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Mar 30, 2016 2:22 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Final episode! Everything is over and back to normal for the most part. Kondou is back and safe but bruised up considerably after all that fighting. Gotta love how people are leaving Nobunobu side. Goes to show that being a little puppet and ass-hat gets you nowhere in the world.

The OST really suited the mood q.q.

Love the little rivalry fight between Kagura and Sougo. Farewell Shinsengumi and farewell Gintama ;_;. It's been a good year of watching you again.

10/10 as always.
Mar 30, 2016 2:23 AM
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This episode is pretty much the aftermatch of the battle. The part of Nobume thanking Sasaki for her name was so well done, I like that they used the Shogun OST for that.
- Otae not hitting Kondo or calling him stalker, rip on going gag.
- Kagura x Sougo shippers
- It was nice to see Gintoki and Hijikata exchanging their bowls and respect the other fav meal haha.

Shinsengumi ends up leaving Edo... nothing will be the same anymore. Now we have to wait till next season for one of the longest arc Gintama will have :c

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Didn't manage to capture this pic during live airing, but at the end of the episode there is a teaser of the next Gintama season.

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Mar 30, 2016 2:23 AM
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Rewritten for clarity and elaboration.

Gintama dot consisted of mostly serious (non-comedy) arcs. Problematically, past plots are frequently re-use in these arcs; anti-villain(s) are featured, and it ends with a motto that the villain or main cast learns while regretting and/or lamenting their past. It would be fine if occasionally used but Gintama has used it to the point of utter predictability. The only arc worth being eager for was the final arc as it involved modern Edo in an unprecedentedly large, decisive war. There was also a lower focus on the main 3*. Everything was progressing well until the Nobume and Isaburou backstories. In the final episodes where Nobume’s past was revealed, Isaburou’s ensuing innocence was so obvious but so illogical. Her entire development was mashed into one episode resulting in a mess of a character. Nobume is despicable because he remained illogically misleading about Isaburou’s pseudo-remorse throughout the show and lacked characterisation.

The indeterminable strength of the main cast (not just the main 3) and antagonists is a core issue of serious Gintama arcs. This problem hinders understanding of fights, which is responsible for most of the tension. More tension generally arises when against unfavourable odds. If the enemy is stronger, it is more unfavourable. If the main characters are in bad condition, it is more unfavourable. The perceived strength of the characters is vital for such evaluation. Not knowing so detracts from the thrill of the fights. As is, the characters seem to be able to continue fighting regardless of their condition. More detailed criticism on a climax moment and how it could have easily received a personal 9+ is available here: http://myanimelist.net/comtocom.php?id1=3687273&id2=4861849 (read from bottom to top).

The characters are somewhat inconsistent. To follow the plot, somethings in other arcs has to be forgotten. For example, Shinpachi is generally useless but defeating powerful enemies becomes an easy feat. Souga can be exposed to sunlight despite supposedly being a Yato. Gintoki has faced tougher opponents before, like Housen, but struggles against some weaker ones.

Gintama is enjoyable because of its full comedy arcs. The major focus on serious arcs in Gintama dot did not much time to feature these nor create ingenious content. The Confessional Arc, Afro Arc and Dekobokko Arc were the only outstanding episodes. The Feigned Illness Arc started off excellently but declined after the first episode. Outside those 7 episodes is a wasteland of predictable and generic comedy.

Gintama dot is certainly a disappointment when compared to its prequels. Overall, Gintama dot is a 5/10=average.

The quality of each episode and arc varies. 5 is an average.

Footnotes
* The serious arcs with a focus on the main 3 are often inferior as the tension is hindered by the fact they can’t die (so the anime remains on-going). The 6 characters that will never die are the main 3, Yamazaki, Zura and Elizabeth. The last 3 are immortal because they are used purely for comedy, so their deaths will generally feel incongruous. It’s best to avoid using these characters for important fights as they are impervious to death. For there to be tension, there must be risk and danger.



