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Feb 19, 2010 6:31 AM
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Mar 2, 2010 5:11 AM
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for Usui to not want to have a lover's relationship with Misaki maybe for something happened in the past .... he love her but don't want that and he actually can do what ever he wants even if they don't have that kind of relationship... I'm a bit confused :S

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Mar 2, 2010 8:08 AM
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I don't understand it either. In my opinion most of the time they do behave like a couple, and if one of them says that it's otherwise it should be Misaki, since she's not so open when it comes to showing her true feelings. But Usui saying they not in this kind of relationship... he's the one who started it! The way he said it, it looks as if he's only playing with her... really annoying :/
Mar 2, 2010 11:16 AM
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I can't understand Usui. :/
Mar 2, 2010 1:20 PM
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Enought with Usui, I don't even want to try understanding what the mangaka tries to do with that characer anymore.
Funny moments, sweet moments, weird moments (what the f**k was Sakura doing to Misaki?) and yet another guy with some weird complex. Well, at least we know Kuuga's problem will be pretty much explained in next chapter; or in 2 chapters at most.
Mar 2, 2010 1:50 PM
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Chibi face Usui wearing the hat XD

But agree, really not sure what kind of relationship Usui thinks he's in with Misaki then, if not a couple...
Mar 2, 2010 1:54 PM
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Yeah Usui is very confusing sometimes. X____X
But but but I hope Sakura and Kuuga understand each other and get together in the end of this arc. :)


Mar 2, 2010 8:39 PM
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It seemed kinda short.. unless i read it fast...

Its kinda depressing waiting a entire month for a new chapter and stuff... but still

Usui.. i dont get him.... either he likes her or not... MAKE A MOVE!
They both OBVIOUSLY like each other, but they wont be a couple.. its confusing... XP
Mar 3, 2010 8:20 AM
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I kind of understand why Usui doesn't want to be in a relationship with Misaki.

Great chapter, Usui wearing a hat pwned me! :D
Mar 3, 2010 2:17 PM

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I started to feel irritated with Misaki in the latest chapters... she is too forceful and always wearing that angry look on her face like nothing is satisfieing for her...well, whatever...

Usui've said already that before, right?
Mar 3, 2010 10:28 PM

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The worst of the chapter? That damned guy.... Can't he simply shut the trap and enjoy the trip his wannabe girlfriend wanted to give him as a b-day present??? Okay I understand he doesn't feel comfortable at all around of Misaki nor Usui, thing that I don't mind, what I actually dislike of hm is being that noisy and whining oer such nonesense... bah...

Whatever... Anything else, the chappie was really awesome.. Loved the interaction of the characs...Although the Misaki + usui relatinship got weird, I like where this is going... it's not the classic all dandy-type of relationship... it's more of the Oh gosh some bad stuff has happened to us but we're still together and we're still happy after all the problems we had had.... I know it looks like he doesn't want a thing with Misaki now... but it's actually for a good reason... he wants to protect her from the "darkest" things inside his family... I wouldn't expose the narcotic side of my family... if it were the case... I'd try to cover it the most I can... not to simply show it and scare the girl... And Even more f I were with someone like Misaki... I'd try harder...

LOL at Usui and the hat... Man that hat plus Usui really reminded me of Urahara Kisuke from Bleach... dunno... but he looked like Urahara a lor... and wearing that Yukata... man that was so weird and funny at the same time

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Mar 7, 2010 6:54 PM

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Confusing of course.
Mar 7, 2010 7:40 PM

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I feel like this manga isn't going anywhere. The author is just trying to stretch it out with the typical contrived "are they or aren't they together" shoujo drama. I don't even really know what the story is anymore :/

Also, Kuuga is an insufferable brat. Sakura needs to dump his ass.
May 5, 2010 3:31 AM

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Usui with the hat is cute. :) But wonder why he doesn't want a relationship with Misaki.

Also Kuuga, you brat. T__T
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May 30, 2010 4:34 AM

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fuu, yeah sometimes i think he's just playing around with her which pisses me off
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i wonder what "precious little time" meant :-" :O :O
Jul 6, 2010 8:15 PM

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Kuuga-kun's scowl was so cute!
--i wonder what he's thinking...? did he want Sakura all to himself?

and Usui-kun's thoughts are really troubling, as well..... they should definitely be a couple already!!
Feb 26, 2012 5:43 PM

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what was Sakura doing to Misaki in the bath? O.o
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Lol it looks like they're lost.
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Hum...
Well, Usui being Usui, first, it's good to see that their relationship has improved, but still, they hold clear everything soo.
And then, this second couple, it's obvious that he "doesn't likes" that she ins't natural around him.
Anyways, the important question is, What was Sakura doing to Misikai in the hot spring?

