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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Hmm, pretty serious episode. The "Brave Witches" collaborates with the military for a joint strategy. Action wise it was okay though, felt like Hikari was more aggressive than usual. Hope she can make herself more confidence again. One thing I do admire her quite a bit is her determination to always improve herself with hard work. |
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| Bitter ending it seems but seeing as there are still two episodes left a lot can still happen. Anyway it seems Takami went pretty far to protect her sister from harm, tho i doubt it was the right thing to do. Seeing siblings in the same unit is pretty rare by 1944 many armies had rules against having siblings in the same unit. The US made a rule for it after a ship with four siblings from the same family was sunk, the rule is mainly meant to prevent parents from loosing several children in one battle. Looking forward to next week. |
AversaDec 14, 2016 9:55 AM
| I'll be honest this was a bit of a sad episode. I get that she's trying to protect her sister but she herself just woke up from a coma. Then to go in and beat her sister like that, and then turn the people she was trying to befriend somewhat against her. There's only so far you should go. Tbh, with 2 episodes left, I'm not sure how they could amend this effectively and have an end fight. Starting to feel like a second season is going to be needed. Still love the "witches" series though. And having said all that, knowing the release track record of the "witches" series. It'll be a while before a next season of this or Strike Witches. Unless they're already working on it. |
PhatalDec 14, 2016 7:42 PM
| I suspect there is approximately a 0% chance that Hikari leaves as planned. |
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| Selfish Takami. How much harder must it have been for their parents to let them go to war? Yet their parents didn't try to stop them. (Some on CR say "but the order came from above." 14:32 Takami made the deal with Field Marshal Manstein to remove Hikari from the front lines.) And great going, Takami - creating a situation where a likely outcome (if this weren't moé military, which I'm glad it is) would be that Takami promptly dies, leaving Hikari with a final lifelong memory of her dear sister taking all her proudest achievements in life; her identity and sense of belonging and self-worth as a Brave Witch; her desperate attempts to erase the lifelong stain of being a failure in the shadow of Takami's perfection - taking all that and treating it as meaningless garbage, not deserving a single word of praise. One may gladly become "the villain" to save a loved one, but this path risks causing Hikari damage for the rest of her life in the process of saving it. Love this show in general, but this is a world where parents everywhere willingly send their 14-year-old daughters to war against inconceivably deadly enemies. When suddenly a family member responds to the danger realistically, I don't think it jives with the overall show's lighthearted fantasy nature. (When I started watching Strike Witches, I thought there would be character deaths. Even teen daydream SAO has character deaths! But I'm glad there aren't any.) razisgosu said: I suspect there is approximately a 0% chance that Hikari leaves as planned. WHAT A RISKY GAMBLE ◔‿ ◔ |
nDroaeDec 14, 2016 9:39 PM
Aversa said: Actually, it was five (George, Francis, Joseph, Madison, and Albert Sullivan). All died as a result of the sinking of the light cruiser USS Juneau in 1942, along with 682 others. 2 of the brothers were among the 100 or so that survived the initial sinking, but died in the massive tragedy of errors that followed, which resulted in the survivors being abandoned for over a week afterward. The US made a rule for it after a ship with four siblings from the same family was sunk, the rule is mainly meant to prevent parents from loosing several children in one battle. Looking forward to next week. Interestingly, the navy (and other services), already had a long-standing policy in place against siblings serving in the same unit - ship in this case. However, this was not always strictly followed, and the Sullivans, two of whom had previously served, demanded they stay together as a condition for enlisting. As such, a waiver was granted. The loss of the 5 brothers prompted the services to begin strictly enforcing the existing policy. The fallout from the overall Juneau tragedy (greatest loss of life from a US vessel at sea) also killed the careers of numerous officers whose negligence and/or oversight contributed to the unacceptably long wait for rescue. It also combined with a few other incidents to lead to increased protections against entire families getting wiped out. The most notable of the others included the 5 Borgstrom brothers and the 4 Niland brothers, both of which resulted in the last surviving brother getting a discharge after the others were killed (or at least presumed dead in the case of one Niland). However, no two brothers were killed in the same unit - the Borgstroms were killed over a 6-month period with no two even in the same country. And while 3 of the Nilands were at Normandy, they were in 3 different divisions. For the record, Saving Private Ryan is loosely based on the Niland story. |
| The loss of the fan service really has pushed the score down for this series. |
| The meeting once again of the sisters would have been a happy reunion but it turned sour to say the least. Takami turned villain on her lil sister to save her, but in exchange, Hikari's hardwork, the self-worth that she gained to be with the 502nd has been crumpled with and thrown in the garbage bin. |
| I feel sympathy for Hikari. Just when she was able to see her sister awake and flying again after a few months out, she decided that Hikari should be based elsewhere, away from the massive operation to take down the Grigori nest. The contest between them was realy close, but Takami narrowly won it. Seeing Hikari crying her heart out on the landing strip outside was pretty disheartening to see. D= Although it's understandable as to why Takami doesn't want Hikari to be on this mission due to Hikari's lack of experience, but honestly, if Takami and that massive railgun get's screwed over in this mission, then the chance to winning would definitely drop into the ocean. So I predict that Hikari will find a way to rejoin the squad and join them in the mission. There's a high chance that she will be if I have to be honest here. =P A good episode overall and I do miss seeing the heavier fanservice that Strike Witches excelled at. =/ |