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Mar 30, 2016 2:25 AM
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Seems like they finally escaped, though with some casualties. Kondo’s condition looks bad O_O. The feels during the salute ;_;. Also, as people have pointed out before, Nobume’s eyes look different (more human). That scene with Kondo and Otae <3. Also Kondo’s got one big scar he’ll never lose :O. He does look badass with that scar though.

Seems like the Shinsengumi needs to leave Edo for the sake of the country. Hikikata and Kondo’s moment was awesome. That part when they switched their food was so great. Also Kagura and Sougo doing their farewell in their style XD. That Kondo, Otae and Shinpachi scene was great too. And the final scene with the Shinsengumi heading off. Saraba Shinsengumi!

Fantastic end to a fantastic arc. Easily my favorite animated arc. More emotional than the previous arcs imo. Also OP was used for ED (but the second half of the OP (the part not used in the OP) was used. Waiting for more (animated) Gintama is going to kill me >_<



Oh shit, they revealed the next arc a little. WARNING: Spoiler heavy picture (the same picture that was leaked weeks before)


5/5 for this episode, 10/10 for this series
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Mar 30, 2016 2:26 AM
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I'm surprised you didn't like the comedy this season sadpwner. Most of the people I follow this show with enjoyed the comedy A LOT compared to some of the previous seasons. Each to their own I guess.
Mar 30, 2016 2:32 AM
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An amazing end for an amazing franchise, now one of the longest wait of my life, I just hope Im still alive for Joui 4 arc.
Mar 30, 2016 2:56 AM
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And that's how we send off yet another one season of Gintama. I remember like it was yesterday when the 1st episode of this season started airing and Gin was apologizing to the watchers in parody of that Japanese politician lol.

Good end overall, I'm glad they didn't do some of the bullshit people wanted them to do, like put jokes in and go back to comedy, no bro we're done with that, people get killed everyday in Edo now.

And now our new wait begins, first until those 2 OVA's that were announced recently, and then maybe even another season.
Mar 30, 2016 3:02 AM
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sadpwner said:
Two main problems:
The show consisted mostly of serious (non-comedy) arcs. The problem with serious Gintama arcs is that they are generally generic shounen crap. They are absurdly predictable and always lack proper development resulting in extremely forced outcomes. They also almost always end up with some motto that the villain or main cast learns while regretting his actions/past. That part in particular is cringe as fuck. They use the same formula every time. There's also barely any tension because you already know the main cast won't die. They will defy logic and live no matter what.

The characters are also inconsistent. Shinpachi in particular is useless but he whoops enemies easily when it comes to serious arcs. In addition, characters like Nobume, Zenzo and Isaburou have the most convenient back stories. They are given certain motives and then, they pull out these random back stories mid-way creating massive twists in their motives. This would be fine if it was foreshadowed. However, Gintama doesn't go over their back stories nearly enough to warrant any of these developments. Without already reading the manga, there's no way you could logically follow these developments.

I favour Gintama comedy but this season had pretty weak comedy. It's nothing compared to what we received in the older seasons. While some of it was mildly funny, the rest was a disappointment. There were two main problems.

There were often these glimpses of comedy that occurred during the "serious arc" or mid-fight. The lack of purpose and clash with the mood left an impression of it being out of place. Did they serve any purpose beyond our mere entertainment? Not often enough. I understand humour can be used as plot devices to convey ideas but this was unfortunately not always the case. Seeing as these are "serious arcs", they should make an effort to make proper use of plot devices.

The episodes committed wholly to humour and in fact, most of the comedy in general was predictable and too basic for its own good. Honestly, any trained manga author could probably reproduce the humour without much thought. Gintama is known for its ingenious comedy that continues to surprise and impress most audiences not this basic and poor piece of work they call Gintama.

Gintama dot is certainly a disappointment when compared to its prequels. Overall, Gintama is a 5/10.

The quality of each episode varies. 5 is an average.


Well i disagree heavily with pretty much every single point you made. Especially the whole 'generic shonen crap' comment...because it's tasteless to say the least.

