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Jun 28, 2016 4:36 PM
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Oh, so back then Yamada confessed to Shirashi instead. Not too surprising imo and at least the power worked.

That smile though~
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oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooookay. . . -----------______________------
this is it for me, literally a walking in circles, to hell with this...see ya guys... fucking drop... (probably check out last chapter when released though)
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Again that classic nenebait lol. I am not even sad now knowing how much the manga has become boring and dragging lately. And after that buildup, seriously? Oh wait, every nene shipper knew it.

Pretty predictable now(as always), shiraishi must have been some responsible for yamada's suspension and blah blah. 0/5 , yup deserves it for this dragging.
Jun 29, 2016 12:14 AM
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author is literally just trolling.

c203-204: hey yamada had a gf before shiraishi who wasn't shiraishi. welp ofc Yamada has to find out even though he "supposedly" loves shiraishi, clearly it matters who it is

c211: time-travel and.... it's shiraishi

shiraishi has more plot armor than goku, story is literally going in loops and author just keeps inventing convenient memory gaps to extend story arc... just ridiculous
Jun 29, 2016 12:24 AM
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ilawlatnoobs said:
author is literally just trolling.

c203-204: hey yamada had a gf before shiraishi who wasn't shiraishi. welp ofc Yamada has to find out even though he "supposedly" loves shiraishi, clearly it matters who it is

c211: time-travel and.... it's shiraishi

shiraishi has more plot armor than goku, story is literally going in loops and author just keeps inventing convenient memory gaps to extend story arc... just ridiculous


literally fucking this...
Jun 29, 2016 2:17 AM
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In the Himekawa arc, I said the following on another forum:
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I mean, I can totally see Yoshikawa-sensei inserting Shiraishi magically into Yamada's past and going with the "They met each other before and loved each other before the story" route, but that would be a huge, huge BS in my opinion."

And now I'm here, it happened and I'm on suicide watch...
Jun 29, 2016 2:23 AM
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Welp, I'm out. This is the BS of the century, fuck this author, first Yankee-kun to Megane-chan, now this crap, swear this is the last of his/her work I'll ever read...
Should have ended on first arc sight...
Dropped/5.
Bye and good luck to those that stay.
Jun 29, 2016 6:41 PM
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This chapter we found out that Shiraishi was the girl he confesses to before the series started. Basically their relationship went no where xD
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Jun 29, 2016 7:33 PM
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WTF that doesn't make sense!

Odagiri WTF are you doing?

I mean what's with all the build up? Something wrong here.


Chapter 184: Takuma is saying something about him falling in love to someone else.
(I bet Shiraishi have the memories)

There is also the Picture of Yamada on Odagiri.

Odagiri, Himekawa and Nancy was the first girls to be close to Yamada.

So if you subtract the the characters so far Himekawa and Nancy is already out which only leads to Odagiri.
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hellogarry said:
WTF that doesn't make sense!

Odagiri WTF are you doing?

I mean what's with all the build up? Something wrong here.


Chapter 184: Takuma is saying something about him falling in love to someone else.
(I bet Shiraishi have the memories)

There is also the Picture of Yamada on Odagiri.

Odagiri, Himekawa and Nancy was the first girls to be close to Yamada.

So if you subtract the the characters so far Himekawa and Nancy is already out which only leads to Odagiri.


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tell me about it

i thought the same thing some time ago. Actually, when i saw shiraishi image i thought it could be some sort of illusion (you know, those moments when you see someone and wish it was somebody else you like) but then i remembered odagiri was talking to Miyamura and forget about the above...i can't take this anymore, it's simply ridiculous (even generic girl #36 could have been a better option, but no... it is going around in circles over and over)... all doomed... hope it ends soon though
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all this build up
and when I finally thought this why I loved this manga .
it does 'that' again.
*sigh*


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SURPRISE,

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ludokresh said:
hellogarry said:
WTF that doesn't make sense!

Odagiri WTF are you doing?

I mean what's with all the build up? Something wrong here.


Chapter 184: Takuma is saying something about him falling in love to someone else.
(I bet Shiraishi have the memories)

There is also the Picture of Yamada on Odagiri.

Odagiri, Himekawa and Nancy was the first girls to be close to Yamada.

So if you subtract the the characters so far Himekawa and Nancy is already out which only leads to Odagiri.


