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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Thought this episode was kinda entertaining with the buildup from the first half and led to the fighting in the latter half. Between this and some of the episodes, this did feel like a penultimate episode. The battlefield is filled with fire and ruins. Saniwa seemed to be a bit burnt out though by his abilities. |
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| One thousand. Will they be able to handle it on their own? Looks like Kunihiro is serious about saving his former master. |
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| Kunihiro better not mess things ups -_- I kinda feel like we are gonna see people die from both units though....Especially since not everyone from Unit 1 is even here |
| Kunihiro is acting really irrational. He's risking history just to save his former master. The way the First Unit came in was very cool. One thousand of the Time Retrograde Army. Let's see if they can handle it. |
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| Kunihiro? What's he doing teaming with Hijikata?? Hope he doesn't do anything reckless :/ A thousand of the Time Retrograde Army? That's insane! Can they do it?? :o But I believe in them! Can't believe it's almost over. 1 more episode left... :( |
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| But... Mikazuki ain't here. ;_; |
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Xeogran said: But... Mikazuki ain't here. ;_; AND NEITHER IS HONEBAMI I feel like ( or at least I HOPE ) they left them out for a reason. Why those two specifically? I hope they get a grand entrance in the next episode and help out or else I'm going to be highly disappointed. Can't just close off the series with the last two members of the first unit missing. |
| Hmm, that was actually decent and I kinda have hopes for the final, so let's see how it will play out. |
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| Ugh, this episode was by far one of the worst-or the worst. Kane-san's and Hori's encounter at the beginning had the most anticlimactic drop that could've been handled a lot differently (and better, to say the least). Not to mention the incorrect references to the game mechanics; you cannot bring troops in once you've entered a map. Time pressure? What's that? Also, Hori suddenly joining Hijikata with no mention of how/why, making it such a confusing plot hole knowing Hijikata hardly trusted anyone. And alsooo, it's OOC to see Kane-san and Mutsu cooperating as they completely despise eachother;-and Kane-san's uptightness. Overall, a terrible episode with no plot coherence and many holes without proper development. Nice job, Ufotable. Ruining Tales of Zestiria, and now Touken Ranbu. (Also, the fueling of Mutsu x Kane-san is cringe-worthy, bye.) |
MikazukiRanbu said: I'm guessing because Honebani was new to the First Unit and Mikazuki isn't there just because.Xeogran said: But... Mikazuki ain't here. ;_; AND NEITHER IS HONEBAMI I feel like ( or at least I HOPE ) they left them out for a reason. Why those two specifically? I hope they get a grand entrance in the next episode and help out or else I'm going to be highly disappointed. Can't just close off the series with the last two members of the first unit missing. Or Saniwa didn't have enough time/energy to do so anyway. Which in itself is a copout, but I guess they don't want to focus on the first unit so much where it overshadows the conflict with the second? |
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MikazukiRanbu said: Xeogran said: But... Mikazuki ain't here. ;_; AND NEITHER IS HONEBAMI I feel like ( or at least I HOPE ) they left them out for a reason. Why those two specifically? I hope they get a grand entrance in the next episode and help out or else I'm going to be highly disappointed. Can't just close off the series with the last two members of the first unit missing. Honestly, how dare they introduce Unit 1 but neglect Mikazuki? He best be in the finale (and for more than just a few seconds hmph!) |
| This episode again demonstrates what Ufotable has done so brilliantly in this anime and the other series they do...and that is stunning action sequences with beautiful animation. The plot has really taken a step up as well over the last few episodes I'm glad to see the first unit back in action...but I'm disappointed that Mikazuki isn't with them (he's my favorite character in the anime despite his limited screen time) I hope Kane is able to convince Horikawa to come back to his side... The next episode should be an action packed thriller with an emotional ending and I can't wait! |
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| First Unit and Second Unit fighting together. That was awesome. And what the hell, Kunihiro? :o What. The next one will be the last!??! I thought this anime's gonna be 2-cour or more. Goshdarnit. A thousand Time Retrogade Army troops? What the heck. Good luck, everyone! I bet the last episode will be amazing. |