Shinpachi...really? He's always been a better fighter in the serious arcs and now suddenly you have a problem with it. That seems a tad convenient, don't you think?

Your whole idea about main characters not dying....like what did you think would happen? Gintama is a series targeted at the Shonen demographic after all. And once again, why do you have a problem with it just now? Why downgrade just this season for it? You should downgrade every season if this is how you truly feel.....it feels like you're pouring your frustrations out on only this season for no legitimate reasons.
EDIT: Oops sorry, didn't read that part properly. Ok, i understand a little more it's because there's more serious arcs in this season.

And i'm not entirely sure how the FS and SA arc are that similar. Sure some structural elements are the same, but the motives, plot developments, character development and conclusion are vastly different.

Zenzou, Sacchan and Shigeshige's back story did come out of nowwhere. But it was handled so well. Especially Shigeshige as his back story came full circle in one arc, making him really really well rounded. I liked that Zenzou and Sacchan got extra motivations as well.

Literally the only point i agree with is the comedy. Yes, it hasn't been as funny and that's probably more due to a lack of good comedic timing by the director than anything else. The actual jokes themselves are all classic Gintama, so i have no clue what you're on about there.

Now it's your opinion of course. But i don't think you're correctly rating this season by itself.
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Mar 30, 2016 3:06 AM
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Loved this episode. I'm not really going to go into all the pro's and con's of this season, because it'd take too much time.

I'll just say i loved the SA arc in the manga more, but really really enjoyed it still. And i absolutely adored the FS arc in the anime...probably my tied favourite arc along with the Four Devas arc.

Oh now everyone should see Otae and Kondo are meant to be.
Mar 30, 2016 4:00 AM

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Great finale episode. Loved hearing the ED song playing at the start.
Nobume's eyes were so beautiful. That final farewell to Isaburo.

Kondo looking cool with that scar.

Great moment between Gintoki & Hijikata exchanging their meals & laughing.

Kagura & Sougo with their farewell fight & both wanting to get stronger.

Loved the Shinsengumi montage at the end.

OMG that little tease at the end.

Overall a fantastic and awesome series. Just started watching Gintama near the end of last year and was so happy to catch up to the latest season this year.

Going to miss this show a lot and so sad to see it go, but hopefully we get another season to adapt the rest of the manga within a year or so because Gintama totally deserves it.

FAREWELL Shinsengumi!!! You guys better come back.

FOREVER YOROZUYA!!!

FAREWELL FOR NOW GINTAMA!!!

Overall this gets a 10/10 for me.
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Mar 30, 2016 4:07 AM

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Da,m. 9.32, Beat FMAB by a landslide O_o
I wonder where it'll settle at tho?

Such a great ep.

Loved the Gin and Toshi moment ;_;

I'm gonna miss this so much. Definitely an amazing season.
Mar 30, 2016 4:12 AM
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Kind of a slow finale but I guess it was fitting

I still think the 2011 series was probably Gintama's peak (well discounting the movie at least), but this has probably been the second best entry thus far. The shift over to serious mode in the last 16 eps has been a bit so-so for me; I don't really like Gintama when it's being serious but on the other hand these two arcs have undoubtedly been the two best serious arcs of the story thus far

I think I'd give this like an 8.5/10 if I could but seeing as MAL won't let me do that... 9 still feels a lot more appropriate than 8 so I guess I'll be generous this time around

Next season will quite likely be the last one of this franchise I suspect. Only question is when it'll come around. Late 2017 or early 2018 maybe?
Mar 30, 2016 4:14 AM

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I'm really going to miss my weekly dose of Gintama.

Love the Shinsemgumi and all of their interactions with the Odd Jobs group.
Mar 30, 2016 4:15 AM
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Next season will quite likely be the last one of this franchise I suspect. Only question is when it'll come around. Late 2017 or early 2018 maybe?
I'm guessing Spring 2017. Gintama normally starts during spring and the manga should end some time during 2017.
Mar 30, 2016 4:30 AM

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What an amazing journey it's been this season :')

I'll miss waiting every Wednesday to watch Gintama, but it's okay because this just means waiting for the manga instead.

