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Dec 25, 2018 4:22 PM
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So, a pre-screening was held yesterday and many fans of the series went to watch the first episode of the new season. Well, while the reception for the plot was really good, the same can't be said about the animation quality becuase it was not good at all.

I'm a DAL fan, I've read all the light novels that are out, I know the story, the characters, the plot, the important events that are about to happen in this seaosn and I really, and I mean REALLY hate the idea of a badly animated season 3 when such important events are about to take place. Somebody needs to stop them, they must delay this, of course there is no PV, becuase it was that bad. If it's going to be like this, I'd rather never have this season.
Dec 25, 2018 4:23 PM
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>J.C.Staff

there is the reason for bad animation quality, that studio is overloaded with work already so expect tight or bad production schedule leading to rushing the animators to draw frames
Dec 25, 2018 4:27 PM
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I know but still, why even broadcast something that is not finished. Is this new season just doomed to fail, that's it? They announced this new season more than a year ago and they had plenty of time. Sounds to me that they didn't even care to begin with and just threw some animators there while most of them worked on things like One Punch Man II, Index III, Railgun III, Accelerator etc. Those have PV and DAL III is coming in less than 20 days and still, nothing, no PV.
Dec 25, 2018 4:46 PM
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reading all the novels doesnt make you a fan - buying the merch to support the series does.
if you don't, you are just a leecher who is neither helping the anime company nor the original author. in short - if you dont buy merch, you really are not a fan. by the way, this is not directed at op in particular, but to anyone who claims to be a "fan" or a "huge fan" but dont spend a dime to support the original creator or the anime company.

on topic: there was already concerns with regards to quality given the key visuals.
JC staff seems to be overworked and need more time to polish the animation.

edit @Plantz oh please. spending $10 on a single volume to show support to the author of a series you claim to be a fan of is hardly going to break the bank. its ok if you dont buy merch, that just means you arent a fan - since you dont think their product is worth your money.

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my rant doesnt apply to OP because he or she actually help the creators.
if you do not contribute to the medium's continued success or dont intend on making such a contribution, you are not a fan. at best, you are just someone who likes the show somewhat. at worst, you are just an entitled pirate who wont spend a dime to support the author, even though you do have the financial means to do it.
"im a fan. i just like to get everything that they offer, all their hard work for free!"
the more i use this site, the more i realize how entitled people here are. i dont care for DaL and couldnt care less about a drop in quality. im not a fan, even though i might like one thing or two about it.
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Dec 25, 2018 5:22 PM
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Off-topic: Don't really know why you jumped to conclusions but I do have some merch. Don't be too hasty.

On-topic: JC Staff is overworked but they don't really care much about the series apparently since the new season was announced over a year ago. The japanese audience concerned about the quality of the episode make it seem like it's not bad, but really bad if I make myself clear. Out of every key visual that they've done, DAL III has the laziest feel to it, along with copy/pasted faces.
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Dec 25, 2018 5:54 PM
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DreamingBeats said:
reading all the novels doesnt make you a fan - buying the merch to support the series does.
if you don't, you are just a leecher who is neither helping the anime company nor the original author. in short - if you dont buy merch, you really are not a fan. by the way, this is not directed at op in particular, but to anyone who claims to be a "fan" or a "huge fan" but dont spend a dime to support the original creator or the anime company.

on topic: there was already concerns with regards to quality given the key visuals.
JC staff seems to be overworked and need more time to polish the animation.
Ah yes, lets shame everyone who can't afford or doesn't have the means to purchase merch and tell them they're not "real fans." That'll sure help things along. JC Staff have just taken on too many projects in a too short amount of time. My guess would be that they're focusing most of their effort on OPM 2 since that's the anime everyone has the highest expectations for. They should have spread these projects out a lot more over the next 3-4 years instead of trying to cram them all in now. The tight schedule really shows with Index III's abysmal quality so I'm not getting my hopes up that this will be any better.

@DreamingBeats That's the dumbest fucking argument I've ever heard. I honestly can't tell if you're trolling. And yes, for some people $10 does break the bank. It must be nice living in whatever fantasy world you're from.
PlantzDec 25, 2018 7:09 PM
Dec 25, 2018 8:33 PM
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All the waiting just for Date A Live III to be Doomed? This is just Heart Breaking, too bad Production IMS went bankrupt
DelusionalUzumeDec 25, 2018 8:40 PM
just because I’ve gotten weaker, doesn’t mean that you got stronger, does it?
Dec 26, 2018 3:27 AM
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Don't care that much about animation, I'm not so sensitive about that

ALso, most of the time when people say "bad animation" they actually mean that it is average animation. Some people claim that Black Clover has bad animation, but it looks fine for me. Anime with bad animation are extremely rare these days, it is either average or good animation.