ErwinJA said: It was five after all was doubting rather it was 4 or 5, it's been a while since i heard the story.Aversa said: Actually, it was five (George, Francis, Joseph, Madison, and Albert Sullivan). All died as a result of the sinking of the light cruiser USS Juneau in 1942, along with 682 others. 2 of the brothers were among the 100 or so that survived the initial sinking, but died in the massive tragedy of errors that followed, which resulted in the survivors being abandoned for over a week afterward. The US made a rule for it after a ship with four siblings from the same family was sunk, the rule is mainly meant to prevent parents from loosing several children in one battle. Looking forward to next week. Interestingly, the navy (and other services), already had a long-standing policy in place against siblings serving in the same unit - ship in this case. However, this was not always strictly followed, and the Sullivans, two of whom had previously served, demanded they stay together as a condition for enlisting. As such, a waiver was granted. The loss of the 5 brothers prompted the services to begin strictly enforcing the existing policy. The fallout from the overall Juneau tragedy (greatest loss of life from a US vessel at sea) also killed the careers of numerous officers whose negligence and/or oversight contributed to the unacceptably long wait for rescue. It also combined with a few other incidents to lead to increased protections against entire families getting wiped out. The most notable of the others included the 5 Borgstrom brothers and the 4 Niland brothers, both of which resulted in the last surviving brother getting a discharge after the others were killed (or at least presumed dead in the case of one Niland). However, no two brothers were killed in the same unit - the Borgstroms were killed over a 6-month period with no two even in the same country. And while 3 of the Nilands were at Normandy, they were in 3 different divisions. For the record, Saving Private Ryan is loosely based on the Niland story. Wasn't the Niland story the one where one of the surviving brothers was found in a Japanese prison camp? |
nDroae said: razisgosu said: I suspect there is approximately a 0% chance that Hikari leaves as planned. WHAT A RISKY GAMBLE ◔‿ ◔ I laughed an excessive amount at this. But still, I do hope that they start releasing their series's faster than 2-3 years per. It's rly disheartening ;-; |
PhatalDec 15, 2016 10:08 AM
nDroae said: Selfish Takami. How much harder must it have been for their parents to let them go to war? Yet their parents didn't try to stop them. (Some on CR say "but the order came from above." 14:32 Takami made the deal with Field Marshal Manstein to remove Hikari from the front lines.) And great going, Takami - creating a situation where a likely outcome (if this weren't moé military, which I'm glad it is) would be that Takami promptly dies, leaving Hikari with a final lifelong memory of her dear sister taking all her proudest achievements in life; her identity and sense of belonging and self-worth as a Brave Witch; her desperate attempts to erase the lifelong stain of being a failure in the shadow of Takami's perfection - taking all that and treating it as meaningless garbage, not deserving a single word of praise. One may gladly become "the villain" to save a loved one, but this path risks causing Hikari damage for the rest of her life in the process of saving it. Love this show in general, but this is a world where parents everywhere willingly send their 14-year-old daughters to war against inconceivably deadly enemies. When suddenly a family member responds to the danger realistically, I don't think it jives with the overall show's lighthearted fantasy nature. (When I started watching Strike Witches, I thought there would be character deaths. Even teen daydream SAO has character deaths! But I'm glad there aren't any.) Let's not forget that Georgette would also being affected if that happen.. |
| That was really quite the episode. I didn't expect that bitter ending, do go from a all-out bawling to credits... Something must happen that brings her back in... |
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| As someone else says, she just wakes up from that coma and rushes to destroy her younger sisters life. Selfish Takami just die. |
Aversa said: Yes. One brother was in the Army Air Corps and was shot down over Burma - and presumed dead. The two that actually died were killed on the first and second days of the Normandy Invasion.Wasn't the Niland story the one where one of the surviving brothers was found in a Japanese prison camp? |
| Its nice to see that Takami has recovered enough to take part in such a large operation. She must want to see her sister so much and probably ask her why she took her place as well. Damm that was some good teamwork in the first battle now that Hikari's ability is known the squadron is making good use of it the friendship and rapport that Hikari has built up with the squadron though is nice to see wow that rail gun certainly is large they are committing a lot of forces for this operation seven days to train Hikari to get in and out of a neuroi nest unscathed now thats a tall order Its nice seeing the rest of the squadron refuse to let Hikari go on whats essentially a suicide mission. Well at least the squadron won't be punished for accepting Hikari but there will be trouble between Takami and Hikari though Wow thats harsh of Takami to say that Since you weren't here the squadron was under strength and if it wasn't for Hikari the front would have fallen long ago. Nice to see that Kanno and Nipa still care about Hikari though its also nice to see the squadron notice the tense relationship that Hikari and Takami have. Seeing the rest of the squadron worry about Hikari just tells you the bond and friendship that Hikari has forged with them. While Takami isn't doing this because she perceives Hikari as a threat can't she just say that this is for the sake of protecting her. There has to be other ways to protect her without hurting Hikari. Man both of them suck at telling the inner feelings and thoughts. wow a lose lose situation if i ever saw one That determination though in both they really are true sisters lol A core inside a core just like a Russian doll eh Damm that final fight was tough that was great teamwork Damm so Hikari lost then |