Nobume's eyes were different and made her look so much more alive and beautiful.
The music along with Sasaki's tribute was really well done, rest in peace Mr Elite.

Can we just talk about Hijikata and Gintoki switching bowls for the final day, that is precious as hell. Along with Gintoki saying that he gained something back while remembering Shouyo, it really hits you then that there is no going back - it' all serious business from now on, excluding the occasional jokes.

Otae and Kondo please, my heart cant take this much. Okita and Kagura making their promise not to lose to anybody else hits this shippers feels deep.

The Rakuyou tease made me so happy, it's literally been only an hour and I'm already wanting the Anime to come back. I assume that when they get more funding from merchandise and sales etc that they'll come back and slap us in the face with the next season. Can't wait!

Overall this season was fantastic. There were moments that could have been executed better, but that's not what I watch this show for. Since it's not like other high-budget anime series, it's been at the best that they can do and for that effort a lone I'm satisfied.

Now to wait for the Ovas, thank you Gintama for this wonderful past year :'<
Mar 30, 2016 4:32 AM

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10/10 series (as usual). I can't wait for that new arc which features all four of the joui rebels. Been waiting for an arc where they all fight together for years.

sadpwner said:

The show consisted mostly of serious (non-comedy) arcs. The problem with serious Gintama arcs is that they are generally generic shounen crap. They are absurdly predictable and always lack proper development resulting in extremely forced outcomes. They also almost always end up with some motto that the villain or main cast learns while regretting his actions/past. That part in particular is cringe as fuck. They use the same formula every time. There's also barely any tension because you already know the main cast won't die. They will defy logic and live no matter what.


If you don't like generic shonen crap then maybe stop watching Gintama. Plus, Gintama has proven to not be afraid of killing off characters- E.G. The Shogun, who was a running gag character so funny and epic it would be unthinkable to kill him off, and Isaburo as well. Of course no MAIN characters die- there's no anime with main characters that die halfway in the show. It's usually earlier on and these character's roles are to develop the actual main character. e.g.


sadpwner said:

The characters are also inconsistent. Shinpachi in particular is useless but he whoops enemies easily when it comes to serious arcs. In addition, characters like Nobume, Zenzo and Isaburou have the most convenient back stories. They are given certain motives and then, they pull out these random back stories mid-way creating massive twists in their motives. This would be fine if it was foreshadowed. However, Gintama doesn't go over their back stories nearly enough to warrant any of these developments. Without already reading the manga, there's no way you could logically follow these developments.


Shinpachi is a samurai in training so it's normal that he'd get better as he goes. Besides, he's only portrayed as weak in non serious arcs because it's a gag. There wasn't anything wrong with the backstory placement in the show. And it's harder to pull foreshadowing on them because they don't get as much screen time. I wouldn't say these the aforementioned backstories' are 10/10 fantastic, but they work. The best flashback was probably the scene where Isaburo is trying to figure out the name of his child as he's falling to his death.

sadpwner said:

There were often these glimpses of comedy that occurred during the "serious arc" or mid-fight. The lack of purpose and clash with the mood left an impression of it being out of place. Did they serve any purpose beyond our mere entertainment? Not often enough. I understand humor can be used as plot devices to convey ideas but this was unfortunately not always the case. Seeing as these are "serious arcs", they should make an effort to make proper use of plot devices.

The episodes committed wholly to humor and in fact, most of the comedy in general was predictable and too basic for its own good. Honestly, any trained manga author could probably reproduce the humor without much thought. Gintama is known for its ingenious comedy that continues to surprise and impress most audiences, and this generic piece of work they tried to pass off as Gintama does not live up to the name.


The humor mid arc works. E.g. Sleeping pill scene with Katsura and Kondo in jail. This was to lighten the mood a little, but it doesn't dampen the overall tone of the arc. Even the "why not name her v******" text in Isaburo's flashback as he falls, whilst not really serving a clear purpose, still seemed to fit well.

