity already. Lets see....
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Feb 21, 2021 6:47 PM

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the defence system of the KABE are like inverted vacuum cleaner that blows air away! could have they think of something better? or something different but more interesting?
3/5.


Feb 24, 2021 12:32 AM

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So weird episode.
Apparently they're already at the wall, and nobody knows absolutely anything about the wall whatsoever. It's not like there's some barrier or a ravine keeping people away. You can just walk right up to it, but their entire civilization never felt any curiosity to go anywhere near it. And when they attack it, it spawns hoses and sprays them down with fire extinguishers. This feels like something somebody would have encountered and would know about. Hell, it should be part of the mythos and why you don't go near it. Stay away from the wall or get hosed down by the evil hose hydras!
Feb 24, 2021 4:38 AM

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Lol are they purposedly making characters more annoying. This new girl is pretty annoying too. Also Shu Bi went so far as to secure Ren's future and she thinks he's mocking her, WOW.
Feb 24, 2021 3:58 PM

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Not-Euphemia is upset about Lord Camp Human-Experimenter and he gets appropriate retribution by Prax. We have Shu Bi being the rebel and genius (direct influence from Lelouch) but it's Prax wearing the mask (following the older Char Clone archetype). So will she get to the people who ordered the human experimentation or will that just be a throwaway plot thread?

The wall is confirmed to be artificial with it's giant exhausts that blows away intruders.

It seems to be a vertical wall, not a dome. Instead of breaking through they could:

  • Fly over, Prax may be able to do it.
  • Find a Briheight that can stick to things and climb the wall



I wonder if it turns out the very unrealistic conviction stuff is simulated by those beyond the wall?

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Feb 24, 2021 9:20 PM

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I have a theory. The insides of the wall is just an experiment. Also, the mecha they get from beyond the wall are faulty. Only Arrow has a fully functioning one. They're not SUPPOSED to kill the user upon their destruction. That's why Arrow hasn't killed anyone.
Feb 26, 2021 7:00 AM
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I feel like I’m watching a Code Geass episode.
Feb 27, 2021 11:02 PM

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Prax and the other two ministers' talk feels like a hint that the human experiment has something to do with them, and finally Prax's invitation seems like a trap. The villagers are probably going to be hostages. It was previously suggested that the doctor knows something about Lutoh. From his reaction in this episode, he must know Prax, and it is estimated that there is a problem between them.

Arrow's character makes him choose to stay. It's hard to come to the wall. In case something goes wrong again, he will definitely not allow it. He probably wants to try other ways, but the people have different ideas from him, and he has a character that will not go to debate with them, and the initial decision to break the wall is his business alone. He will not force others to do the same with him.

Shu also wants to break the wall, but he seems to have chosen Lutoh as a transition. With his strategy, he will think of something else. I think no matter what Lutoh is planning to do, the people on board will be fine because of his presence.

To sum up the content so far, Arrow and Shu really want to go outside the wall. Atlee can be explained that she wants to return the favor. Bit is purely fooled, but Elsha really has little reason to be so attached to breaking the wall. The villagers' discontent appeared in this episode, and probably it is going to shape her character later by seeing how she deals with this problem.

Mar 10, 2021 3:16 AM

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I don't know how much Oscar-inspired she was, but now every fictional empire with an important female ruler should have a butch-looked bodyguard? Quite an interesting cliché.
Jul 31, 2021 3:49 AM

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Prax feels suspicious but at least she saved the gang there from Rekka's soldiers. I'm kinda glad Arrow wanted to stay instead of go to Lutoh with the rest, definitely feels like its a big trap.

Feb 1, 2024 9:06 PM

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Atleast The New Red Head Looks Nice.

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