----___----
tell me about it

i thought the same thing some time ago. Actually, when i saw shiraishi image i thought it could be some sort of illusion (you know, those moments when you see someone and wish it was somebody else you like) but then i remembered odagiri was talking to Miyamura and forget about the above...i can't take this anymore, it's simply ridiculous (even generic girl #36 could have been a better option, but no... it is going around in circles over and over)... all doomed... hope it ends soon though


^ This
Could have been any other girl, GlassesPresident, NewGirl, even Miyamura would have been better as absurd as and hilarious as it sounds, but making it being Shiraishi all along just makes this cheap, trolling, contradictory and "THE BS" as well as the last straw...
Jun 29, 2016 9:52 PM

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Hey the fact that there wasn't a plot-twist given how he mislead so many of us into thinking there would be one is a pretty good plot-twist in itself.
Jun 29, 2016 10:28 PM

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Oh man so many people are gonna be salty over this chapter. kek
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Jun 29, 2016 10:34 PM

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RIP the dream! All this build up for nothing. And the confession scene doesn't feel right, shaking hands after being confessed to? Seriously? I'm so salty right now..
Jun 29, 2016 10:38 PM

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Welp, that was a lot more straight forward than expected. With all that build up, I feel like there has to be more. Even as a Shiraishi fan, that didn't feel very satiating. Here's to hope there's more than what just meets the eye here.
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RIP the dream! All this build up for nothing. And the confession scene doesn't feel right, shaking hands after being confessed to? Seriously? I'm so salty right now..


same here... everything was for nothing...a sad day indeed,man...heartbreaking as fuck
damn it all to hell...

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The thing is, even as a Nene supporter I was prepared for my ship to sunk, because let's be realistic, Shiraishi is winning anyway.
The problem is that all this built up arcs were to bait, granted that most of us already knew that, but it could have been dealt in better way and still having the so called "Happy End Shiraishi Route", but this chapter showing that all told to readers was irrelevant as Shiraishi was Yamada's girlfriend all along made all that flat, cheap and it just fells like trolling almost on Nisekoi-level just to prolong the series.

That's why it would've been better if it were anyone else, even if Shiraishi were to still win at the end. Sight...
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The thing is, even as a Nene supporter I was prepared for my ship to sunk, because let's be realistic, Shiraishi is winning anyway.
The problem is that all this built up arcs were to bait, granted that most of us already knew that, but it could have been dealt in better way and still having the so called "Happy End Shiraishi Route", but this chapter showing that all told to readers was irrelevant as Shiraishi was Yamada's girlfriend all along made all that flat, cheap and it just fells like trolling almost on Nisekoi-level just to prolong the series.

That's why it would've been better if it were anyone else, even if Shiraishi were to still win at the end. Sight...


exactly my thoughts, it's been loop after loop, fillers (should have ended in chapter 90)...
[shit, even clichekoi handled this thing just slightly better...]
Jun 29, 2016 11:41 PM

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Totally called it
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Nice!! So his ex-girlfriend is his actual girlfriend! Hope we`ll find how they lost their memories soon

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I'm really happy about this, especially the salty comments!!
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THE SALT
Seriously i'm so happy that's shiraishi
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THE SALT
Seriously i'm so happy that's shiraishi

It's not really about the salt
(1) inconsistent writing(class president said it wasn't Shiraishi and also not Himekawa although I'm expecting some bs justification next chapter) and for that matter even as a Nene fan I wouldn't want her to win that way either
(2) the cheesiest outcome ever, no girl has any chance because Shiraishi will always wins by default, not through proper plot development
(3) we've already gone through this whole Yamada's girlfriend of the past with Himekawa so it's a pretty tired plot. not to mention everything after the 1st arc has been missing memories this missing memories that, it's just set up in a way that leaves a sour taste in my mouth. unreliable memories is just a plot device that can be used to remake certain plot consistencies but at this point it feels I couldn't give less of a f*ck because their memories are so inconsistent that none of the information that is fed to the reader feels like it is trustworthy.
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maybe ..just maybe.. yamada got dumped later or something on the next chapter. I CANT TAKE MORE OF YOUR TROLLS WRITER-san!!
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maybe ..just maybe.. yamada got dumped later or something on the next chapter. I CANT TAKE MORE OF YOUR TROLLS WRITER-san!!


She said already said "Yes" and it's the end of First Year.

We know Yamada is dumb but I doubt he will confess to another girl in that short amount of time.