Dec 26, 2018 3:32 AM
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You can tell the quality of the anime by the promotional art.


Dec 26, 2018 9:39 PM
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poor a1 production,they make season 1 more better
Dec 26, 2018 9:58 PM
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This is just sad i don't like bad animation
Dec 27, 2018 12:08 AM

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I hope this animation is not that bad, I'm scared :(
Dec 27, 2018 3:09 AM

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Judging from the pv i can say that the new season looks extremly bad especially compared to the first 2 seasons which looked pretty good
Dec 27, 2018 3:16 AM

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feitohan said:
poor a1 production,they make season 1 more better

FYI: Date a Live Season 1 was animated by AIC+Plus not A1 Pictures
Dec 27, 2018 4:24 AM

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mmmh it's not that bad, let's wait
Dec 27, 2018 4:31 AM

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A new PV came out today

It is not bad at all in my opinion. it looks fine for me

Akerakai said:
Judging from the pv i can say that the new season looks extremly bad especially compared to the first 2 seasons which looked pretty good


Did you say extremely bad ?!

I don't see big difference between this and the previous two season, and it is obviously does not look bad (let alone extremely bad that you claim). it looks average to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=41&v=iz_sAWpBNrI

thepathDec 27, 2018 4:35 AM
Dec 27, 2018 4:45 AM

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thepath said:
A new PV came out today

It is not bad at all in my opinion. it looks fine for me

Akerakai said:
Judging from the pv i can say that the new season looks extremly bad especially compared to the first 2 seasons which looked pretty good


Did you say extremely bad ?!

I don't see big difference between this and the previous two season, and it is obviously does not look bad (let alone extremely bad that you claim). it looks average to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=41&v=iz_sAWpBNrI

yeah as i said it looks pretty bad
Especially compared to the first 2 seasons
Dec 27, 2018 5:13 AM
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my minimal tolerance to animation is "don't make animation like Ore ga Suki nano wa Imouto dakedo Imouto ja Nai". as long as the animation is not more than it, i will accept DaL III this season. the character design is well well, you will see weird part if you mind about the detail but average "still in the range of light novel illustration", but it will be different matter if later they make it like DxD season 4. that is the worst moment
Dec 27, 2018 5:18 AM

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Rizki_Diablo said:
my minimal tolerance to animation is "don't make animation like Ore ga Suki nano wa Imouto dakedo Imouto ja Nai". as long as the animation is not more than it, i will accept DaL III this season. the character design is well well, you will see weird part if you mind about the detail but average "still in the range of light novel illustration", but it will be different matter if later they make it like DxD season 4. that is the worst moment
the funny part is that while watching the pv i couldn't stop myself from thinking that the new artstyle for the characters is kind of similar to the one of my sister my writer lol
Dec 27, 2018 5:38 AM
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DreamingBeats said:
reading all the novels doesnt make you a fan - buying the merch to support the series does.
if you don't, you are just a leecher who is neither helping the anime company nor the original author. in short - if you dont buy merch, you really are not a fan. by the way, this is not directed at op in particular, but to anyone who claims to be a "fan" or a "huge fan" but dont spend a dime to support the original creator or the anime company.

on topic: there was already concerns with regards to quality given the key visuals.
JC staff seems to be overworked and need more time to polish the animation.

edit @Plantz oh please. spending $10 on a single volume to show support to the author of a series you claim to be a fan of is hardly going to break the bank. its ok if you dont buy merch, that just means you arent a fan - since you dont think their product is worth your money.


Look at this elitist bullshit right here hahaha. Who are you to decide whether someone is a fan of something or not? Fuck off dude with your gatekeeping bullshit
Dec 27, 2018 8:08 AM

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Miku looks fine. It is not like I going to pause anime just to look at someone face in one or two frames. Most of the time, I don't notice these stuff when I watch anime anyway (even if I did, it does not look bad anyway. Ore ga Suki nano wa Imouto dakedo Imouto ja Nai looks much worse and that did not stop me from enjoying anime).



