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Apr 10, 2019 3:30 AM
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According to Visual Novel Data Base they tag Hatano Kanna as prostitute
and i didn't play the visual novel so could any explain why she taged by this!!
Apr 10, 2019 9:46 AM
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ginchan789 said:
According to Visual Novel Data Base they tag Hatano Kanna as prostitute
and i didn't play the visual novel so could any explain why she taged by this!!

Explaining it would be spoilers, but since you marked this thread as a spoiler and you asked for an explanation, then yeah: She is a prostitute.

The original game is 18+, and The 2017 remake removed the sex scenes I believe. I don't know how that will be addressed in the anime since they made it even more simpler than the remake, and 'for all ages' (Almost). From that, you'll hopefully have to find out more from future episodes. Or... You could play the original game~ It's much, much better.
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Lexyvil said:
ginchan789 said:
According to Visual Novel Data Base they tag Hatano Kanna as prostitute
and i didn't play the visual novel so could any explain why she taged by this!!

Explaining it would be spoilers, but since you marked this thread as a spoiler and you asked for an explanation, then yeah: She is a prostitute.

The original game is 18+, and The 2017 remake removed the sex scenes I believe. I don't know how that will be addressed in the anime since they made it even more simpler than the remake, and 'for all ages' (Almost). From that, you'll hopefully have to find out more from future episodes. Or... You could play the original game~ It's much, MUCH better.


Idk how much the remake removed, cause I've seen a fair amount of screenshots of the sex scenes from the original being in the remake, just usually with something like an arm or some other obstruction blocking out the bare breasts.

I haven't played the remake, myself. I just know that I've seen a lot of the material still in from what I seen of other posts. Maybe they only removed a few of them
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Apr 10, 2019 3:24 PM
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Lexyvil said:
ginchan789 said:
According to Visual Novel Data Base they tag Hatano Kanna as prostitute
and i didn't play the visual novel so could any explain why she taged by this!!

Explaining it would be spoilers, but since you marked this thread as a spoiler and you asked for an explanation, then yeah: She is a prostitute.

The original game is 18+, and The 2017 remake removed the sex scenes I believe. I don't know how that will be addressed in the anime since they made it even more simpler than the remake, and 'for all ages' (Almost). From that, you'll hopefully have to find out more from future episodes. Or... You could play the original game~ It's much, much better.

Can you tell me the reason why she is a prostitute and MC will find that or not and what about his reaction when he find that because it seems he love her i'm sorry i can't play the VN and i won't to know to decide i will continue this series or not
Apr 10, 2019 3:57 PM
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Lexyvil said:
ginchan789 said:
According to Visual Novel Data Base they tag Hatano Kanna as prostitute
and i didn't play the visual novel so could any explain why she taged by this!!

Explaining it would be spoilers, but since you marked this thread as a spoiler and you asked for an explanation, then yeah: She is a prostitute.

The original game is 18+, and The 2017 remake removed the sex scenes I believe. I don't know how that will be addressed in the anime since they made it even more simpler than the remake, and 'for all ages' (Almost). From that, you'll hopefully have to find out more from future episodes. Or... You could play the original game~ It's much, much better.


Lexvil did you read the manga version? I have just looked at that. Unfortunately, it was only in Japanese, so I didn't understand it. Does she get raped in the original story(visual novel)? It is the only thing I am interested in right now. If she is, then this anime is over for me.
Apr 10, 2019 3:59 PM
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ginchan789 said:
Can you tell me the reason why she is a prostitute and MC will find that or not and what about his reaction when he find that because it seems he love her i'm sorry i can't play the VN and i won't to know to decide i will continue this series or not

Honestly, this is one of the key plot points and it WILL be explained later in lot detail. So you are better off watching the anime to find out for yourself. Summing this in just one sentence would do Kanna disservice as her reasons are more complicated that it seems now and it would be hard to even explain this without giving other (major) spoilers. There is certainly no easy answer to this.

So, suffice to say, there are some bad rumors going around about her as mentioned in episode two and it may be those are not be as baseless as it would seem, especially for high-school student.You may as well as guess it's also one of the reasons she was forced to switch schools. That's probably more then enough to know about her right now.
Apr 10, 2019 10:35 PM
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Making her a prostitute is IMHO the biggest disservice. Shame, the show seemed good, but I guess it's not for me then, glad I've found this before any NTR and prostitution thing happened.
Apr 10, 2019 10:49 PM
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Making her a prostitute is IMHO the biggest disservice. Shame, the show seemed good, but I guess it's not for me then, glad I've found this before any NTR and prostitution thing happened.
Dropping a story because it contains tropes you don't like even before knowing how they're used in context is extremely narrow-minded.
Apr 11, 2019 12:26 AM
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pharo said:
Making her a prostitute is IMHO the biggest disservice. Shame, the show seemed good, but I guess it's not for me then, glad I've found this before any NTR and prostitution thing happened.
Dropping a story because it contains tropes you don't like even before knowing how they're used in context is extremely narrow-minded.

Yeah, because well explained prostitution, rape or ntr are actually good things.
I feel sad for Kanna, but I feel disgusted by this and since she is also a main character so I can't watch the show now, but at least I won't have to go this whole emotional drama and disappointment later.
There is probably no way to undo her being prostitute by now (I wish), but even then the image is being damaged.
I came here for spoilers, since I've also seen tags on vndb, so maybe someone will rest me assure that everything will be fine and for example, she is not real prostitute and somehow the timeline of her will be fixed or something, so I could enjoy watching this (faint hearted). Sadly it seems to me that is not going to happen.
Maybe I'm narrow-minded, but for me, when a cute and innocent (at least from the view) girl turns out to be a prostitute, it's deal breaker.
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Laukku said:
pharo said:
Making her a prostitute is IMHO the biggest disservice. Shame, the show seemed good, but I guess it's not for me then, glad I've found this before any NTR and prostitution thing happened.
Dropping a story because it contains tropes you don't like even before knowing how they're used in context is extremely narrow-minded.