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miyako1909 said: TheAwkward-Otaku said: Ugh, this episode was by far one of the worst-or the worst. Kane-san's and Hori's encounter at the beginning had the most anticlimactic drop that could've been handled a lot differently (and better, to say the least). Not to mention the incorrect references to the game mechanics; you cannot bring troops in once you've entered a map. Time pressure? What's that? Also, Hori suddenly joining Hijikata with no mention of how/why, making it such a confusing plot hole knowing Hijikata hardly trusted anyone. And alsooo, it's OOC to see Kane-san and Mutsu cooperating as they completely despise eachother;-and Kane-san's uptightness. Overall, a terrible episode with no plot coherence and many holes without proper development. Nice job, Ufotable. Ruining Tales of Zestiria, and now Touken Ranbu. (Also, the fueling of Mutsu x Kane-san is cringe-worthy, bye.) Your complaint about game mechanics is late. They throw that out of the window since episode 1, Saniwa did the same summoning in ep 1 and the ep Tsurumaru debut, Tsurumaru and Tonbokiri fight well in night battles, etc. And the thing with Horikawa, they may explain it next episode. One theory is that Horikawa joined Hijikata when the Shinsengumi was recruiting for the battle. At that time, Shinshengumi's number was only a few dozen, some were dead, some left the Shisengumi, and they needed more men. The trust issue you said is irrelevant since Hijikata was in a hopeless battle. About Mutsunokami and Izuminokami, they disliked each other on the early episodes but after the fights and belong in the same unit , they learn to get along, that is called character development and with the situation, there is no place for their rivalry anyway. By the way, from their in-game lines I never see that they hated each other to the point of unable to cooperate. The one seems to hate Mutsunokami is Nagasone. You maybe are confusing with your head-canon. Given it was episode one, a lot of things were left unclarified. Tsurumaru's debut was for the sake of the plot development and the summoning was completely unnecessary regarding THIS episode. Even so, Horikawa could easily be an enemy spy to kill him; an untrustworthy ally that Hijikata knew nothing about. Even so, it's not my "head-canon" when they've been confirmed that those two clash with each other and are very difficult to cooperate with each other. Not to mention, they compete despite being on equal teams. It's not "character-development" if it's OOC, Kane-san's uptightness is as an example. (He's more of a dork than anything). And, alsoooo, Kane-san's OOC when he even raised a blade towards Hori. (The two are known to be quite close, and I doubt Kane-san would even attempt to do such a thing for the sake of his own pride). Nagasone does have some resentment towards Mustu, but that doesn't disperse the fact that him and Kane-san remain with their hatred towards each other. If they added in their normal rude remarks and occasional incooperation more often for the two, it would've been better. As a said; nice job, Ufotable. Ruining Tales of Zestiria, and now Touken Ranbu. |
Tonbo_213 said: TheAwkward-Otaku said: Given it was episode one, a lot of things were left unclarified. Tsurumaru's debut was for the sake of the plot development and the summoning was completely unnecessary regarding THIS episode. Even so, Horikawa could easily be an enemy spy to kill him; an untrustworthy ally that Hijikata knew nothing about. Even so, it's not my "head-canon" when they've been confirmed that those two clash with each other and are very difficult to cooperate with each other. Not to mention, they compete despite being on equal teams. It's not "character-development" if it's OOC, Kane-san's uptightness is as an example. (He's more of a dork than anything). And, alsoooo, Kane-san's OOC when he even raised a blade towards Hori. (The two are known to be quite close, and I doubt Kane-san would even attempt to do such a thing for the sake of his own pride). Nagasone does have some resentment towards Mustu, but that doesn't disperse the fact that him and Kane-san remain with their hatred towards each other. If they added in their normal rude remarks and occasional incooperation more often for the two, it would've been better. As a said; nice job, Ufotable. Ruining Tales of Zestiria, and now Touken Ranbu. Occational incooperation, ya say? Have you watched episode 3 of this series? The first 3 series show that Mutsunokami (and Yagen) didn't trust Izuminokami much Another thing, if you say that most the game references are thrown off the window, I say that it's not a big deal since the series is adapted from a game WITHOUT a plot and only focuses on grinding skills of players I'm quite aware of the first 3 episodes. I was regarding to the remaining episodes afterwards, not the sudden cooperation, (which, in fact doesn't fit their characters). Kane-san and Mutsu are known to be uncooperative, even in situations where they must work together. It is a big deal, given it's an adaptation, which would've been better if they had followed the original game mechanics, ya know? The game does have a slight plot, given each individual character is an anthropomorphized historical, Japanese sword, which in each have their own histories. |
miyako1909 said: TheAwkward-Otaku said: Given it was episode one, a lot of things were left unclarified. Tsurumaru's debut was for the sake of the plot development and the summoning was completely unnecessary regarding THIS episode. Even so, Horikawa could easily be an enemy spy to kill him; an untrustworthy ally that Hijikata knew nothing about. Even so, it's not my "head-canon" when they've been confirmed that those two clash with each other and are very difficult to cooperate with each other. Not to mention, they compete despite being on equal teams. It's not "character-development" if it's OOC, Kane-san's uptightness is as an example. (He's more of a dork than anything). And, alsoooo, Kane-san's OOC when he even raised a blade towards Hori. (The two are known to be quite close, and I doubt Kane-san would even attempt to do such a thing for the sake of his own pride). Nagasone does have some resentment towards Mustu, but that doesn't disperse the fact that him and Kane-san remain with their hatred towards