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Jan 15, 2021 1:21 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Anyone have any idea what just happened? Because I sure dont. Seems like Fireball Audio Omoscillonics is an important part of the picture here (at least judging from its cover art), but as of right now that doesnt seem to have been translated.
Jan 15, 2021 1:26 AM
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Has anyone compiled the entire fireball lore because that was confusing
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Jan 15, 2021 1:20 PM
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Theo1899 said:
Has anyone compiled the entire fireball lore because that was confusing

Decoding what is going on is 70% of the fun (like the hints for a postapocalyptic setting, what is going on outside of the castle, how bad are those robots when navigating through the remains of the human civilizational, the outsiders...or maybe all of this is a simulation?).

TV Tropes has some of the answers (but for season one only) - https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Anime/Fireball
Feb 14, 2021 12:22 AM
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The end? Or merely a new beginning?
Jun 13, 2021 11:35 PM
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Magmafrost said:
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Anyone have any idea what just happened? Because I sure dont. Seems like Fireball Audio Omoscillonics is an important part of the picture here (at least judging from its cover art), but as of right now that doesnt seem to have been translated.


Ok where do I begin. Well, basically the entire Fireball canon was inside the mind of Gebäude Bäude (aka, "king of ruins" the Red mech) because he was marooned(?) on a junk planet and needed to create another reality inside his mind to stay sane. Ariadne ("Scarlet headed Drossel") was a fabrication of his mind, yet she encourages him to not not be scared saying "fear breeds bravery" and says history does not repeat, it rhymes instead, moments before she manifests in the "real" world on the junk planet and they both dissolve into light. The next reality is the beginning of an alternate Fireball Humorous where Gedenchtis is replaced by (or always had been) the red Gebäude Bäude, to which Drossel (in her Humorous body) notes his red appearance to which he responds "you have no recollection of me looking like this do you?" to which, in a reflection to the original Fireball Humorous she places a paper in front of her face but this time it is a knowing smile. :' (

Oct 20, 2021 12:04 PM
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Well, what a twist.
You all need to watch Nami.

Apr 18, 2022 7:21 PM
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I only watch this now for Ariadne, after the 1st season i have not laughed much.
Probably 2 episodes i found slightly funny, the rest i did not get.
Maybe it's just me.
Nov 30, 2022 5:50 AM
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I'd say Ariadne did some highly advanced gaslighting our human brains are also mindfucked despite her message being at someone else, trolling him enough to believe that he has reason he'll never actually go outside, allowing for her lazy life more. If so, genius bit, haven't been so convinced by a character's false words since like, Funny Valentine, haha, wow, yeah, holy fuck, crazy ending. She is negative enough (remember her boots) as well as a shut-in to where I could see such a psychological attack to keep her way as how everything goes as super possible, compared to Drossel who was, while easily displeased, still a much more curious personality. Add on top that I'm sure these two are way after our first protagonists, so her being advanced enough to do this doesn't fall away from likeliness. Where with the more hyper tragic ending where that is truth, at least there's still like, a really evident message with crazy execution.
Both ways of imagining definitely work, both endings are really amazing in their own rights, wasn't expecting such a mindfuck.
The first season was still best in general worldbuilding, comedy, however this one was really top stuff for the series as well!
I like how different Ariadne was to Drossel, both were wildly fun, well written characters with their own cool ideas. I did like Drossel more, do love oujosamas, did not realize going in that she was such a wonderfully snooty princess, while also being this robot who's refined, logical, as well as very exaggerated.

It's interesting how like, as far as really significant story beats go for the first three seasons, the first one itself is the full story as far as reaching some conclusion, having a message while also being like, a really fun, cool series. Then the fourth season acts like a weird meta half-sequel, not really following up on the story but mixing around expectations of the series.
Huh, funny comparison showed up in my mind, how it's kind of comparable to the original Evangelion in the first season being a whole story where you'll maybe be like, "ah, I see, sweet, that was the message." Season four is more like End of Evangelion where it really hits you like, "ow, fuck, that message!" Difference is I'd say EoE is super positive, going off topic. For both, it's not like it's more direct with it, but it is suddenly more extreme with it. However it could be a troll robot's biggest mindfuck on everyone so I have the wrong idea (which is all part of her evil plan!).

Awesome series. Second season definitely felt slower, less episodes hit in general, third was sadly super short but fourth definitely hit really interestingly! While also being fresh with its characters, ideas, humour. Favourite season would be the first though. This season however should have the psychological tag added, seriously. Would love some kinda reboot in a different style in the future though. Wish this director had other stuff I could check out, he has some clearly amazing ideas! Ahh, I know I still have aspects I'd like to talk about but there's so much I have to process, haha, which is awesome for how short it is. Finishing post here! Awesome hidden gem which I'm glad I finally watched!
Dec 9, 2022 6:46 PM
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If you like the Fireball series, check out the fan created Discord channel over at https://discord.gg/VJvGttVw
(hopefully I'll have a more permanent link in the future)

We have a number of 3d artists recreating the assets from the series for use in 3d and VR, as well as various topics on the episodes, theories merch and other stuff!

Also, Fan episode!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncW9pPYDciQ&ab_channel=DrosselVonFlugel

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it was a bit hard to make sense of the episode, and season overall,
i watched through charming to gebaude baude just now, and had the impression humorous was a prequel and charming was a sequel,
the chalkboard and proposing she'd forget gerdäschtnicht's name felt like it could have been a foreshadowing gebaude baude,

and the series conclusion seemed to propose that either red robot made up the whole thing in his mind to deal with the loss of what could have been,
or the two were reincarnated to adrianne and red robot after the events of charming,
and/or adrianne and red robot were reincarnated as yellow robot and drossel,

the yellow "dog bot" didn't make an appearance before humorous,
but it also existed in red robot's reality/mind,

red robot certainly seemed to be on top of ruins, potentially of the citadel though, maybe foreshadowed by his "mishap" when he tore up the floor to grab cables,
and other events through the episodes proposed it could have been his dreamworld breaking as reality was starting to intrude, such as him not liking the visitors wrecking the place with fireworks

yellow robot also was very solid on him and drossel being supposed to stay inside,
while red robot kept insisting him and ariadne go outside,


-it seems like his greatest fear, ariadne disappearing, came true when she finally agreed to head outside with him, and also wore the headpiece that was gifted to her by the visitors.
maybe the visitors were intrusive thoughts, and ariadne was red robot's happy place, potentially memories from the past, and in the end he got his wish granted by turning into yellow robot ...


,i had a hard time making sense of this season, since the characters were new and different, and the subjects they brought up didn't feel as fun as previously.
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