I know some of my points can't be justified because it's subjective and can not objectively identified e.g. the humor mid arc works, but I hope you understand.
GaryMuffuginOakMar 30, 2016 5:00 AM
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"Then and now, what I protect has never changed!" -Sakata Gintoki

I'll take anything like The Pet Girl of Sakurasou. Anything as good as that.
Mar 30, 2016 4:33 AM
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GoldenDevilGamer said:
HaXXspetten said:
Next season will quite likely be the last one of this franchise I suspect. Only question is when it'll come around. Late 2017 or early 2018 maybe?
I'm guessing Spring 2017. Gintama normally starts during spring and the manga should end some time during 2017.


I'm guessing Fall 2016 or Winter 2017. The same thing happened in 2013 with the Kintama arc being previewed in March, only for Gintama': Enchousen to air in October.
Mar 30, 2016 4:40 AM
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さらば真選組(farewell shinsengumi)
さらば銀魂(farewell gintama)
Man, I feel so sad for this final episode... Then I saw that damn preview! They'll be back!

My sadness is now gone.

NANDESUKA KORE?
Mar 30, 2016 4:45 AM

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This last arc was really great, too many feels (SA arc was incredible too)!
No doubt it's a 10/10 for me.

I watched all Gintama from episode 1 to this one in the last months, and now that I have caught up, I'm really sad, no more Yorozuya for a while!

PS: Yeah, I had to write my first post on MAL for my favorite anime!
Mar 30, 2016 4:50 AM
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Awesome ep and ending to this season!
For me they really nailed the feeling in each one of the farewells...specially the one with gin and toshi!
Overall out of the last two arcs i prefer SA because of the main fight/scene, but FS was just as good.
I was expecting a hint or something for the next arc and they delivered! Joui 4 reunion!!
5/5 ep and 10/10 for the season.
Mar 30, 2016 4:51 AM

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10/10 like always. Now let the hype begin for the sequel. <3
(which I hope we still get in 2016.. :( )
Mar 30, 2016 4:58 AM

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Nice to see Shinsengumi and Yorozuya scenes especially Okita and Kagura's promise.
Thank you Gintama, it's been a great year.
Mar 30, 2016 5:05 AM

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Miss Gintama already... The last episode was a nice way to conclude all things

Farewell Shinsugimi
Mar 30, 2016 5:14 AM

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A very touching episode, everyone saying goodbye.
Gintoki eating Hijikata special and Hijikata eating Gintoki's special was funny.
Mar 30, 2016 5:21 AM

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My god, what a beautiful episode. Perfect in every essence of the word. It elicited the emotions every scene was designed to. Obvious 5/5 is blindingly obvious; one of, if not the, best episode of this arc.

This was an excellent adaption of the FS arc, but didn't reach the level the manga did of becoming my favorite completed arc. For the anime, it ties with the adaption of SA. But still, 10/10.

As for this season: I will argue that this is the best season of Gintama. GOAT/10.



P.S. The fucking did it! They teased THE greatest moment of the Gintama franchise! Please, release it this October!!
Mar 30, 2016 5:26 AM

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sadpwner said:
Two main problems:
The show consisted mostly of serious (non-comedy) arcs. The problem with serious Gintama arcs is that they are generally generic shounen crap. They are absurdly predictable and always lack proper development resulting in extremely forced outcomes. They also almost always end up with some motto that the villain or main cast learns while regretting his actions/past. That part in particular is cringe as fuck. They use the same formula every time. There's also barely any tension because you already know the main cast won't die. They will defy logic and live no matter what.

The characters are also inconsistent. Shinpachi in particular is useless but he whoops enemies easily when it comes to serious arcs. In addition, characters like Nobume, Zenzo and Isaburou have the most convenient back stories. They are given certain motives and then, they pull out these random back stories mid-way creating massive twists in their motives. This would be fine if it was foreshadowed. However, Gintama doesn't go over their back stories nearly enough to warrant any of these developments. Without already reading the manga, there's no way you could logically follow these developments.

