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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- This one-shot is 4 minutes long (with end credits). Well this felt more like trailer for anime or demo reel then actual anime but in the same time they never advertised this as more than experimental short. Also I don't have 4k TV so that's that. What about positives? I definitely appreciate effort to make 4K HDR anime because I can imagine this wasn't easy task and overall animation looked nice, if only there was more story to add context to what is happening. My score for this "episode" 3/5 - Like I said earlier I don't have 4k TV so I couldn't appreciate animation to the fullest, so without a plot the only thing I can rate is animation (and its fluidity), art style (which was not bad but nothing special) and music (which was forgettable). Even right now I have hard time to remember more than a few scenes. So I can easily imagine that in a few days I will completely forget about this anime. Like Jeremy Jahns would said "T-minus 1 Day, already forgotten" Overall score for Sol Levante 7/10 - Mainly for effort. Now I wonder if this is limit for hand-drawn animation like actual anime in this quality would be too expensive. If yes, then only future for anime will be CGI... but good CGI, like Pixar/Disney level of CGI. |
Nieznajomy43Apr 2, 2020 5:45 AM
| Manga recommendation: - Spy x Family (Ch.109/? - biweekly) | Sakamoto Days (Ch.196/? - weekly) - MARRIAGETOXIN (Ch.113/? - weekly) | Machi and Oboro (Ch.18/? - biweekly) - Make the Exorcist Fall in Love (Ch.82/? - biweekly) - Monochrome Days (Ch.11/? - biweekly) Anime recommendation: - Deca-Dence (Finished) | Wave, Listen to Me! (Finished) - If My Favorite Pop Idol Made It to the Budokan, I Would Die (Finished) - Diary of Our Days at the Breakwater (Finished) |
| Nice demo, but that's all it was. No substance. |
| Maybe we'll see something better by this group but as a demo, it's fine I guess? |
It really do be like that though. |
| These kind of experimental anime are always welcome. |
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| Don't understand the reviews and what people are expecting from this kind of shorts. ''Visual are great but other thant that...'' It's obvious... Visual is the only purpose of this short, and it should be praised. |
| Visuals were awful imho. Maybe it because I don't have a 4K HDR monitor in my home, but this looks like a trailer for a random Chinese game from 200x, especially the character design - Barbie doll looks better than this. |
| It looked amazing on my 4k TV. And yeah, what were people expecting? This was advertised as a short experimental work that was obviously meant to try and test new technologies that was never used in anime production before. These 3 minutes alone took 2 years to make. Staff had to figure out stuff out along the way and overcome a lot of challenges. It's okay if it didn't turn out perfect in the first ever try. Next tries will be only better. They even made project open source so other people in the industry can learn from their mistakes and successes and make future projects like this only better. There's a good article about the short's production that is well worth a read: https://netflixtechblog.com/bringing-4k-and-hdr-to-anime-at-netflix-with-sol-levante-fa68105067cd?gi=58598af06e79 These experimental works are something we need a lot more and are always welcome as they are ultimately the ones that push any kind of industry forward. |
| From the beginning they said it would be a 5-minute experimental anime, I don't know why people expected some history in this... |
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| Animation has existed for 100 years. Whenever someone talks about "experimental animation" at this point, it usually just means "bad animation", and that is very much the case here. They can use all the pixels they want and fill the screen with all sorts of computer generated special effects, but what's the point if they can't make a decent running cycle for the main character, or even natural arm movements? |
| Honestly, I found this kinda too realistic, and because of that this beautiful piece of shit remains okay...ish (judging the face, all the scenes were great). However, I think the big takeaway is this was animated, I don't know how the fuck they made this but its pretty impressive. In my eyes if this is the future for anime, that would be cool, just don't animate it to the point that it looks too realistic. I don't know why everyone's shitting on this, it was obviously an experiment to better the animation in anime. |
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| Reminds me of vr games when vr originally came out. Big claims but at the end of the day they were just blocky tech demos of what couldn’t even be considered alpha versions of games. The drawing/ semi 3-D/2D animation was a major failing point in my opinion. Netflix and the producers had sooo much room to make something big and good in 4k but instead we got this monstrosity of an amalgamation of failed ideas. At least that’s how I see it. |
