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Apr 16, 2016 6:55 AM
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Welp, Saya in a nutshell. I always knew she could be a nice little motivator for guys like Ayato.

Pacing feels strange this episode.

I'm fine with the flashbacks but it felt a bit longer than I had expected. About time they got back to actual battling again...between those twins against Ayato/Julis. I thought the fight was alright, don't really like the twins much but I have to admit that they are very skilled.



Apr 16, 2016 8:18 AM
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Unexpected to see the fight split in half episode. Good i guess, because according to the light novel Saya/Kirin vs RM-C/AR-D will be following straightly after the twins match, we will get 2 fights in the next episode 4, no extra story like episode 2.

Any Saya fans here? (~*.*)~

A illusion smoke to cover up many things, the explosive talisman around the match space and the male twin hiding along just using his 5 illusions. Yulis seriously need to focus lol, when someone is invisible around you.
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Apr 16, 2016 8:38 AM
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Saya was pretty awesome in this episode :D
I didn't expect the fight to go on for another episode. That's pretty cool since the fight was pretty fun. Their opponent is stronger than I thought they'll be.

4/5
Apr 16, 2016 8:41 AM
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Saya have always been cute since she was little, her voice is hnnggg

I can't wait for Saya and Kirin vs Ernesta and Camilla

Regarding those twins, they're utilizing their opponent's weakness well, I think it's just fair to fight like that.



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Apr 16, 2016 8:48 AM
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Nice ep overall...
Little Saya was so cute! I'm in love with the VA.
First half was kinda boring, it felt a drag to me.
The fight was good I'll say, the real fight starts now i guess?
Apr 16, 2016 8:58 AM
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Aww, that little Saya is just so cute. And funny too, until now.

At first, I thought this battle will be only for Ayato since Julis can't really see the other invisible one. So I guess that Ayato's plan to buying time is backfired him, at least for now. Maybe he's got a backup plan for the next episode.
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Apr 16, 2016 9:00 AM
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This is probably one of the best episode for the 2nd cour, well since it's just the third one too early to tell i suppose.
Apr 16, 2016 9:01 AM
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Still no Claudia this episode smh

At least we get some nice Saya moments and I have a feeling Ayato is going to break his seal soon









Apr 16, 2016 9:02 AM
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Awwww you can't finish an episode like this ;w;
Is he going to fight with his full power ? :o
Apr 16, 2016 9:29 AM

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Now this was a step up from last week, no ear shattering, not too heavy monologue, more than one fight scene, moe and the power of friendship hue
Apr 16, 2016 9:31 AM
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Saya was too adorable in this episode ;w; Yay Saya!
Best girl for sure for this series.

I have to admit, the fight was decent enough since I felt like some of the animation could have been done better, but other than that I did enjoyed the episode just because there were some fight scenes that I liked about.

The flashback was pretty much alright, although kind of generic in a sense, but it did gave some development for Saya, and the chemistry between her and Ayato seems pretty good as for what it is.

I have to also admit that Julis was pretty much being good in fights as well in here, but Ayato taking more of the beef which kind of proves my point that he isn't as strong as everyone else says. I mean... in terms of strength I guess he's kind of the MC-kun getting a lot of power but at least not on the level of Tatsuya Shiba. I guess.

The twins were actually pretty skilled here, I have to agree on that. They know what they're doing and it seems like they're playing the trick card here too.
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Now this was a step up from last week, no ear shattering, not too heavy monologue, more than one fight scene, moe and the power of friendship hue


At least this is more tolerable than Fairy Tail's power of friendship speeches LMFAO.
Apr 16, 2016 9:35 AM

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Boring first half. Second half, where the fight happen is a bit interesting.
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Apr 16, 2016 10:02 AM

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10/10 episode solely because of the fact that the loli with the annoying, deafening voice didn't show up.

In all seriousness though, these twins are more skilled than I thought they would be, Ayato and Julis are really having a difficult time. I wonder what was up with Ayato at the end, maybe he's about to break his seal?
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Apr 16, 2016 10:08 AM

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I don't know why, but this episode just didn't do it for me. The fight was extremely boring and felt kinda contrived and unnatural. The characters were just annoying, specifically the twins and Ayato.

I also generally find it irritating when the MCs struggle against in every single match, against each and every small fry, it seems to ruin the value when they win the big ones. It also ruins their past wins against big opponents as well.
Apr 16, 2016 10:17 AM

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As expected, they refuse to sacrifice the Saya-Ayato team up against Akane to cut short the fight against the twins. Much appreciated, since it does well to develop Saya's character a bit. Am loving how they follow the LN as close as possible.

For those who are frustrated with Ayato's 5 minute stamina.... well..... look forward to next episode because it's gonna be epic.

Oh and yes Claudia comes back next episode as well.
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Apr 16, 2016 10:18 AM
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Yautja said:

I also generally find it irritating when the MCs struggle against in every single match, against each and every small fry, it seems to ruin the value when they win the big ones. It also ruins their past wins against big opponents as well.