Dec 27, 2018 8:52 AM

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Watched the PV. Thought that worse than Index 3 and J.C. can't make anything worse, well i'm bashing always Index cause i want it to be great/at least good. And i think that it is for invidiual scenes, something like that. But that might've been already on par or worse with 1 cour of Index, just the PV ... Pretty sad.
Dec 27, 2018 1:35 PM

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Jeez, the PV shows a massive quality drop from the first two seasons, but it is still passable at least (other than Miku: what the hell happened to her?). Hopefully it's a bit better once the show actually airs, but if it looks as it does now I can still live with it, as it's more about the characters for me with this show anyway (though if there are more battles they better up their game for those at least).
Dec 27, 2018 4:17 PM
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Akerakai said:
Rizki_Diablo said:
my minimal tolerance to animation is "don't make animation like Ore ga Suki nano wa Imouto dakedo Imouto ja Nai". as long as the animation is not more than it, i will accept DaL III this season. the character design is well well, you will see weird part if you mind about the detail but average "still in the range of light novel illustration", but it will be different matter if later they make it like DxD season 4. that is the worst moment
the funny part is that while watching the pv i couldn't stop myself from thinking that the new artstyle for the characters is kind of similar to the one of my sister my writer lol

no, that anime you mention is more worst than date a live III because they even change basic original illustration of character design and the worst thing is the blue-ray version fix tv version. what kind of joke is that?
Dec 27, 2018 8:54 PM

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Rizki_Diablo said:
Akerakai said:
the funny part is that while watching the pv i couldn't stop myself from thinking that the new artstyle for the characters is kind of similar to the one of my sister my writer lol

no, that anime you mention is more worst than date a live III because they even change basic original illustration of character design and the worst thing is the blue-ray version fix tv version. what kind of joke is that?
where did i say that the production quality is as bad as my writer my sister?
All i said is that the new "art style" is similar
Dec 27, 2018 9:26 PM
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Just give out some example from the previous season to show how bad the art style is.

First is Yoshino


Next is Miku


Some of my friend even said that the art style were looked like recent hentai they watched.
Clearly this "art style" is not fit Date a Live at all.
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I knew it was going to be bad when I seen that rushed art JC Staff revealed. I might skip this.


Dec 27, 2018 11:05 PM
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Rizki_Diablo said:
Akerakai said:
the funny part is that while watching the pv i couldn't stop myself from thinking that the new artstyle for the characters is kind of similar to the one of my sister my writer lol

no, that anime you mention is more worst than date a live III because they even change basic original illustration of character design and the worst thing is the blue-ray version fix tv version. what kind of joke is that?



??? Blurays version are normally always a fixed/improved version then then the tv version it's nothing new.

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on154288 said:
Just give out some example from the previous season to show how bad the art style is.

First is Yoshino


Next is Miku


Some of my friend even said that the art style were looked like recent hentai they watched.
Clearly this "art style" is not fit Date a Live at all.



3 seasons, 3 different studios and art styles
Dec 28, 2018 3:16 AM

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After seeing the PV I'm planning on not watching this, I'd rather have no S3 than them butchering this, Toaru III's already at a horrible pace, I don't want another one on my plate.
Dec 28, 2018 4:43 AM

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While i agree that the art quality definitely dropped comparing to the other 2 seasons, this shit is still pretty much bearable to me, i can deal with this art style any day ez. I've seen worse. But i've seen MUCH better too. But it's nothing that will push me away from having a great experience with it. Many people had that problem with DxD Hero and ended up liking the series, and at first the art style didn't really fit my liking but i just managed to adapt to it and let it go and focus on the story at hand. If you wanna drop the anime just because of its poor art quality (wich i think it's not super fucking terrible) right away by all means do it. We can do nothing but wait for each episode to come out now.
Dec 28, 2018 5:14 AM

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WaterLord said:
While i agree that the art quality definitely dropped comparing to the other 2 seasons, this shit is still pretty much bearable to me, i can deal with this art style any day ez. I've seen worse. But i've seen MUCH better too. But it's nothing that will push me away from having a great experience with it. Many people had that problem with DxD Hero and ended up liking the series, and at first the art style didn't really fit my liking but i just managed to adapt to it and let it go and focus on the story at hand. If you wanna drop the anime just because of its poor art quality (wich i think it's not super fucking terrible) right away by all means do it. We can do nothing but wait for each episode to come out now.