each other. If they added in their normal rude remarks and occasional incooperation more often for the two, it would've been better. As a said; nice job, Ufotable. Ruining Tales of Zestiria, and now Touken Ranbu. The summoning was necessary in this as they needed more members. This is episode 12 already, game mechanics don't mean a thing. And can you show me the source where they confirmed Mutsunokami and Izuminokami hate each other to the bone? All I have is their sparring lines. From the game lines, you cannot grasp their entirely character. Izuminokami raised his sword against Horikawa mirrored Hijikata raise his sword against his friend. Izuminokami's personality was based on Hijikata so that is not OCC. He is the captain here so he has to be uptight to fulfill his Master's expectation, he cannot be his usual self. And as I said, the Shinsengumi was mass-recruiting , did they even have the time to do background check? Sending spy to a losing army is an idiotic move. The spy could have been killed in the crossfire. Hijikata knew that he was gonna die soon so why would he care about that? If Ufotable wanted to make a good adaptation, they should've stuck to the game mechanics, honestly. Watch Hanamaru, and you'll see the tension between the two. They don't get along throughout the entirety of the anime, correctly portraying their relationship. Sure, you can't fully understand their personalities from the game lines, but that's why there's Hanamaru. A correctly adaption of each character's personalities. Even so, Kane-san wasn't exactly created like Hijikata. The only thing I saw correct from that scene was Hori. He'd go to such extents given how much he cares about Kane-san; they're partners, after all. I understand that, but even in the moments at the citadel, and at the beginning of the anime, his character was still the same. (Despite the fact that Mutsu's character was adapted perfectly, and was still partially his normal self, even in battles). Still a plot hole with almost no reasons given for it. This is what happens when I decide to give my opinion on this damn website. |
| It would be nice if they showed us some teamwork between the First and Second Units. One thousand men? That's gonna be quite a challenge. |
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| Can't believe this is going the same route as Hanamaru, with the sword interfering with his previous master, although this time less haphazardly. And of course it's another Shinsengumi member. I personally could care less for all that and would rather just see them fight and some characters enter "awakening" mode or whatever. I'm happy Yamanbagiri is back at least~~ |
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| Team 1 and 2 hybrid was really cool. Hopefully Kunihiro doesn't do anything extreme. |
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miyako1909 said: TheAwkward-Otaku said: If Ufotable wanted to make a good adaptation, they should've stuck to the game mechanics, honestly. Watch Hanamaru, and you'll see the tension between the two. They don't get along throughout the entirety of the anime, correctly portraying their relationship. Sure, you can't fully understand their personalities from the game lines, but that's why there's Hanamaru. A correctly adaption of each character's personalities. Even so, Kane-san wasn't exactly created like Hijikata. The only thing I saw correct from that scene was Hori. He'd go to such extents given how much he cares about Kane-san; they're partners, after all. I understand that, but even in the moments at the citadel, and at the beginning of the anime, his character was still the same. (Despite the fact that Mutsu's character was adapted perfectly, and was still partially his normal self, even in battles). Still a plot hole with almost no reasons given for it. This is what happens when I decide to give my opinion on this damn website. Both Hanamaru and Katsugeki are adaptions. You cannot bring Hanamaru as a source for information. In that case, many people said that Yamatonokami' personality in Hanamaru is OCC. Hanamaru is not more correct than Katsugeki. They are the same. If it is not directly from Nitro+ then I won't count it as canon. Well, you are too stubborn and immature to be able to hold a serious conversation I won't argue with you anymore. And this is what happens when I try talking sense to teenager. Hanamaru is closest to actual character's personalities, taking into account the in-game lines. Sure, Yasu is slightly OOC, given he's more serious, and a lot saltier. Despite this, Hanamaru gave a more correct representation of everyone's character with a reliable basis. Katsugeki is a more serious anime, while Hanamaru is a slice-of-life, bringing in each sword's personalities more vividly. Once again, if you take a look at the Wiki's of Touken Ranbu, you'll see Hanamaru represents them quite well. If you consider someone with a differing opinion than you, that makes you upset; immature; that in itself is immature. I gave my basis, evidence, and reasoning for my arguments. I believe I'm quite well with holding an argument, the difference is if you're content with my opposing beliefs, and simply giving up because I cannot comply with yours. This is what happens when you upset someone with a different opinion and they decided to give up. :) |
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| The team-up of the First Unit with the Second Unit was awesome! oh man! Kinihiro really joined-up with Hijikata! OMG 1,000 Retrogade Army troops! 4/5. |
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| 1000 troops plus Kunihiro....that idiot. |
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