It is not narrow minded though. Narrow minded would be if he said the show is bad just because it has prostitution in it ( or any thing he doesn't like)
but he didn't

It's not for him so he won't watch it - Nothing wrong with this.

An extreme example of narrow-mindedness would be going on a "crusade" after watching a show (or at least part of it) when it had something you didn't like in it *cough* Goblin Slayer *cough*
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Could anyone answer my question? Does Ayumi get raped or not? She definitely gets sexual harassment, but how about rape? Does Totoyomi rape her in the manga(or visual novel)?
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Mich666 said:
ginchan789 said:
Can you tell me the reason why she is a prostitute and MC will find that or not and what about his reaction when he find that because it seems he love her i'm sorry i can't play the VN and i won't to know to decide i will continue this series or not

Honestly, this is one of the key plot points and it WILL be explained later in lot detail. So you are better off watching the anime to find out for yourself. Summing this in just one sentence would do Kanna disservice as her reasons are more complicated that it seems now and it would be hard to even explain this without giving other (major) spoilers. There is certainly no easy answer to this.

So, suffice to say, there are some bad rumors going around about her as mentioned in episode two and it may be those are not be as baseless as it would seem, especially for high-school student.You may as well as guess it's also one of the reasons she was forced to switch schools. That's probably more then enough to know about her right now.

To tell you the truth i don't mind if there are a major spoiler as much as i won't know the reasoning from doing something like that if you can spoiler to me please do that i won't to continue this series and to be honest i'm not into ntr or prostitution thing i feel disgusting from seeing that and i don't wanna to break my heart for something like plot
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Could anyone answer my question? Does Ayumi get raped or not? She definitely gets sexual harassment, but how about rape? Does Totoyomi rape her in the manga(or visual novel)?

No, she doesn't get raped. Takuya stops him before he can.
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pharo said:
Laukku said:
Dropping a story because it contains tropes you don't like even before knowing how they're used in context is extremely narrow-minded.

Yeah, because well explained prostitution, rape or ntr are actually good things.
I feel sad for Kanna, but I feel disgusted by this and since she is also a main character so I can't watch the show now, but at least I won't have to go this whole emotional drama and disappointment later.
There is probably no way to undo her being prostitute by now (I wish), but even then the image is being damaged.
I came here for spoilers, since I've also seen tags on vndb, so maybe someone will rest me assure that everything will be fine and for example, she is not real prostitute and somehow the timeline of her will be fixed or something, so I could enjoy watching this (faint hearted). Sadly it seems to me that is not going to happen.
Maybe I'm narrow-minded, but for me, when a cute and innocent (at least from the view) girl turns out to be a prostitute, it's deal breaker.


Jfc, dude. Just watch the show and everything will make sense. Nothing in this ruins or disrespects a character's dignity. Stop looking for stuff that you don't even understand. In order to explain this I'd likely have to explain 10 other things in order for this to make sense to you. If you want me to explain why you're making way too big of a deal out of this, it will likely require me to spoil the entire story.
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Yeah, because well explained prostitution, rape or ntr are actually good things.
I feel sad for Kanna, but I feel disgusted by this and since she is also a main character so I can't watch the show now, but at least I won't have to go this whole emotional drama and disappointment later.
There is probably no way to undo her being prostitute by now (I wish), but even then the image is being damaged.
I came here for spoilers, since I've also seen tags on vndb, so maybe someone will rest me assure that everything will be fine and for example, she is not real prostitute and somehow the timeline of her will be fixed or something, so I could enjoy watching this (faint hearted). Sadly it seems to me that is not going to happen.
Maybe I'm narrow-minded, but for me, when a cute and innocent (at least from the view) girl turns out to be a prostitute, it's deal breaker.


Jfc, dude. Just watch the show and everything will make sense. Nothing in this ruins or disrespects a character's dignity. Stop looking for stuff that you don't even understand. In order to explain this I'd likely have to explain 10 other things in order for this to make sense to you. If you want me to explain why you're making way too big of a deal out of this, it will likely require me to spoil the entire story.

Sorry if that sounded desperate. It's just because things like selling your body for money, either if its because you are forced to (one way or another) or worse: you want to, seem disgusting and exactly opposite what you said (undignifying) and I also don't want to attach myself to a character (because she seems for example smart, kind and cute) and then end with broken heart. Yeah, I'm self-inserting faggot with a faint heart. You may laugh now.
So probably either I won't watch the show at all or wait for the show to end, seek for spoilers and then maybe watch if everything will be fine.
Sorry, if that's stupid for you, especially seeing how much you are into the show and vn.
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pharo said:

Sorry if that sounded desperate. It's just because things like selling your body for money, either if its because you are forced to (one way or another) or worse: you want to, seem disgusting and exactly opposite what you said (undignifying) and I also don't want to attach myself to a character (because she seems for example smart, kind and cute) and then end with broken heart. Yeah, I'm self-inserting faggot with a faint heart. You may laugh now.
So probably either I won't watch the show at all or wait for the show to end, seek for spoilers and then maybe watch if everything will be fine.
Sorry, if that's stupid for you, especially seeing how much you are into the show and vn.