Gintama is one of my favorite anime but I agree, I've always thought that.

Anyway, I still liked the season. This episode had the glorious final Okikagu moment, now unless I rewatch/reread the series I won't ever see anymore. damn, goodbye my OTP of many months.
From this point on I stopped really caring about the story in the manga and pretty much the only thing that saved this season from being dropped to a 9 was the great (imo) comedy episodes in the first half.
On an unrelated note, my favorite anime is FMAB, I am a salty FMAB fan and it angers me that this Gintama season is ranked #1. (especially since the original 201 episodes were the best imo)
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Where is Nobume in all of this? She didn't go with Shinsengumi and there is no note of Mimawarigumi.

Anyway I hope to see more of Tsuki before Gintama end for real.
Kickstarter for Rokujouma is fully funded. Good work everyone. Lets wait for the result of our hard work together.
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Where is Nobume in all of this? She didn't go with Shinsengumi and there is no note of Mimawarigumi.

Anyway I hope to see more of Tsuki before Gintama end for real.


Nobume will


And Tsukuyo is the main character of the OVA's that will be out on August but
Mar 30, 2016 5:41 AM
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This is the best Gintama has ever been! My rating in the end stays at 10/10! The Shinsengumi now leaves from Edo, but what about Nobume?

I will always be looking forward to the anime adaptation of the final arc(s) of Gintama. Pretty sure it's going to be pure awesomeness. For now, I await for that OVA.
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NeoAnkara said:
Where is Nobume in all of this? She didn't go with Shinsengumi and there is no note of Mimawarigumi.

Anyway I hope to see more of Tsuki before Gintama end for real.


Nobume will


And Tsukuyo is the main character of the OVA's that will be out on August but
Just read the chapter after FS and I already get my answer. Also I've read Love Potion arc because I know it get skipped and I just want to see some Gin x Tsuki moment.
Kickstarter for Rokujouma is fully funded. Good work everyone. Lets wait for the result of our hard work together.
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These last 2 arcs have been really good, I hope the next season comes soon.
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The interactions between Shinsengumi and Yorozuya were one of the series' best moments.It's just the best way to end this season.

8/10 overall.I would to prefer if they adapted more comedic chapters.
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Farewell Gintama ;_;
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They didn't kill Otose in 4 Devas Arc nor Zenzo in SA Arc. Any of those deaths weren't exactly necessary but it would've added more tension to their respective conflicts.

Fuck! Even Takasugi's death would've make sense! After all his conflict with Gintoki is now solved after that heart-to-heart. It could've been a nice change and a prove against the whole "Gintama's serious arc are just shitty Shonen rip-offs" argument. Just imagine how upsetting it would've been if Takasugi had died WITHOUT knowing that Shoyo-sensei shit. Or imagine the Joi Patriots reunion not being able to take part 'coz one of his members is not alive anymore... I dunno. I cant trust Gorilla anymore.

I was really glad with Gintama and was expecting them to be the ones who broke that idiotic "No MCs deaths" rule this season 'coz Gintama proved to be a completely different animal... But boy was I wrong.

I'm disappointed.
Mar 30, 2016 6:07 AM

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Happiest moment for Kondo and he had to leave. :(
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They didn't kill Otose in 4 Devas Arc nor Zenzo in SA Arc. Any of those deaths weren't exactly necessary but it would've added more tension to their respective conflicts.

Fuck! Even Takasugi's death would've make sense! After all his conflict with Gintoki is now solved after that heart-to-heart. It could've been a nice change and a prove against the whole "Gintama's serious arc are just shitty Shonen rip-offs" argument. Just imagine how upsetting it would've been if Takasugi had died WITHOUT knowing that Shoyo-sensei shit. Or imagine the Joi Patriots reunion not being able to take part 'coz one of his members is not alive anymore... I dunno. I cant trust Gorilla anymore.

