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Who is more evil Ainz or Tanya In general
May 16, 2019 3:25 AM
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Between Ainz and Tanya who do you guys think is more evil and more vile in their respective series. Tanya for me If compare to Ainz for first two seasons but Ainz is more vile and evil In Season 3 than Tanya and even more so In Overlord Light novel.

Ainz is more evil because He is main goal not out neccesity for survival while Tanya main goal out neccesity to survive.

May 16, 2019 3:43 AM
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Ainz is pretty much just acting the part of evil
May 16, 2019 3:56 AM
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if you are asking about the LN/Manga tanya, yes she's really Evil
The anime really toned down her cruel personality



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May 25, 2019 3:44 PM
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Luna_Hazel said:
if you are asking about the LN/Manga tanya, yes she's really Evil
The anime really toned down her cruel personality


I haven't seen or read anything related to her but in this she seems a lot more normal. Maybe it's just the new environment she's in, and she's able to open up and relax a little without the evilness when discussing her past life in Japan with Ainz as he's finally someone she can talk to about it.
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May 27, 2019 12:22 PM
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Very awkward question. Ainz feels very morally grey but that's because we hear Momonga's thoughts, and as an elder lich he's just doing what's natural, from the point of human morals he's really evil, he's very merciful to those who work under him but he kills by the thousands without emotion and his goal is to conquer the world...
May 27, 2019 1:32 PM
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Tanya is not really evil, just a pragmatist that tries to survive in a world that he/she was thrown into.

Momonga literally lost most of his human emotions and has no problems with causing pain to others to satisfy his ultimately selfish goals.

(I haven't read Tanya novel though.)
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May 29, 2019 5:55 AM
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The problem with the question itself is "evil" is ambiguous.
Evil is different for different people.

I wouldn't consider Ainz to be Evil because he does what he needs to do to look for his friends and protect his guild.
Tanya is not really evil, just has a messed up personality.
May 29, 2019 7:13 AM
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In a D&D alignment chart both Tanya and Ainz would have lawful evil alignment, though the latter has some chaotic evil tendencies (
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I would say that Ainz is more evil because he actively perpetrate evil while Tanya is more dragged by events.
May 29, 2019 10:42 AM
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Tanya is Lawful Evil, she's pretty chill when not in battlefield/having a conversation with Being X. Ainz is evil because he's playing the part of an elder lich.
May 29, 2019 12:24 PM
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In just anime Tanya had only done one evil intention that got people killed, everything else is within Empire law. Despite the war there was nothing strictly evil she've done.

Ainz kills anything get in his way and ignore the rest that are irrelevant to him, but world conquest is coming easier for Ainz and he play out the role and took the conquest advise originally from Demiurge.

I'd say Ainz is more capable of evil despite he had done nothing evil on personal level but on roleplaying model.
May 29, 2019 12:31 PM

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Tanya is by far the most evil one between them two. She will be able to dispose almost everyone just to reach her objective (that's why i love her....and kinda scares me also xD)
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Jun 4, 2019 10:34 AM

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I dont think anyone here is really evil. Ainz kinda has to meet the expectations of his NPCs and isnt human anymore anyway. Tanya certainly isnt a nice person, but from what happens before the war, she is neutral I would say.
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Jun 19, 2019 1:42 AM

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Ainz isn't really evil. He's just an idiot who's following orders from his harem.
Jun 26, 2019 12:23 AM

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Going by the stats alone, Ainz is Evil as he has -500N Karma and does cruel things to undeserving people and he has no concept of Morality. Tanya is just a soldier who is doing what many soldier do and she has Morality and cares about rules.
Jun 26, 2019 2:48 PM

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Definitively Ainz.

He's being evil for the sake of being evil ... to show power.

Tanya is not actually evil, she is harsh and badass because the situation she's in specially demands it from her.
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Oct 21, 2021 10:12 AM

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Tough,
Tanya won't hesitate to be evil if it's more efficient.
Ainz is acting evil - he's actually pretty wholesome in a few ways. I mean if I am his enemy (just because of being forced to be a pawn in the opposition), and somehow manage to contact him convincing that I want to be under his rule, he'll likely take me in/or just ignore me when attacking the opposition. Tanya won't care and will just see if bringing me in will be profitable in any way.
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I voted Tanya, but I wish I could change it. First thing that came to mind was her sociopathy and cold blooded effectiveness as opposed to Ainz's genuine care for the people of Nazarick. But then I realized that Tanya was thrown into a world bound for war and had been thrown around. Even though she's intelligent and has the upper hand of knowing possible outcomes to certain events (the Dunkirk situation), in the end she's just a cog in the machine. She's still a firm believer in personal freedom and that people deserve to be rewarded for their hard work and she does care for her troops despite first considering them just a meat shield.

But yeah, she has to play her part, she had to earn the respect of her troops and fight the possible intertwining of a petty higher power, meanwhile Ainz is pretty much the higher power of his own world. He already has the respect and adoration of Nazarick's people, despite Demiurge and Albedo doing the heavy thinking he always has the final word. He's the Overlord, every life he's taken he took on his own behalf. Those adventurers that ended up eaten/tortured? One word and they'd be given a peaceful death. Surely the monsters assigned to end them had a purpose, but one would argue if a person you're 100% sure was created to be a NPC is as important as a life that might as well be real, because you don't fully understand the nature of the world you've been transported to.

While Tanya does actively try to find loopholes in war law, she only considers the effectiveness of it. And I know my thinking might be off and it's written in a rather chaotic manner, but long story short I think we all look past Ainz's offenses because we know he's a nice guy, but Tanya who's a confirmed sociopath gets the short end of the stick. Funnily enough, they're both defined by misunderstandings in-universe. How many times has Ainz/Tanya done something for it to be later deemed masterful planning by someone else?

And no, LN Tanya isn't more cruel than anime Tanya. LN Tanya was happy to see Visha again after the Rhine, LN Tanya didn't relocate the insubordinate soldiers wanting them to DIE. There was the risk, but only because mages bound to an immobile location are in more danger than those allowed to move freely through the battlefield, but just because the other position leaves the mages vulnerable doesn't mean no one should do it. All three interpretations (LN / manga / anime) greatly differ when it comes to Tanya herself.

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