Alright, I'll tell you some major spoilers that might change your mind.
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pharo said:
Sorry if that sounded desperate. It's just because things like selling your body for money, either if its because you are forced to (one way or another) or worse: you want to, seem disgusting and exactly opposite what you said (undignifying) and I also don't want to attach myself to a character (because she seems for example smart, kind and cute) and then end with broken heart. Yeah, I'm self-inserting faggot with a faint heart. You may laugh now.
So probably either I won't watch the show at all or wait for the show to end, seek for spoilers and then maybe watch if everything will be fine.
Sorry, if that's stupid for you, especially seeing how much you are into the show and vn.

It really makes me wonder whether closing your eyes to prostitution or rape and finding your safe space makes the world better place for you though. Because those things really do exist even in the real world and just avoiding them doesn't make them go away. Quite contrary, learning about it, finding out what made those women do that and feel for them can help you see their stories in different light. Understand they are women like everybody else, just ones that took wrong way in their lives (or were made to take it due to unavoidable circumstances). Yu-No is not your ordinary hentai or eroge, quite contrary, every sex or intimate experience characters have is put into context for the sake of the story, effectively making a bigger impact on you then stories that only use those as plot devices. Pretending there are no such things is just sticking your head into the ground like ostrichs do.

This make sound harsh but I can also assure you that during playing the game I never found any girl disgusting. Quite contrary, they grew on me a lot more as I got to know them better. What may seems as your ordinary trope in the beginning is then expanded on later and you realize that nothing is just black and white. The novel surely deals with some hard topics but that's mmore the reason to find out why it stands out. Of course, right now I have no way telling how well the anime would be adapted and whether they would make any changes to some key plot-points but judging by my experience with the game it's actually very thought-provoking story.

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ycleped said:
pharo said:

Sorry if that sounded desperate. It's just because things like selling your body for money, either if its because you are forced to (one way or another) or worse: you want to, seem disgusting and exactly opposite what you said (undignifying) and I also don't want to attach myself to a character (because she seems for example smart, kind and cute) and then end with broken heart. Yeah, I'm self-inserting faggot with a faint heart. You may laugh now.
So probably either I won't watch the show at all or wait for the show to end, seek for spoilers and then maybe watch if everything will be fine.
Sorry, if that's stupid for you, especially seeing how much you are into the show and vn.

Alright, I'll tell you some major spoilers that might change your mind.

Thanks, it's really interesting, how they try to reason her situation. You are real hero.
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pharo said:
Sorry if that sounded desperate. It's just because things like selling your body for money, either if its because you are forced to (one way or another) or worse: you want to, seem disgusting and exactly opposite what you said (undignifying) and I also don't want to attach myself to a character (because she seems for example smart, kind and cute) and then end with broken heart. Yeah, I'm self-inserting faggot with a faint heart. You may laugh now.
So probably either I won't watch the show at all or wait for the show to end, seek for spoilers and then maybe watch if everything will be fine.
Sorry, if that's stupid for you, especially seeing how much you are into the show and vn.

It really makes me wonder whether closing your eyes to prostitution or rape and finding your safe space makes the world better place for you though. Because those things really do exist even in the real world and just avoiding them doesn't make them go away. Quite contrary, learning about it, finding out what made those women do that and feel for them can help you see their stories in different light. Understand they are women like everybody else, just ones that took wrong way in their lives (or were made to take it due to unavoidable circumstances). Yu-No is not your ordinary hentai or eroge, quite contrary, every sex or intimate experience characters have is put into context for the sake of the story, effectively making a bigger impact on you then stories that only use those as plot devices. Pretending there are no such things is just sticking your head into the ground like ostrichs do.

This make sound harsh but I can also assure you that during playing the game I never found any girl disgusting. Quite contrary, they grew on me a lot more as I got to know them better. What may seems as your ordinary trope in the beginning is then expanded on later and you realize that nothing is just black and white. The novel surely deals with some hard topics but that's mmore the reason to find out why it stands out. Of course, right now I have no way telling how well the anime would be adapted and whether they would make any changes to some key plot-points but judging by my experience with the game it's actually very thought-provoking story.


I think the real world is absolute hellhole, like Huxley said about earth being other planet's hell. I use anime/manga and other books, and games as form and means of escapism. So yeah basically I close my eyes, to the point I don't believe that real love is possible irl. The funny thing is that such topics doesn't bother me as much in other sources (games, books) than they does in anime and manga.
I understand Kanna better now and it's sad, but it doesn't change my opinion on her much.

So thank you guys for your replies. I guess it is really thought-provoking. I don't know whenever I want to go throght this drama or not, but we will see how the show'll go.
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ycleped said:
pharo said:

Sorry if that sounded desperate. It's just because things like selling your body for money, either if its because you are forced to (one way or another) or worse: you want to, seem disgusting and exactly opposite what you said (undignifying) and I also don't want to attach myself to a character (because she seems for example smart, kind and cute) and then end with broken heart. Yeah, I'm self-inserting faggot with a faint heart. You may laugh now.
So probably either I won't watch the show at all or wait for the show to end, seek for spoilers and then maybe watch if everything will be fine.
Sorry, if that's stupid for you, especially seeing how much you are into the show and vn.