Anyway it can be Shiraishi's image was just seen as the real girlfriend's image because that's what Yamada desires but it's possible that it's not really Shiraishi.
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So in the end it was the most boring and predictable outcome of all the possibilities. :/

My last hope is that this is not what happened at all and more of what Yamada wishes had happened.
Why would she agree so casually without getting flustered and all? Why would they shake hands in that situation? They shouldn't have any deep connection at that point.
I somehow think and hope this "memory" is lying to him.
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I put this manga on hold about 30 chapters ago because I felt that the premise got laid to waste and the story went to shit since it became the same plot just on repeat.

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Again that classic nenebait lol. I am not even sad now knowing how much the manga has become boring and dragging lately. And after that buildup, seriously? Oh wait, every nene shipper knew it.

Pretty predictable now(as always), shiraishi must have been some responsible for yamada's suspension and blah blah. 0/5 , yup deserves it for this dragging.

The nene shippers needed to believe that they weren't wasting their time....they were wrong.
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So damn predictable. It's funny how the author makes the revealing part so natural that there's no effin suspense! I had a feeling it was Shiraishi, but was greatly hoping it was Nene or some other girl. Ugh. Disappointed!!!
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Shiraishi FTW!!

Erm, I guess that's possible. Class president said she had never saw the girl. In this case, it seems Yamada and Hino tried to be sneaky. The two of them met up like they did, which may cause the prez and others to have though it was the other girl, and the truth is it wasn't.

Well who knows, it could be other way round. I'm not gonna conclude what I said so soon yet. I want to see wat will be happened in the next chapter.
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Well, I'm not really a fan of Shiraishi but this chapter gave me a big smile. I don't dislike the fact that this is Shiraishi again and that simple thinking that you can't go against fate.

Now, some things seem strange. Some dialogues with Shiraishi and Takuma make me believe that she's hiding something.
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Whoa whoa whoa, that can't be it right? You gotta be kidding me, I wasn't expecting Shiraishi...
"At some point, I stopped hoping."
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Well, there goes my Nene ship ;_;
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ludokresh said:
ilawlatnoobs said:
author is literally just trolling.

c203-204: hey yamada had a gf before shiraishi who wasn't shiraishi. welp ofc Yamada has to find out even though he "supposedly" loves shiraishi, clearly it matters who it is

c211: time-travel and.... it's shiraishi

shiraishi has more plot armor than goku, story is literally going in loops and author just keeps inventing convenient memory gaps to extend story arc... just ridiculous


literally fucking this...


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it all comes back around, holy shit
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Funny how many ppl actually did not see this coming. I tought it was obvious since they 1st mention it. Salt is real tho lmao.
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fck this
Now completely,
My Disappointment Is Immeasurable And My Day Is Ruined
My heart now, is shredded to thousands pieces. Even when I predicted this silly course of events but still..
RIP Odagiri 😣

I mean I expected this would happen but not in this unpro way.

Before seeing that picture with Odagiri & Shiraishi, I thought he might've liked another girl, someone like Nene or any other girl and yet, at the end of this manga, he would end up with Shiraishi for sure, in some way. Well you guessed it, cuz she's the Main Heroine, at least in the present.

Back then I wondered how the author will implement that, how she would make Shiraishi win if she's not in their group because it's hard to, suddenly, insert Shiraishi among them so that Yamada could fall for her.

Only for that girl Hino to show a picture featuring Shiraishi in it? Seriously? Out of the blue?
So after seeing that photo, I stopped struggling about Nene, I was very sure that the girl he was dating would turn out to be Shiraishi but this is just stupid, I mean not convincing.

Every Yamada x Nene shipper knew that those panels with Yamada and all hints about their past and being together all the time were a bait, we knew that Nene won't end up with him and he would pick Shiraishi finally, but c'mon at least make it sensible. Not After what the chairperson said or after what Takuma said in ch. 184.

Imagine that the chairperson who's very interested in Romance didn't know or the word didn't reach her that it's Shiraishi who's dating him, while otherwise, some random mobs saw them together and spreaded the rumor about them and still the chairperson couldn't figure who LOL. How silly & stupid this plot can be!!

I think what we were just hoping is that Nene & Yamada, at least, somehow, have a shared past or they were dating. Because, let's be honest, we deep down knew the final outcome and gave up on the future, because it goes for Shiraishi, certainly.

Well, you can't blame us to think so, can you? Especially after these Nene's overflowing feelings for him.

She simply adores him and can't give up on or forget about him no matter how many times her memories get erased which implied to readers that something lovely and passionate happened between them in the past, something couldn't be forgotten easily and strong enough to make Nene's feelings pop up over and over again despite there are no memories.

Which is not the case with Shiraishi. So plotting her as the same girl who was dating him is fking unreasonable.

In short, the author was trolling us.
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