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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Hope next episode will be more epic, it's still going a bit slow. |
| Okay, for me as a VN reader the episode was great. Yeah you heard right....I thought it was great. They really showed potential in adapting a novel well, which is a rare potential. They actually suceed in constructing their own arc and fusing important information into the plot, especially the case of the two lovers shown in the beginning is something that is only touched upon briefly in the VN, and while it was important for some information, I found those two characters a bit thrown at me (considering they appeared in the second last arc...and we never actually saw what happened to them, we only heard it from another person). Also the beginning was great and very atmospheric for me. They really put some effort in creating some tension this time around...and while I know it was important to hook all of you new viewers, I still think it would have worked better to save the appearance of the wolfs until the scene this episode. |
Waiting for: God Eater (PSP) 私が、探偵だからよ。 |
Episode was frustrating.....not only more questions arised but Nemuru is seriously getting on my nerves with her kills....D:< This girl (think her name is Kanako)=> What in the world...when things start up in the night the phones are dead? Why?=> |
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| Finally, it's starting to pick up; very pleased with this episode. Fourth time's the charm I suppose. |
seizonsha said: Okay, for me as a VN reader the episode was great. Yeah you heard right....I thought it was great. They really showed potential in adapting a novel well, which is a rare potential. Oh nice, you've played the PSP VN? So this arc is an anime-original arc? |
| K so... wtf is this exactly? A supernatural wolf possession? Hormonal reaction gone insane? Unknown disease turning them into rabid things? A werewolf going into heat? Either way, the pills seem to be some kind of suppressant but what does that make the hassaku? It seemed to have some kind of suppressant in it as well. Perhaps the drugs infused the hassaku essence to make it more potent? Nemeru's little group seems to cut off anybody that develops a relationship with someone in order to neutralize whatever manifests in the perpetrator. Alas, the two main questions still remain unanswered. |
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Wasabi said: K so... wtf is this exactly? A supernatural wolf possession? Hormonal reaction gone insane? Unknown disease turning them into rabid things? A werewolf going into heat? Exactly my frustrations more or less, glad there is someone that wants some answers like me. Wasabi said: Either way, the pills seem to be some kind of suppressant but what does that make the hassaku? It seemed to have some kind of suppressant in it as well. Perhaps the drugs infused the hassaku essence to make it more potent? I was thinking the pill is made of the hassaku into powder/liquid form? Wasabi said: Again another question to be answered.....it's just more questions arise.Nemeru's little group seems to cut off anybody that develops a relationship with someone in order to neutralize whatever manifests in the perpetrator. Alas, the two main questions still remain unanswered. |
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| Well, I think I pretty much figured out why Issei "forces" himself on Hiroshi and rejects the girl. Good so far. |
dandere said: Wasabi said: Nemeru's little group seems to cut off anybody that develops a relationship with someone in order to neutralize whatever manifests in the perpetrator. Alas, the two main questions still remain unanswered. Excuse my ignorance, but when was Nemeru revealed to be the masked girl? At the end of the credits you see her holding the mask. |
| Least we're finally getting somewhere... |
Maximatum99 said: dandere said: Wasabi said: Nemeru's little group seems to cut off anybody that develops a relationship with someone in order to neutralize whatever manifests in the perpetrator. Alas, the two main questions still remain unanswered. Excuse my ignorance, but when was Nemeru revealed to be the masked girl? At the end of the credits you see her holding the mask. Not only that but her facial features are too obvious from the first episode already and I even compared it with 2 pics so it should be enough to use one's own vision with judgment. |
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dandere said: No one stalks no ones post...just reading makes me understand lots...I will take into account not to look too much into what looks alike in anime characters.Sorry but I don't stalk your posts so I had no idea that you posted a comparison picture. And also the two of them have different hair styles, plus this is an anime, characters facial features don't count for shit, take their wigs off and they all look 90% the same lool... |
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francismeunier said: it was never said why this person was killed other than maybe having a love relationship like Kanako did. Kaori is a nice addition to the serie and Sakaki seems to think....no, she looks exactly like Miiko (think that's the name of his fiancee) so I am thinking clones? Clearly he saw her being killed with his ring besides her unless she faked that. thought she was supposed to be dead....pretty sure maybe my bad or maybe the clones thing? I'm currently guessing that both of them are actually the same person, with the corpse in Episode 2 so horribly disfigured causing the guy to mistake the dead for his girlfriend. Scythe girl probably let her go the first time round, sparing her life provided she adopts a new identity and stays away from that guy. But after seeing that guy again in this episode, she can't suppress her feelings any longer. Anyway good episode. I'm starting to get mindfuck-ed, which is a good sign. |