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| Im glad that Takami returned but I feel bad for hikari ,she worked hard to be able who she is right now and that's being one of the members of 502nd .. |
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| Ah! Because it ended so soon? A bit too fast narration, and even a little for granted in certain situations, except at the beginning where I really believed in the involvement of Hikari and in the end, really earnest narration in this episode. Graphics and animations on the sufficiency wire, air battle not excellent because of brevity. I was expecting something more from Neuroi resurrected, seen as if they were stored. However, the descent into the field of Gundula, lifted my moral, Yay! I wonder if in the end there will be at least the appearance of the 507th squadron. |
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| Not the kind of happy reunion I had in mind and expected :/. |
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| insanely good episode,... feel so bad for hikari... ;-; i mean,, kusoo... 2 more episodes *^* |
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| Of course we all know that Hikari will end up staying with the 502nd. My assumption, though as likely to be wrong as right, is that the Neuroi will attack and interrupt Hikari's departure. Nice to see Manstein make an appearance! |
| I'm not worried, Hikari will be back soon and fighting again. Something is going to happen that will make it possible for her to do so. |
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| God this show has been so predictable. If you don't know Takami is gonna get knocked out instantly out of the battle and Hikari will defeat the next then you're retarded. |
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| There is absolutely no way Hikari would win against Takami when it comes to the effectiveness of locating the core of a Neuroi. It's like a melee fighter versus a sniper fighter...that large of a gap. But I doubt Hikari would leave...well she may be leaving but something different would happened that she would get involved again to joint 502th wing since Hikari's the MC here... 4/5. |
matias067Dec 20, 2016 5:56 PM
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| I am sure Hikari won't leave... |
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| Naw Hikari ain't leaving |
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| Quite interesting development I must say, this episode was really intense and a bit of drama as well! That ending :'( pretty good development though, let's see what's next. |
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| A cheap sibling drama, just we needed. |
| Enough episode on the level of dialogues and human relations, not so with regard to the action and the choreographer of aerial fights. Quality of drawings and animations just enough. |
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| Eh, cheap drama once again. I wish they could've finished this show without that and just beat some Neuroi ass. |
| Wow, that Neuroi had a core inside the core. Thats explained how the thing could survived well from the previous episode battle. Interesting .... But, the more intriguing one on these episode where Karibuchi's sisterhood challenged each others over one spot only at 502nd unit. Lol. I just love Rall's decision there to passed them out to challenge each others, and finally watching her flied well in the sky was so bless to see. Well, at least Karibuchi's sisterhood showed their skill pretty well done to pin pointed out the core inside the core. Even if its surely hard as hell. They both had the same care over their own ambitions. A little fight over a sweet relation between those two sisters was real. And they just expressed it with a wrong way, especially with Takami expression over Hikari's development. Oh, well, i hope Hikari could shut off that Takami's mouth. But oh well. Hikari didn't even win the duel and forcefully left her 502nd spot. Ah, even in the military, some feeling could enter the unit, made it hard to controlled them in one command. Its really tickling me with how Rall's managed them all with that convoluted backgrounds. Oh well, left aside the thing. I am really curious to see their next deal, especially with the last all-out mission, after that shit event. Was there any chance to Hikari to came back? Well, 2 more episodes before this over! |
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| The big sis is back in action! This was a pretty dramatic episode. Poor Hikari. :( I don't want her to leave. |
SerafosDec 16, 2023 6:29 AM
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| Well, Takami is being protective.. And I guess she didn't know any info, and didn't know how much Hikari learnt in this short time.. So it's understandable, even if it doesn't feel right or wrong.. There are both dangers and potential help from Hikari if she stays.. But Takami also could be warmer towards her sister, but she also didn't know about progress, and just wanted to remain firm or something, I guess.. In the end, it's not bad or good, it seems.. |
Gendolfas said: But Takami also could be warmer towards her sister, Yeah, I watched this and thought it would be a happy reunion between the two sisters but I was wrong lol. I mean I was glad to see that Takami cares about Hikari, but she did not have to be so rude. |
ColdBisquiT said: Yeah, I watched this and thought it would be a happy reunion between the two sisters but I was wrong lol. I mean I was glad to see that Takami cares about Hikari, but she did not have to be so rude. True.. ;p I guess maybe Takami decided by herself what is better for her own sister.. At least at first.. |
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