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Jan 9, 2020 7:44 PM
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It's a very original story (have we had anything resembling this before??) and it explores some big issues...childhood trauma, utopia, getting away from it all, murder
Jan 9, 2020 9:28 PM
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It would have been better if more characters died. Most of the conflict felt like it was resolved too conveniently.
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However, compared to the difference between
existence and non-existence, one and infinite are
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Jan 9, 2020 9:35 PM
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All things that Mayoiga actually need to become something good is more Lion character development and Gen Urobuchi as a scriptwriter.
Jan 9, 2020 9:40 PM
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EndlessMaria said:
It would have been better if more characters died. Most of the conflict felt like it was resolved too conveniently.


kataneer said:
All things that Mayoiga actually need to become something good is more Lion character development and Gen Urobuchi as a scriptwriter.


Interesting. Did you guys like it otherwise?
Jan 9, 2020 9:50 PM
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By design the show had a huge factor holding it back which is the sheer amount of characters and lack of episodes to really build them up. Trying to balance that many characters in 13 episodes even if the story mostly focused on like ~6 of them resulted in generally poor pacing and execution.

Like the ideas it had weren't inherently bad and it kind of got its point across. But it was all around too much of a balancing act to really make it work to any impressive degree. But as for those themes none of them are really that original to anime.
Jan 9, 2020 9:51 PM
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Mayoiga is one of those so-bad-it's-good anime to me. I saw a YouTube video talking about how it is the "B-movie" of anime and thinking of it that way, I have to agree that it does a really good job at being almost intentionally terrible.

Explaining my scoring system would take more than 650 characters.
Jan 9, 2020 9:51 PM
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yeah but the writer is too P**** to kill a single character
Jan 9, 2020 9:57 PM
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Venusmon said:
EndlessMaria said:
It would have been better if more characters died. Most of the conflict felt like it was resolved too conveniently.


kataneer said:
All things that Mayoiga actually need to become something good is more Lion character development and Gen Urobuchi as a scriptwriter.


Interesting. Did you guys like it otherwise?

I liked it enough to finish it. I think I gave it a 6/10.
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"There's a huge difference between one and infinity.
However, compared to the difference between
existence and non-existence, one and infinite are
nearly the same. I am the child destined to become
the best witch... no... The greatest Creator in the world...!"
-Maria Ushiromiya
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Jan 9, 2020 10:07 PM
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It's rough around the edges but it's an interesting exploration of escapism that doesn't use the crutch of time travel or time loops to explore said theme and so doesn't feel contradictory like how a character might find out escapism is a bad thing by using time powers to go through it again and again until he finally learns the lesson.

In Mayoiga, it's explored through the backstories but also the general paranoia the characters go through as well as the individual choices each one makes on whether to stay or leave the island. Also the reliance characters have on each other are tested and questioned during all this.

It's definitely flawed in many ways but its core and how it goes about it is appreciated by me.
Jan 9, 2020 10:13 PM
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It was just one of those kinds of anime where I so wanted it to be something else but we got what we got. I kind of enjoyed it for what it was but I really wanted people to die man. The tension and build up just kind of went “kapoof” and lead to nothing. Then again I’ve heard people say that this was a parody of a horror show so we might just be watching the show wrong or expecting things from it that we shouldn’t. Kind of wish it wasn’t a supposed parody and actually a psychological thriller with betrayals and mind games and “whodunnits.” Also, when the show came out in 2016 it didn’t have the comedy tag and now it does and I kind of find that funny lol.
Jan 9, 2020 10:21 PM

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Venusmon said:

Interesting. Did you guys like it otherwise?


Only as "so bad, that it's actually good" type of comedy.
Ep 6 with CGI monsters was one of the funniest things I've ever seen in anime.
Jan 10, 2020 1:07 AM

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Bold of you to imply it's not the best horror parody of the last decade
Jan 10, 2020 4:30 AM
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Maybe if there were three to four fleshed out main characters, like a group of friends that heard they you could live in a mysterious village.
Instead there were a dozen of characters nobody cared for that explained their bad life experiences in one sentence in a bus and were a stereotype.
Others like Bokurano had a huge cast too, but everyone was more realistic and got time to develop their story.
Jan 10, 2020 4:38 AM
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A_Sad_Dust_Cloud said:
Bold of you to imply it's not the best horror parody of the last decade


I would never respect someone that is afraid to express unpopular opinions; he is a coward ;-)
Jan 10, 2020 4:43 AM
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Maneki-Mew said:
Maybe if there were three to four fleshed out main characters, like a group of friends that heard they you could live in a mysterious village.
Instead there were a dozen of characters nobody cared for that explained their bad life experiences in one sentence in a bus and were a stereotype.
Others like Bokurano had a huge cast too, but everyone was more realistic and got time to develop their story.