What she meant by misaki don't using "that" properly? What was that?
Jan 22, 2015 10:26 AM

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Well, the two duo got inversed, so I guess it's time to dot the i. Kuuga have jealousy crisis and Sakura is feeling worthless because of Kuuga attitudes. Welp, I think that Sakura had a bad idea with these tickets x)
Sakura also noticed that Misaka is way more natural than before with Usui and that they look like a better couple than her with Kuuga...
It was also hilarious when Misaka was running after Kuuga while screaming : ''Come back, you piece of shit!!'' xD

Anyway, it's time to solve that problem shoujo style, with some speech on love and on Sakura will to get closer to him.
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Ok, I’m not understanding what people in this thread are confused about. Maybe this thread didn’t age well? Idk, I understood exactly what Usui meant. He is basically saying that labels shouldn’t be needed to define their relationship. And honestly, I agree with him. Misaki and Usui are already meeting halfway and that’s the most important thing. Why stress out about labels when they can just enjoy what they have? Evidently, other characters in this manga see that Usui and Misaki are very much into each other, and are supportive enough to not pressure Misaki to label Usui as her boyfriend. Aoi was probably the only person who was pressuring Misaki to realize her feelings.

Maybe 12 years ago people still cared about putting a label on relationships, maybe that’s why I think this thread didn’t age well lol
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I feel like I kind of understand what Usui meant by saying "...conventional crap like being boyfriend and girlfriend just gets in the way."

Unnecessarily long, so TLDR: Basically he is lying through his teeth; he doesn’t want people to know that Misaki is the only reason they haven’t started dating.

For starters, Misaki clearly has a really difficult time letting men into her life, being that her dad literally abandoned the family with nothing when she was young. It definitely scarred her. Usui, being the one person in her life who can truly say he understands her, wants to make her feel as comfortable as he can. He WANTS to be her boyfriend, that much should be clear, but he prob felt like if he tried pushing her too much for that he might accidentally chase her away. He understands that she isn’t ready yet, so he is being patient and caring for her in his own way, and trying to make things easy for her. Like that one time he asked her boss to help her in ways she wont notice, this is him just doing that.

Misaki, as we know, keeps getting bullied by everyone else in her sphere for not realizing how much he likes her, and for not making it official. Surely he knows this too!! If not he probably is intuitive enough to infer that if he is getting asked about it, then she is getting asked too. He wants everyone in their sphere to think that them not making a 'label' of the relationship is a mutual choice, rather than it being because of Misaki taking her time and healing her childhood traumas. In other words, he is waiting for her to say that she loves him too, so he knows that she is ready, before pushing for the next step. That is one theme that makes me love this manga, as silly as it is to say, they do a great job highlighting the importance of healing and moving past childhood scars. Regardless, they are both healing, and they are both helping each other heal, which is why Usui will hopelessly wait as long as he has to until Misaki is ready to take the next step.

Him getting irritated with everyone who asks him shows that he himself is becoming impatient. The longer he waits for her, on top of how guarded she is, makes him feel more and more hopeless. He was starting to feel a little anxious that they wouldn't work out. Every time he gets asked why they aren’t dating yet, by Kanou and now by Kuuga, he’s probably like ‘you guys don't need to keep reminding me.’ He gets defensive, because he is aware of how hopeless the situation he’s in is, pining for someone who is headstrong and oblivious, but him saying he doesn’t want to be official is more of a cover story, or rather a lie… Am I making sense?

And he probably is a little irritated too because he is very protective over Misaki, and is probably upset that people won't just leave her alone to work out her problems in peace.

Though, again, in regards to why he said what he said about dating, I just think this was his way of protecting her. Yes he is anxious, as most people are in talking stages, but that only explains his irritation and tone. The reason why he actually said it was because he doesn't want Misaki to feel like she is being backed into a corner, and he rather wants her to come to that realization (that she is in love with him) herself. Like he feels as though if Misaki realizes that everyone around them, including him, think that they should become official, she may feel overwhelmed and pressured into the relationship. Either that or it might push her away forever.

He’s basically deflecting and saying ‘I'm going to tell you that I don't want an official relationship, and I’m going to say that they’re dumb, but really I'm only saying that because the girl I love isn’t ready for one yet, and I want to take some of the blame for not taking the next step so she won’t feel like she owes me anything!!! So leave us alone!! I’m also slightly pissed because unrelated people care so much, and that is making me nervous, because deep down I actually am really scared that it won't work out. But I am not going to say that out loud because I hate telling people my feelings.’

I kind of doubt he wanted to keep things lowkey, not wanting to put a label on it, because that's a more modern dating concept so I just feel like it's unlikely (plus this chapter came out in like 2010, and the writer is probably more traditionally minded). Like how that one 20 year old maid is hitting on the 14 year old nephew of the boss… CRAZY NOWADAYS but it was a different time back then… unfortunately.

This manga is a lot more emotionally invested than I realized, and I only realize it now after growing up a bit and reading it again. The art and the dialogue is always so cheerful and lighthearted that it is easy to forget that despite them being fictional characters, they were written well enough to have detailed traumatic backgrounds that affect the way they respond to social situations.

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