Alright, I'll tell you some major spoilers that might change your mind.


so just a question, since i'm looking into this like Pharo, but you said she is screwing dudes for cash to pay the bills? do they explain why she is getting money from his dad? like was he screwing her? and if not why was she still a prostitute?
oh and just in general, even tho your a prostitute does not mean you are willing lol she clearly doesn't want to screw the drunk pedo (she may be 50, but to him she is 16) it seems like she is just broken... almost lifeless. but ya if you could spoil the whole was the grandfather screwing the granddaughter ? and if not why screw the pedo? thanks
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ycleped said:

Alright, I'll tell you some major spoilers that might change your mind.


so just a question, since i'm looking into this like Pharo, but you said she is screwing dudes for cash to pay the bills? do they explain why she is getting money from his dad? like was he screwing her? and if not why was she still a prostitute?
oh and just in general, even tho your a prostitute does not mean you are willing lol she clearly doesn't want to screw the drunk pedo (she may be 50, but to him she is 16) it seems like she is just broken... almost lifeless. but ya if you could spoil the whole was the grandfather screwing the granddaughter ? and if not why screw the pedo? thanks

In the VN it was actually shown that Takuya's parents actively took Kanna in and took care of her.
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so just a question, since i'm looking into this like Pharo, but you said she is screwing dudes for cash to pay the bills? do they explain why she is getting money from his dad? like was he screwing her? and if not why was she still a prostitute?
oh and just in general, even tho your a prostitute does not mean you are willing lol she clearly doesn't want to screw the drunk pedo (she may be 50, but to him she is 16) it seems like she is just broken... almost lifeless. but ya if you could spoil the whole was the grandfather screwing the granddaughter ? and if not why screw the pedo? thanks

In the VN it was actually shown that Takuya's parents actively took Kanna in and took care of her.


so how do they deal with that in the anime? since she clearly was not "taken in" in it. sorry, but her entire story as i can find ( wiki and forums are fragmented at best) makes 0 sense, it seems like the writer just added the whole *prostitute* angle in to add H scenes into a vn like if you cut prostitute from the show it would still work if his parents payed for her way


(Edit) ya thanks, i'll drop it, i cant stand shitty writing, a plot point that is clearly avoidable and essentially shows rape (again i stand by that she looked broken and un wanting) for no good reason is worthless, take alex from gangsta, that was a good use of prostitution, an unavoidable situation. sorry to wast your time
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ycleped said:

In the VN it was actually shown that Takuya's parents actively took Kanna in and took care of her.


so how do they deal with that in the anime? since she clearly was not "taken in" in it. sorry, but her entire story as i can find ( wiki and forums are fragmented at best) makes 0 sense, it seems like the writer just added the whole *prostitute* angle in to add H scenes into a vn like if you cut prostitute from the show it would still work if his parents payed for her way


(Edit) ya thanks, i'll drop it, i cant stand shitty writing, a plot point that is clearly avoidable and essentially shows rape (again i stand by that she looked broken and un wanting) for no good reason is worthless, take alex from gangsta, that was a good use of prostitution, an unavoidable situation. sorry to wast your time
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ycleped said:

In the VN it was actually shown that Takuya's parents actively took Kanna in and took care of her.


so how do they deal with that in the anime? since she clearly was not "taken in" in it. sorry, but her entire story as i can find ( wiki and forums are fragmented at best) makes 0 sense, it seems like the writer just added the whole *prostitute* angle in to add H scenes into a vn like if you cut prostitute from the show it would still work if his parents payed for her way


(Edit) ya thanks, i'll drop it, i cant stand shitty writing, a plot point that is clearly avoidable and essentially shows rape (again i stand by that she looked broken and un wanting) for no good reason is worthless, take alex from gangsta, that was a good use of prostitution, an unavoidable situation. sorry to wast your time

First off, calm down, you haven't wasted my time.

Second, she was alone for 20+ years before his parents took her in. They were giving her money but she still had a crave for physical attachment so she turned to prostitution even still for that.
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Second, she was alone for 20+ years before his parents took her in. They were giving her money but she still had a crave for physical attachment so she turned to prostitution even still for that.

That is very nice way to say that she was just craving for d***. It just seems that she is a slut, but clever enough to get money from this. Enjoy your NTR, because that was not only one from this like it seems. I'm just happy that I didn't watch this.
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pharo said:
That is very nice way to say that she was just craving for d***. It just seems that she is a slut, but clever enough to get money from this. Enjoy your NTR, because that was not only one from this like it seems. I'm just happy that I didn't watch this.

You sound stupid and stuck in your own little bubble viewpoint. Look at her age if you think she can do things that an adult can think again. Just see how Kanna had to keep switching schools often if you paid attention to the anime to name a few. This is the path she thought was suppose to take.

Otherwise go watch something else that doesn't ripple your weak ass sensibilities or go play the fantastic VN as there's also a remake that was released on Oct 1 on Steam, Nintendo Switch, and PS4 so you can better understand her situation and the whole thing that the anime could not and did not cover.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/912450/YUNO_A_girl_who_chants_love_at_the_bound_of_this_world

Really stupid to say that Kanna just wanted a dick. There are people who seek for affection and a sense of being wanted whether they go about it positively or negatively the point it that Kanna seeked it.
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That is very nice way to say that she was just craving for d***. It just seems that she is a slut, but clever enough to get money from this. Enjoy your NTR, because that was not only one from this like it seems. I'm just happy that I didn't watch this.

You sound stupid and stuck in your own little bubble viewpoint. Look at her age if you think she can do things that an adult can think again. Just see how Kanna had to keep switching schools often if you paid attention to the anime to name a few. This is the path she thought was suppose to take.