But the twins are not small fry and already hyped to be pretty strong.......their each opponent are a step-up from the previous match except for the preliminary round. Irene was an Orge Lux user, they had to fight against the Jie Long duo with Ayato in a weakened state and they HAD pretty good skills as stated previously and the twins are among the Jie Long Top 12 and showed their worth this episode. Whatever you are making up here doesn't make much sense. Maybe taking off the bias googles would help.........

But if they breeze through every fight people are going to bitch about OP MC or other crap anyway. People are never satisfied no matter what the scenario is.

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obligatory mc gets beaten before comeback

someone else always have what you want, but it usually means nothing to them...
Apr 16, 2016 10:42 AM

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But the twins are not small fry and already hyped to be pretty strong.......their each opponent are a step-up from the previous match except for the preliminary round. Irene was an Orge Lux user, they had to fight against the Jie Long duo with Ayato in a weakened state and they HAD pretty good skills as stated previously and the twins are among the Jie Long Top 12 and showed their worth this episode. Whatever you are making up here doesn't make much sense. Maybe taking off the bias googles would help.........

But if they breeze through every fight people are going to bitch about OP MC or other crap anyway. People are never satisfied no matter what the scenario is.


I was hardly saying that they twins were weak (I was speaking generally, and that the twins' relevance was minimal to the story), or their past wins were extremely strong, I was saying that it's hard to take a show seriously when ever single opponent pushes the MCs to the brink, especially when they hyped the MCs to be such big deals, and all powerful. That said, Irene, or Kirin, which was top tier got beat pretty easily by Ayato, seems like they should have been a much bigger deal than the twins, yet they've put him in a seemingly worse position . Him beating big deal characters and then getting obliterated by characters of similar or lower level is boring. An opinion is hardly something that needs to be sensical to everyone. I could also say the same to you about bias, just by looking at your mean score, and past rating of Gakusen. Also, nonsense not making sense is kind of implied.
Apr 16, 2016 11:02 AM

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I wonder if unlocking the seal of Ayato will involve Julis, like say kissing him? Hahaha. This fight is very entertaining though, although we could have seen more of the Shenhua and Julis' side too.
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Apr 16, 2016 11:07 AM

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Now i'm starting to like Saya more and more . She did pretty well this episode . Her younger self is cute . Also the battle was good , those twins are cunning and have some nasty tricks . Let's see how things will go on next episode . It's kinda weird but i can only differentiate the twins from the size of their chest lol
Also is that ayato's sister in the audience ? I saw someone with purple twintails !
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Yautja said:

I was hardly saying that they twins were weak (I was speaking generally, and that the twins' relevance was minimal to the story), or their past wins were extremely strong, I was saying that it's hard to take a show seriously when ever single opponent pushes the MCs to the brink, especially when they hyped the MCs to be such big deals, and all powerful.


They hyped the MCs to be strong and smart but NOT too powerful neither all knowing......their opponents are also strong, can use strategies and use their brains as well. Ayato's handicap and it's cons were already shown quite well. Not every opponent can be taken down in 5 minutes.

Remember Julis talking about how she may not be able to beat Rank no 7 (i might be mistaken about the rank) as he was a Orge Lux user or how the Jie Long duo can easily be in Top 12 in Seidoukan. Just because you think they are small fries for the sake of excuses, in reality they aren't.


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That said, Irene, or Kirin, which was top tier got beat pretty easily by Ayato, seems like they should have been a much bigger deal than the twins, yet they've put him in a seemingly worse position.


During the fight with Irene, it was 1 VS 2 and both used Gravi-sheaths weakness against her. Not to mention, Ayato is a better CQC fighter compared to Irene and Julis was supporting him.

Against Kirin, Ayato lost the first duel because of handicap and not knowing about the rules of the duel but managed to win the second time because he made preparations before.

This one is an actual team battle, the Twins are already said to be very good at working together and setting up tricks. I dare say, they are better than Julis at using strategies and cheap tricks. Individually they could be weaker compared to Ayato or Julis or Kirin or Irene, but working together they are much strong. Not to mention they are good at wasting time with their tricks and against Ayato they just have to that.

This isn't about simple power levels but how compatible the abilities are and also how efficiently they can use their own abilities. Preliminary rounds are gone long time ago.........

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Him beating big deal characters and then getting obliterated by characters of similar or lower level is boring.


Stop making up boring excuses.....you are totally being ignorant about team battles here. Just because our MC can go head to head with strong opponents in 1 VS 1 battles withing a certain time limit does not mean he can curbstomp every other opponent in team battles. The previous battle already showed that and the current opponent are much better at teamwork. This isn't One Punch Man........wrong show dude.
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Apr 16, 2016 11:45 AM

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Animation seems to have improved, nice.

The ED song is one of the absolute best I've heard
Apr 16, 2016 11:50 AM

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Ayato will break the 2nd seal. I cant wait to see him crush the chinese twin.
Apr 16, 2016 12:10 PM
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Little Saya was so cute.