LuniazKun said: LuniazKun said: francismeunier said: it was never said why this person was killed other than maybe having a love relationship like Kanako did. Kaori is a nice addition to the serie and Sakaki seems to think....no, she looks exactly like Miiko (think that's the name of his fiancee) so I am thinking clones? Clearly he saw her being killed with his ring besides her unless she faked that. thought she was supposed to be dead....pretty sure maybe my bad or maybe the clones thing? LuniazKun said: Nice deducation Watson (playing Sherlock Holmes in this serie) but even so why would she let her go like that and is it because that man (Sakaki/maybe his father at that time) was a key worker to provide them medicine to deal with the problem they have to slay people because they go crazy? I am assuming at worst that but I hate the fact that a marriage/love was stopped because of that.I'm currently guessing that both of them are actually the same person, with the corpse in Episode 2 so horribly disfigured causing the guy to mistake the dead for his girlfriend. Scythe girl probably let her go the first time round, sparing her life provided she adopts a new identity and stays away from that guy. But after seeing that guy again in this episode, she can't suppress her feelings any longer. |
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francismeunier said: Nice deducation Watson (playing Sherlock Holmes in this serie) but even so why would she let her go like that... Well, Nemuru (assuming she really is the scythe girl) ain't that bad and unreasonable. For those who still have their sanity, she tries to warn them first instead of just killing them, as we have seen in Episode 2 where Nemuru talks to Izusu (probably to warn her not to get too close to Hiro). |
francismeunier said: I am assuming at worst that but I hate the fact that a marriage/love was stopped because of that. Here's the thing you're missing. Who knows what will actually happen if the people who start exhibiting those symptoms actually didn't get killed? They could've end up killing the person they love from their insanity/possession/hormonal rage. And then they'd be set loose upon the rest of the world. As we see with Issei, the pills don't exactly work as well as intended. Who knows what would've happened if he had his way with Hiro. He probably would've ate him or something. It seems to be quite necessary for these people to be disposed of before they cause any more harm to others. |
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| this episode is great.. it gave me a lot of clues and i think i have a pretty good image of the entire thing now but they are all hunches.. francis, in case you haven't noticed, a lot of vn's of this genre are like this.. you do not have any idea what the entire thing is at first and you have a lot of questions.. trying to answer them are one of the things that keeps you going to watch/read more.. it all just depends on how they execute on giving us the answer.. so yeah.. they won't give us the entire thing and drop some clues and even more questions to go deeper into the background of the story just like what they did here.. |
| 1 word: Amazing. Ryukishi, I knew you wouldn't disappoint us! :D |
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| Hmmm... I wonder if a wolf falls due to being involved w/ an outsider. In Higurashi, outsiders were normally not overly welcomed, or shall I say that those within the village/town don't try to leave... Well, more info will be unveiled as the story keeps moving.. |
| Sore wa himitsu desu. |
| Issei seem to be hesitating.I think he is going to confess everything to Hiroshi in the future and later get slain for being traitor. ^^ The Hassaku liquid in his car is a prove If only i know how much episode in this series...It would be boring if it only last 12 episode ~.~ |
MorningGloryJan 29, 2010 4:29 AM
| YEEEEEEAAAAH PLOT! (Knew it was gonna get here) -Really like the pre-OP sequence. No idea why, just glad that it meant something by the end. -Kaori seems nice. Something tells me she's going to go feral by the end though. -Next week, looks like Issei finally loses it. |
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francismeunier said: ...most brutalizing was her scream like she was cattle to be killed off.....this is not acceptable for the fact that just because of love (even OP says it) she gets killed unless she killed the man she loved. I am be misunderstanding you but it seems that you are hating Nemuru for killing this girl because the girl fell in love with someone? I really don't think that's the case. Notice the things that girl said? "What are you saying I did?", "But I couldn't help it", "It was such a small thing!"Apparently that girl did something to that boy. I doubt shes getting Axed off just because she slept with a guy. I wonder what she did.... Also there is the possibility that Nemuru and the scythe girl are not the same person. They could be twins. Like Shion and Mion. Or in a more unlikely case; clones. However the only reason I suspect this is because at the moment it's too obvious that it's her. This is Ryukishi we are dealing with here. Nothing is ever what you assume. I wonder if this has anything to do with Chinese mythology? I say this because there seems to be Chinese symbols in the show. Like the Chinese Zodiac engraved on the scythe. And the song played on the flute during the break was very Chinese sounding. I wonder if it's a hint? Is there any Chinese folklore or songs that relate to wolves and fruit? I think this is were it really starts. The introduction episodes are over. Now it's the real deal. However if Ryukishi is going to put in the time loop into this then the next episode will probably be the last of the arc, or the episode after that. |