To everyone: Yes, it absolutely has a lot of problems but what I'm asking is COULD it have been a great anime IF it was done right considering it has an original premise (do you agree with that one??) and it explores rather deep and important themes?
Jan 10, 2020 4:47 AM
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Venusmon said:
Maneki-Mew said:
Maybe if there were three to four fleshed out main characters, like a group of friends that heard they you could live in a mysterious village.
Instead there were a dozen of characters nobody cared for that explained their bad life experiences in one sentence in a bus and were a stereotype.
Others like Bokurano had a huge cast too, but everyone was more realistic and got time to develop their story.

To everyone: Yes, it absolutely has a lot of problems but what I'm asking is COULD it have been a great anime IF it was done right considering it has an original premise (do you agree with that one??) and it explores rather deep and important themes?

Why do you take my answer for asking that question again?
I don't think you can't have so many characters in 12 episodes. Either you need less characters or more episodes imo.
Jan 10, 2020 4:52 AM
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Maneki-Mew said:
Venusmon said:

To everyone: Yes, it absolutely has a lot of problems but what I'm asking is COULD it have been a great anime IF it was done right considering it has an original premise (do you agree with that one??) and it explores rather deep and important themes?

Why do you take my answer for asking that question again?
I don't think you can't have so many characters in 12 episodes. Either you need less characters or more episodes imo.


Because neither you nor most of the other posters have actually answered my question.
Jan 10, 2020 4:53 AM

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Yes, every premise can be good if it's executed well. Mayoiga's premise is actually pretty interesting so I'd definitely watch a better executed version of it.

Jan 10, 2020 4:56 AM
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Mirai said:
Yes, every premise can be good if it's executed well. Mayoiga's premise is actually pretty interesting so I'd definitely watch a better executed version of it.



Um no, not really.....not every premise can be good even if well executed.
Jan 10, 2020 4:57 AM
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If the question is "Could Mayoiga have been a good series" then no, it could not. It already is a good series. Should I ask another one?
"Could Mayoiga be executed better to appeal to the masses of apathetic people who found nothing of value in the series"? Definitely. However, not of the essence.
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Jan 10, 2020 5:01 AM
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Daniel_Naumov said:
If the question is "Could Mayoiga have been a good series" then no, it could not. It already is a good series. Should I ask another one?
"Could Mayoiga be executed better to appeal to the masses of apathetic people who found nothing of value in the series"? Definitely. However, not of the essence.


Good answer.


So what do you like about it?
Jan 10, 2020 5:05 AM

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Fixed: Charles Manson's Cult The Anime
Jan 10, 2020 5:09 AM
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alshu said:
Fixed: Charles Manson's Cult The Anime


:-)

Well we've seen a lot worse in anime after all.
Jan 10, 2020 5:25 AM

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Venusmon said:

Well we've seen a lot worse in anime after all.

- Worst than what?
- You missed my point. Utopian communities usually turn out bad or more oftenly some form of scam.
Jan 10, 2020 5:29 AM
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alshu said:
Venusmon said:

Well we've seen a lot worse in anime after all.

- Worst than what?
- You missed my point. Utopian communities usually turn out bad or more oftenly some form of scam.


Well we see murder in anime all the time.
Jan 10, 2020 5:36 AM
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Venusmon said:
Daniel_Naumov said:
If the question is "Could Mayoiga have been a good series" then no, it could not. It already is a good series. Should I ask another one?
"Could Mayoiga be executed better to appeal to the masses of apathetic people who found nothing of value in the series"? Definitely. However, not of the essence.


Good answer.


So what do you like about it?

That is has all of the elements a decent story would. Granted it is also a social critique of sorts. It is nothing special, but for what it is, it plays its role as psychological thriller/drama well. It definitely could have been better, but by itself it is "good", good enough for the age it was released in.
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Venusmon said:
alshu said:

- Worst than what?
- You missed my point. Utopian communities usually turn out bad or more oftenly some form of scam.


Well we see murder in anime all the time.

If you don't want murder or at least alpha-beta antagonism, atavistic behaviour and characters experiencing reality warping, don't get a group of psychotic asocial young people together in an isolated place.

A good example is Lord of the Flies.
Jan 10, 2020 6:42 AM

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Maneki-Mew said:
Venusmon said:

To everyone: Yes, it absolutely has a lot of problems but what I'm asking is COULD it have been a great anime IF it was done right considering it has an original premise (do you agree with that one??) and it explores rather deep and important themes?

Why do you take my answer for asking that question again?
I don't think you can't have so many characters in 12 episodes. Either you need less characters or more episodes imo.