Otherwise go watch something else that doesn't ripple your weak ass sensibilities or go play the fantastic VN as there's also a remake that was released on Oct 1 on Steam, Nintendo Switch, and PS4 so you can better understand her situation and the whole thing that the anime could not and did not cover.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/912450/YUNO_A_girl_who_chants_love_at_the_bound_of_this_world

Really stupid to say that Kanna just wanted a dick. There are people who seek for affection and a sense of being wanted whether they go about it positively or negatively the point it that Kanna seeked it.


Sorry, I just don't do NTR shit. I'd litterarly shatter my heart. Prostitutes, in general does not matter the reason, just disgust me and she even does not seem like a prostitute just a regular slut.
And stop spamming about her age, you try to tell me that no one literally no one gave her the sens of morality?
I'd not play this game if they don't remove NTR and Kanna's prostitute thing from it and I don't think they did. Which is a shame, because it seems that other (non sexual) threads are nice.

Take for example opposite sex: how does a male could seek an affection? Turn himself into male prostitute? Give me a break. It seems like a bad writing to me at least and NTR/prostitute fetish at best. You could remove this part of her being a slut and have a better game/anime: having her being alone and stay pure while waiting for the one seem more heart-wrenching and even very wholesome than her turning into a slut, which immediately became repulsive (drama intensifies).

It is a warning for everyone to don't watch it and play if you don't want to be disappointed.
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pharo said:
Sorry, I just don't do NTR shit. I'd litterarly shatter my heart. Prostitutes, in general does not matter the reason, just disgust me and she even does not seem like a prostitute just a regular slut.
And stop spamming about her age, you try to tell me that no one literally no one gave her the sens of morality?
I'd not play this game if they don't remove NTR and Kanna's prostitute thing from it and I don't think they did. Which is a shame, because it seems that other (non sexual) threads are nice.

Take for example opposite sex: how does a male could seek an affection? Turn himself into male prostitute? Give me a break. It seems like a bad writing to me at least and NTR/prostitute fetish at best. You could remove this part of her being a slut and have a better game/anime: having her being alone and stay pure while waiting for the one seem more heart-wrenching and even very wholesome than her turning into a slut, which immediately became repulsive (drama intensifies).

It is a warning for everyone to don't watch it and play if you don't want to be disappointed.


There's nothing to apologize about for your opinion. I believe it was stupid and small minded.

I don't think you know what NTR even is... NTR is not prostitution. I dunno where you are getting your idea of what the term means because it is 100% wrong. Kanna has no relationship with anybody thus why she is seeking it. I suggest you look up what NTR even means.

You don't know anything about Kanna's life and I can easily spoil it but you'll see why she made her choices especially if you play the VN let alone the anime touched a bit on it. Just look how she is living. Her room itself reflects her being. You were already told how old she is...

It sounds like you don't know anything about the world at all. For males seeking affection have you seen much anime at all? Much of its stories show exactly what Japanese men do in their society and one of them is going to a place i.e. Red Light District (surely you must of heard of this) and go to those places that cater to lonely men that have females who accompany them and drink and have a good time. Some men want physical contact too and there are places like that. Some may even try going for a High School girl method. There's many scenarios like this in anime and even videos on YouTube for example have these on film on what these men do. Many of these scenarios are captured in anime itself as a small reflection of life and Yu-No is no exception.

Again, these are some examples people do due to their circumstances that is reflected in anime for storytelling.

Here's also another clue. Do you think many people who are homeless are homeless for no reason? Some cannot afford to live in a house for said reasons like greedy evil people who make it impossible for somebody to afford to have a roof over their head. Some are homeless due to being drug addicts, etc, etc. In case you don't know the most vulnerable are females when they are homeless as they can be victims to rape let alone gang rape by other homeless people. So some females MAY have to resort to going into prostitution in order to keep a roof over their head.

And speaking of homelessness if Kanna was a slut as you mark her down as and wanting a dick she could easily ask any men off the street but she doesn't because there's another layer. This on top of her issue and has to continually move all play apart on why she has to do what she thinks she has no choice to do especially since she is no longer living with Takuya's family.

Otherwise, just go watch spongebob so your feelings aren't hurt if anime is too much for you.

Also, Kanna wasn't developed much in the anime as she was in the VN so how could you be attached to her? Maybe you have a thing for women like Kanna and want to put on a cape. Whatever the case is what she needs more is fixing her mind.
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Sorry, I just don't do NTR shit. I'd litterarly shatter my heart. Prostitutes, in general does not matter the reason, just disgust me and she even does not seem like a prostitute just a regular slut.
And stop spamming about her age, you try to tell me that no one literally no one gave her the sens of morality?
I'd not play this game if they don't remove NTR and Kanna's prostitute thing from it and I don't think they did. Which is a shame, because it seems that other (non sexual) threads are nice.

Take for example opposite sex: how does a male could seek an affection? Turn himself into male prostitute? Give me a break. It seems like a bad writing to me at least and NTR/prostitute fetish at best. You could remove this part of her being a slut and have a better game/anime: having her being alone and stay pure while waiting for the one seem more heart-wrenching and even very wholesome than her turning into a slut, which immediately became repulsive (drama intensifies).

It is a warning for everyone to don't watch it and play if you don't want to be disappointed.


There's nothing to apologize about for your opinion. I believe it was stupid and small minded.

I don't think you know what NTR even is... NTR is not prostitution. I dunno where you are getting your idea of what the term means because it is 100% wrong. Kanna has no relationship with anybody thus why she is seeking it. I suggest you look up what NTR even means.

You don't know anything about Kanna's life and I can easily spoil it but you'll see why she made her choices especially if you play the VN let alone the anime touched a bit on it. Just look how she is living. Her room itself reflects her being. You were already told how old she is...