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| I SEE WHAT UR DOING THAR. The townspeople are actually a wolf pack and there are rules like in a real one - you can't mate with anyone you'd like cause that's what alpha wolves do lololol /not really. This is getting more on the action side, which is good because bland characters make the everyday-life episodes boring. I'm starting to feel bad for Issei, the dude is clearly trying to fight whatever stupid curse is taking over him. |
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| This is definitely my favorite episode so far. Everything was done perfectly. I was waiting for Hiro to end up seeing what the people are doing at night. |
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| The best episode so far, it's getting interesting. |
| レッツゴー ED イケイケゴーゴー |
rabbitpoets said: Oh nice, you've played the PSP VN? So this arc is an anime-original arc? It's more or less an amalgamation of several VN arcs into a new anime original one. This is no problem, because the different arcs were mostly about showing what happened at different places at the same time, even though of course Hiroshi's different actions made them slightly different. In the VN there are the following chapters: So far in the anime we have events from: So they restructured some events a little bit and therefore cut one of the most annoying bits of the VN...it's repetetive storytelling. Everyone who read either Higurashi or Umineko knows how Ryukishi likes to emphasize things he finds important, which means those passages can easily be some 20-30 pages long...and getting them again and again and again grew to be the biggest flaw of Ookamikakushi. The anime COULD prove to at least tone that down a bit. |
| Waiting for: God Eater (PSP) 私が、探偵だからよ。 |
| @seizonsha, thanks for that informations. Only if VN was in english... |
| レッツゴー ED イケイケゴーゴー |
| And for an other week everyone continues to be gay for Hiroshi. Well at least this ep was a bit interesting, though I think that the pace is till a bit slow. |
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| Does anyone know what BGM is playing when that girl's being followed by the ''Red Fireflies''? It's amazing. <3 EDIT: Just downloaded the VN's complete OST, but it didn't include this song... D: I guess it's anime-only. |
Samu-tanJan 29, 2010 7:41 AM
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| Ah Hiro is annoying me again. Is it wise to scream like a little girl after witnessing a murder? Don't think so. But overall a good episode since it seems obvious the plot is moving along now that he found out about the killings. |
| When the girl who likes to read books (can't remember her name) was talking about the fireflies, I was like "Oh look, she's using the red truth" >,< So, I'm assuming that love makes people go crazy....in a negative sense? |
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Wasabi said: francismeunier said: I am assuming at worst that but I hate the fact that a marriage/love was stopped because of that. Here's the thing you're missing. Who knows what will actually happen if the people who start exhibiting those symptoms actually didn't get killed? They could've end up killing the person they love from their insanity/possession/hormonal rage. And then they'd be set loose upon the rest of the world. I was thinking about the jealousy being a factor in doing that to the other for example Ookami girl liking this guy but other guy likes her tries something with her and she kills him but that is yet to be shown in the serie so we don't know about that at all. We will see about that statement of yours in this serie. Wasabi said: I agree but once again it might not be that....I am thinking it could but nothing so far says anything like that in the serie your assumption is yet to be proven but logically I would assume those reasons to be logical enough.As we see with Issei, the pills don't exactly work as well as intended. Who knows what would've happened if he had his way with Hiro. He probably would've ate him or something. It seems to be quite necessary for these people to be disposed of before they cause any more harm to others. LuniazKun said: Yes that's true but where is the medicine that can save them and why not Nemuru somehow trying to give it to those going crazy? Maybe killing is the only choice for her but I still do not approve those, the warning might be nice but the medicine is what saves them not her killing and disposing of them. It only saves the townspeople.francismeunier said: Nice deducation Watson (playing Sherlock Holmes in this serie) but even so why would she let her go like that... Well, Nemuru (assuming she really is the scythe girl) ain't that bad and unreasonable. For those who still have their sanity, she tries to warn them first instead of just killing them, as we have seen in Episode 2 where Nemuru talks to Izusu (probably to warn her not to get too close to Hiro). argilium said: So I notice but I still get irritated at the notion of love being stopped because of some syndrome unless that problem evolves into