The Li Twins are sure tough!
Apr 16, 2016 12:26 PM

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Best part of this episode was Saya, the actual battle fucking sucked and went exactly like i thought it was, not to mention boring as hell.

hoping it gets better, these twins fighting so boring imo and wasted so much time lol
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Apr 16, 2016 12:36 PM
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Apr 16, 2016 12:51 PM

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boring episode. also i hate that they always use cliffhangers


Apr 16, 2016 1:06 PM

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Yeah let's use our tramp card at the very beginning of the fight and then wait 3 minutes until your opponent finishes his speech.. This is getting stupid..
Apr 16, 2016 1:11 PM

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Seems like something happened with the seal? Can't wait til Ayato finally gets past the 5min thing. Better animation this week than last week's.
Apr 16, 2016 1:40 PM
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I hate cliffhangers... RIP ;_;
Anyway we can pretty much guess what happens next...


Can't wait for the next eps, when the main drawback of Ayato is overcome (hopefully) (purely speculation)! :P
Apr 16, 2016 2:10 PM
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Oh cliffhanger, now we have to wait for the next ep to see them twins getting owned
Apr 16, 2016 2:22 PM

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I liked the Saya moment at the beginning. Those twins are annoying though. I wonder what happened to Ayato at the end. Decent episode.


Apr 16, 2016 2:26 PM
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Lmao. Seems like those twins are from Naruto.
Apr 16, 2016 2:31 PM

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Putting a bait behind a bait. My god! reminds me of NGNL, but i really dislike those twins. "to overcome any possibility until the end of the line"

Overall it was a very good episode imo. they showed Ayato's flashback again and i like the action between Ayato, Saya and His sister. but i think the fight between the twins and Ayato, Julis was better. i like how the twins fight too, but i guess that's the end for them :D well, it's too obvious that Ayato and Julis will win, but i can't wait to see how they will win, Something must be happening with Ayato's seal right now...

DAMN! DAT cliffhanger...
Apr 16, 2016 2:39 PM

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Ayato is down and Julis gets Saya to talk to him.
Flashback fight, Saya was pretty good with her guns even so long ago :O

Ayato has awakened XD guess he'll do the same move his sister did.
Julis really dropped the concentration ball this ep.

Apr 16, 2016 3:17 PM

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The moments with Saya were my favorite parts of the episode.
Apr 16, 2016 3:45 PM

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so many flashbacks this episode and his sister was a beast
Apr 16, 2016 3:45 PM
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but how annoying it is to see every single time the characters pushed to the brink (It's repetitive, and ruins the suspense and enjoyability of the fights, for me). Regardless of how strong, or weak the characters are, or how different their skill sets are.
Every single time? Did you forget how they easily defeated their first three opponents in the tournament? It makes sense that they met the small fries in the early stages, and then the big fishes afterward. Irene was no more than the first big fish the pair have to face.
Apr 16, 2016 4:53 PM

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Flashback, and we get to see kid version of them.
Saya still cute and act the same as when she was a kid which I like.
Anyway, it's still a meh episode overall.
Apr 16, 2016 7:30 PM
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While I'm generally liking the Asterisk series, this episode was terrible. Not for the episode itself, but for the overall story.

First, it's fine for Ayato's sister to pull out all the stops against a couple of little kids, but she seals his powers away when he's fighting adults. And then she goes away and nearly gets herself killed whil enever lifting his seal. Which makes her, IMO, an absolutely selfish idiot and someone who's not really worth being saved other than to lift his seal.

Second - I'd like to see them stop showing the same-old same-old of the main two fighting and show more of Kirin & Saya. Not only that, the fight scenes are getting ridiculously repetitive, and all the non-fight scenes are nothing but filler and add no real value to the series.
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I really know that it have no real valor, but I'm with you @Dragon_Slayer_X . The point here is how good the teams can work together, not how strong you are in individual battle
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Flashback, and we get to see kid version of them.
Saya still cute and act the same as when she was a kid which I like.
Anyway, it's still a meh episode overall.

I don't get the last scene at all, why the fuck Julis is blushsing in the match when ayato is "OK I get it" wtf
Apr 16, 2016 9:52 PM

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2nd part is better imo,

nothing else to note

3/5
Apr 16, 2016 11:15 PM

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Is it bad if I actually like the way those twins are fighting?
Dealing damage without putting yourself at risk, is it really that cowardly?
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Is it bad if I actually like the way those twins are fighting?
Dealing damage without putting yourself at risk, is it really that cowardly?


The problem is their attitude and lack of honor or respect towards their opponents rather than their strategy. They torture their opponents unnecessarily just for fun.

Apr 16, 2016 11:29 PM

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I dont wanna sound negative but I dont see how they can win against the twins
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This fight was a little brutal so far with all the explosion seals.

....but it looks like Ayato saw his seal in his mind this episode, so hopefully next episode he tries breaking the seal.

~Great episode!!!
Apr 17, 2016 12:56 AM

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AW CUTE SAYA MOMENTS! I love Saya! Nice flashback too, and they actually explain why the MC says the names of his strikes out loud! Thats a fun little addition. Can't wait to see part two!
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Great episode :O

The battle was intense
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