I was really glad with Gintama and was expecting them to be the ones who broke that idiotic "No MCs deaths" rule this season 'coz Gintama proved to be a completely different animal... But boy was I wrong.

I'm disappointed.


No deaths you say?

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10/10 for this series.
I heard that the manga ends either at the end of this year or at the beginning of the next one! So, hopefully, it won't be more than a year and a half until the anime starts again!
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Is Tae and Kondo ship ever gonna happen :*( , why is Tae so hard to get
Mar 30, 2016 6:19 AM
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Is Tae and Kondo ship ever gonna happen :*( , why is Tae so hard to get


Short answer: Yes it will happen.
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Nato__Ren said:
They didn't kill Otose in 4 Devas Arc nor Zenzo in SA Arc. Any of those deaths weren't exactly necessary but it would've added more tension to their respective conflicts.

Fuck! Even Takasugi's death would've make sense! After all his conflict with Gintoki is now solved after that heart-to-heart. It could've been a nice change and a prove against the whole "Gintama's serious arc are just shitty Shonen rip-offs" argument. Just imagine how upsetting it would've been if Takasugi had died WITHOUT knowing that Shoyo-sensei shit. Or imagine the Joi Patriots reunion not being able to take part 'coz one of his members is not alive anymore... I dunno. I cant trust Gorilla anymore.

I was really glad with Gintama and was expecting them to be the ones who broke that idiotic "No MCs deaths" rule this season 'coz Gintama proved to be a completely different animal... But boy was I wrong.

I'm disappointed.


No deaths you say?



No INTERESTING deaths I said.

And what with that spoiler? LOL

Shigeshige's was pretty much foreshadowed since the beginning of the Arc and it was THE game changer. I wasn't complaining about his.

I'm just saying that Sasaburo was an antagonist whose sole plan's purpose was being killed off. That doesn't count at all. Gorilla can do better.
Mar 30, 2016 6:22 AM
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Man this was dope asf

Kondo x tae 4ever I love how it ended off at and cannot wait for another season when the mango ends
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Two main problems:
The show consisted mostly of serious (non-comedy) arcs. The problem with serious Gintama arcs is that they are generally generic shounen crap. They are absurdly predictable and always lack proper development resulting in extremely forced outcomes. They also almost always end up with some motto that the villain or main cast learns while regretting his actions/past. That part in particular is cringe as fuck. They use the same formula every time. There's also barely any tension because you already know the main cast won't die. They will defy logic and live no matter what.

The characters are also inconsistent. Shinpachi in particular is useless but he whoops enemies easily when it comes to serious arcs. In addition, characters like Nobume, Zenzo and Isaburou have the most convenient back stories. They are given certain motives and then, they pull out these random back stories mid-way creating massive twists in their motives. This would be fine if it was foreshadowed. However, Gintama doesn't go over their back stories nearly enough to warrant any of these developments. Without already reading the manga, there's no way you could logically follow these developments.

I favour Gintama comedy but this season had pretty weak comedy. It's nothing compared to what we received in the older seasons. While some of it was mildly funny, the rest was a disappointment. There were two main problems.

There were often these glimpses of comedy that occurred during the "serious arc" or mid-fight. The lack of purpose and clash with the mood left an impression of it being out of place. Did they serve any purpose beyond our mere entertainment? Not often enough. I understand humour can be used as plot devices to convey ideas but this was unfortunately not always the case. Seeing as these are "serious arcs", they should make an effort to make proper use of plot devices.

The episodes committed wholly to humour and in fact, most of the comedy in general was predictable and too basic for its own good. Honestly, any trained manga author could probably reproduce the humour without much thought. Gintama is known for its ingenious comedy that continues to surprise and impress most audiences, and this generic piece of work they tried to pass off as Gintama does not live up to the name.

Gintama dot is certainly a disappointment when compared to its prequels. Overall, Gintama dot is a 5/10.