I completely agree!
Dec 28, 2018 8:23 AM

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The animation quality and art quality (not talking about my opinion toward the new artstyle) of dxd hero are way better than what is shown in this trailer
Dec 28, 2018 9:45 AM

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Akerakai said:
The animation quality and art quality (not talking about my opinion toward the new artstyle) of dxd hero are way better than what is shown in this trailer
Yes, i agree with you. I was just giving that example because DxD also changed their character designs significantly too. But yes, it doesn't compare to this trailer.
Dec 28, 2018 10:21 AM

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SS1 art styles is the best for DAL.
Dec 28, 2018 4:50 PM

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AlucardNoYuuutsu said:
WaterLord said:
While i agree that the art quality definitely dropped comparing to the other 2 seasons, this shit is still pretty much bearable to me, i can deal with this art style any day ez. I've seen worse. But i've seen MUCH better too. But it's nothing that will push me away from having a great experience with it. Many people had that problem with DxD Hero and ended up liking the series, and at first the art style didn't really fit my liking but i just managed to adapt to it and let it go and focus on the story at hand. If you wanna drop the anime just because of its poor art quality (wich i think it's not super fucking terrible) right away by all means do it. We can do nothing but wait for each episode to come out now.

I completely agree!

I think Kemono Friends has proved that an interesting story can compensate for questionable art.
Dec 29, 2018 7:59 PM

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- C'mon man!!! You guys just judging a studio that overworked by lot of your favorited anime that you dont even paid for them (even buy their merch even 1 or 2 merch's ... or even buy the BD/DVD) and then you wish the TV version would be better of the BD version the previos Season?
- one more, that was just 2 minutes PV....
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Dec 30, 2018 7:07 AM

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bondtux said:
- C'mon man!!! You guys just judging a studio that overworked by lot of your favorited anime that you dont even paid for them (even buy their merch even 1 or 2 merch's ... or even buy the BD/DVD) and then you wish the TV version would be better of the BD version the previos Season?
- one more, that was just 2 minutes PV....
bad is bad and the reasons don't matter and usually they don't put the ugliest scenes in the pv
Dec 30, 2018 7:26 AM

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bondtux said:
- C'mon man!!! You guys just judging a studio that overworked by lot of your favorited anime that you dont even paid for them (even buy their merch even 1 or 2 merch's ... or even buy the BD/DVD) and then you wish the TV version would be better of the BD version the previos Season?
- one more, that was just 2 minutes PV....


I actually did support this anime a little for the first 2 seasons.


Dec 30, 2018 7:35 AM
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To be honest I really do not care about animation, and this applies to everything I've watched. Unless the art style is obscure, then I'm probably going to enjoy the show anyways.
Dec 30, 2018 9:59 AM
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Sucks to hear this season is not gonna be up to snuff in terms of animation. From what I've seen it really does look horrendous.

Might as well hold off until the BD's fix it and make it watchable tbh.
Dec 30, 2018 6:38 PM

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J.C. Staff is really going all out with the shitty animation. This is getting annoying now, I'm loosing hope. Most of the big studios are downgrading their quality lately, Pierrot has the gold medal tho. The silver is for Mad House I think and JC the bronce.
Jan 4, 2019 9:14 PM
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DreamingBeats said:
reading all the novels doesnt make you a fan - buying the merch to support the series does.
if you don't, you are just a leecher who is neither helping the anime company nor the original author. in short - if you dont buy merch, you really are not a fan. by the way, this is not directed at op in particular, but to anyone who claims to be a "fan" or a "huge fan" but dont spend a dime to support the original creator or the anime company.

on topic: there was already concerns with regards to quality given the key visuals.
JC staff seems to be overworked and need more time to polish the animation.

edit @Plantz oh please. spending $10 on a single volume to show support to the author of a series you claim to be a fan of is hardly going to break the bank. its ok if you dont buy merch, that just means you arent a fan - since you dont think their product is worth your money.

Just wanted to say, theres a reason these things called libraries exist you know.
Jan 10, 2019 1:24 AM
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Those Yoshino & Miku pics, yes art style looks harsher, but still clean lines, ok proportions & watchable.
For truly ugly line drawings look at recent Wotakoi, Super Lovers, Gonzo's Akibastrip/18if/Kakuriyo. But all these mentioned were watchable for characters & plot.
I don't remember much from AIC & IMS DALs, but I recall their battle animation was consistently so disappointing I unconsciously equate DAL = lazy animation (only saw TV version tho, BD might be better). In contrast, the art & designs were in general good.
I Haven't seen JC's pv yet.
Jan 10, 2019 2:24 AM

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i dont think the animation and anime is bad at all, i have already put alot of money in buying stuff, read the light novel and so on, it just sucks that the company went bankrupt if i was rich i would give almost all my money to them

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