There are only 4 main characters in Mayoiga. Bokurano had 18.
The main characters in Mayoiga are well fleshed out enough. They never intent to flesh out the entire cast of the supporting characters. It's obvious when considering the anime follow the step of the main characters and never focus on the supporting cast. Or when it does it's on a second degree in order to let room for the main characters. I thought the setting that the main characters are surrounded in a group of socio-path was clear.
Jun 29, 2020 10:37 PM

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yes, if there's only 10 casts
and if the main character isn't wimpy

Nov 22, 2020 1:36 AM
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tbh yes because the messages and idea is good, but the characters is individually lack of exploration like there's nothing special on each individual, i know they want to potray everyone's past but it doesn't work also the MC is kindaa weak I'd rather see hayato and as MC like they unable to see the potential here. when i was watching this anime all i thought was the characters were stupxd af i can't focus on the main stories
Nov 23, 2020 1:54 PM
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Idea was really original and was a potentially really good. But authority didn't used. Setting was really good. Bus full of losers finding for some mystic village. Sounds really good but had no interesting character or character development, lack of death and gore.
Dec 1, 2020 1:31 PM

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The anime really could have been good in the right circumstances. The idea is great, the setting is great, the atmosphere is great. The characters? Ruined it.

The character list was waaaaay too big, they could have very easily cut the roster in half since many of the characters straight up didn't do ANYTHING. All of their personalities sucked too. Yes, they all had traumatic pasts that affected their psyche, but many of them were still unbelievably idiotic. Love-pon, for example, while I totally understand her backstory, her constant "execute first, ask questions later" personality was grating and cringey. Hayato and his psychotic "Just let me control you, dammit" personality didn't fit too well. His backstory justifies why he thinks like that, but it just didn't work imo. (I'm not a writer by any means, and I certainly couldn't do it better, but it felt off). Lion's whole "I can see when people die" was literally a one and done thing, what was the point? What about Nanko and her constantly grabbing the excess fat on her body? Was that part of her backstory? Guess that'll never be explained even though it was shown multiple times. Koharun said she needed to sacrifice people to help/save her dad??? What the hell is sacrificing anyone gonna do?
Mitsumune and Masaki were probably the only two characters that I think were decent enough. Masaki was the only one I kept watching this for, interesting to see how she tied in to the overarching plot.
I loved the idea of Nanaki, that was cool and is what kept the anime from being god awful.

a lot of people bring up the topic of "Oh, they should have killed people, that would have made this more interesting." I thought that too when I initially picked it up, but that wasn't the point of the anime. I think it's fine that no one was killed (Yottsun's situation where people thought he died was perfectly fine, they could have expanded upon that easily. People slowly accepting their Nanaki's and disappearing while those who are still having troubles accepting it think those people died). Again, I think this is just a "too many characters" thing where people were expecting it but where left emptyhanded.

In the end, it really just boils down to the anime having way too many characters for its own good, and most of the characters' personalities just weren't executed properly. The characters finding literally any pathetic excuse to try to execute Masaki or Mitsumune just felt way too forced. I do think it honestly had the potential to be pretty good, but ultimately its flaws were just too big.
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TenshiTobacco said:
All things that Mayoiga actually need to become something good is more Lion character development and Gen Urobuchi as a scriptwriter.
do u mean lion like character development or lion needed a character development?
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cryfreak said:
do u mean lion like character development or lion needed a character development?

second one
she is the most interesting character for me and got only one short flashback per all 12 eps
Dec 28, 2020 3:21 AM

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Just like what the people here have said, either cut off the unnecessary characters like Dozaemon etc or/and add more episodes.

Then make the Nanaki design better and scarier and not using that kind of crappy CGI.

Also cut off the jokes that doesn't fit with the ambience of the anime like that puke jokes.

Finally, since mystery is also the elements of the anime, make the average characters as smart as Watson (smart enough to be not so out of touch with the situation but not as smart as a detective who are expert at uncovering mysteries like flipping hands). Koharun is fine as she is.
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I honestly think it's so bad it's good.
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If I'm being honest the show could have been alot better. I was intristed for the first few episodes. I started getting bored while watching though. It was fine but I don't think I'll rewatch it sadly.
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I think if Mayoiga (The Lost Village) got rid of the massive info-dumping that ruined the immersion of the anime, and made it a bit of a bloody-horror anime or a ghost-haunting anime, then yes, it could have been a great horror anime.

But sadly, instead of taking the horror route like the anime "From The New World" AKA Shinsekai Yori, it sort of took the Higurashi route for horror, with many silliness involved with the horror, which sort of ruined the immersion every now and then.

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