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Net5aber said: I have a 4k tv and I don’t see what you’re talking about lmao. It really looked like a trailer for some old Chinese game lmao.neireatwing said: yeah that's definitely because you don't have a 4K TV cuz if you had a 4K TV you would be praising how beautiful the visuals were.Visuals were awful imho. Maybe it because I don't have a 4K HDR monitor in my home, but this looks like a trailer for a random Chinese game from 200x, especially the character design - Barbie doll looks better than this. |
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| gorgeous visuals they should make anime like this kind of reminded me of shingeki no bahamut |
| There's no point in watching this if you don't have a HDR display. That being said, it looks stunning. The animation looks like Flash sometimes, but it's not the point of this film to show fluid animation, but to show what can be done in HDR. |
| looks nice, sadly I only have a 720p screen on my toaster I bet it looks stunning on a 4k tv |
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| For what it was it was rather cool, 4K, HDR, and Dolby Vision Atmos that sure was impressive if you have the right equipment which luckily I do and it was absolutely stunning on a 4k Oled TV with A 5.1.4 sound setup! Pretty solid experiment and action wise it was really damn intense, visually it was stunning and the sound was picture perfect! So even though it's only like 4 minutes it's a concept that might revolutionair anime ho we know it! |
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| Looks good. Would make for a cool screen saver. |
| Guess people were too busy animating and advertising this short they forgot to create a story so that, these sequences of flashy scenes have some kind of coherence. Overall, it was an average short if I'm honest. Visuals were nice but too saturated for my taste, the girl's movements while she was running were really awkward (especially her arms) and due to the lack of context between scenes, I didn't understand what the hell was happening at all. Basically, good animation but zero substance. |
| I'm going to give it a 4, this just felt like a trailer, and while it seemed intriguing, there is nothing there. |
| My anime list |
| Ehh so that was it? Well the visuals were great and that's about it. |
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| ok like what did I watch.... |
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| That poor girl wuz havin’ a rough day, what with plant monsters, volcanoes and flying fish an’ all 😕 Was a very pretty day, but still... 😅 |
| “SAITO! YOU NEED TO EXPLODE! FOR THE WORLD’S SAKE!” |
| Art style was alright; I didn’t think it was horrible. The audio was nice; wish there was more to the story. |
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I hope the future Netflix animes really be this good.   |
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abyss_will said: not really, in fact nowhere near good to justify time wastedlooks nice, sadly I only have a 720p screen on my toaster I bet it looks stunning on a 4k tv |
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| this uses Flash Animation no doubt with those smooth (automatic) in-between animation too and Adobe Flash uses Vector Graphics format so they can automatically upscale the resolution to any size so i think thats how they achieve 4K here im impressed actually since vector graphics is not known for photorealistic details compared to raster graphics (pixel base images) but ye being vector graphics you still cannot escape looking like those flat art style or flat design nice tech demo |
| Yeah, thats a trailer. I give this a 6 with a high hopes for the real show with these technology. |
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| Eh, I thought this was gonna be a full series. |
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| So the main draw was supposed to be the visuals, but it looks terrible. The animations often looked like those minimal graphics you put on game character load screens. You know the ones where you take a 2D image and just manipulate little parts? But at the same time it also looked like lifeless mediocre CGI. Truly an unfortunate mix. |
| I didn't watch this in 4K but as far as I could see as experimental work it looks not the best but still good. Personally found the main character a bit too creepy looking especially with this kind of animation. The art of the fantasy world and creatures looked pretty cool. |
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| 4k flash animation. Awful for character and organic movement, kinda ok for particles and effects, if someone can't draw and needs some cgi alternative real bad. They could throw 16 or 32k at it wouldn't add much value. Hand-drawn my *** |
| Quite the great experiment, my computer actually overloaded with the master file I had on me encoded from certain sources. When it detected the HDR+, it was absolutely mindblowing, and a color usage that I thought it would blind me from how bright and dynamic they were during action scenes lol For what it is, an experiment with 4K HDR+ anime, this was amazing. 8/10 |
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