It sounds like you don't know anything about the world at all. For males seeking affection have you seen much anime at all? Much of its stories show exactly what Japanese men do in their society and one of them is going to a place i.e. Red Light District (surely you must of heard of this) and go to those places that cater to lonely men that have females who accompany them and drink and have a good time. Some men want physical contact too and there are places like that. Some may even try going for a High School girl method. There's many scenarios like this in anime and even videos on YouTube for example have these on film on what these men do. Many of these scenarios are captured in anime itself as a small reflection of life and Yu-No is no exception.

Again, these are some examples people do due to their circumstances that is reflected in anime for storytelling.

Here's also another clue. Do you think many people who are homeless are homeless for no reason? Some cannot afford to live in a house for said reasons like greedy evil people who make it impossible for somebody to afford to have a roof over their head. Some are homeless due to being drug addicts, etc, etc. In case you don't know the most vulnerable are females when they are homeless as they can be victims to rape let alone gang rape by other homeless people. So some females MAY have to resort to going into prostitution in order to keep a roof over their head.

And speaking of homelessness if Kanna was a slut as you mark her down as and wanting a dick she could easily ask any men off the street but she doesn't because there's another layer. This on top of her issue and has to continually move all play apart on why she has to do what she thinks she has no choice to do especially since she is no longer living with Takuya's family.

Otherwise, just go watch spongebob so your feelings aren't hurt if anime is too much for you.

Also, Kanna wasn't developed much in the anime as she was in the VN so how could you be attached to her? Maybe you have a thing for women like Kanna and want to put on a cape. Whatever the case is what she needs more is fixing her mind.

Maybe you are just trying to justify behavior of some immoral people for yourself? She could have resolve her issues on hundred other ways, but she retort to being prostitute, which is the easiest and most immoral way of earning moneys. Storytelling in Yu-No would be fine without this, but I guess it is hentai game for some fetishists.
And maybe you need to get out of your bubble and start seeing things as they are and not to try white-knighting women?
I hate those men that use services of such women/girls. So I held both whores and their clients in the same regard.
I know exactly what NTR means (steal someone affection by sleeping with that person). In case of Kanna I used it kind of wrong, but it was like paraphrase for her (and her story) and description for this whole game/anime (I guess there are such themes in this game/anime). I use it in regard to her story because you can have relation with her knowing about her past/present, so it seems very discussing. Or it's fine for people like you... I try not to judge.
It seems that we just watch anime for different reasons. You watch because you like then the world could just degrade people, become immoral when you just have a chance for it and still have a "happy ending". And I want to watch something that can prove me that in the moment of trial, biggest challenge or given impossible choice people can give the best from themselves, be good. Where heroes come in time, love is simple, forever and unconditional and people get what they deserve (just).
I don't wanted this to go ad hominem, but it seems guys like to attack people preferences instead discussing the matter.
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Maybe you are just trying to justify behavior of some immoral people for yourself? She could have resolve her issues on hundred other ways, but she retort to being prostitute, which is the easiest and most immoral way of earning moneys. Storytelling in Yu-No would be fine without this, but I guess it is hentai game for some fetishists.
And maybe you need to get out of your bubble and start seeing things as they are and not to try white-knighting women?
I hate those men that use services of such women/girls. So I held both whores and their clients in the same regard.
I know exactly what NTR means (steal someone affection by sleeping with that person). In case of Kanna I used it kind of wrong, but it was like paraphrase for her (and her story) and description for this whole game/anime (I guess there are such themes in this game/anime). I use it in regard to her story because you can have relation with her knowing about her past/present, so it seems very discussing. Or it's fine for people like you... I try not to judge.
It seems that we just watch anime for different reasons. You watch because you like then the world could just degrade people, become immoral when you just have a chance for it and still have a "happy ending". And I want to watch something that can prove me that in the moment of trial, biggest challenge or given impossible choice people can give the best from themselves, be good. Where heroes come in time, love is simple, forever and unconditional and people get what they deserve (just).
I don't wanted this to go ad hominem, but it seems guys like to attack people preferences instead discussing the matter.


You wouldn't want to be around me cuz I judge people.
Second, this is anime so I do not apply what I do in real life because they are NOT REAL! It's entertainment and a hobby nothing more. I've seen people who root for villains such as in Mirai Nikki knowing their intent and why they were put into their situation it gets tiresome to mix 2D and 3D.

Just like how you didn't know what NTR is you clearly do not know what white knight is either. You are the one bitching about Kanna's behavior not me. I never defended her but because of your weak ass sensibilities has made you not watch the rest of the anime nor interested in checking out the VN I had to explain to you her situation without spoiling the entire thing. You are clearly mixing 2D with 3D.

There's a right way and a wrong way to discuss topics and you've failed on that. Kanna has already made her choices long before the anime even started but here you wanna bitch and pretend you got some high moral values for characters and their motives. Especially if you are trying to get some life lessons from anime I dunno what to even say to that if that's true. So to stop watching because of Kanna's actions is really ridiculous. I'd be fine if you stopped watching because you didn't like the anime but for that... nah.

Also, don't add words to what I never said nor imagine vanity on what you supposedly believe why I watch anime. Keep your delusions to yourself.