The quality of each episode varies. 5 is an average.


if you seek for comedy read the manga instead they passed some comedy arcs to did SA arc
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It finally ended. uuuhhh THE FEELS </3
and the feels ♥
it was a shipping spree for me! xD


That aside, I don't read the manga so I was kinda scared that the Shinsengumi people would actually DIE in the end like in Hakuouki! I'm so glad they didn't die or I would bawl my eyes out. And Kondo has a scar now lol xD

The ending was like in Hakuouki too.


Now to rewatch the comedy eps!!! Since this and Osomatsu-san ended I need funny anime for the next season. ;_; Maybe Sakamoto desu ga will do ... ??
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I didn't like this episode too much. Maybe because it reminded me of how the series is never going to be the same after the last two arcs. And I don't like this change. I want Gintama back to its absurd and inconsequential. It was a pain seeing the ending credits. Not just for the Shinsengumi and the great moments they've given to the show but also for the easy-going tone and jokes that will be missed.

On the other hand, the ship baits. Seriously this arc has gone too far and too out of character with this. We know that Okita and Kagura are rivals, the joke has been beaten to death, but there is no need for this pile of saccharine among the two. This is pushing it too far. Making them show affection for each other screws the joke around them completely. And Otae x Kondo... pfffff. Really. I know that we are in a serious mood but come on. The focus of Gintama has never been romance teasing, and it doesn't feel right if the non-comedic interactions come through this filter.

What I liked about this episode, and had an effect, is the scene where Nobume and the Shinsengumi-Mimawarigumi pay their homage to Isaburo. It was quite emotionally compelling and I liked the soundtrack quite a lot, it's the same that has been used various times in the arc iirc, among them in the very first scene.

This episode is a very generous 6/10 to me. Nice as a farewell to the arc but very out of the mood of Gintama for a season finale. Annoyingly solemn with zero self-awareness. I was expecting the characters to deliver a message to the audience, or something like that, as they always do :(

For the season as a whole, I guess 9/10 is fine. I loved the first 34 episodes. I liked the SA arc. I tried to like the FS arc but ended up enjoying it only sporadically. In the end I'm left with a sour taste, but this season has had too many great moments throughout.
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Nato__Ren said:
They didn't kill Otose in 4 Devas Arc nor Zenzo in SA Arc. Any of those deaths weren't exactly necessary but it would've added more tension to their respective conflicts.

Fuck! Even Takasugi's death would've make sense! After all his conflict with Gintoki is now solved after that heart-to-heart. It could've been a nice change and a prove against the whole "Gintama's serious arc are just shitty Shonen rip-offs" argument. Just imagine how upsetting it would've been if Takasugi had died WITHOUT knowing that Shoyo-sensei shit. Or imagine the Joi Patriots reunion not being able to take part 'coz one of his members is not alive anymore... I dunno. I cant trust Gorilla anymore.

I was really glad with Gintama and was expecting them to be the ones who broke that idiotic "No MCs deaths" rule this season 'coz Gintama proved to be a completely different animal... But boy was I wrong.

I'm disappointed.

why do you need to kill someone if not necessary, use someone's death is the most stupid tactic IMO
Joy4everMar 30, 2016 6:37 AM
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10/10 for this Gintama greatness...
surely the anime of the year by landslide
looking forward for the Rakuyo arc.
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Shed tears on sasaki's tribute scene, kondo x otae scene, kagura x sougo, gintoki x toshi scene, ending shinsengumi farewell, gintama being MAL #1, gintama season ending, and just everything else related to gintama. It will be forever missed. huhu will always be the best anime of all time.
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I'm gonna miss watching Gintama weekly ;-;

Of course, i'm gonna give this a 10/10 !
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That extra look of longing in Otae's eyes during Kondou's goodbye was beautiful. That wasn't in the manga so bless you anime staff. They've always added a few cuts on scenes that involves ships and they didn't disappoint my KonTae shipper heart.

Wonderful episode. Best send-off for Shinsengumi. Gintama dick jokes will never be the same without Kondou though...

Overall, awesome season. 10/10
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