something that harms the other person then I start to get scared and would kill them all. francis, in case you haven't noticed, a lot of vn's of this genre are like this.. you do not have any idea what the entire thing is at first and you have a lot of questions.. trying to answer them are one of the things that keeps you going to watch/read more.. it all just depends on how they execute on giving us the answer.. so yeah.. they won't give us the entire thing and drop some clues and even more questions to go deeper into the background of the story just like what they did here.. AidanAK47 said: francismeunier said: ...most brutalizing was her scream like she was cattle to be killed off.....this is not acceptable for the fact that just because of love (even OP says it) she gets killed unless she killed the man she loved. AidanAK47 said: I am be misunderstanding you but it seems that you are hating Nemuru for killing this girl because the girl fell in love with someone? I really don't think that's the case. Notice the things that girl said? "What are you saying I did?", "But I couldn't help it", "It was such a small thing!"Apparently that girl did something to that boy. I doubt shes getting Axed off just because she slept with a guy. I wonder what she did.... So I see now but I wonder about the same thing....if it's murder due to uncontrolled hormones/syndrome then there is no choice to what Nemuru does because you have to tame the wildness. AidanAK47 said: Could be twins, could be clones in worst case it can be a double role/double personality but Hiroshi is getting close to the whole thing....hoping more nights with him will be shown.Also there is the possibility that Nemuru and the scythe girl are not the same person. They could be twins. Like Shion and Mion. Or in a more unlikely case; clones. However the only reason I suspect this is because at the moment it's too obvious that it's her. This is Ryukishi we are dealing with here. Nothing is ever what you assume. AidanAK47 said: That's a interesting thing maybe search for Chinese tales and wolves but not sure if anything will come up. I wonder if this has anything to do with Chinese mythology? I say this because there seems to be Chinese symbols in the show. Like the Chinese Zodiac engraved on the scythe. And the song played on the flute during the break was very Chinese sounding. I wonder if it's a hint? Is there any Chinese folklore or songs that relate to wolves and fruit? OrochiPL said: Yeah seizonsha you have my thanks too for the information it was interesting@seizonsha, thanks for that informations. Only if VN was in english... |
francismeunierJan 29, 2010 9:05 AM
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| Gay man raep [smelling] is really destroying this for me. although everything seems to be turning into higurashi nicely. P.S. I didn't know that they made drugs to control gay man rape impulses. |
LoginBonus01Jan 29, 2010 9:49 AM
| Okey dokey, reviewed here and I must say I enjoyed this episode. Finally someone is seeing what we've been seeing for the past 3 episodes. Copied from my blog: 1.) That wasn’t Sakaki’s wife I saw before in the ED. It was Kaori, although considering how she and Mieko look the same, could she be Mieko’s twin? Now there’s still one person who hasn’t shown up in the show, but is present in the ED. 2.) There seems to be some anti-sex/anti-physical contact law in Jouga, although why remains to be seen. Maybe it has something to do with the old town and new town people intermixing or something? Guess we’ll see. 3.) The smell of the hassaku = wolf neutralizer, lol. 4.) Where does everyone go at night, and why didn’t the phones work? Well, maybe the people are involved, like Sakaki said, but it’s possible that none of the people are involved. Although, people don’t talk when someone “transfers”, making them look suspicious, but then again, maybe they don’t want to anger whoever is killing the people. 5.) I can see Issei dying fairly soon. I mean, his impulses are kinda getting a bit out of control, and if they’re out of his meds, then he might go completely nuts, and reaper girl will intervene and scythe him to death, lol. 6.) Isuzu knows something about her brother’s condition, as she doesn’t seem to want him to go anywhere alone. 7.)Now that it hasn’t been in a few episodes, I miss the hassaku commercial =( When I saw that Kaori looked like Mieko, my Higurashi senses (they're like spidey senses, only they pick up reused plot lines xD) went off, and I immediately thought 'twin sister'. Maybe we've got some Shion/Mion craziness to deal with in this one too. Who knows, but I really like this show now. |
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| This episode was very good, although I am a bit confused about the pretty girl in this episode. In the beginning, her name was Kanako. Then, when she was playing the violin, her name turned to Kaori. Finally, the mysterious traveler thought she was Mieko... wait, what? So who was the girl at the beginning, who was the girl playing the violin, and who was the girl who got killed? If it weren't for the names, I wouldn't have gotten confused. Other than that though, this episode was very good. Finally, not so much annoying Isuzu scenes. More on the plot! I hope the rest of the season will have episodes like this instead of slice of life stuff, because honestly, even as a slice of life fan, the slice of life-ness in this show is pretty boring. |