Seriously, go watch spongebob or some made for children anime like Pokemon.
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Maybe you are just trying to justify behavior of some immoral people for yourself? She could have resolve her issues on hundred other ways, but she retort to being prostitute, which is the easiest and most immoral way of earning moneys. Storytelling in Yu-No would be fine without this, but I guess it is hentai game for some fetishists.
And maybe you need to get out of your bubble and start seeing things as they are and not to try white-knighting women?
I hate those men that use services of such women/girls. So I held both whores and their clients in the same regard.
I know exactly what NTR means (steal someone affection by sleeping with that person). In case of Kanna I used it kind of wrong, but it was like paraphrase for her (and her story) and description for this whole game/anime (I guess there are such themes in this game/anime). I use it in regard to her story because you can have relation with her knowing about her past/present, so it seems very discussing. Or it's fine for people like you... I try not to judge.
It seems that we just watch anime for different reasons. You watch because you like then the world could just degrade people, become immoral when you just have a chance for it and still have a "happy ending". And I want to watch something that can prove me that in the moment of trial, biggest challenge or given impossible choice people can give the best from themselves, be good. Where heroes come in time, love is simple, forever and unconditional and people get what they deserve (just).
I don't wanted this to go ad hominem, but it seems guys like to attack people preferences instead discussing the matter.


You wouldn't want to be around me cuz I judge people.
Second, this is anime so I do not apply what I do in real life because they are NOT REAL! It's entertainment and a hobby nothing more. I've seen people who root for villains such as in Mirai Nikki knowing their intent and why they were put into their situation it gets tiresome to mix 2D and 3D.

Just like how you didn't know what NTR is you clearly do not know what white knight is either. You are the one bitching about Kanna's behavior not me. I never defended her but because of your weak ass sensibilities has made you not watch the rest of the anime nor interested in checking out the VN I had to explain to you her situation without spoiling the entire thing. You are clearly mixing 2D with 3D.

There's a right way and a wrong way to discuss topics and you've failed on that. Kanna has already made her choices long before the anime even started but here you wanna bitch and pretend you got some high moral values for characters and their motives. Especially if you are trying to get some life lessons from anime I dunno what to even say to that if that's true. So to stop watching because of Kanna's actions is really ridiculous. I'd be fine if you stopped watching because you didn't like the anime but for that... nah.

Also, don't add words to what I never said nor imagine vanity on what you supposedly believe why I watch anime. Keep your delusions to yourself.

Seriously, go watch spongebob or some made for children anime like Pokemon.

Hah, now you are trying to justify not only her but yourself. Attacking peoples and their testes, accuse me of something didn't say and letter accusing me of it yourself...
Yes, I didn't like this anime/game and did not want to watch/play it and the reason is that Kanna is a whore, especially because I thought before she is cute. It disgust me when I think of it (and probably not only me), like for example: her fucking dirty old men... enjoy.
We should agree on disagree and finish it, because discussing ppl preferences leads us nowhere. Aaaand because when I got nothification about this discussion, remembering Yu-No makes me sick (yes, exactly because of Kanna and the rest ntr/rape'y situations).
I will enjoy my spongebob :) thank you for recommendation.
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Hah, now you are trying to justify not only her but yourself. Attacking peoples and their testes, accuse me of something didn't say and letter accusing me of it yourself...
Yes, I didn't like this anime/game and did not want to watch/play it and the reason is that Kanna is a whore, especially because I thought before she is cute. It disgust me when I think of it (and probably not only me), like for example: her fucking dirty old men... enjoy.
We should agree on disagree and finish it, because discussing ppl preferences leads us nowhere. Aaaand because when I got nothification about this discussion, remembering Yu-No makes me sick (yes, exactly because of Kanna and the rest ntr/rape'y situations).
I will enjoy my spongebob :) thank you for recommendation.

So Yu-No makes you sick? lol. One of the best stories in media makes you sick? lol.

I'm starting to see why some are of the opinion that it's a waste of time conversing with people on MAL. Huge waste of time particularly when replying to literal morons and their delusions. It' like you're reading something that is not even there.

What's worse this isn't about Kanna whatsoever as a character in this anime it's about you and your shattered imagination about Kanna being crushed. That and maybe you don't know English very well or you're just very stupid lacking in reading comprehension skills.

Whatever the case, thinking way too much over anime particularly this anime and mixing 2D with 3D seriously, get over yourself. In before you start yet again saying I'm justifying her when I have yet to do such a thing. You're delusional, move on and after crying yourself to sleep over Kanna not fulfilling your vision.

I'm wondering if this is an alternative account you have that would explain a lot. There are cowards on this site who do that pussy-whooped and a fragile ego of being on their main.
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Hah, now you are trying to justify not only her but yourself. Attacking peoples and their testes, accuse me of something didn't say and letter accusing me of it yourself...
Yes, I didn't like this anime/game and did not want to watch/play it and the reason is that Kanna is a whore, especially because I thought before she is cute. It disgust me when I think of it (and probably not only me), like for example: her fucking dirty old men... enjoy.
We should agree on disagree and finish it, because discussing ppl preferences leads us nowhere. Aaaand because when I got nothification about this discussion, remembering Yu-No makes me sick (yes, exactly because of Kanna and the rest ntr/rape'y situations).
I will enjoy my spongebob :) thank you for recommendation.

So Yu-No makes you sick? lol. One of the best stories in media makes you sick? lol.

I'm starting to see why some are of the opinion that it's a waste of time conversing with people on MAL. Huge waste of time particularly when replying to literal morons and their delusions. It' like you're reading something that is not even there.

What's worse this isn't about Kanna whatsoever as a character in this anime it's about you and your shattered imagination about Kanna being crushed. That and maybe you don't know English very well or you're just very stupid lacking in reading comprehension skills.

Whatever the case, thinking way too much over anime particularly this anime and mixing 2D with 3D seriously, get over yourself. In before you start yet again saying I'm justifying her when I have yet to do such a thing. You're delusional, move on and after crying yourself to sleep over Kanna not fulfilling your vision.

I'm wondering if this is an alternative account you have that would explain a lot. There are cowards on this site who do that pussy-whooped and a fragile ego of being on their main.


I'm not a coward and I'm voicing my opinion laud and clear in my own really old account, but I do not use MAL to track progress.

But good f-king God your ego must be humongous. Guess what, not everything you like must be good and made for everyone to like, ok? This f-king YuNo shit is not entertaining for me at all. I'm not buying what you're selling, ok? I tried to tell you that, but yours must be always on top. Screw you.

Yeah, maybe I'm sensitive, faint of heart as some says, not everyone like to immerse yourself into the story, where your daughter/lover ended or is a whore, and/or other rape'y shit is going on everywhere around you.
I wish she wasn't be a prostitute, so there is something wrong with me? Shame, but I'll live with that.
But I f-king dare you to say that I'm mixing 3d and 2d again, I didn't, you did - I tried to distance those two worlds, but you stated that in reality it is like this and like that, guess what it is anime... God. I don't have to deal with the same shit like in reality. Don't try even saying that I do not supposed to self-insert as a MC or any other character, in the game you are making decisions as a MC, you probably want to empathize, because otherwise what is the point?

To sum things up, please stop spamming your shit, because you already proved that you got big ego... we've seen how emotionaly immune you are (or just edgy). Enjoy it yourself and do not project your tastes on others. And yes I wouldn't want you around... I wouldn't even be able to enter the room you are in, because of your ego.
Sorry for my English and again... screw you.
Hope you have good day :)

P.S. Write what you want, meanwhile I will try to forget about this anime and game. It really made me sick. So do you (but different reasons).
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Excellent posts Radle. Thank you.
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This is why I hate what crunchyroll and netflix have done; bring in a lot of younger anime fans who grew up in the participation trophy/safe space generation. They see stuff like yu-no and can't handle when it has a little bit of mature content (mainly concerning females, male rape is still A-OK!)
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Late in this convo xD seems it wad dissolved in mutual disrespect of each others opinion. Anyways, for someone that isnt going to get triggered, the entire Kanna plot, isnt it shown a bit light hearted in the anime? I mean, she sold her mind and body in seek for a human affection, how much lower can you go and yet the anime let it go comedically. It might be my misunderstanding, but it think they could have made an actual plot of they didn't just say "She is a prostitute lol". Thats my opinion, dont know of anyone gets notified still for this post, but i would like to know a more "mature" and "insightful" opinion on the topic. Note:I tried reading most of the other posts, but i got confused half way, sorry.
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I read some idiotic replies here. Absolutely terrible. You know, there are no reasons for making a "high schooler" a whore and have it make sense. Sure, she's 50 years old and crave human contact. Solution? become a whore! or as we do in the normal world, be a wife or a girlfriend. So she has to pay the bills? Sure, become a whore! Or do what regular humans do, get a fucking job, or part time job in this case. You see, ELF just wanted this NTR scenario and they just did a so-so job at explaining it which makes shallow minded sheep swallow it. You know, the guys who just watch and gets dragged by the pace of the show and dont really think too much about what's going on and form their own thoughts around it. There are NEVER and good reason to become a whore in the modern world unless you're forced into it. Unless she wanted it of course, which makes her a cunt and unworthy heroine to pursue for romantic purposes.
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I'm surprised there's no mention the girl legit looks like Lucina.
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how the hell is she 50? damn, this story is weird, read as I misght about the ending and the characters and I still don't get what happened.
This thread was awesome
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her fucking dirty old men...


Those "old" men are actually younger then her, which makes her a dirty old grandma but we get you thought she was younger and underage and you wanted to be a pedo and self insert so you can hook up with her (hence your claims of NTR)

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how the hell is she 50? damn, this story is weird, read as I misght about the ending and the characters and I still don't get what happened.
This thread was awesome


Since its a spoiler thread



and lol at people not actually knowing what "NTR" means
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how the hell is she 50? damn, this story is weird, read as I misght about the ending and the characters and I still don't get what happened.
This thread was awesome


Since its a spoiler thread



and lol at people not actually knowing what "NTR" means

yeah yeah, I understood that but it's weird how she can go to school and look like that when she's 50, why would she even go to school in the first place? It's because of her mom's magic or something that she looks so young?
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I'm surprised there's no mention the girl legit looks like Lucina.


I love Lucina design, and love how similar Kanna looks to her.
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yeah yeah, I understood that but it's weird how she can go to school and look like that when she's 50, why would she even go to school in the first place? It's because of her mom's magic or something that she looks so young?


its from the generic mutations to humans from the "other world" same reason his other daughter aged fast, As her going to school in the first place i just assume its so she doesn't stand out too much
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Catalano said:

yeah yeah, I understood that but it's weird how she can go to school and look like that when she's 50, why would she even go to school in the first place? It's because of her mom's magic or something that she looks so young?


its from the generic mutations to humans from the "other world" same reason his other daughter aged fast, As her going to school in the first place i just assume its so she doesn't stand out too much

ok thanks, makes sense. one of these days I'm going to play the old game to understand what the hell happened in the end and some of the stuff that the anime did not explain well.
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I'm glad I found this thread... many years later. Thanks to the brave one who posted it :)
I won't buy Yu-No remake because of it, and I'm glad I didn't before.

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