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guyklc said: In the beginning, her name was Kanako. That was not the same girl. That was another victim of the weird plague. She just died in this episode. guyklc said: Then, when she was playing the violin, her name turned to Kaori. That's the new character introduced in this episode guyklc said: ]Finally, the mysterious traveler thought she was Mieko That is the name of the traveler's wife or girlfriend or whatever. Kaori looks exactly like her. |
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| Too slow to really mean anything. And not even a single thing was explained in this episode. |
 "A Legend is but a tale of a beautiful lie." |
| And now it's time for everyone's favorite new game show: "Who Won't Get Raped Today?" I'll be your host, Spookt. We have a fine selection for you, so let's get right to it! Contestant One is a megane douche with the personality of a soggy cardboard box and the emotional age of a boy half his age. Two characters already have the hots for him and those two are brother and sister (I smell threeee-waaay). Please welcome "Little Red"! Contestant Two is a nameless schoolboy who exists only to create a false sense of dramatic tension and a continuity with the killings we keep seeing. He's that mysterious plot device that says "hey! don't these sequences intrigue you enough to hang on for just-one-more-episode?" Please welcome "That Dude"! Contestant Three is a sweet little thing. Plump and juicy and just waiting to be split open and sucked dry. Please welcome "Hassaku"! And the victims are... Looks like our winner goes on to play another day. Will anything of any consequence occur soon? Tune in next week and find out! |
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| If you see it, you'll shit bricks. ..wait, wat? (ﾟ⊿ﾟ) Hmm.. I just hope nothing bad'll happen to Kana-chan, that would be disastrous （・３・ア Oh and I kinda like Nemuru more and more as well, dunno why, if I remember correctly, I tried denying that previously or so ( ﾟ,_ゝﾟ) But Issei, seriously, go die or something (¬_¬) And really, he's got quite a bitchy sister, doesn't he? ٩(̾●̮̮̃̾•̃̾)۶ So then, as has been stated by many already, during these episodes, the people of the old town, are strange. ＼| ￣ヘ￣|／ Mana Mana, sounds kinda cool ʘ‿ʘ And Kaori is sooooo suspicious ヽ(´Д｀ヽ) Woah, and the same goes to say about Isuzu and Issei's mother ಠ_ಠ "Issei-sempai, I like you." "Too bad, but I'm gay and I like young boys, so get lost." ┐(-｡ｰ')┌ Oh.. This was.. So, how come this guy knows Kaori, and how does that work? No, please don't answer that, I'm talking to myself （´・ω・｀） So, if you fall in love, and you're a local, you're screwed （￣ー￣） Anyway, the most stupid thing is that Hiroshi ran away after seeing the girl get killed. I mean.. Technically, the wolves should've followed him when they see him running ┐(-｡ｰ')┌ Though knowing that this is an anime, and that Hiroshi is in fact the main character (However unlikely it may seem).. They just had to let him slip by unnoticed. He even tried his best to be seen by being so un-stealthy ┐('～`；)┌ |
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Oosran said: Hmm.. I just hope nothing bad'll happen to Kana-chan, that would be disastrous （・３・ア I would drop anime after this. Oosran said: "Issei-sempai, I like you." "Too bad, but I'm gay and I like young boys, so get lost." ┐(-｡ｰ')┌ Win. xD Oosran said: Anyway, the most stupid thing is that Hiroshi ran away after seeing the girl get killed. I mean.. Technically, the wolves should've followed him when they see him running ┐(-｡ｰ')┌ Though knowing that this is an anime, and that Hiroshi is in fact the main character (However unlikely it may seem).. They just had to let him slip by unnoticed. He even tried his best to be seen by being so un-stealthy ┐('～`；)┌ Yeah, that's strange. |
| レッツゴー ED イケイケゴーゴー |
| im glad i decided to keep watching this is show its starting to get interesting now. But on another note im even more curious now of what the rules are and why they are in place, this show produces more questions then answers, but still great episode. |
Oosran said: Anyway, the most stupid thing is that Hiroshi ran away after seeing the girl get killed. I mean.. Technically, the wolves should've followed him when they see him running ┐(-｡ｰ')┌ Though knowing that this is an anime, and that Hiroshi is in fact the main character (However unlikely it may seem).. They just had to let him slip by unnoticed. He even tried his best to be seen by being so un-stealthy ┐('～`；)┌ Yeah, I was wondering about that too but I figured considering that no one was around, no one would really believe him anyway. Then again, the traveler guy believed him so my whole argument is invalid >.< |
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| this is what I think: The town/city are half wolf / human and since they made the city bigger, and new people started living in the town / city the elders of the half wolf / human decided that they are only to be in love and have children with their own kind... so if they find ya with a normal human they will kill you. I hope this is not the story tho because it would suck... I probably know the ending too =/ |
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Maximilious said: this is what I think: The town/city are half wolf / human and since they made the city bigger, and new people started living in the town / city the elders of the half wolf / human decided that they are only to be in love and have children with their own kind... so if they find ya with a normal human they will kill you. I hope this is not the story tho because it would suck... I probably know the ending too =/ Yeah i hope so too, it's just lame... |
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